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Gameday Thread: #9 Baylor (14-2; 3-0) at KSU (12-4; 2-1)

January 15, 2024
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#9 Baylor (14-2; 3-0) visits Kansas State (12-4; 2-1) Tuesday January 16th at 7pm CST.  The game will be televised on ESPN+

KenPom Prediction:  Baylor 73 Kansas State 70

Torvik Prediction:  Baylor 71 Kansas State 70

Evan Miyakawa:  Baylor 74 Kansas State 72

Haslametrics:  Baylor 69 Kansas State 66

Coaches

Kansas State:  Jerome Tang (57) 38-14; NCAA; Sweet 16; Elite 8

Baylor:  Scott Drew (53); 455-245 overall (435-234 at Baylor); 11 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  2-0 Tang

Kansas State Starters

Guard:  Tylor Perry  (SR) 5-11 180 lbs; 15 ppg; 3 reb; 5 asst; 35% FG; 33% 3pt; 94% FT

Guard: Cam Carter (JR) 6-3 195 lbs; 17 ppg; 5 reb; 3 asst; 41% FG; 30% 3pt; 87% FT

Forward: Arthur Kaluma (JR) 6-7 225 lbs; 15 ppg; 8 reb; 45% FG; 39% 3pt; 76% FT

Forward:  David N’Guessan (SR) 6-9 220 lbs; 8 ppg; 8 reb; 57% FG; 9% 3pt; 43% FT

Forward:  Will McNair (SR) 6-11 265 lbs; 8 ppg; 5 reb; 2 blks; 64% FG; 100% 3pt; 61% FT

Kansas State Bench

Guard: Dorian Finister (FR) 6-4 195 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 reb; 48% FG; 20% 3pt; 50% FT

Baylor Starters

Guard:  RayJ Dennis (SR) 6-3 180 lbs; 14 ppg; 4 reb; 6 asst;  53% FG; 41% 3pt; 73% FT

Guard:  Jayden Nunn (JR) 6-3 190 lbs; 10 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 45% FG; 45% 3pt; 71% FT 

Guard:  Ja’Kobe Walter (FR) 6-5 185 lbs; 15 ppg; 4 reb; 43% FG; 39% 3pt; 84% FT

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-9 225 lbs; 10 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst;  45% FG; 37% 3pt; 89% FT

Forward:  Yves Missi (FR) 6-11 220 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 2 blocks; 65% FG; 49% FT

Baylor Bench

Guard:  Langston Love (SO) 6-5 210 lbs; 11 ppg; 2 reb; 48% FG; 48% 3pt; 83% FT

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 3 ppg; 3 reb; 58% FG; 33% 3pt; 70% FT

Forward:  Josh Ojianwuna (SO) 6-10 240 lbs; 6 ppg; 4 reb; 80% FG; 64% FT

Guard:  Miro Little (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 3 ppg; 56% FG; 50% 3pt; 77% FT

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Gameday Thread: #9 Baylor (14-2; 3-0) at KSU (12-4; 2-1)

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SIC EM 94
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9:24p, 1/16/24
Horrible shooting, ridiculous free throw shooting, and pathetic mental mistakes.
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Jacques Strap
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9:24p, 1/16/24
So many turnovers by KSU and we just could not cash in
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In reply to BCC97 • 9:24p, 1/16/24
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BearkatBear said:
y'all know we're still 3-1 in the toughest conference in america right. and 14-3 on the season
With all the good / highly ranked conference teams still on the schedule. This baylor team won't be competitive against Houston or Kansas...or hell, maybe even Oklahoma or Texas.
ok
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9:24p, 1/16/24
Really bad loss
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9:24p, 1/16/24
You have to play near perfect on the road to win in the B12


We better start getting some homecooking at foster
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9:24p, 1/16/24
Can't beat the refs.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

"Jesus is Lord!"- random in the crowd
"You are at the wrong rally!" Kamala Harris' response
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In reply to saucebob • 9:25p, 1/16/24
That's laughable and by a mid KSU squad. This is gonna trickle down into a beating by the longhorns Saturday have a feeling
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9:25p, 1/16/24
We were a very stupid basketball team tonight. Missi's court awareness was horrible in the last minute or so. Lousy free throw shooting didn't help. I hate hate hate losing a game you should win.
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9:25p, 1/16/24
Absolutely pathetic.
If the Big 12 wants to be a basketball conference, they better fix their officiating. It is unbearable to watch.

We deserved this loss.. pathetic shooting, pathetic free throw shooting. Just sad. We are not the #9 team in the country. We have a LOT to fix.
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9:25p, 1/16/24
We lost this game in the first half. K State can score fast and we never took control.

Tang is a really good coach, but this was winnable.
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In reply to BearFan33 • 9:25p, 1/16/24
BearFan33 said:
That's it. Ref fueled win for Kstate. Home cooking. Sure we could have won it but they gave us too much to overcome
You can keep telling yourself that. We shot 19% from 3 and 47% from the line (with not a huge FTA discrepancy). Those aren't ref problems. This team has a laundry list of issues...officiating isn't in the top 10 of those.
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9:25p, 1/16/24
Disappointing performance. Free throws. Turnovers in the first half. Dumb fouls. You're gonna have nights where the shots don't fall, but I thought we took bad shots more than we did all season.

