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Edmond Bear
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7:50a, 6/15/24
The city is hearing a proposal from Hunt Development to uncover Barron's Creek and add a plaza along Jefferson tween downtown and the large, historical Catholic Church.

This will be the start of an extensive downtown development to raze the current convention center, move it to a new location on the river (where Ben E Keith is now), create a"village green mall" from the Brazos to City Hall, add new City and ISD offices, and potentially add a minor league ballpark.

https://wacotrib.com/eedition/page-a1/page_8cad54d3-f7d4-5f0e-af31-65d90d041164.html

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FirmBear24
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3:58p, 6/15/24
For the life of me I don't get wanting to put in a baseball stadium downtown.
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5:25p, 6/15/24
Minor league baseball was very successful in Waco until the tornado wrecked the stadium. They must think putting a new team in Waco will have similar results 70+ years later.
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In reply to FirmBear24 • 5:36p, 6/15/24
FirmBear24 said:
For the life of me I don't get wanting to put in a baseball stadium downtown.


I agree. Feel like minor league soccer would do better in Waco and not occur during brutal summers.

If you have to do baseball, might have to do it Banana style.
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5:41p, 6/15/24
Thomas Hudson Barron was my great, great, great great grandfather, so this interests me.
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6:17p, 6/15/24
We have too many baseball fields now, it's not even necessary.
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Calrocks94
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7:20p, 6/15/24
Just think what waco would've been today
If the tornado never happened, set us back 50 years
I'm happy now they focused on making the city better and bring us to the 21st-century
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In reply to Edmond Bear • 7:37p, 6/15/24
Edmond Bear said:
FirmBear24 said:
For the life of me I don't get wanting to put in a baseball stadium downtown.


I agree. Feel like minor league soccer would do better in Waco and not occur during brutal summers.

If you have to do baseball, might have to do it Banana style.


What do you mean banana style? Baylor marketing will be designing the uniforms?
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7:42p, 6/15/24
Waco is a baseball town. All ages……little league,teen age, select teams.

A lower minor league team might be a hit
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In reply to PartyBear • 8:50p, 6/15/24
PartyBear said:


What do you mean banana style? Baylor marketing will be designing the uniforms?


https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/introducing-banana-ball-the-savannah-bananas-attempt-to-change-baseball/
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In reply to CTbruin • 8:53p, 6/15/24
CTbruin said:
Waco is a baseball town. All ages……little league,teen age, select teams.

A lower minor league team might be a hit


This could be said about every small and midsize town in 15 states. Baseball is a hit with kids and teens all over the south but minor league baseball is not.
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11:22a, 6/16/24
I'm just saying, it might be worth considering by a minor league team.
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12:52p, 6/16/24
Just lean into the Magnolia touristry and build a promenade with 100 Mah Jongg tables.
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In reply to Lund Vernquist • 1:45p, 6/16/24
Lund Vernquist said:
Just lean into the Magnolia touristry and build a promenade with 100 Mah Jongg tables.


You nailed the target market right there.
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7:16p, 6/16/24
Here's a rendering of what it will look like after it rains.


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1:24a, 6/17/24
I foresee the BearDome coming back and happening before any of this.
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1:18p, 6/18/24
From presentation attached to today city council agenda re: baseball stadium.
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1:21p, 6/18/24
The five districts in the downtown strategic proposal, again from today's council agenda package.
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1:28p, 6/18/24
If anyone wants the full presentation from Biscuits and Gravy, it is found here:

https://wacocitytx.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=4711&Inline=True

(or here if that link gives you trouble)
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In reply to Biscuits_and_Gravy • 2:19p, 6/18/24
Biscuits_and_Gravy said:
From presentation attached to today city council agenda re: baseball stadium.


MiLB would be huge for Waco, but I fully expect it would be a bad Indy team.
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In reply to BaylorHistory • 2:54p, 6/18/24
BaylorHistory said:
Biscuits_and_Gravy said:
From presentation attached to today city council agenda re: baseball stadium.


MiLB would be huge for Waco, but I fully expect it would be a bad Indy team.


I would start a petition for a Bananas affiliate but I'm not a resident.

I decided to attend meeting, see if that even gets mentioned as an Indy option.
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In reply to SteamedHams • 3:02p, 6/18/24
SteamedHams said:
If anyone wants the full presentation from Biscuits and Gravy, it is found here:

https://wacocitytx.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=4711&Inline=True

(or here if that link gives you trouble)

Thanks for posting. This is great insight into what is being pitched to the City Council.

Looks like downtown ballpark is last on their list, around 2036.
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In reply to Edmond Bear • 3:04p, 6/18/24
Edmond Bear said:
SteamedHams said:
If anyone wants the full presentation from Biscuits and Gravy, it is found here:

https://wacocitytx.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=4711&Inline=True

(or here if that link gives you trouble)

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Looks like downtown ballpark is last on their list, around 2036.


