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Gameday Thread: #11 Baylor (19-6; 8-4) at #25 BYU (18-7; 6-6)

February 18, 2024
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#11 Baylor (19-6; 8-4) travels to Provo, Utah to take on #25 BYU (18-7; 6-6) Tuesday February 20th at 8pm CST.  The game will be televised on ESPN2.  

 

KenPom Prediction:  BYU 79 Baylor 77

Torvik Prediction:  BYU 81 Baylor 76

Evan Miyakawa:  BYU 80 Baylor 76

Haslametrics:  BYU 78 Baylor 73

Coaches

BYU:  Mark Pope (51) 182-104 (105-48 at BYU); NCAA

Baylor:  Scott Drew (53); 460-249 overall (440-238 at Baylor); 11 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  1-0 Drew

BYU Starters

Guard:  Dallin Hall (SO) 6-4 195 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 5 asst; 45% FG; 38% 3pt; 62% FT

Guard: Trevin Knell (JR) 6-5 185 lbs; 12 ppg; 4 reb; 2 asst; 47% FG; 41% 3pt; 75% FT

Guard: Spencer Johnson (SR) 6-5 195 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 42% FG; 30%pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Noah Watterman (SR) 6-11 220 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 46% FG; 38% 3pt; 85% FT

Forward:  Aly Khalifa (JR) 6-11 245 lbs; 6 ppg; 4 reb; 4 asst; 42% FG; 36% 3pt; 44% FT

BYU Bench

Forward:  Jaxson Robinson (SR) 6-7 190 lbs; 14 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 43% FG; 36% 3pt; 89% FT

Forward:  Foussenyi Traore (JR) 6-6 240 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 62% FG; 67% 3pt; 78% FT

Guard: Richie Saunders (SO) 6-5 200 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 53% FG; 33% 3pt; 71% FT

Forward:  Atiki Ally Atiki (JR) 6-10 220 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 reb; 62% FG; 46% FT

Baylor Starters

Guard:  RayJ Dennis (SR) 6-3 180 lbs; 13 ppg; 4 reb; 7 asst;  49% FG; 40% 3pt; 70% FT

Guard:  Jayden Nunn (JR) 6-3 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 48% FG; 45% 3pt; 67% FT 

Guard:  Ja’Kobe Walter (FR) 6-5 185 lbs; 15 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 39% FG; 33% 3pt; 86% FT

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-9 225 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 45% FG; 39% 3pt; 86% FT

Forward:  Yves Missi (FR) 6-11 220 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 2 blocks; 65% FG; 58% FT

Baylor Bench

Guard:  Langston Love (SO) 6-5 210 lbs; 12 ppg; 3 reb; 46% FG; 49% 3pt; 80% FT

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 54% FG; 25% 3pt; 79% FT

Forward:  Josh Ojianwuna (SO) 6-10 240 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 79% FG; 59% FT

Guard:  Miro Little (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 2 ppg; 46% FG; 38% 3pt; 73% FT

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Gameday Thread: #11 Baylor (19-6; 8-4) at #25 BYU (18-7; 6-6)

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Oldbear83
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10:13p, 2/20/24
7.8 seconds, down by 9
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In reply to cleverbearname • 10:13p, 2/20/24
cleverbearname said:
Walter 19/80 on 3pt in conference


Our lowest percentage shooter takes the most it seems
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Mitch Henessey
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10:13p, 2/20/24
Gotta hold serve at home on Saturday. Let's hope we watch this game film and remember how to rebound.
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10:13p, 2/20/24
Offensive struggles aside, our lack of defensive recognition was what alarmed me the most about this game.
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In reply to BearFan33 • 10:14p, 2/20/24
He's often left unguarded and still tosses up bricks. He should be doing nothing but driving the ball to the rim at this point
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10:14p, 2/20/24
Bears lose by 7

Lost to really good 3 point shooting, weak defense at key points, and hurt by a few bad calls.

A couple calls our way and this may have been a different end.

