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ND Kelly to LSU
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With the Notre Dame job possibly opening, this might be the second thing to fall into Urban Meyer’s lap this year.
— Annie Agar (@AnnieAgar) November 30, 2021
That's gonna be a tough meeting. Sucks for those kids.
Just now Brian Kelly messaged Notre Dame’s roster in Team Works that “I will be leaving Notre Dame.”
— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) November 30, 2021
The plan is for Kelly to meet with the team tomorrow at 7 a.m.
Here is the full message pic.twitter.com/sqAl2txZIy
boognish_bear said:
That's gonna be a tough meeting. Sucks for those kids.Just now Brian Kelly messaged Notre Dame’s roster in Team Works that “I will be leaving Notre Dame.”
— Pete Sampson (@PeteSampson_) November 30, 2021
The plan is for Kelly to meet with the team tomorrow at 7 a.m.
Here is the full message pic.twitter.com/sqAl2txZIy
Wow…that is horrible! Those players should all reply simply with "GFY".
Brian kelly hearing neck for the first time https://t.co/Vl3Eu3MLmP pic.twitter.com/KKFxnF7r7b
— Jessica Smetana (@jessica_smetana) November 29, 2021
1966 (9-0-1, didnt go to a bowl)BearTruth13 said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:BearTruth13 said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:BearTruth13 said:PartyBear said:
Seems like a stupid move by Kelly.
Change of scenery and he probably had reached his ceiling at ND. It isn't the juggernaut it once was.
When was it a juggernaut? When it was going 11-1 under Holtz? It's been going 11-1 under Kelly for years.
When it wasn't getting blown by 30 in the playoffs. They haven't been a real NC contenders in decades.
Holtz did win one but was never close any other time. So tell me again: when were they a juggernaut? The '30s?
They won 4 or 5 in the 60s and 70s.
1973 (11-1, beat Bama)
1977 (11-1, beat UT)
whitetrash said:1966 (9-0-1, didnt go to a bowl)BearTruth13 said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:BearTruth13 said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:BearTruth13 said:PartyBear said:
Seems like a stupid move by Kelly.
Change of scenery and he probably had reached his ceiling at ND. It isn't the juggernaut it once was.
When was it a juggernaut? When it was going 11-1 under Holtz? It's been going 11-1 under Kelly for years.
When it wasn't getting blown by 30 in the playoffs. They haven't been a real NC contenders in decades.
Holtz did win one but was never close any other time. So tell me again: when were they a juggernaut? The '30s?
They won 4 or 5 in the 60s and 70s.
1973 (11-1, beat Bama)
1977 (11-1, beat UT)
They also lost 1 game in 89 and I think BC kept them out of the title gem in 1993?
I don't see how any one thinks Meyer can be hired by a university especially a church school like ND with his Ohio St scandal then his viral video of him grabbing 20 something ass behind his wife's back a month ago.
Notre Dame will go get Fickell from Cincinnati now.
Meyer is a scumbag but the Catholic church has been turning a blind eye to pedophiles for years.PartyBear said:
I don't see how any one thinks Meyer can be hired by a university especially a church school like ND with his Ohio St scandal then his viral video of him grabbing 20 something ass behind his wife's back a month ago.
Brian Kelly at first interview after practice at LSU pic.twitter.com/J4HneZqUVy
— Will Blackmon 🍷 (@WillBlackmon) November 30, 2021
How does the money thing work, i mean seriously this is getting silly.
College tuition and athletics $$$ growth is simply unsustainable. When does it crash and people realize its just stupid. The winners are the coaches for sure
I guess if big money donors and TV networks want to keep shelling it out. I certainly dont like state revenues paying this. Glad Im not being asked to cover.
College tuition and athletics $$$ growth is simply unsustainable. When does it crash and people realize its just stupid. The winners are the coaches for sure
I guess if big money donors and TV networks want to keep shelling it out. I certainly dont like state revenues paying this. Glad Im not being asked to cover.
Aliceinbubbleland said:Louisiana is three states. North Louisiana (solid Baptist), South Louisiana (solid Catholic) and New Orleans. Shreveport is Waco. Baton Rouge is Beaumont and no one is like New Orleans.PartyBear said:
I believe that is a dream job for him. He is a very active Catholic.
