All Scott needs to do is go back and study what happened to Eddie Sutton and Billy Clyde Gillespie when they made that move to run (not walk) as fast as possible in the other direction.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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Drew to UK is not likely to happen but the one thing that should scare Baylor fans wanting to keep him is Scott and Homer are good friends with Barnhart.

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I had read this. Actually what I just read is that Drew is friends with him going back to Barhardt being a big wig regarding the NCAA tourney the year we won it all. I'm not sure how close they are. Hopefully by now Drew and Rhoades are friends as well. But UK is also like what Michigan or Texas are in football. A football coach that is high on their list is going to have a hard time saying no. That is how UK is in men's hoops. That is why I said this is a different ball game than Louisville was.

Cal turned down a $100M offer to be Head Coach and President of Operations for the Cavs when they told him they were bringing back LeBron and getting the #1 Pick in 2014

10 Years Later he jumps at a $1M Annual Salary Paycut to go to … Arkansas

What does that say?

— Grant Peters (@Real_GP) April 8, 2024

Look.

I neither want nor expect Scott Drew to leave for Kentucky.

HOWEVER, the idea of Kentucky landing the head coach that Louisville fans convinced themselves was taking THEIR job for a month, would be ALL the LOLs.

— Ten12 Podcast Network (@Ten12Network) April 8, 2024

The Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Louisville, and Villanova jobs have ALL opened in the past three years.

A new era.

— College Basketball Report (@CBKReport) April 8, 2024

whitetrash said:

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All Scott needs to do is go back and study what happened to Eddie Sutton and Billy Clyde Gillespie when they made that move to run (not walk) as fast as possible in the other direction.

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Sutton got a raw deal. Billy Clyde kind of set himself on fire.

TWD 1974 said:

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whitetrash said:

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All Scott needs to do is go back and study what happened to Eddie Sutton and Billy Clyde Gillespie when they made that move to run (not walk) as fast as possible in the other direction.

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Sutton got a raw deal. Billy Clyde kind of set himself on fire.

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Doused himself in alcohol, then lit himself on fire.

Arkansas is one of the top basketball jobs in the SEC.

Resources, rabid fan base, Calipari gets fresh start, but he needs to work on roster construction - because that’s been lacking over the last few years. Needs to hit the portal harder because a freshman-laden team isn’t the… https://t.co/b7p19VLQwz

— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) April 8, 2024

If Calipari indeed heads to Arkansas, and Kentucky ponies up 9-10 Million a year (Cal currently making 8.5), it will be hard for Dan Hurley to say no

A 4-5 million dollar pay raise is something most would understand pic.twitter.com/yjs9Ul1KOy

— Hoop Herald (@TheHoopHerald) April 8, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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Cal turned down a $100M offer to be Head Coach and President of Operations for the Cavs when they told him they were bringing back LeBron and getting the #1 Pick in 2014

10 Years Later he jumps at a $1M Annual Salary Paycut to go to … Arkansas

What does that say?

— Grant Peters (@Real_GP) April 8, 2024

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It's only a half a million dollar pay cut, also respect not jumping to the NBA.

IvanBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Cal turned down a $100M offer to be Head Coach and President of Operations for the Cavs when they told him they were bringing back LeBron and getting the #1 Pick in 2014

10 Years Later he jumps at a $1M Annual Salary Paycut to go to … Arkansas

What does that say?

— Grant Peters (@Real_GP) April 8, 2024

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It's only a half a million dollar pay cut, also respect not jumping to the NBA.

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And honestly, what can you possibly do with $8mm in Fayetteville anyway?

This is not a dig at Tang in any way

But this is one of those examples of how I just don't understand the coaching world sometimes (college football or basketball or NFL/NBA) where he only has 2 years head coaching experience and hasn't really proven anything but he gets mentioned for jobs the same as retread coaches who have a longer history with minimal results.. Just doesn't make sense to me.

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The XII is looking as stable as the SEC and B10. The payout isn't as high but it is pretty damn stable and in Tang's sport, top brand.

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Where do you get that the Big 12 was the top basketball conference? Got destroyed this year.

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By your logic the Big East is the best conference.

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That logic is how the SEC got cemented as the top football conference. They kept having an SEC school win the NC and ESPN/ media declared it the best conference until it pretty much became true.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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Porteroso said:

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PartyBear said:

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The XII is looking as stable as the SEC and B10. The payout isn't as high but it is pretty damn stable and in Tang's sport, top brand.

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Where do you get that the Big 12 was the top basketball conference? Got destroyed this year.

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By your logic the Big East is the best conference.

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You failed to grasp my logic. What I said was not a statement on anything other than the Big 12 being overrated. A lot more parity than people were saying.

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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PartyBear said:

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The XII is looking as stable as the SEC and B10. The payout isn't as high but it is pretty damn stable and in Tang's sport, top brand.

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Where do you get that the Big 12 was the top basketball conference? Got destroyed this year.

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By your logic the Big East is the best conference.

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That logic is how the SEC got cemented as the top football conference. They kept having an SEC school win the NC and ESPN/ media declared it the best conference until it pretty much became true.

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Not buying it. UCLA won 10 out of 11 Championships, no one in that timeframe ever argued that the PAC 8 was the premier basketball conference in the land. Bama Football used to dominate the SEC in the Bear Bryant days, but the Big 10 was considered a tougher conference with the competition between Ohio State, PSU, Michigan; it wasn't until recently, when Florida, Auburn, LSU and Georgia stepped up competitively that the SEC was acclaimed as the premier conference.
Generally, you rate a conference by the quality of basketball played by its members. Marquette, Creighton and of course UCONN are top level teams, but there was a drop off in the second tier of the conference that you did not see in the Big 12.