Congrats to BYU, hope the team gets back on track against Houston
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10:15p, 2/20/24
Don't know why we didn't at least try zone. I get it that conventional wisdom is don't zone a good 3 point shooting team, but sine they were torching our man defense in every way possible (including from beyond the arc) didn't see what we had to lose by trying it.
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In reply to Guitarbiscuit • 10:15p, 2/20/24
Guitarbiscuit said:
Offensive struggles aside, our lack of defensive recognition was what alarmed me the most about this game.


Zone.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:15p, 2/20/24
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
thorough a$$ whipping and stop blaming refs..
You quit long ago, shut up about the fans who still believe
says the ref blamer..
I am a former official. I know a thing or two about that.
ymca bb doesnt count,,,,quit blaming refs,,,,this loss had nothing to do with officiating...
NCAA-certified, but I understand you naturally think of your own level
i call it like i seeit,,we stunk it up in all phases and its laughable when you single out the officiating...please
let me hear you say we stunk it up...
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10:15p, 2/20/24
I hope Langston Love is 100% vs Houston.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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10:16p, 2/20/24
You guys think that zoning a team that hit 14 3 pointers is a viable gameplan?
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10:16p, 2/20/24
Didn't get to watch the whole game, can someone tell me why we're blaming the refs when we got to take about 20 more free throws than BYU?
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:16p, 2/20/24
Oldbear83 said:
Bears lose by 7

Lost to really good 3 point shooting, weak defense at key points, and hurt by a few bad calls.

A couple calls our way and this may have been a different end.

Congrats to BYU, hope the team gets back on track against Houston
calls , calls, calls quit beating a dead horse...
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10:16p, 2/20/24
BYU is good. Our D was frustrating to watch.

Was really hoping for the W to have a tie for first place on the line on Saturday.

Now we will be in a tie for 3rd with KU and either TT or TCU.
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In reply to oldbear69 • 10:17p, 2/20/24
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
thorough a$$ whipping and stop blaming refs..
You quit long ago, shut up about the fans who still believe
says the ref blamer..
I am a former official. I know a thing or two about that.
ymca bb doesnt count,,,,quit blaming refs,,,,this loss had nothing to do with officiating...


Hey man. Don't knock the Y. My coaching career peaked there with 10 year olds.
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In reply to oldbear69 • 10:17p, 2/20/24
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
thorough a$$ whipping and stop blaming refs..
You quit long ago, shut up about the fans who still believe
says the ref blamer..
I am a former official. I know a thing or two about that.
ymca bb doesnt count,,,,quit blaming refs,,,,this loss had nothing to do with officiating...
NCAA-certified, but I understand you naturally think of your own level
i call it like i seeit,,we stunk it up in all phases and its laughable when you single out the officiating...please
let me hear you say we stunk it up...
You quit on the team long ago, you have earned nothing but some well-deserved jeers.
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10:17p, 2/20/24
-When you have 8 total assists in a game and all 8 came from one player, you have a team problem with moving the basketball on offense. You're basically playing one-on-one ball.

-I'm tired of complaining about the D. The signs after the past 2 years are obvious. There's a fundamental coaching or recruiting issue on the defensive side of the ball that needs to get fixed.

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In reply to Mitch Henessey • 10:17p, 2/20/24
Mitch Henessey said:
Gotta hold serve at home on Saturday. Let's hope we watch this game film and remember how to rebound.


Must win at home, don't care who it is. Hopefully Love can suit up. Don't remember any injury but posts claiming he was down
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10:17p, 2/20/24
At least we know next time we can save on hotels and not get to town a day early.
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10:18p, 2/20/24
My cable is out. Had to watch on my phone. Anyone see what happened to Love?
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In reply to Quinton • 10:18p, 2/20/24
Quinton said:
Mitch Henessey said:
Gotta hold serve at home on Saturday. Let's hope we watch this game film and remember how to rebound.


Must win at home, don't care who it is. Hopefully Love can suit up. Don't remember any injury but posts claiming he was down
Hopefully precautionary, but he went down right before the 16:00 media timeout and never came back in the game.
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In reply to Quinton • 10:18p, 2/20/24
Quinton said:
Mitch Henessey said:
Gotta hold serve at home on Saturday. Let's hope we watch this game film and remember how to rebound.


Must win at home, don't care who it is. Hopefully Love can suit up. Don't remember any injury but posts claiming he was down
Guess we will see Saturday, I would not expect Drew to announce ahead of time.

