the big JEW is on the case........OsoCoreyell said:
If he had signed a contract with Baylor for $1.5 (as some on here have said), he should be liable for damages, and BYU should be sued for tortious interference. Calling John Eddie.
My understanding is that Wright already signed for the next year. Baylor would have been foolish not to do that before signing anyone else, b/c he was the centerpiece of the entire plan. If true, I would think there's a potentially viable tortious interference claim with significant potential damages. I'm wondering if the legal battle is why the BYU deal hasn't been announced. And if I were advising Baylor I would say pursue this 100%. BYU should absolutely pay every penny for the harm this caused to the program and they can certainly cover it. WE can use that money to buy replacements, but b/c of how fast the transfer portal moves there's absolutely no way to restore the status quo ante because the best players are almost all already off the board. I wouldn't assume this is a done deal until announced.TWD 1974 said:If there is a legitimate contract that extended beyond the freshman season, then there could be a case for tortious interference against BYU. However, as scholarships are typically renewable year to year, it might be argued that any NIL agreement is subject to the scholarship, making the multiyear NIL unenforceable.IowaBear said:
We can blame him because he signed a 1.5 million contract to stay with BU. He had this staff believing/relying on him staying true to his word. They literally didn't bring in players because they were banking on Rob staying true to his word. Had Rob been honest from the get go that he was bolting the moment someone offers more than it's a different story. There's literally nothing to indicate that was the case. This staff was by all accounts completely blindsided
The new proposed NCAA settlement does away with scholarships entirely, which might make the contracts with players somewhat more enforceable. Whatever happens in the future, the problem Baylor is facing is not really how we manage the NIL (though there is room for improvement) nor the criticisms of recruitment, player development, etc... The Big 12 and the other power conferences are essentially now pro leagues, without the legal and competitive restraints on the teams that can keep some semblance of sanity. If the Dallas Cowboys, the Lakers, and the Yankees or Dodgers (who are already there) had the ability to spend 3 times as much as other teams for players, and then reach into any team and get a player they wanted, with no impunity, what do you think would be the outcome? They would only be successful about 90% of the time in getting the top player they wanted.
My venting on the tortious interference was my "Ken Starr Sabre Rattling" at the whole situation. Lawyers can jump in here, but I am sure there are all manner of issues that would preclude a winnable case here. Damages to Baylor would be loss of income, which would take a while to prove. Baylor can go 5-26 next year and will get roughly the same level of revenue from mbb as they normally do. The NIL agreement is as I understand it not between Baylor and the player but the player and the NIL collective (not Baylor's money, so not Baylor's loss).Ewalker80 said:My understanding is that Wright already signed for the next year. Baylor would have been foolish not to do that before signing anyone else, b/c he was the centerpiece of the entire plan. If true, I would think there's a potentially viable tortious interference claim with significant potential damages. I'm wondering if the legal battle is why the BYU deal hasn't been announced. And if I were advising Baylor I would say pursue this 100%. BYU should absolutely pay every penny for the harm this caused to the program and they can certainly cover it. WE can use that money to buy replacements, but b/c of how fast the transfer portal moves there's absolutely no way to restore the status quo ante because the best players are almost all already off the board. I wouldn't assume this is a done deal until announced.TWD 1974 said:If there is a legitimate contract that extended beyond the freshman season, then there could be a case for tortious interference against BYU. However, as scholarships are typically renewable year to year, it might be argued that any NIL agreement is subject to the scholarship, making the multiyear NIL unenforceable.IowaBear said:
We can blame him because he signed a 1.5 million contract to stay with BU. He had this staff believing/relying on him staying true to his word. They literally didn't bring in players because they were banking on Rob staying true to his word. Had Rob been honest from the get go that he was bolting the moment someone offers more than it's a different story. There's literally nothing to indicate that was the case. This staff was by all accounts completely blindsided
The new proposed NCAA settlement does away with scholarships entirely, which might make the contracts with players somewhat more enforceable. Whatever happens in the future, the problem Baylor is facing is not really how we manage the NIL (though there is room for improvement) nor the criticisms of recruitment, player development, etc... The Big 12 and the other power conferences are essentially now pro leagues, without the legal and competitive restraints on the teams that can keep some semblance of sanity. If the Dallas Cowboys, the Lakers, and the Yankees or Dodgers (who are already there) had the ability to spend 3 times as much as other teams for players, and then reach into any team and get a player they wanted, with no impunity, what do you think would be the outcome? They would only be successful about 90% of the time in getting the top player they wanted.
