#19 Baylor (10-3; 0-1) takes on #17 TCU (12-1; 1-0) Wednesday January 4th at 8pm CST in Waco. The game will be televised on ESPN2.
KenPom Prediction: Baylor 74 TCU 69
Torvik Prediction: Baylor 74 TCU 68
Evan Miyakawa Prediction: Baylor 76 TCU 70
Coaches
TCU: Jamie Dixon (57) 457-208 (129-85 at TCU); 13 NCAAs; 3 Sweet 16s; 1 Elite 8
Baylor: Scott Drew (52); 429-236 overall (409-225 at Baylor); 10 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship
Head to Head: 7-4 Drew
TCU Starters
Guard: Mike Miles (JR) 6-2 195 lbs; 19 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 52% FG; 30% 3pt; 68% FT
Guard: Damion Baugh (SR) 6-4 195 lbs; 12 ppg; 4 reb; 5 asst; 46% FG; 31% 3pt; 63% FT
Forward: Charles O’Bannon (SR) 6-6 215 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 34% FG; 32% 3pt; 74% FT
Forward: Emmanuel Miller (SR) 6-7 220 lbs; 14 ppg; 6 reb; 2 asst; 57% FG; 47% 3pt; 68% FT
Forward: Eddie Lampkin (SO) 6-11 265 lbs; 7 ppg; 7 reb; 55% FG; 40% 3pt; 88% FT
TCU Bench
Forward: Xavier Cork (SR) 6-9 230 lbs; 4 ppg; 2 reb; 62% FG; 50% FT
Forward: Micah Peavy (JR) 6-7 215 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 37% FG; 15% 3pt; 81% FT
Forward: JaKobe Coles (SO) 6-7 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 5 reb; 44% FG; 30% 3pt; 91% FT
Baylor Starters
Guard: Adam Flagler (SR) 6-3 185 lbs; 17 ppg; 3 reb; 5 asst; 48% FG; 50% 3pt; 81% FT
Guard: LJ Cryer (JR) 6-1 190 lbs; 15 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 45% FG; 37% 3pt; 92% FT
Guard: Keyonte George (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 16 ppg; 4 reb; 4 asst; 38% FG; 34% 3pt; 83% FT
Forward: Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-7 225 lbs; 9 ppg; 5 reb; 47% FG; 18% 3pt; 78% FT
Forward: Flo Thamba (SR) 6-10 250 lbs; 5 ppg; 5 reb; 1 blk; 63% FG; 48% FT
Baylor Bench
Guard: Dale Bonner (SR) 6-2 170 lbs; 6 ppg; 2 reb; 4 asst; 2 st; 46% FG; 36% 3pt; 79% FT
Forward: Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 6 ppg; 5 reb; 56% FG; 33% 3pt; 69% FT
Guard: Langston Love (FR) 6-5 210 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 43% FG; 31% 3pt; 82% FT
Forward: Joshua Ojianwuna (FR) 6-10 235 lbs; 6 ppg; 4 reb; 1 blk; 69% FG; 68% FT
IowaBear said:
Win or lose this team is embarrassingly bad defensively. Ceiling is ridiculously low
We can beat anyone in this league, and anyone can beat us.IowaBear said:
So how many wins? 8??! So we have to go 8-8 rest of the way? 8-10 May get us in. This looks like a 7-11 team right now. Not sure that gets Baylor in nor should it
DanaDane said:
Drew always has a reason for doing what he does. The thing I'm interested in hearing him address is why we kept pressing when it was obvious we weren't very effective at it and it was just resulting in one layup after another. Yet we wouldn't change. That's the one puzzling question I have for this game.
CorsicanaBear said:
Now is the winter of our discontent.
If we lose Saturday at home to a very good Kansas State, then we have serious concerns. A 20-win season still matters, and we will be hard pressed to get there.Cove Dawg said:Oldbear83 said:
No excuse for this loss.
This team is not going to a second round without a much better transition defense
I honestly believe it is optimistic to think this team makes the tournament. Completely lack "killer" instinct.
DanaDane said:
Drew always has a reason for doing what he does. The thing I'm interested in hearing him address is why we kept pressing when it was obvious we weren't very effective at it and it was just resulting in one layup after another. Yet we wouldn't change. That's the one puzzling question I have for this game.
bear2be2 said:No excuse needed. This team is just not very good, especially on the defensive end.Oldbear83 said:
No excuse for this loss.
This team is not going to a second round without a much better transition defense
historian said:IowaBear said:
Win or lose this team is embarrassingly bad defensively. Ceiling is ridiculously low
Crazy part is the defense was tremendous in the first half. Maybe the announcers were correct & the players just ran out of gas. If so, it's going to be a long season.