Would be a nice bounce-back indeed to beat Houston!
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In reply to Mitch Henessey • 10:19p, 2/20/24
Even announcers said Baylor can't go zone due to 3 point shooting of byu.
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In reply to DanaDane • 10:19p, 2/20/24
Jesus that's pathetic! 1 guy had an assist. That has to be some sort of a record.
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In reply to IowaBear • 10:19p, 2/20/24
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He's often left unguarded and still tosses up bricks. He should be doing nothing but driving the ball to the rim at this point


Unfortunately...his handles are suspect at times too...but yeah I definitely prefer seeing him shoot 2s
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In reply to DanaDane • 10:19p, 2/20/24
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-When you have 8 total assists in a game and all 8 came from one player, you have a team problem with moving the basketball on offense. You're basically playing one-on-one ball.

-I'm tired of complaining about the D. The signs after the past 2 years are obvious. There's a fundamental coaching or recruiting issue on the defensive side of the ball that needs to get fixed.


We definitely got out-coached this game.
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In reply to amcelroy • 10:20p, 2/20/24
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Didn't get to watch the whole game, can someone tell me why we're blaming the refs when we got to take about 20 more free throws than BYU?
because some on here , just won't admit we're a pretty ordinary team, with some serious problems,,,, just keep blaming refs...
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Even announcers said Baylor can't go zone due to 3 point shooting of byu.
I mean, if we're just throwing crap at the wall, I guess you can try it, but if the other team is shooting like they were tonight, it's a recipe to get blown out by 25+. Especially if you're having trouble rebounding as it is.
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In reply to DanaDane • 10:21p, 2/20/24
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-I'm tired of complaining about the D. The signs after the past 2 years are obvious. There's a fundamental coaching or recruiting issue on the defensive side of the ball that needs to get fixed.



It's a major problem. We've missed on nearly every defensive eval we've done recently. And there is an instruction/ knowledge retention issue as well.

I do think Nunn has finally improved. I'm at a loss with the others. Dennis is okay at very limited times. Our footwork is some of the worst I've seen.
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In reply to IowaBear • 10:21p, 2/20/24
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He's often left unguarded and still tosses up bricks. He should be doing nothing but driving the ball to the rim at this point

I agree. I appreciate that he plays hard and tries to contribute in other ways, but he simply isn't as advertised as far as a scorer goes. Disappointing.
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In reply to PaperBear89 • 10:22p, 2/20/24
PaperBear89 said:
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
Oldbear83 said:
oldbear69 said:
thorough a$$ whipping and stop blaming refs..
You quit long ago, shut up about the fans who still believe
says the ref blamer..
I am a former official. I know a thing or two about that.
ymca bb doesnt count,,,,quit blaming refs,,,,this loss had nothing to do with officiating...


Hey man. Don't knock the Y. My coaching career peaked there with 10 year olds.
was oldbear 83 officiating?
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In reply to Mitch Henessey • 10:23p, 2/20/24
That's the issue. Houston is prime for a zone. But I'm worried they'll literally out rebound us by 25 if we go primarily zone.
Than again if we go man Shead May break the layups made record
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10:23p, 2/20/24
This game is a perfect example of how in "flow" sports, the most important (and often forgotten) thing is what offensive players do when they don't have the ball.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 10:24p, 2/20/24
Johnny Bear said:
IowaBear said:
He's often left unguarded and still tosses up bricks. He should be doing nothing but driving the ball to the rim at this point

I agree. I appreciate that he plays hard and tries to contribute in other ways, but he simply isn't as advertised as far as a scorer goes. Disappointing.
He is our leading scorer, on a team that is very balanced in scoring, so I don't think that's an accurate assessment. But, he was advertised as a great three point shooter, and he's been anything but in conference play.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:24p, 2/20/24
boognish_bear said:
BYU is good. Our D was frustrating to watch.

Was really hoping for the W to have a tie for first place on the line on Saturday.

Now we will be in a tie for 3rd with KU and either TT or TCU.

Tech 82
TCU 81

Tech is tied with Baylor & Kansas. TCU is tied with BYU.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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