Gameday Thread: No. 25 Baylor Concludes Grand Canyon State Swing Trip against Arizona

Embarrassing

Bet any decent conference opponent 1st half to cover v BU on the road. KU, Hou, Tech, WVU.. I expect BU not to cover any of the first halves. Would make the season easier to watch.

I'm now worried we're going to stunt Wright's development by creating a ton of bad habits playing on this dumpster fire.

IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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Love is way too soft. I would not expect him to do much the real of the season. I've heard that the coaching staff is very frustrated with his lack of availability.

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Then why didn't they give him reasons to leave in the off season, it's obvious this is what he was going to be this year.

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The coaches thought that he would pan out and be different. I've heard that a lot of people are getting in his head and telling him to just sit. That if he plays and doesn't produce, it will hurt his draft status. Love thinks that he is better than he truly is.

How did Roach start for Duke? He does nothing to contribute.

bear2be2 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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ImABearToo said:

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Chipping away slowly.

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Are we though?

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To be fair we've missed 3 or 4 layups and they chucked in a 40 footer

They the better team gut this could easily be a 2 possession game even with all the trash we putting out there

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You and I are watching different games. We're getting abused.

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Ummm dude. It was a 12 point game when I said that. Just math bro

We've been down 20+ points at various stages of the game to Gonzaga, Tennessee, St. Johns, Iowa St and Arizona.

I can't wait to see the usual homers spin this one. The roster construction needs completely overhauled. I don't care if it means next year is a full rebuilding year.

davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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Love is way too soft. I would not expect him to do much the real of the season. I've heard that the coaching staff is very frustrated with his lack of availability.

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Then why didn't they give him reasons to leave in the off season, it's obvious this is what he was going to be this year.

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The coaches thought that he pan out and be different. I've heard that a lot of people are getting in his head and telling him to just sit. That if he plays and doesn't produce, it will hurt his draft status. Love thinks that he is better than he truly is.

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lol draft status. The most concerning part of what you're hearing is the staff seems more delusional about this roster than the average Homer does. That's not good they have such a bad pulse on the team…

IowaBear said:

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We just aren't very good. I'll get flamed per usual by the homers. But this team isn't very good. They've proved that this year. We haven't beaten a single good team yet and the seasons halfway over. Tonight was gravy anyways. But it would have been nice to be competitive. Hopefully we at least make a game of it

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Lol yep. Said it clearly last game. Then I throw a little bit of a compliment at the team and one of the homers is like nah we suck which wasn't my point as I've already made it clear my opinion is this group of available personnel ain't no good.

MashedPotatoes said:

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How did Roach start for Duke? He does nothing to contribute.

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In fairness the dukies I know were all glad to see him go

Big12Fan2024 said:

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We've been down 20+ points at various stages of the game to Gonzaga, Tennessee, St. Johns, Iowa St and Arizona.

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But this is a good team though

IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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Love is way too soft. I would not expect him to do much the real of the season. I've heard that the coaching staff is very frustrated with his lack of availability.

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Then why didn't they give him reasons to leave in the off season, it's obvious this is what he was going to be this year.

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The coaches thought that he pan out and be different. I've heard that a lot of people are getting in his head and telling him to just sit. That if he plays and doesn't produce, it will hurt his draft status. Love thinks that he is better than he truly is.

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lol draft status. The most concerning part of what you're hearing is the staff seems more delusional about this roster than the average Homer does. That's not good they have such a bad pulse on the team…

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The staff doesn't think that. Others (parents, friends, himself, etc). That's why the staff is frustrated. Drew is a good guy. He isn't going to publicly criticize him.

Roach was pegged by some on here as a top 5-10 portal guy. Never understood that take. He was solid at Duke, but he benefitted heavily from playing with pros.

Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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ImABearToo said:

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Chipping away slowly.

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Are we though?

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To be fair we've missed 3 or 4 layups and they chucked in a 40 footer

They the better team gut this could easily be a 2 possession game even with all the trash we putting out there

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You and I are watching different games. We're getting abused.

