Surprised a Tech twitter account has us at 3 and Tech at 5 even though we have exact same record.

Houston back in sole possession of first place in Big 12. pic.twitter.com/oFE6WWmxIa

— Joseph Duarte (@Joseph_Duarte) February 6, 2024

Stefano DiMera said:

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Surprised a Tech twitter account has us at 3 and Tech at 5 even though we have exact same record.

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I was wondering if this chart is actual current standings. My guess is head to head is first tie breaker then overall record? At a glance maybe the chart is based on that.

Nah..it just appears it's in the order of AP ranking..if 2 or more have the same record they're just listed in that order .

Baylor ISU then Tech because that's how they are in the polls.

Stefano DiMera said:

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Nah..it just appears it's in the order of AP ranking..if 2 or more have the same record they're just listed in that order .

Baylor ISU then Tech because that's how they are in the polls.

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You are right. I should have studied it closer.

NM

But KSU in front of BYU? With same winning percentage

In Roberts Rules of Order 5-5 trumps 4-4 even if they're the same winning percentage.

Instead of showing the number of teams, which we already know, the numbers should show the rankings as tied:

1. Houston
2. Baylor
2. Iowa State
2. Tech
5. Kansas
6. TCU
7. K State
8. BYU
9. UCF
9. Texas
9. OU
9. Cincy
13. WVU
14. OSU

Adjustments can be made if there are criteria used.

More wins

Four teams in the Big 12 have at least 6 wins. Their conference strength of schedules are as follows:

Houston (7-3): 13th out of 14
Iowa State (6-3): 1st out of 14
Baylor (6-3): 12th out of 14
Kansas (6-4): 14th out of 14

I'll let you decide which is most impressive.

— Alex Gookin (@_AlexGookin) February 7, 2024

ISU does look pretty good.

But SOS is pretty minimal. Outside of OSU, every team is a tough out especially at home.

https://instagr.am/p/C25GdWIORXX

Ok....top of conference is

UH 8-3
ISU 8-3
BU 7-4
TT 7-4
KU 7-5

Saturday games:

TT @ ISU
BU @ WVU
UT @ UH

Most likely outcome BU beats WVU...UH beats UT...ISU beats TT. That would have us in solo third behind UH and ISU tied for first.

Of course....nothing is a sure thing in the B12.

If BU wins and ISU loses to TT and UH gets beat by UT we have a 4 way tie for first with BU/UH/ISU/TT all at 8-4.

Other permutations possible too of course. Anyway...good to see we are hanging near the top.

GoodOleBaylorLine said:

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ISU does look pretty good.

But SOS is pretty minimal. Outside of OSU, every team is a tough out especially at home.

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And you may recall we barely escaped with an OT nail biter win in Stillwater at the start of the conference season.

Solo third

ISU and UH play Monday night in Houston....so the tie at the top won't last long

And we just punched our ticket to the tourney officially

Big Monday in Houston: 20-5 @CycloneMBB vs. 22-3 @UHCougarMBK for 1st in @Big12Conference . Both teams have great “coach on the floor” PG’s, both have HIGH energy bigs, both have elite defensive systems, both have dynamic shot-makers & both have incredible home court advantages.…

— Fran Fraschilla (@franfraschilla) February 18, 2024

Houston, Iowa State & Kansas are the only Big 12 teams that are undefeated at home. Everyone else has at least one home loss. Alas, that includes our Bears!

IvanBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Big Monday in Houston: 20-5 @CycloneMBB vs. 22-3 @UHCougarMBK for 1st in @Big12Conference . Both teams have great “coach on the floor” PG’s, both have HIGH energy bigs, both have elite defensive systems, both have dynamic shot-makers & both have incredible home court advantages.…

— Fran Fraschilla (@franfraschilla) February 18, 2024

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If Houston wins this game, we control our own destiny in the big 12.