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In reply to BearFan33 • 9:25p, 1/16/24
BearFan33 said:
You have to play near perfect on the road to win in the B12


We better start getting some homecooking at foster
Not tonight. If we had even played poorly, we would have won. Instead, we played like dog*****
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9:25p, 1/16/24
It is literally impossible to lose a game when you get 20 more shots than the opposing team, except maybe in junior high basketball.
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In reply to DanaDane • 9:26p, 1/16/24
DanaDane said:
It is literally impossible to lose a game when you get 20 more shots than the opposing team, except maybe in junior high basketball.
We're baylor. we keep finding new and innovative ways to lose.
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9:26p, 1/16/24
Wide open three missed at the buzzer to win in regulation...wide open three missed by LL to go ahead with 10 seconds left in OT....it was there for the taking. Just didn't finish.

Then a guy who hasn't scored a point since Dec 2 knocks down a huge three for KSU to keep them afloat. Funny game.
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In reply to IowaBear • 9:26p, 1/16/24
IowaBear said:
KSU is mid. By seasons end they'll be under .500 in league play. We're 3-1 and could easily be 0-4
We aren't a very good team. I'll get ripped for that. But it's painfully obvious this teams ceiling is incredibly low compared to recent seasons


I guess the season is over. Okay, Iowa Bear has packed it in. He'll see you next season.
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9:26p, 1/16/24
Why is this team so bad on the basics?
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In reply to BearFan33 • 9:27p, 1/16/24
BearFan33 said:
You have to play near perfect on the road to win in the B12


We better start getting some homecooking at foster


No, you don't need to play perfect. 33% shooting overall, 25% from three, less than 50% from the free throw, a few missed dunks and it was a four point game in OT. Mediocrity or luck would have won this game. Nothing near perfection was needed in this game. We could have really taken control of the conference tonight. Oh well. On to the next one.
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9:27p, 1/16/24
yall are so overreactive. we're fine
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9:27p, 1/16/24
Couldn't believe what a non factor Walter was tonight. Missi needs to get stronger and hang on to the ball. All the missed free throws is a real indicator of a team without much confidence. Losing to this KState team is very concerning.
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In reply to greggor25 • 9:27p, 1/16/24
greggor25 said:
Why is this team so bad on the basics?

This! Fundamentals are terrible.
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9:27p, 1/16/24
Tang 3-0. KSU in basketball and TCU in football. PURPLE is an automatic L for the bears. Just mark it up.
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9:28p, 1/16/24
Ok, we lost a conference game. The lucky win streak with Nunn starting is over. Make Love a starter.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
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9:28p, 1/16/24
Can we petition the Big 12 to move all our remaining road games to Foster Pavilion?
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In reply to BCC97 • 9:28p, 1/16/24
BCC97 said:
BearFan33 said:
That's it. Ref fueled win for Kstate. Home cooking. Sure we could have won it but they gave us too much to overcome
You can keep telling yourself that. We shot 19% from 3 and 47% from the line (with not a huge FTA discrepancy). Those aren't ref problems. This team has a laundry list of issues...officiating isn't in the top 10 of those.


Not going to beat many people shooting that bad and making bad decisions at key times
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 9:29p, 1/16/24
Ahh my biggest fan Evil has arrived good to see you too! Btw we **** the bed against a mid team. Calling a spade a spade is allowed ya know
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In reply to BearkatBear • 9:29p, 1/16/24
BearkatBear said:
yall are so overreactive. we're fine
We have not looked good since before the Michigan State game (disregarding Mississippi Valley State, who is quite literally the worst team in D1).

We've gutted out some close wins, but we are decidedly not "fine."
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9:30p, 1/16/24
we're gonna lose games. we play in the big 12. the fact we didn't lose by 20 tonight with how bad we shot the ball from 3 and the line is a positive. the defense and rebounding was great tonight. this team is still good and if y'all wanna overreact to 1 road conference loss, more power to ya. but im not
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9:30p, 1/16/24
FINAL SHOOTING STATS:


33.8% FG
19.2% 3 point
47.4% FT
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In reply to Mitch Henessey • 9:30p, 1/16/24
Mitch Henessey said:
BearkatBear said:
yall are so overreactive. we're fine
We have not looked good since before the Michigan State game (disregarding Mississippi Valley State, who is quite literally the worst team in D1).

We've gutted out some close wins, but we are decidedly not "fine."
yes we are
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9:30p, 1/16/24
51 missed FG. FIFTY-ONE.

22 more shots than K-State. 6 fewer turnovers. Make it make sense.

Just a Butt ugly game by both teams. Burn the tape.
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In reply to BCC97 • 9:30p, 1/16/24
BCC97 said:
BearFan33 said:
That's it. Ref fueled win for Kstate. Home cooking. Sure we could have won it but they gave us too much to overcome
You can keep telling yourself that. We shot 19% from 3 and 47% from the line (with not a huge FTA discrepancy). Those aren't ref problems. This team has a laundry list of issues...officiating isn't in the top 10 of those.


Calls down the stretch were very one sided. Definitely in the top 10. With that said we found a way to lose it.

Kstate is not very good.
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In reply to DanaDane • 9:31p, 1/16/24
DanaDane said:
FINAL SHOOTING STATS:


33.8% FG
19.2% 3 point
47.4% FT
my point exactly. off shooting night. that's bball. onto the next
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In reply to BearkatBear • 9:31p, 1/16/24
BearkatBear said:
we're gonna lose games. we play in the big 12. the fact we didn't lose by 20 tonight with how bad we shot the ball from 3 and the line is a positive. the defense and rebounding was great tonight. this team is still good and if y'all wanna overreact to 1 road conference loss, more power to ya. but im not

The fact we didn't win easily, as terrible as KState played, is inexcusable.
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