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Ummm dude. It was a 12 point game when I said that. Just math bro

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We've been dominated from start to finish. The score is just a product of that.

This score is exactly what it should be with the way those two teams played in the first half.

bear2be2 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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ImABearToo said:

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Chipping away slowly.

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Are we though?

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To be fair we've missed 3 or 4 layups and they chucked in a 40 footer

They the better team gut this could easily be a 2 possession game even with all the trash we putting out there

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You and I are watching different games. We're getting abused.

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Ummm dude. It was a 12 point game when I said that. Just math bro

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We've been dominated from start to finish. The score is just a product of that.

This score is exactly what it should be with the way those two teams played in the first half.

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Lmao. You funny man. Appreciate the laugh. That's good stuff

Well will always have the culture of Joy despite all the beatdowns. Can hang our hat on that

IowaBear said:

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Well will always have the culture of Joy despite all the beatdowns. Can hang our hat on that

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Person over player?

This year we dont just lose games....we get throttled

We have an 11-to-23 assist-to-turnover ratio the past two games. That is putrid.

This may be the worst group of guards Scott Drew has had since Year 2.

If our guards are going to be this bad, we need to overhaul everything and play through Norchad Omier. He should be getting a post touch every possession. Play inside out. These guards aren't good enough to create good offense.

I miss the hell out of RayJ Dennis. Anyone who criticized him last year should feel bad about himself. He was the only thing that kept last year's team from looking like this one.

This is not a good team.

davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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Love is way too soft. I would not expect him to do much the real of the season. I've heard that the coaching staff is very frustrated with his lack of availability.

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Then why didn't they give him reasons to leave in the off season, it's obvious this is what he was going to be this year.

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The coaches thought that he pan out and be different. I've heard that a lot of people are getting in his head and telling him to just sit. That if he plays and doesn't produce, it will hurt his draft status. Love thinks that he is better than he truly is.

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lol draft status. The most concerning part of what you're hearing is the staff seems more delusional about this roster than the average Homer does. That's not good they have such a bad pulse on the team…

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The staff doesn't think that. Others (parents, friends, himself, etc). That's why the staff is frustrated. Drew is a good guy. He isn't going to publicly criticize him.

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No I mean the fact they thought he'd radically change his stripes defensively, and recovery effort wise. He's been this way since he joined the team. He's a fun offensive player who's an absolute China doll that cannot be relied on to play a full season or even really half a season.

He should have been moved on from for injury reasons and politely told to go somewhere else where they can afford to lose a starting quality player for months at a time.

Goes back to the coaches clearly had no pulse whatsoever even less than the causal fan that the roster they were putting together made zero sense.

Will never know the full truth. But I would be curious what Langston actual injury supposedly is right now. Dudes been out for 2 weeks with ankle soreness… I'm arguably his biggest fan. But he and BU need to mutually part at seasons end

In summary…Omier and Wright are the only ones who can create their own shots. VJ is way overrated. Wright has potential. We don't have shooters this year. And, our defense is porous. We need length and we don't have it. Tonight we are being exposed by a team that shares the ball and plays stifling D.

Get on the flight back to Waco.

Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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ImABearToo said:

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Chipping away slowly.

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Are we though?

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To be fair we've missed 3 or 4 layups and they chucked in a 40 footer

They the better team gut this could easily be a 2 possession game even with all the trash we putting out there

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You and I are watching different games. We're getting abused.

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Ummm dude. It was a 12 point game when I said that. Just math bro

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We've been dominated from start to finish. The score is just a product of that.

This score is exactly what it should be with the way those two teams played in the first half.

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Lmao. You funny man. Appreciate the laugh. That's good stuff

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Are you being serious right now? We're shooting 25.9 percent from the field, 11.1 percent from 3 and have a 2-to-7 assist-to-turnover ratio while allowing Arizona to shoot 53.6 percent from the field.

We are getting absolutely murdered. There is no silver lining here. There are no what ifs. This is domination.

Yes but the Duke guys I know (and these are like very connected booster types), all complained Roach thought way too highly of himself, was desperate to be "the man" and that it was a problem, because he's clearly not.