My only laments with Omier: 1. If he could have gotten to us with another year of eligibility; and 2. If he could have woken up one morning 6-10. Otherwise, he gave us what he had. Thanks for being a Bear, Norchad!marigold23 said:
Omier was the ONLY source of elite consistency (played every game). Not only that, but he exuded the Baylor culture. Deserves all the smoke
TWD 1974 said:My venting on the tortious interference was my "Ken Starr Sabre Rattling" at the whole situation. Lawyers can jump in here, but I am sure there are all manner of issues that would preclude a winnable case here. Damages to Baylor would be loss of income, which would take a while to prove. Baylor can go 5-26 next year and will get roughly the same level of revenue from mbb as they normally do. The NIL agreement is as I understand it not between Baylor and the player but the player and the NIL collective (not Baylor's money, so not Baylor's loss).Ewalker80 said:My understanding is that Wright already signed for the next year. Baylor would have been foolish not to do that before signing anyone else, b/c he was the centerpiece of the entire plan. If true, I would think there's a potentially viable tortious interference claim with significant potential damages. I'm wondering if the legal battle is why the BYU deal hasn't been announced. And if I were advising Baylor I would say pursue this 100%. BYU should absolutely pay every penny for the harm this caused to the program and they can certainly cover it. WE can use that money to buy replacements, but b/c of how fast the transfer portal moves there's absolutely no way to restore the status quo ante because the best players are almost all already off the board. I wouldn't assume this is a done deal until announced.TWD 1974 said:If there is a legitimate contract that extended beyond the freshman season, then there could be a case for tortious interference against BYU. However, as scholarships are typically renewable year to year, it might be argued that any NIL agreement is subject to the scholarship, making the multiyear NIL unenforceable.IowaBear said:
We can blame him because he signed a 1.5 million contract to stay with BU. He had this staff believing/relying on him staying true to his word. They literally didn't bring in players because they were banking on Rob staying true to his word. Had Rob been honest from the get go that he was bolting the moment someone offers more than it's a different story. There's literally nothing to indicate that was the case. This staff was by all accounts completely blindsided
The new proposed NCAA settlement does away with scholarships entirely, which might make the contracts with players somewhat more enforceable. Whatever happens in the future, the problem Baylor is facing is not really how we manage the NIL (though there is room for improvement) nor the criticisms of recruitment, player development, etc... The Big 12 and the other power conferences are essentially now pro leagues, without the legal and competitive restraints on the teams that can keep some semblance of sanity. If the Dallas Cowboys, the Lakers, and the Yankees or Dodgers (who are already there) had the ability to spend 3 times as much as other teams for players, and then reach into any team and get a player they wanted, with no impunity, what do you think would be the outcome? They would only be successful about 90% of the time in getting the top player they wanted.
Now that college sports have entered the unholy environs of professionalism, they need to employ rules that NBA, MLB, NFL have long had to prohibit teams from doing precisely what BYU has done in this case. Without changes to that effect, you are going to see breach of contract cases between players and donors, and tortious interference cases between schools, conferences, et. al.
Baylor transfer Rob Wright will visit BYU this weekend, source told @TheFieldOf68.
— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) April 10, 2025
Wright recently signed a contract for more than $1 million to remain at Baylor, source told @TheFieldOf68.
There is nothing holding players to these contracts. He re-opened his recruitment and… https://t.co/gFNYzz3fV6
graysongrundhoefer said:NoOso del lago said:
Did Rob make off with our 1.5M? Yes or no?
This particular go round is a timing issue to be able to hit thr lottery..They're working faster to close the holes of insanity. and build reasonable guard rails; Just won't go back in the tube as fast as it gushed out.Bobby20 said:
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
This will continue to happen over and over again to Baylor. Sadly, get used to it.