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ISU has a relatively "easy" schedule by B12 standards after the UH game

The AP Top 25 is not a particularly big deal to me because most of the voters don’t see every game of the weekend. But, for arguments sake, we should have No. 2 @UHCougarMBK vs. No.7 @CycloneMBB tomorrow night in Houston. @Big12Conference

— Fran Fraschilla (@franfraschilla) February 18, 2024

My thoughts exactly. A win in Provo could energize the time to face Houston at home Saturday. If we can win that one too, we could win out in the next 4. I don't really expect that because they league is too good & the games too difficult. But it's nice to know it's possible and the team is playing great now. If Love is able to play again it increases our odds.

𝗕𝗶𝗴 𝗠𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘆 🤝 𝗕𝗶𝗴 𝟭𝟮

Have a feeling this place will be rockin’ tomorrow night with sole possession of 1st Place on the line.

📺 ESPN | 8 CT@UHCougarMBK | @CycloneMBB pic.twitter.com/9v2rv7DOyZ

— Big 12 Conference (@Big12Conference) February 18, 2024

Texas Longhorns Head Coach Rodney Terry: "You gotta be built for it. If we were going to still stay in this league with these guys (Houston), we'd have to build to having that physicality - you know what I mean - and things of that nature." pic.twitter.com/trVWsjcHLi

— Kris M Gardner (@TheHRReview) February 18, 2024

I hate the "if only game" because usually you win a game or games you shouldn't have. But dad gum we haven't stolen any games this year. We've only given them away. To be honest, it's an embarrassment that we aren't 10-2 right not and could be even better.

Oh well we are playing good ball right now. Let's get it done and make Saturday the biggest game of the year!

Big_Pumpin said:

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I hate the "if only game" because usually you win a game or games you shouldn't have. But dad gum we haven't stolen any games this year. We've only given them away. To be honest, it's an embarrassment that we aren't 10-2 right not and could be even better.

Oh well we are playing good ball right now. Let's get it done and make Saturday the biggest game of the year!

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I think you could make a pretty strong case that we stole the Oklahoma State game, and the Cincinnati game could have gone either way, which speaks to how we were playing to open Big 12 play. But we've definitely let more winnable games slip away than we've stolen.

ISU and Houston are the two best squads in the league right now. And ISU has a very very favorable schedule down the stretch. Possible 5-1 finish. To have any chance of catching them 2-0 again this week is required and that feels rather unlikely. That's not a knock on BU that's a credit to how tough these games are. Zero way there's a team with a tougher last 6 in league play than what awaits BU

Yeah I wish there was someone with a lot of time on their hands to research who got the best draw on the unbalanced schedule. I.e. who got to play West Virginia and Okstate twice and got only UH Kansas Iowa St etc once.

Would love to win the conference...but i'm most concerned with us maintaining a 3 seed or better.

boognish_bear said:

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Would love to win the conference...but i'm most concerned with us maintaining a 3 seed or better.

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Conference championships in basketball have never been that big a deal to me. It's cool to win them, for sure, but I'll happily take a run to the Sweet 16 or deeper any year with or without a conference championship attached. And I'll be disappointed with a first-weekend tournament exit most years with or without a championship.

And I care even less about them now that everyone in our league is playing a different schedule. The paths to the title vary widely in difficulty with this new schedule, making it mean less than it ever has IMO.

According to @EvanMiya, @UHCougarMBK leads country with 29 “kill shots,” 10-0 runs or more. @CycloneMBB have had 23 this season. Evan, how many of Coogs’ 10-0 runs have been at home? Could be factor tomorrow night.

— Fran Fraschilla (@franfraschilla) February 19, 2024

We beat BYU on the road and we're beating Houston at home. That BYU road game, and I know you disagree, will be really tough. Think it's our hardest game left.

But if Iowa St wins tomorrow, it might be over with their remaining schedule. At a minimum, would like to have wins over both of the two "best." While motivation is uncertain, like our chances v Uh at home.