Since a 2 seed is doable, I'm curious about opinions on what the minimum is between now and the end of the B12 Tournament to get there?

That's probably right. If we lose in Lubbock on Saturday, but at least get to the championship round in the B12 Tourney we may well still have a decent shot dependent on what happens elsewhere in the country. I'm assuming losing Saturday and winning the B12 Tourney gets us there as well.

I'm looking equally at what other teams are doing.

Teams like Marquette, Creighton and ISU losing would not hurt. Can't have Marquette beat UCONN tonight.

We traditionally don't do well in the Big 12 tournament, so we need to win Saturday to have a chance.

Johnny Bear said:

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Since a 2 seed is doable, I'm curious about opinions on what the minimum is between now and the end of the B12 Tournament to get there?

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To get a 2 seed, we will need to win out .

Win the next 2 and have someone on the bottom of that 2 line stumble down the stretch losing their next 2 or 2 out of 3.

Shakesbear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Since a 2 seed is doable, I'm curious about opinions on what the minimum is between now and the end of the B12 Tournament to get there?

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To get a 2 seed, we will need to win out .

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That would do it for sure, but it's still at least a possibility short of that - although the dependence on others faltering also obviously increases.

Johnny Bear said:

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Since a 2 seed is doable, I'm curious about opinions on what the minimum is between now and the end of the B12 Tournament to get there?

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Saying a thing is "doable" suggests to me there is a certain amount of probability in it. I don't see that. Way too many variables. Tennessee has a tough game tonight and KY at home. If they win out, they are a 1, putting Arizona on the 2. Marquette has an injury, but their drop would likely be countered by Creighton who is on the same line as us. Same story for NC and Duke. Which brings us to Iowa State. Though we beat them in Waco, they lock up 2nd place in the Big 12 with a win tonight, while we are still hoping to lock up 3rd or 4th seed in the Conference tournament. If ISU beats BYU, not sure anything that happens at the Big 12 tourney will make a difference.

TWD 1974 said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Since a 2 seed is doable, I'm curious about opinions on what the minimum is between now and the end of the B12 Tournament to get there?

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Saying a thing is "doable" suggests to me there is a certain amount of probability in it. I don't see that. Way too many variables. Tennessee has a tough game tonight and KY at home. If they win out, they are a 1, putting Arizona on the 2. Marquette has an injury, but their drop would likely be countered by Creighton who is on the same line as us. Same story for NC and Duke. Which brings us to Iowa State. Though we beat them in Waco, they lock up 2nd place in the Big 12 with a win tonight, while we are still hoping to lock up 3rd or 4th seed in the Conference tournament. If ISU beats BYU, not sure anything that happens at the Big 12 tourney will make a difference.

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In that scenario I do believe another head to head win against ISU would secure us a 2 seed over them, or a face plant by them in the first round and us going to the championship game.

IvanBear said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Since a 2 seed is doable, I'm curious about opinions on what the minimum is between now and the end of the B12 Tournament to get there?

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Saying a thing is "doable" suggests to me there is a certain amount of probability in it. I don't see that. Way too many variables. Tennessee has a tough game tonight and KY at home. If they win out, they are a 1, putting Arizona on the 2. Marquette has an injury, but their drop would likely be countered by Creighton who is on the same line as us. Same story for NC and Duke. Which brings us to Iowa State. Though we beat them in Waco, they lock up 2nd place in the Big 12 with a win tonight, while we are still hoping to lock up 3rd or 4th seed in the Conference tournament. If ISU beats BYU, not sure anything that happens at the Big 12 tourney will make a difference.

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In that scenario I do believe another head to head win against ISU would secure us a 2 seed over them, or a face plant by them in the first round and us going to the championship game.

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If we beat ISU a second time in the semis, yes it might make a seeding difference. I think my doubts come down to the power 5 conference tournaments and the decline of their influence on the selection committee. Example (a tough one), 2 years ago, Baylor limped into the conference tourney without Jonathan and LJ. We lose our first game to OU, yet somehow, we keep the no. 1 seed. Why? I have come to think that an unintended consequence of being the best basketball conference is that our conference tournament has become largely irrelevant to the NCAA selection process. In the 24 hours leading up to selection, the committee often has its hands full dealing with the selections down the line--an upset in a lesser tourney shakes up the 8-12 seeding. I would think the last thing they want to do is realign the 1st and second seeds on Sunday--which will realign everything below them! Granted they will do it if they have to, but someone is going to have to look awfully good or awfully bad to make a change on the top lines.

I think 2 more wins and we're a 2 seed. I think if we lose the next 2 games we are still a 3 seed. We pretty much have the toughest schedule in the Country and the Committee looks at that.

If we can beat Kansas again in KC that will be huge. It's not the minimum, though.

The Big 12 tourney could make a difference if we can get more Quad 1 wins. Wins over Houston, Iowa State & Kansas certainly would boost our NET score.