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?
I am still wondering this. Did Drew ask them all to go or did each player leaving lead to everyone bolting?cowboycwr said:
Do we have a single returning player for next year?
Why have we lost so many? I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?
I thought that was really strange as well if accurate.True Grit said:
So... he hasn't even visited the campus except for our game there this past season?
Sources: Tennessee QB Nico Iamaleava did not attend Tennessee spring practice today. He’s been in conversations with Tennessee about a new contract. The no-show of practice came as a surprise. pic.twitter.com/VXsXTPDZpu
— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) April 11, 2025
boognish_bear said:I thought that was really strange as well if accurate.True Grit said:
So... he hasn't even visited the campus except for our game there this past season?
Just feels like a purely transactional arrangement all based on money. Not that I wouldn't probably do the same thing if given that offer.
To me it's about how we're allocating the budget not what the budget is. Much more than 25% of the budget on one guy and I'm concerned unless he's a Cooper Flagg level talent.boognish_bear said:
How much are you guys comfortable with Baylor paying a single player for NIL?
I obviously want us to have the best players possible... but I'm also not crazy about jumping into this ridiculous arms race going on right now.
It's not my money… so my opinion doesn't really matter. But I'm not sure I want to see us getting up to 4,000,000+ for a single player.
Exactly. We're not going out and shopping for specific items. We've got an entire grocery list to pick up and a completely empty cupboard at home.IowaBear said:
Like you said, not my money but I wouldn't spend multiple millions on 1 player. Granted it would depend on the total budget.
The issue Baylor has right now imo is that they need so many players. They really can't afford to overpay anyone. That could hinder the ability to fill out the roster with serviceable guys
There are at least 8 teams that will have a $10,000,000+ roster in college basketball next season, per @247Sports sources.
— Travis Branham (@TravisBranham_) April 11, 2025
I polled 25-plus high-major coaches and this is what I came up with as far as salary numbers for this season.
— Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanHoops) April 11, 2025
Obviously, there will be some outliers but this is a pretty good feel for what guys are getting now.
PROJECTED ELITE GUYS (Top 10-15): $2.5 to 4 million
PROJECTED…
TWD 1974 said:My only laments with Omier: 1. If he could have gotten to us with another year of eligibility; and 2. If he could have woken up one morning 6-10. Otherwise, he gave us what he had. Thanks for being a Bear, Norchad!marigold23 said:
Omier was the ONLY source of elite consistency (played every game). Not only that, but he exuded the Baylor culture. Deserves all the smoke
EvilTroyAndAbed said:cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?
There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.
Frankly if you weren't playing last year and your name wasn't Asemota you were hardly making anything (at least from what I've heard). So the distribution was not very level even though we were one of the top spenders.cowboycwr said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?
There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.
And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.
IvanBear said:Frankly if you weren't playing last year and your name wasn't Asemota you were hardly making anything (at least from what I've heard). So the distribution was not very level even though we were one of the top spenders.cowboycwr said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?
There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.
And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.
I think the larger problem is last year Drew really had no vision for what the team should look like, we were just chasing all the hot names in the portal, and banking on development of Nunn and Roach into something they weren't. Hoping that's less the case this year (still okay to chase hot names but filling a full roster at all positions needs to be first concern).Jorkel said:IvanBear said:Frankly if you weren't playing last year and your name wasn't Asemota you were hardly making anything (at least from what I've heard). So the distribution was not very level even though we were one of the top spenders.cowboycwr said:EvilTroyAndAbed said:cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?
There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.
And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.
I feel like without Dogs on the coaching staff…Drew is just the fun uncle.
"has potential" ?historian said:
As I see it, NIL has potential to damage the team chemistry & cohesiveness. How would the rest of the team feel about one guy getting $3-4 million while the others got less than $1 million. They might understand if he's the next Cooper Flagg everyone expects to be the best in the country but at about someone like Wright? Is anyone predicting him to be a lottery pick next year?
Does this make any sense?