All the biggest LSU money comes from Shreveport.
I was at the ND LSU game in BR around 1970 when ND was highly ranked and LSU fans were burning Rosaries outside the stadium before the game. If He is coming because he is Catholic he would be better served at ND lol.
LSU fans leave their religion at the stadium entrances.
LMAO....you obviously haven't been to Shreveport lately.....the biggest LSU money comes from there? Shreveport is broker than Chicago on a bender.
dstaylor57 said:
Would fickell take the ND job?
That would be interesting. South Bend winters suck...
Self Made Bear said:
These salaries have gotten out-of-hand, spurred on by these big schools egos to buy the biggest name coaches. The carousel will only start spinning faster as coaches will seek to cash in and get their paycheck while the gettin's good.
The down side is the window to win is small. HCs are fine, it is the Assistants that get screwed (relative term based on money). But you can go for 350k Assistant Coach to 30k quality control in a season.
At 15 million a year there have to be provisions such as, if there is not a national title within 3 seasons this contract is null and void. Universities can't afford to hand out 150 million to football coaches even if they have to fire them after 4 seasons. I can't believe BMDs want to throw their money away like that either. And at 15 million a year a HC better produce it all for the program and fast.
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LMAO....you obviously haven't been to Shreveport lately.....the biggest LSU money comes from there? Shreveport is broker than Chicago on a bender.
Donors have nothing to do with local governments. Scotty Moran and his wife were at one time the two biggest benefactors (Moran Oil). Then Hank Anderson, Haynesville Shale). The Sample family. Bo Campbell to name a few.
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Brian Kelly receives 10-year, $95 million contract, plus incentives, at LSU. He will be formally introduced as Tigers’ coach at a Wednesday press conference
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 30, 2021
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I should have been a head coach.
Wonder if Mulkey now feels...underpaid? :-)
Exactly. Pretty much anyone would take these salaries with buyouts for a few years knowing they could get fired after two or 3 years with poor performance.Self Made Bear said:
These salaries have gotten out-of-hand, spurred on by these big schools egos to buy the biggest name coaches. The carousel will only start spinning faster as coaches will seek to cash in and get their paycheck while the gettin's good.
Then with the way so many G5 schools are willing to hire the big name has beens the chance of getting another job are really good.
Liberty with Hugh Freeze
Jacksonville State with Rich Rod.
etc.
Take the big pay at big name school for 2 or 3 years and then take a smaller job with less expectations where you will get 5-7 years and a chance to move back up.
But we can't pay the players. That would be a bridge too far.BUmoneymaker said:
How does the money thing work, i mean seriously this is getting silly.
College tuition and athletics $$$ growth is simply unsustainable. When does it crash and people realize its just stupid. The winners are the coaches for sure
I guess if big money donors and TV networks want to keep shelling it out. I certainly dont like state revenues paying this. Glad Im not being asked to cover.
That was fast...
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Heard Brian Kelly met with the Notre Dame team for 11 minutes this morning and then left.
— Adam Rittenberg (@ESPNRittenberg) November 30, 2021
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So....it's not $15 million. That makes me feel a little better.
Oops….just saw GB already posted this
Brian Kelly receives 10-year, $95 million contract, plus incentives, at LSU. He will be formally introduced as Tigers’ coach at a Wednesday press conference
— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 30, 2021
Oops….just saw GB already posted this
I know its just a business. I know nobody shows loyalty to coaches. And I understand that schools are getting the loyalty out of coaches that they give.
But it still seems extremely disingenuous, maybe immoral, for a man to stand in front of young men (emphasis on that) who are trying to figure out who and what they are in life and manipulate them to make millions of dollars for him by saying they are brothers, he's got their back, they are family, he loves them etc etc, and then, overnight, ghost them and say goodbye in an 11 minute meeting for millions more.
The egotistic BMD's, rapacious Athletic Directors, Media Conglomerates and us, as fans, are equally culpable.
But it still seems extremely disingenuous, maybe immoral, for a man to stand in front of young men (emphasis on that) who are trying to figure out who and what they are in life and manipulate them to make millions of dollars for him by saying they are brothers, he's got their back, they are family, he loves them etc etc, and then, overnight, ghost them and say goodbye in an 11 minute meeting for millions more.
