How long is Scott Drew's leash?

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In reply to Bleed Green • 4:22p, 3/26/24
Bleed Green said:
So, if I am reading this correctly, some of our fanbase think we should fire a coach who will be in the HOF one day, has taken us to the NCAA Tournament the last 5 times it was held, takes us to the sweet 16 roughly 25% of the time, has a national championship, and is a consensus top 10 coach?

I have long defended this fanbase as better than any other. I will now have to go and apologize to my sip and aggie friends. We have just as many idiots as they do. Some of the comments are absolutely ludicrous.

If you honestly don't want Drew coaching our team then you have absolutely no clue about Baylor and its history, and have little knowledge of how good programs operate. We gave Drew an opportunity when he was young. We allowed him to learn without a whole lot of pressure, and now some of you want to allow another school to reap the benefits. Drew would be unemployed for less than 5 minutes if we let him go. Drew's leash runs out at immoral or felony acts at this point. 10 years from now if we have less than 2 Big 12 titles, 9 tournament appearances, less than 3 sweet 16's and no championships, then maybe we can shorten that leash to have some sort of performance requirement.
First off, what are you doing with Aggie and sip friends. Friend (singular) is okay. But we all know how they get in groups.

Should we now question your judgement as well?
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In reply to Bleed Green • 7:47p, 3/26/24
Did someone want to fire him? Who?
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9:08p, 3/26/24
Drew is not going anywhere and no sane Baylor fan wants him to go anywhere. Anyone who wants him to leave is more likely a troll or delusional other fans (like the Louisville posters) than a Baylor fan.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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8:15a, 3/27/24
All it takes is 1 natty and at a school like Baylor,you get lifetime Emeritus Maximus status.
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In reply to Porteroso • 8:34a, 3/27/24
Porteroso said:
All it takes is 1 natty and at a school like Baylor,you get lifetime Emeritus Maximus status.
Unless you're an unbearable megalomaniac like Kim Mulkey. As good a coach as she is -- I'd put her in the top three or four all time in her sport -- I'm glad she's someone else's problem now.

Fortunately, Scott Drew is an excellent coach and a wonderful ambassador for our university. The mere thought of pushing him out should be met with ridicule and summarily dismissed.
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In reply to ALLBEAR • 8:37a, 3/27/24
ALLBEAR said:
Really, though. How long is it? We are the most overrated team every year.
I believe it is tethered to Voyager 1
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 8:45a, 3/27/24
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?
There are a couple on here.

I understand frustration in a one-and-done tournament, but this is why message board warriors don't run athletic programs.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 9:15a, 3/27/24
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 10:00a, 3/27/24
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?
There are a couple on here.

I understand frustration in a one-and-done tournament, but this is why message board warriors don't run athletic programs.
In fairness, though, a lot of college athletic programs are run by absolute morons.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 11:15a, 3/27/24
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?
what else happens at the end of a leash?
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In reply to Bleed Green • 11:24a, 3/27/24
Bleed Green said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?
what else happens at the end of a leash?
Poor use of that metaphor
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In reply to Bear8084 • 11:26a, 3/27/24
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 11:26a, 3/27/24
Hopefully they don't run anything. Can you imagine someone who thinks that way trying to run a corporation? A military operation? An engineering project? Home construction? Or anything else of consequence?

The more I think about it the more I think they are probably trolls.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to bear2be2 • 11:30a, 3/27/24
bear2be2 said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?
There are a couple on here.

I understand frustration in a one-and-done tournament, but this is why message board warriors don't run athletic programs.
In fairness, though, a lot of college athletic programs are run by absolute morons.

True but it should be obvious to anyone paying attention that Scott Drew is not one of them.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 3:03p, 3/27/24
Robert Wilson said:
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.


There's a difference between expressing frustrations with early exits and titling a post "how long is Drew's leash?"

The title implies the thought of "how soon can we talk about making a change at head coach because I'd like to talk about it right now, but I'll phrase it in a way to gauge if other people agree with me."

Otherwise you'd title a thread "I'm getting frustrated with first weekend exits."
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 3:10p, 3/27/24
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.


There's a difference between expressing frustrations with early exits and titling a post "how long is Drew's leash?"