Like 90% of this board will be dead by then
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In reply to BaylorHistory • 3:39p, 6/18/24
BaylorHistory said:
Edmond Bear said:
SteamedHams said:
If anyone wants the full presentation from Biscuits and Gravy, it is found here:

https://wacocitytx.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=4711&Inline=True

(or here if that link gives you trouble)

.

Looks like downtown ballpark is last on their list, around 2036.


Like 90% of this board will be dead by then

Glad Brian Etheridge create The Forge as a backup plan for income.
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In reply to BaylorHistory • 4:13p, 6/18/24
BaylorHistory said:
Edmond Bear said:
SteamedHams said:
If anyone wants the full presentation from Biscuits and Gravy, it is found here:

https://wacocitytx.iqm2.com/Citizens/FileOpen.aspx?Type=1&ID=4711&Inline=True

(or here if that link gives you trouble)

.

Looks like downtown ballpark is last on their list, around 2036.


Like 90% of this board will be dead by then

By your hand? Is this a threat?
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4:14p, 6/18/24
Ballpark District is listed as 2036, unless private capital brings an opportunity before. It can start any time between now and 2036.
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In reply to FlyinDubGreenGold • 4:27p, 6/18/24
FlyinDubGreenGold said:
Ballpark District is listed as 2036, unless private capital brings an opportunity before. It can start any time between now and 2036.


Presenters discussed that all other are required to be sequential but Ball Park could be at any time, expected that minor league expansion in '29 is best opportunity and would flow if phase up to 3 are completed. 1a is required for infractions and flood plain revision.
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6:44p, 6/18/24
Well, I went set on the city Council meeting honestly what they wanna do if Waco is really gonna be good. It's gonna give us our own identity and focus on the river as our assets excited to see what the next 10 years bring
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Waco doesn't support Baylor baseball. Will they support a minor league team after the honeymoon phase is over? I'd bet no.

This sounds like city development folks just chasing their own personal preferences IMO.

But I'd admit, a baseball stadium in downtown would be aesthetically pleasing!
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In reply to Coyote Bear • 3:48a, 6/19/24
Coyote Bear said:
Waco doesn't support Baylor baseball. Will they support a minor league team after the honeymoon phase is over? I'd bet no.

This sounds like city development folks just chasing their own personal preferences IMO.

But I'd admit, a baseball stadium in downtown would be aesthetically pleasing!


With its projected population growth Waco could possibly be big enough to support a minor league team in 2036. At its current size, it can't. Building a ballpark that could sit empty doesn't make sense.
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8:04a, 6/19/24
The Mary Ave section with the new convention center, performing arts center, and hotel is the most exciting piece to me.

Glad the pedestrian bridge idea is still around. With a couple of concessionaires and shade coverings, it could be a really cool destination literally on top of the areas greatest asset. Views toward Foster would be incredible and could provide a pedestrian link to McLane.
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In reply to FrankFallonCalling • 8:51a, 6/19/24
FrankFallonCalling said:
The Mary Ave section with the new convention center, performing arts center, and hotel is the most exciting piece to me.

Glad the pedestrian bridge idea is still around. With a couple of concessionaires and shade coverings, it could be a really cool destination literally on top of the areas greatest asset. Views toward Foster would be incredible and could provide a pedestrian link to McLane.


It would also improve opportunities across the river from Foster Pavilion.
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In reply to RightRevBear • 8:53a, 6/19/24
RightRevBear said:
Coyote Bear said:
Waco doesn't support Baylor baseball. Will they support a minor league team after the honeymoon phase is over? I'd bet no.

This sounds like city development folks just chasing their own personal preferences IMO.

But I'd admit, a baseball stadium in downtown would be aesthetically pleasing!


With its projected population growth Waco could possibly be big enough to support a minor league team in 2036. At its current size, it can't. Building a ballpark that could sit empty doesn't make sense.


There will be no minor league park.

They always dangle that out there, but it will never happen.

But Lubbock recently built a very nice PAC and I think Waco will do the same.
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In reply to Yogi • 11:55a, 6/19/24
Yogi said:
RightRevBear said:
Coyote Bear said:
Waco doesn't support Baylor baseball. Will they support a minor league team after the honeymoon phase is over? I'd bet no.

This sounds like city development folks just chasing their own personal preferences IMO.

But I'd admit, a baseball stadium in downtown would be aesthetically pleasing!


With its projected population growth Waco could possibly be big enough to support a minor league team in 2036. At its current size, it can't. Building a ballpark that could sit empty doesn't make sense.


There will be no minor league park.

They always dangle that out there, but it will never happen.

But Lubbock recently built a very nice PAC and I think Waco will do the same.


We need a PAC much more than a ballpark so if we only get one it needs to be the PAC.
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12:54p, 6/19/24
I guess the electric substation is here until at least 2040.
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