The egotistic BMD's, rapacious Athletic Directors, Media Conglomerates and us, as fans, are equally culpable.
Brian Kelly eating mommas gumbo at a recruits house south of I-10 pic.twitter.com/tfIVxfitTc
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Just 7 days ago Brian Kelly was asked if he would ever leave Notre Dame aside from retirement.
— Rick Tarsitano (@RickTarsitano) November 30, 2021
Here's what he said. On to LSU pic.twitter.com/pnJj9vFxJC
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When Knute Fyucking Rockne hit the scene. Then when Rudy hit the scene. But also when they secured that 5000 year TV contract with NBC.
Kelly has more wins there than any of them. Particularly NBC.
Kelly has more wins there than any of them. Particularly NBC.
So true. What are the IRS rules on donations to universities.? They were probably written when money was donated to fund scholarships or Chairs.Shakesbear said:
The Pirate said it best: " Everyone has lost their minds"!
I can see both sides. A gift of $100 million to build a athletic complex allows the University to spend funds elsewhere. OTOH does a good faculty get pissed?
I love NCAA football more than anyone in the world but the antics of Riley and Kelly are the sign of an even more ugly future if OU's and ND's get screwed too.
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The idyllic scene of a pleasant afternoon in a small collegiate setting of people milling around among the falling leaves of red and gold, just happening to attend a football game which will only be seen by those attending where the focus of the day is not football, but on everything else about a college experience....education, friendships, budding romances, caring professors, and the dance that night. Football was just an activity no more important than anything else. The player's time was 90% academics and 10% football. A scene that was widely depicted in movies in the 30s.
Now with a deeper investigation, that described above is not really the way it was. Like many things we look back on, it wasn't as idyllic as we would like to think it was. But except perhaps in really small colleges (those no bigger than small high schools), the situation today is the polar opposite of that described above.
Because of money, greed of networks and grown adults basing their perceived worth of themselves being tied to the success of a bunch of college students playing a game, the public perceptions of many universities are based not upon their academic standing and achievements, but on their won-loss record on the football field. If you are not one of the winners, you are a bottom feeder, classified as "lowly", or otherwise relegated to the worthless category. And oh by the way, if you attend that school or are an alumni, you are just as irrelevant in many people's eyes as your losing football team.
That is not how it should be, but it seems the horses are out of the barn. No, the scene described above was probably never the complete picture of life, but it is sad that we have gotten so far off track that we seem to have lost any semblance of sanity concerning what amateur sports should entail, and certainly what the prime emphasis of a university should be about.
Now with a deeper investigation, that described above is not really the way it was. Like many things we look back on, it wasn't as idyllic as we would like to think it was. But except perhaps in really small colleges (those no bigger than small high schools), the situation today is the polar opposite of that described above.
Because of money, greed of networks and grown adults basing their perceived worth of themselves being tied to the success of a bunch of college students playing a game, the public perceptions of many universities are based not upon their academic standing and achievements, but on their won-loss record on the football field. If you are not one of the winners, you are a bottom feeder, classified as "lowly", or otherwise relegated to the worthless category. And oh by the way, if you attend that school or are an alumni, you are just as irrelevant in many people's eyes as your losing football team.
That is not how it should be, but it seems the horses are out of the barn. No, the scene described above was probably never the complete picture of life, but it is sad that we have gotten so far off track that we seem to have lost any semblance of sanity concerning what amateur sports should entail, and certainly what the prime emphasis of a university should be about.
ND will apparently wait for Luke Fickell, apparently the No 1 choice. Jack Swarbrick suggested he will not name an interim. Assts being told to stay on the road. Strong Catholic ties with Fickell. ND wants renewed bond with traditional Midwest Catholic high schools in recruiting.
— Dennis Dodd (@dennisdoddcbs) November 30, 2021
Brian Kelly came to Notre Dame from....Cincinnati.
boognish_bear said:ND will apparently wait for Luke Fickell, apparently the No 1 choice. Jack Swarbrick suggested he will not name an interim. Assts being told to stay on the road. Strong Catholic ties with Fickell. ND wants renewed bond with traditional Midwest Catholic high schools in recruiting.
— Dennis Dodd (@dennisdoddcbs) November 30, 2021
They're not ready for CFP - skip over them.
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