The title implies the thought of "how soon can we talk about making a change at head coach because I'd like to talk about it right now, but I'll phrase it in a way to gauge if other people agree with me."

Otherwise you'd title a thread "I'm getting frustrated with first weekend exits."


*nods*
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 3:41p, 3/27/24
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.


There's a difference between expressing frustrations with early exits and titling a post "how long is Drew's leash?"

The title implies the thought of "how soon can we talk about making a change at head coach because I'd like to talk about it right now, but I'll phrase it in a way to gauge if other people agree with me."

Otherwise you'd title a thread "I'm getting frustrated with first weekend exits."
Saying "how long is his leash" is not the same thing as saying "he should be fired." You're spinning.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 4:01p, 3/27/24
Robert Wilson said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.


There's a difference between expressing frustrations with early exits and titling a post "how long is Drew's leash?"

The title implies the thought of "how soon can we talk about making a change at head coach because I'd like to talk about it right now, but I'll phrase it in a way to gauge if other people agree with me."

Otherwise you'd title a thread "I'm getting frustrated with first weekend exits."
Saying "how long is his leash" is not the same thing as saying "he should be fired." You're spinning.


Is there a difference between saying "how long is his leash" and "how hot is his seat?" What would the difference be?
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 4:21p, 3/27/24
I'm not saying that it's the case here but some people like to go for drama.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to Bleed Green • 9:23a, 3/28/24
Bleed Green said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?
what else happens at the end of a leash?
Technically, you are violently pulled back from whence you came
Retreat Hell! We just got here! The 2/5
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 9:40a, 3/28/24
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.


There's a difference between expressing frustrations with early exits and titling a post "how long is Drew's leash?"

The title implies the thought of "how soon can we talk about making a change at head coach because I'd like to talk about it right now, but I'll phrase it in a way to gauge if other people agree with me."

Otherwise you'd title a thread "I'm getting frustrated with first weekend exits."
Saying "how long is his leash" is not the same thing as saying "he should be fired." You're spinning.


Is there a difference between saying "how long is his leash" and "how hot is his seat?" What would the difference be?


Hot seat metaphor makes a lot more sense than leash, but neither one is the same thing as saying I want him fired.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 10:32a, 3/28/24
Robert Wilson said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.


There's a difference between expressing frustrations with early exits and titling a post "how long is Drew's leash?"

The title implies the thought of "how soon can we talk about making a change at head coach because I'd like to talk about it right now, but I'll phrase it in a way to gauge if other people agree with me."

Otherwise you'd title a thread "I'm getting frustrated with first weekend exits."
Saying "how long is his leash" is not the same thing as saying "he should be fired." You're spinning.


Is there a difference between saying "how long is his leash" and "how hot is his seat?" What would the difference be?


Hot seat metaphor makes a lot more sense than leash, but neither one is the same thing as saying I want him fired.
I would say in Drew's case, it is not hot seat or leash. It is more about his legacy than his job security. Losing too many entry level rounds will tarnish his reputation or his ability to be a diva (don't mean in a negative, but ability to do what he wants, how he wants), but I can't see Baylor getting rid of him.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 5:01p, 3/28/24
FLBear5630 said:
Robert Wilson said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Robert Wilson said:
Bear8084 said:
Robert Wilson said:
Did someone want to fire him? Who?


The OP and 5 others apparently.
I saw him express frustration with early exits. I didn't see him exactly say he wants him fired.

Unsurprising that people are frustrated with that game, and that some goobers would overstate the frustration after a few early exits.

At the same time, histrionics re: people calling for Drew's head are also over the top here. I don't see that really happening.


There's a difference between expressing frustrations with early exits and titling a post "how long is Drew's leash?"

The title implies the thought of "how soon can we talk about making a change at head coach because I'd like to talk about it right now, but I'll phrase it in a way to gauge if other people agree with me."

Otherwise you'd title a thread "I'm getting frustrated with first weekend exits."
Saying "how long is his leash" is not the same thing as saying "he should be fired." You're spinning.


Is there a difference between saying "how long is his leash" and "how hot is his seat?" What would the difference be?