Maybe not an issue with a better coach like K but he was viewed as a limiting factor the last year.

IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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Love is way too soft. I would not expect him to do much the real of the season. I've heard that the coaching staff is very frustrated with his lack of availability.

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Then why didn't they give him reasons to leave in the off season, it's obvious this is what he was going to be this year.

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The coaches thought that he pan out and be different. I've heard that a lot of people are getting in his head and telling him to just sit. That if he plays and doesn't produce, it will hurt his draft status. Love thinks that he is better than he truly is.

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lol draft status. The most concerning part of what you're hearing is the staff seems more delusional about this roster than the average Homer does. That's not good they have such a bad pulse on the team…

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The staff doesn't think that. Others (parents, friends, himself, etc). That's why the staff is frustrated. Drew is a good guy. He isn't going to publicly criticize him.

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No I mean the fact they thought he'd radically change his stripes defensively, and recovery effort wise. He's been this way since he joined the team. He's a fun offensive player who's an absolute China doll that cannot be relied on to play a full season or even really half a season.

He should have been moved on from for injury reasons and politely told to go somewhere else where they can afford to lose a starting quality player for months at a time.

Goes back to the coaches clearly had no pulse whatsoever even less than the causal fan that the roster they were putting together made zero sense.

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I agree. Just speculating, but Drew lost some good coaches the last couple of years, and almost all of their contributing players from last season. You can bookmark this, but I would bet that Love doesn't play 5 more games this season. I've heard that he practices on a weekly basis without any signs of injury.

Oh I love him too, but the injury at the end of the last year said a lot about he's not durable enough to play.

I was hoping he'd be a starter this year I like him so much, he's absolutely a better player than Nunn except he doesn't ever play. It's so disappointing, but extremely predictable.

If that's true than you kick him off the team. That's a cancer not a teammate.
I can't see that being true but you never know

davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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IvanBear said:

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davesburgerbarn said:

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Love is way too soft. I would not expect him to do much the real of the season. I've heard that the coaching staff is very frustrated with his lack of availability.

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Then why didn't they give him reasons to leave in the off season, it's obvious this is what he was going to be this year.

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The coaches thought that he pan out and be different. I've heard that a lot of people are getting in his head and telling him to just sit. That if he plays and doesn't produce, it will hurt his draft status. Love thinks that he is better than he truly is.

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lol draft status. The most concerning part of what you're hearing is the staff seems more delusional about this roster than the average Homer does. That's not good they have such a bad pulse on the team…

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The staff doesn't think that. Others (parents, friends, himself, etc). That's why the staff is frustrated. Drew is a good guy. He isn't going to publicly criticize him.

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No I mean the fact they thought he'd radically change his stripes defensively, and recovery effort wise. He's been this way since he joined the team. He's a fun offensive player who's an absolute China doll that cannot be relied on to play a full season or even really half a season.

He should have been moved on from for injury reasons and politely told to go somewhere else where they can afford to lose a starting quality player for months at a time.

Goes back to the coaches clearly had no pulse whatsoever even less than the causal fan that the roster they were putting together made zero sense.

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I agree. Just speculating, but Drew lost some good coaches the last couple of years, and almost all of their contributing players from last season. You can bookmark this, but I would bet that Love doesn't play 5 more games this season. I've heard that he practices on a weekly basis without any signs of injury.

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If that's the case then Drew is doing everyone a disservice not suspending him very publicly.

IowaBear said:

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I can't wait to see the usual homers spin this one. The roster construction needs completely overhauled. I don't care if it means next year is a full rebuilding year.

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Couldn't agree more. I'm tired of this *****

Get back to building. What we're doing clearly isn't working.

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There's a reason Houston, KU, ISU are the cream of the crop in the B12.. roster continuation. Recruiting/developing multiple year contributors. Zero idea why we got away from that.

I was pretty sick when we played Gonzaga so that game is very hazy in my memory but this seems way worse

We're getting absolutely embarrassed by a five-loss team. This is not an acceptable performance.