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Gameday Thread: No. 13 Baylor Opens Baha Mar Championship against No. 22 St. John's

November 19, 2024
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No. 13 Baylor (3-1) will face No. 22 St. John's (4-0) in the quarterfinals of the Baha Mar Championship on Thursday, Nov. 21, at 6 p.m. CST. The game will be televised on CBS Sports Network.  

KenPom Prediction: Baylor 76, St John’s 75

Torvik Prediction: Baylor 74, St John’s 73

Evan Miyakawa: Baylor 77, St John’s 75

Haslametrics: Baylor 78, St John’s 71


Coaches

St John’s: Rick Pitino (72) 735-303 (24-13 at St John’s); 23 NCAAs; 13 Sweet 16s; 12 Elite 8s; 7 FFs; 2 National Championships

Baylor: Scott Drew (54); 468-254 overall (438-243 at Baylor); 12 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head: 1-0 Drew


St John’s Starters

  • Guard: Deivon Smith (SR) 6-0 175 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 6 asst; 44% FG; 31% 3pt; 62% FT
  • Guard: Kadary Richmond (SR) 6-6 205 lbs; 9 ppg; 7 reb; 6 asst; 49% FG; 33% 3pt; 25% FT
  • Forward: RJ Luis (JR) 6-7 215 lbs; 18 ppg; 8 reb; 3 asst; 49% FG; 25% 3pt; 75% FT
  • Forward: Aaron Scott (SR) 6-7 210 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 reb; 52% FG; 29% 3pt; 80% FT 
  • Forward: Zuby Eijofor (JR) 6-9 240 lbs; 9 ppg; 5 reb; 3 blks; 46% FG; 33% 3pt; 63% FT

St John’s Bench

  • Guard: Simeon Wilcher (SO) 6-4 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 59% FG; 30% 3pt; 88% FT
  • Forward: Brady Dunlap (SO) 6-7 190 lbs; 10 ppg; 3 reb; 67% FG; 57% 3pt; 100% FT
  • Forward:  Vince Iwuchukwu (JR) 7-1 250 lbs; 5 ppg; 4 reb; 50% FG; 100% FT

Baylor Starters

  • Guard: Jeremy Roach (SR) 6-2 180 lbs; 12 ppg; 5 asst; 44% FG; 38% 3pt; 75% FT
  • Guard: Jayden Nunn (SR) 6-4 190 lbs; 13 ppg; 3 reb; 2 st; 51% FG; 48% 3pt; 67% FT
  • Guard: VJ Edgecombe (FR) 6-5 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 8 reb; 4 asst; 2 st; 37% FG; 18% 3pt; 71% FT
  • Forward: Norchad Omier (SR) 6-7 245 lbs; 13 ppg; 10 reb; 61% FG; 20% 3pt; 67% FT
  • Forward: Josh Ojianwuna (JR) 6-10 255 lbs; 9 ppg; 5 reb; 2 st; 79% FG; 68% FT

Baylor Bench

  • Guard: Langston Love (JR) 6-5 215 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 47% FG; 48% 3p; 78% FT (2023-24 stats)
  • Forward: Jalen Celestine (SR) 6-7 215 lbs; 10 ppg; 3 reb; 42% FG; 38% 3pt; 100% FT
  • Guard: Rob Wright (FR) 6-1 180 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 asst; 47% FG; 38% 3pt; 90% FT
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Gameday Thread: No. 13 Baylor Opens Baha Mar Championship against No. 22 St. John's

19,623 Views | 288 Replies | Last: 4 days ago by boognish_bear
Johnny Bear
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Good Lord, our man to man D stinks against anybody with a pulse.
BusyTarpDuster2017
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What is it with our opponents always shooting 90 percent from three?
IowaBear
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It's gonna be a long season, another year of needing to shoot lights out to beat good teams. St Johns is a solid team but they aren't world beaters
Johnny Bear
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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

What is it with our opponents always shooting 90 percent from three?

