Fre3dombear said:Cove Dawg said:MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
A damn shame!
Now do wins per year
This is a fair critique IMO. Unfortunately, a smaller arena requires higher prices to maintain revenue levels, and the greater demand allows the university to charge more.historian said:BigGameBaylorBear said:
Who cares how many seats it has? It's one of the loudest arenas in the Big12 and will be extremely tough to play in. I Duke is 9,300, Gonzaga is 6,000, Villanova is 6,500.
Success in basketball isn't determined how big your arena is.
Not to mention we didn't fill up Ferrell unless it was a blockbuster matchup
I wish it had more seats so I could afford to go to a MBB game! Right now that's unlikely.
Never said that, you're putting words in my mouth. I simply stated that it was loud which is a known fact.bear2be2 said:If you want to continue to argue that the Ferrell Center was the optimal basketball environment, you can do so by yourself.MrGolfguy said:The first statement simply isn't true. FC was plenty loud. I'd suggest having your hearing checked.bear2be2 said:
The Ferrell Center wasn't loud.
A capacity crowd there will be much louder than the Ferrell Center ever was.
The second statement is a guess on your part that you have no idea of, you're just pulling something out of your ass; likely untrue b/c 9K-10K is louder than 7K. It's an unarguable fact.
bear2be2 said:This is a fair critique IMO. Unfortunately, a smaller arena requires higher prices to maintain revenue levels, and the greater demand allows the university to charge more.historian said:BigGameBaylorBear said:
Who cares how many seats it has? It's one of the loudest arenas in the Big12 and will be extremely tough to play in. I Duke is 9,300, Gonzaga is 6,000, Villanova is 6,500.
Success in basketball isn't determined how big your arena is.
Not to mention we didn't fill up Ferrell unless it was a blockbuster matchup
I wish it had more seats so I could afford to go to a MBB game! Right now that's unlikely.
There will definitely be people priced out of attending games at the new venue, myself likely included.
Problem that I saw with the big crowds at Ferrell was that it was often noisy AGAINST our team because there were too many opponent fans in attendance. We could generate more noise, but for a real home court advantage IMO it should be relatively quiet when we are on offense and at the line and have the noise of practically all the people in attendance be directed against the opponent. If the opponent has 20%+ of the people in attendance that can't happen.MrGolfguy said:Never said that, you're putting words in my mouth. I simply stated that it was loud which is a known fact.bear2be2 said:If you want to continue to argue that the Ferrell Center was the optimal basketball environment, you can do so by yourself.MrGolfguy said:The first statement simply isn't true. FC was plenty loud. I'd suggest having your hearing checked.bear2be2 said:
The Ferrell Center wasn't loud.
A capacity crowd there will be much louder than the Ferrell Center ever was.
The second statement is a guess on your part that you have no idea of, you're just pulling something out of your ass; likely untrue b/c 9K-10K is louder than 7K. It's an unarguable fact.
In addition to getting your hearing checked, it also seems like your reading comprehension good use a bit of work. I stand by my previous statement which is an undeniable fact -- 9K to 10K people are louder than 7K.
RightRevBear said:Fre3dombear said:RightRevBear said:Fre3dombear said:Cove Dawg said:MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
A damn shame!
Now do wins per year
So do you think we could outdraw UT if we had a better record. I mean if that was the case McLane Stadium should have been built with the seating capacity of Kyle Field, because our record was much better than ATM's.
Not sure where that logic non sequitur comes from but point being we draw way less than texas and win way more
Correlation / causality and ****
I might have misunderstood your point when you said to do it by wins. I was thinking that you thought that if you win you will attract larger crowds. This is true to a point. Attendance is usually better when a team is winning compared to when they are losing. My point though was that attendance is primarily based on fanbase size, not wins. My point about the stadium was that if wins are the determining factor, then we should have a huge stadium. We were winning a lot then.
I was using reducto ad absurdum to show the fallacy. From your follow-up post I think I misunderstood what you were saying.
historian said:vanillabryce said:
Anyone see how empty GIA was yesterday on a Saturday v a top 20 team?
It doesn't bother me at all if we have a small field house.
OSU fans didn't show up in large numbers because they expected to lose. I'm glad we didn't disappoint.
ScottS said:
With Stubhub and other resale sites opposing fans can get Foster tickets. Reducing from 10k to 7k doesn't change that.
Big12Bear said:
Nope.
Foster capacity is 7500. TCU is 6800, not 8500.