I thought we'd bounce back well from Saturday's loss. And for a half, we did. But you can't just stop playing defense at halftime and expect to win.Johnny Bear said:
I previously posted on another thread that if I was an objective gambler betting on this game, I would take the frogs and the points. So pissed I was right.
We don't need 10 more wins to make the tournament. An 8-10 conference record probably gets us in this league.Cove Dawg said:Mitch Henessey said:We're in absolutely no danger of missing the tourney. Stop this silly narrative.davesburgerbarn said:
It's going to be tough making the tournament this season with this defense
Getting to weekend #2 is an entirely different story.
If you believe this you are either delusional or know nothing of the game of basketball. Where do you see 10 more wins?
The difference between this team and that team is a 7' 1" center that was productive offensively and that team was coming off an NIT championship, not a second-round exit after a National Championship.Mitch Henessey said:We can beat anyone in this league, and anyone can beat us.IowaBear said:
So how many wins? 8??! So we have to go 8-8 rest of the way? 8-10 May get us in. This looks like a 7-11 team right now. Not sure that gets Baylor in nor should it
I'm old enough to remember a season we started off 2-7 in the Big 12, people were calling for a change at HC, and we rebounded to make the Sweet 16.
Calm your buttholes, people.
If you think our defense is bad now, just wait until we trot four guards out there.True Grit said:
The roster has so many flaws. I think Drew needs to start Ojianwuna over Thamba and even experiment with a four guard line-up.
That kind of turnaround is possible (let's pray we don't get to 2-7), but this is the worst defensive team Drew has had since the Jerrells-Dugat-Rogers days. It's going to be hard to win in this league defending at the level we currently are.Mitch Henessey said:We can beat anyone in this league, and anyone can beat us.IowaBear said:
So how many wins? 8??! So we have to go 8-8 rest of the way? 8-10 May get us in. This looks like a 7-11 team right now. Not sure that gets Baylor in nor should it
I'm old enough to remember a season we started off 2-7 in the Big 12, people were calling for a change at HC, and we rebounded to make the Sweet 16.
Calm your buttholes, people.
No, we're bad. We're down to 62nd in defensive efficiency by KenPom -- the sixth-worst number among teams ranked in the top 30 overall. The good defensive games are the exception this year.historian said:bear2be2 said:No excuse needed. This team is just not very good, especially on the defensive end.Oldbear83 said:
No excuse for this loss.
This team is not going to a second round without a much better transition defense
They are good defensively. They did a great job in the first half & against Gonzaga. They are not good consistently. I guess, in the end, the result is the same. But I would think the problem is fixable.
They also need to rebound much better than they have been doing in recent games.
I mean, I'd take a second round exit over an NIT Championship every single day. I don't see how that's a mark against this squad.edible_waffles said:The difference between this team and that team is a 7' 1" center that was productive offensively and that team was coming off an NIT championship, not a second-round exit after a National Championship.Mitch Henessey said:We can beat anyone in this league, and anyone can beat us.IowaBear said:
So how many wins? 8??! So we have to go 8-8 rest of the way? 8-10 May get us in. This looks like a 7-11 team right now. Not sure that gets Baylor in nor should it
I'm old enough to remember a season we started off 2-7 in the Big 12, people were calling for a change at HC, and we rebounded to make the Sweet 16.
Calm your buttholes, people.
We're going to score a lot on K-State, which is even worse defensively than we are. It will be a shootout.IowaBear said:
KSU is the exact type of team will struggle with. Teams with elite guards who can get into the paint will be Baylor's Achilles heel all season. Unfortunately there's some pretty damm good guards in the B12
It's more pointing out that this team is two years removed from a national championship and has regressed by a lot compared to last season's heavily injured team that still advanced to the second round. The current form of this team is a 6/11 upset lossMitch Henessey said:I mean, I'd take a second round exit over an NIT Championship every single day. I don't see how that's a mark against this squad.edible_waffles said:The difference between this team and that team is a 7' 1" center that was productive offensively and that team was coming off an NIT championship, not a second-round exit after a National Championship.Mitch Henessey said:We can beat anyone in this league, and anyone can beat us.IowaBear said:
So how many wins? 8??! So we have to go 8-8 rest of the way? 8-10 May get us in. This looks like a 7-11 team right now. Not sure that gets Baylor in nor should it
I'm old enough to remember a season we started off 2-7 in the Big 12, people were calling for a change at HC, and we rebounded to make the Sweet 16.
Calm your buttholes, people.
The theme this year in Baylor Athletics seems to be underachievement.
— Jordan Feuerbacher (@JFeuerbacher) December 31, 2022