A lot of it is constantly giving up wide-open looks from behind the arc
Quinton
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Big12Fan2024 said:

Quinton said:

Defense is a mess. The lazy close outs on 3s year after year (when even in the vicinity) is just coaching and effort. Hopefully it can be turned but trend isn't good
I had hoped we would bring in a defensive minded assistant and instead we brought in a guy who never had a D better than #127 and his last 5 teams ranged from #252 to #347.


The defensive coaching is just really really poor. It's just the reality. Hope springs eternal but it's just crazy at this point. Again hopefully it turns but this zone is terrible as is the man look.
IowaBear
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Let's just call it what it is. Drew sucks at coaching defense and or bringing in good defensive assistants. He's not above criticism like a few posters seem to think
Big12Fan2024
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Any time Wright comes off the court, we stagnate big time.
FFA0329
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34 points in less than 12 minutes………..
IowaBear
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Just another day at the office for the Bears
Quinton
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I barely watched the Gonzaga game but I've seen Gonzaga since. No way any good team loses to them by 38. Ridiculous
Big12Fan2024
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At some point we'll realize the refs are allowing it to be physical. Hopefully we will adjust. If not, this will be a 20+ point loss when the final buzzer sounds.
Johnny Bear
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We give up more threes with no defender being within 20 feet of the shooter
Quinton
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It's been said for over two years now. Get a real defensive specialist on staff to turn around the D. Wasting years with no chance if the defense can't even be competent. Arkansas wasn't well coached and couldn't shoot well.
IowaBear
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It's not going to happen… we build the rosters with the idea of out scoring everyone. Non con beat downs are the new norm. Hopefully we can mount a comeback but it's going to require SJ missing a ton of wide open 3's
Big12Fan2024
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We look like a bad on offense so far tonight. Everything one on one with no zip to the passes. Only player on the team who can dribble is Wright. 1 shot and that's it. Only big standing at the top of the key hoping to fire a 3. What on earth is going on? Surely we will adjust to the physical nature they are allowing this game to be played at.
Quinton
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It isn't just roster though. Self or Sampson would have this same group top 35 guaranteed. Sub 60 defensive rankings is pure coaching. You can coach any semi competent roster to top 50 at minimum, even with obvious roster deficiencies
BearFan33
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Getting some stops. We need to stop turning it over
IowaBear
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We don't run sets very often. Gonna be another 12 plus loss seasons. The talent will show out and win big games throughout the season. But we're going to stack a ton of losses until Drew gets serious about defense. That's not a dig either. This schedule is ridiculously tough.
Hotsauce
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We're gonna need about 10x more from Josh O the rest of the season. He's contributed nothing when on the floor tonight.
Big12Fan2024
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Wright 11 points, 4-8 FG, 3-4 from 3, 2 assist, 1 rebound, 1 steal 0 turnovers
Edgecombe 0 points, 0-3 FG, 0-1 from 3, 1 assist, 3 turnovers, 2 rebounds.
IowaBear
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Think will at least win the 2nd half. Wright is wayyyb ahead of VJ. Why not start Wright at the 1 and Roach the 2
Buforlife
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These players are playing for their on stats. No team discipline on shot selection and team D
Buforlife
Killing Floor
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Concerning. Hope this gets sorted before conference.
Let’s Go!
Quinton
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Where's the coach to get fiery? Ridiculous performance and concentration.
Big12Fan2024
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Finally some life!
IowaBear
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We're going to get mopped in Storrs
Bearsalwayswin
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no
Bearsalwayswin
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this is true
IowaBear
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Need VJ and Josh to come to life this half to have a shot tonight
Big12Fan2024
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We just have no physicality after Omier.
BearFan33
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Get some stops!
BearFan33
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Good to see Love out there
Big12Fan2024
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Omier is putting the team on his back and carrying it as far as he can. He's basically 1 guy battling 3 on the inside with no help from anyone else. That dude is a man!
Quinton
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What were these guys doing during camp? The first week of summer should have been strictly working defensive fundamentals and footwork. It's just so poor
Big12Fan2024
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Ball is finally zipping around the perimeter for us and guess what? An open three!
 
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