Hot seat metaphor makes a lot more sense than leash, but neither one is the same thing as saying I want him fired.
I would say in Drew's case, it is not hot seat or leash. It is more about his legacy than his job security. Losing too many entry level rounds will tarnish his reputation or his ability to be a diva (don't mean in a negative, but ability to do what he wants, how he wants), but I can't see Baylor getting rid of him, EVER.

FIFY
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10:17p, 3/28/24
Dude is going to have his statue on the Brazos forever.
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10:18p, 3/28/24
Short of some coeds making some uncorroborated allegations of sexual assault by the basketball team, he should be fine.
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In reply to Yogi • 10:00a, 3/29/24
Yogi said:
Dude is going to have his statue on the Brazos forever.
Concur.
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In reply to Yogi • 3:08p, 3/29/24
Yogi said:
Dude is going to have his statue on the Brazos forever.
Trophy in one hand and a hat in the other
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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 4:00p, 3/29/24
LIB,MR BEARS said:
Yogi said:
Dude is going to have his statue on the Brazos forever.
Trophy in one hand and a hat in the other
Not if there is more than one, trophy...
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4:28p, 3/29/24
There is no leash.
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4:37p, 3/29/24
Tom Izzo and Jim Boeheim each won a single national championship. Izzo hasn't been a legit threat at a Final Four championship in 15 years. Each got to dictate his own exit.

There is no leash. Unless your name is Kentucky, you simply don't run national championship winning coaches out of the program.

ETA: Also, given what a perfect cultural fit CSD is for Baylor, it is just wild to think this is even a topic.
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5:09p, 3/29/24
For a team where NONE of the 5 starters played with each other before this season, and 4 out of the 5 weren't even at Baylor, and 2 were freshmen - it was going to be a big challenge for SD and staff. I don't think the coaches did too bad of a job considering that, though I understand why SD is held to a higher standard and why people expect more from him. Regardless, it speaks to the benefit of continuity within the program as opposed to high turnover from the portal and immature one and dones.
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In reply to DallasBear9902 • 6:19p, 3/29/24
DallasBear9902 said:
Tom Izzo and Jim Boeheim each won a single national championship. Izzo hasn't been a legit threat at a Final Four championship in 15 years. Each got to dictate his own exit.

There is no leash. Unless your name is Kentucky, you simply don't run national championship winning coaches out of the program.

ETA: Also, given what a perfect cultural fit CSD is for Baylor, it is just wild to think this is even a topic.
It's only an issue for folks who registered on this site 2 months ago. Any actual Baylor Basketball fan who has been a sentient being the past 10-20 years would agree that Scott Drew has his job for as long as he wants it.
I will add, I in no way think he is done. He will be cutting down nets again in the future. Bank on it.
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3:37p, 3/30/24
I'm just glad Mulkey and her historonics didn't win out because I can see a not too alternate universe where Drew would have bolted for Indiana Michigan or Louisville if he had to deal with her long term
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In reply to Daveisabovereproach • 6:33p, 3/30/24
No Quarterback said:
Winning a national championship gets you an infinite leash at Baylor. Look at Dave Aranda. One good season out of four, and we're still keeping him even though everyone and their dog knows that he's toast. Drew is an upbeat, positive guy that fits the "Baylor vibe" or whatever you wanna call it. He is a good marketing tool for Baylor, and that's good for donations. Private schools need donations. Ergo, he ain't going anywhere anytime soon

not advocating that he get fired, because he would be very difficult to replace.
I don't want to fire him either, but winning national championships didn't save CKM.
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In reply to TexasScientist • 6:42p, 3/30/24
TexasScientist said:
No Quarterback said:
Winning a national championship gets you an infinite leash at Baylor. Look at Dave Aranda. One good season out of four, and we're still keeping him even though everyone and their dog knows that he's toast. Drew is an upbeat, positive guy that fits the "Baylor vibe" or whatever you wanna call it. He is a good marketing tool for Baylor, and that's good for donations. Private schools need donations. Ergo, he ain't going anywhere anytime soon

not advocating that he get fired, because he would be very difficult to replace.
I don't want to fire him either, but winning national championships didn't save CKM.


I doubt CSD is going to stomp his feet and demand where arenas go and want basketball courts named after him either.
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