All attendance figures are reported by tickets sold, not tickets redeemed. That's industry standard.historian said:
Obviously there were not exactly 7500 people there (or extremely unlikely) so what people have been saying about where they get those numbers from us probably correct. The funny thing is, everyone who enters has their ticket scanned by a device tied into a central computer. It should be simple to have a precise figure for every game. They should be able to break it down by season ticket holders, students, guests of teams, recruits, etc.
Yep, I agreehistorian said:
Wikipedia isn't always the most reliable source either. For this kind of thing, however, it's usually pretty good. The endnotes can be helpful.
OverseasBear said:
According to the TCU athletic website, Ed & Rae Schollmaier Arena is the home for TCU men's and women's basketball as well as volleyball with a seating capacity of 6,800. Not sure of the source for 8,500.
Exactly. And that's what Foster was built for. It will allow almost every home game to be near sell-out and to be 90% green and gold. I believe we will see a big, big home court advantage built up at the Foster - even more so than the one we already had at the Ferrell. I think Foster will be viewed as an elite environment throughout the country, even "despite" its size.chorne68 said:
I only care about winning.
Before they remodeled, a sellout was 7,166 if I remember correctly. Not sure of the 8500 either.OverseasBear said:
According to the TCU athletic website, Ed & Rae Schollmaier Arena is the home for TCU men's and women's basketball as well as volleyball with a seating capacity of 6,800. Not sure of the source for 8,500.
IIRC TCU seating dropped in the remodel from 7100+ to 6800; they added a lot of courtside seats but reduced the number of seats in the main seating bowl by making seats a little wider and rebuilding the concrete risers to reduce the total number of rows and add legroom (old Daniel Meyer had notoriously cramped seating). And frankly, they did a good job improving both the concourses and the seating bowl.SoonerFrogs said:Before they remodeled, a sellout was 7,166 if I remember correctly. Not sure of the 8500 either.OverseasBear said:
According to the TCU athletic website, Ed & Rae Schollmaier Arena is the home for TCU men's and women's basketball as well as volleyball with a seating capacity of 6,800. Not sure of the source for 8,500.
It's not the size of your stadium, it's how you swing it.MattyIce said:
Some of yall worry too much about size
datboiquadzilla said:
Who cares how small our stadium is.
If our rivals want to poke and prod us on having such a small basketball arena, then they're wasting their breath on such a dumb argument.
datboiquadzilla said:
Who cares how small our stadium is.
If our rivals want to poke and prod us on having such a small basketball arena, then they're wasting their breath on such a dumb argument.
What impact do you anticipate it having? I would be surprised if arena size has any impact whatsoever on our recruiting.Cove Dawg said:datboiquadzilla said:
Who cares how small our stadium is.
If our rivals want to poke and prod us on having such a small basketball arena, then they're wasting their breath on such a dumb argument.
You speak of rivals but none on here even mention the impact of having the smallest arena in the conference will have on recruiting. Should have been built at 8,000+ capacity.
MrGolfguy said:
BYU 19,000
KU 16,300
Tech 15,000
ISU 14,400
WVU 14,000
OSU 13,600
KSU 12,500
Cincy 12,000
OU 11,500
UCF 10,000
Texas 10,000
Tcu 8,500
UH 7,100
Baylor 7,000
Moody isn't what it seems.Fre3dombear said:
Amazing that UT built a stadium smaller than the FC and has almost 70,000 students.
Well amazing if you listen to most who post on this board
What that says to me is that UT doesn't believe they can fill 15,000 on a consistent basis for basketball. Apparently they looked at the situation and configured basketball to what they thought they could consistently fill. Baylor has done the same thing.Yogi said:Moody isn't what it seems.Fre3dombear said:
Amazing that UT built a stadium smaller than the FC and has almost 70,000 students.
Well amazing if you listen to most who post on this board
It seats 10,000 for basketball, but is fitted with 15,000 seats total for concerts. This is an additional upper deck hidden by canvas panels.
I can tell you're not a musician.MrGolfguy said:I stand by my previous statement which is an undeniable fact -- 9K to 10K people are louder than 7K.bear2be2 said:If you want to continue to argue that the Ferrell Center was the optimal basketball environment, you can do so by yourself.MrGolfguy said:The first statement simply isn't true. FC was plenty loud. I'd suggest having your hearing checked.bear2be2 said:
The Ferrell Center wasn't loud.
A capacity crowd there will be much louder than the Ferrell Center ever was.
The second statement is a guess on your part that you have no idea of, you're just pulling something out of your ass; likely untrue b/c 9K-10K is louder than 7K. It's an unarguable fact.