Penn State was not in the B10 until about 92. Penn St want in the B10during the Bear Bryant days.

PartyBear said:

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Penn State was not in the B10 until about 92. Penn St want in the B10during the Bear Bryant days.

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You are right! I had forgotten they were clamoring at the gate till 1990.

TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Cal turned down a $100M offer to be Head Coach and President of Operations for the Cavs when they told him they were bringing back LeBron and getting the #1 Pick in 2014

10 Years Later he jumps at a $1M Annual Salary Paycut to go to … Arkansas

What does that say?

— Grant Peters (@Real_GP) April 8, 2024

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It's only a half a million dollar pay cut, also respect not jumping to the NBA.

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And honestly, what can you possibly do with $8mm in Fayetteville anyway?

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Pretty affluent area of the region. It's not like it's Stillwater.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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IvanBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Cal turned down a $100M offer to be Head Coach and President of Operations for the Cavs when they told him they were bringing back LeBron and getting the #1 Pick in 2014

10 Years Later he jumps at a $1M Annual Salary Paycut to go to … Arkansas

What does that say?

— Grant Peters (@Real_GP) April 8, 2024

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It's only a half a million dollar pay cut, also respect not jumping to the NBA.

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And honestly, what can you possibly do with $8mm in Fayetteville anyway?

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Pretty affluent area of the region. It's not like it's Stillwater.

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Dude you've got the Tysons and Waltons sitting there with billions in cash to burn, its a nice area. It's got the best man developed Mountain biking courses in the country, there's a lot of money in them hills.

Also home values not that far off of DFW at this rate too....

cowboycwr said:

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This is not a dig at Tang in any way

But this is one of those examples of how I just don't understand the coaching world sometimes (college football or basketball or NFL/NBA) where he only has 2 years head coaching experience and hasn't really proven anything but he gets mentioned for jobs the same as retread coaches who have a longer history with minimal results.. Just doesn't make sense to me.

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they had more info at arky than k-state had when they hired coach tang. seems to me tang is a low risk hire compared to some random shining object from directional u or terra haute.

not gasoline?

He took his team to the Elite 8 his first year, a team he practically built from scratch. He earned coach of the year.

You have a valid point, but those are valid points too. Anyone offering him another job expects he will be able to do more great things.

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not gasoline?

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BCG is a pretty notorious boozehound, which is what I was alluding to. I hope he's on the wagon again, but it wasn't exactly encouraging that he took a leave of absence from Tarleton State for "health purposes" last season.

TWD 1974 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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Porteroso said:

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PartyBear said:

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The XII is looking as stable as the SEC and B10. The payout isn't as high but it is pretty damn stable and in Tang's sport, top brand.

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Where do you get that the Big 12 was the top basketball conference? Got destroyed this year.

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By your logic the Big East is the best conference.

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That logic is how the SEC got cemented as the top football conference. They kept having an SEC school win the NC and ESPN/ media declared it the best conference until it pretty much became true.

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Not buying it. UCLA won 10 out of 11 Championships, no one in that timeframe ever argued that the PAC 8 was the premier basketball conference in the land. Bama Football used to dominate the SEC in the Bear Bryant days, but the Big 10 was considered a tougher conference with the competition between Ohio State, PSU, Michigan; it wasn't until recently, when Florida, Auburn, LSU and Georgia stepped up competitively that the SEC was acclaimed as the premier conference.
Generally, you rate a conference by the quality of basketball played by its members. Marquette, Creighton and of course UCONN are top level teams, but there was a drop off in the second tier of the conference that you did not see in the Big 12.

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You are right that in basketball they haven't done this yet.

but in football they have. The SEC has been called the top conference even though the majority of their national championships were from Alabama and 3 other schools had a year here and there (until Georgia).

So yes it does not happen in basketball and did not happen in the past but in the last 20 years it is what has happened in football.

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not gasoline?

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BCG is a pretty notorious boozehound, which is what I was alluding to. I hope he's on the wagon again, but it wasn't exactly encouraging that he took a leave of absence from Tarleton State for "health purposes" last season.

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Gillespie has had serious health issues for years now. He almost died while coaching at Ranger College -- needed an emergency kidney transplant in 2018. I don't think there's any direct connection to his most recent leave and alcoholism. He's been battling heart and kidney issues for the better part of a decade now.

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Mitch Henessey said:

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not gasoline?

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BCG is a pretty notorious boozehound, which is what I was alluding to. I hope he's on the wagon again, but it wasn't exactly encouraging that he took a leave of absence from Tarleton State for "health purposes" last season.

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Gillespie has had serious health issues for years now. He almost died while coaching at Ranger College -- needed an emergency kidney transplant in 2018. I don't think there's any direct connection to his most recent leave and alcoholism. He's been battling heart and kidney issues for the better part of a decade now.

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He seems pretty young for the degree of health issues he has.

PartyBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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not gasoline?

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BCG is a pretty notorious boozehound, which is what I was alluding to. I hope he's on the wagon again, but it wasn't exactly encouraging that he took a leave of absence from Tarleton State for "health purposes" last season.

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Gillespie has had serious health issues for years now. He almost died while coaching at Ranger College -- needed an emergency kidney transplant in 2018. I don't think there's any direct connection to his most recent leave and alcoholism. He's been battling heart and kidney issues for the better part of a decade now.

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He seems pretty young for the degree of health issues he has.

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I think he's in his mid-60s.

By modern standards that's pretty young, at least in America. Still, there are plenty of younger people with health problems that have nothing to do with drugs.