2025-26 Postmortem & Looking Ahead

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joenatty
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How is penciling him in as our 6th man grossly underestimating him?

Calling him one of the best athletes in the b12 this year is definitely a stretch, with all due respect to him. He was a good player but he didn't even make b12 honorable mentions in any category
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joenatty said:

How is penciling him in as our 6th man grossly underestimating him?

Calling him one of the best athletes in the b12 this year is definitely a stretch, with all due respect to him. He was a good player but he didn't even make b12 honorable mentions in any category

He's an explosive athlete. Elite ability to penetrate, explosive vertical. Down the stretch he was our second best player after Carr. I trust my eyes over big 12 awards. He is still raw in a few areas (defensive awareness and turnovers) but he worked himself not only into a starting-caliber player but a potential all-conference type of player. I'm excited to see what he does with another full offseason of work.
joenatty
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joenatty said:

- Obviously struck out on Eian Elmer after having him on campus
- Evan Chatman (Big, UAB) visited yesterday, no commit, we'll see how it plays out. Syracuse, Tulsa, Seton Hall are other teams pushing for him
- Isaac Celiscar (Wing, Yale) is on campus now, Kentucky is trying to make a push so ideally we can land a commit before he leaves Waco
- Chol Machot (Center, Charleston) should be visiting on Thursday

Other notable names:
- Matt Able (Wing, NC State) looks like hes going to UNC
- Sebastian Williams-Adams (Forward, Auburn) entered the portal, Baylor offered him as a recruit last year
- Baylor contacted Ring Nyeri (Forward, Northern Colorado)

Celiscar visit was a success! hopefully the same can be said for Machot's tomorrow
bear2be2
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joenatty said:

joenatty said:

- Obviously struck out on Eian Elmer after having him on campus
- Evan Chatman (Big, UAB) visited yesterday, no commit, we'll see how it plays out. Syracuse, Tulsa, Seton Hall are other teams pushing for him
- Isaac Celiscar (Wing, Yale) is on campus now, Kentucky is trying to make a push so ideally we can land a commit before he leaves Waco
- Chol Machot (Center, Charleston) should be visiting on Thursday

Other notable names:
- Matt Able (Wing, NC State) looks like hes going to UNC
- Sebastian Williams-Adams (Forward, Auburn) entered the portal, Baylor offered him as a recruit last year
- Baylor contacted Ring Nyeri (Forward, Northern Colorado)

Celiscar visit was a success! hopefully the same can be said for Machot's tomorrow
I like the Celiscar add on paper. He looks line the type of skilled stat-stuffing wing/small forward we've had a lot of success with in the past.

Roach and Rataj have me hesitant to buy in to any transfer sight unseen, but this looks like a pretty good pickup for now.
joenatty
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Crawfoso1973 said:

joenatty said:

How is penciling him in as our 6th man grossly underestimating him?

Calling him one of the best athletes in the b12 this year is definitely a stretch, with all due respect to him. He was a good player but he didn't even make b12 honorable mentions in any category

He's an explosive athlete. Elite ability to penetrate, explosive vertical. Down the stretch he was our second best player after Carr. I trust my eyes over big 12 awards. He is still raw in a few areas (defensive awareness and turnovers) but he worked himself not only into a starting-caliber player but a potential all-conference type of player. I'm excited to see what he does with another full offseason of work.

We agree on pretty much everything here, I'm not sure if I see him being an all-conference player but his jump from fresh -> soph was a lot bigger than I expected and I'd love to be surprised again

I didn't have him as the 6th man because I thought he wasn't good enough to start, I just think he's better served as a spark plug off the bench with to stagger with Mingo for PG minutes
bear2be2
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joenatty said:

Crawfoso1973 said:

joenatty said:

How is penciling him in as our 6th man grossly underestimating him?

Calling him one of the best athletes in the b12 this year is definitely a stretch, with all due respect to him. He was a good player but he didn't even make b12 honorable mentions in any category

He's an explosive athlete. Elite ability to penetrate, explosive vertical. Down the stretch he was our second best player after Carr. I trust my eyes over big 12 awards. He is still raw in a few areas (defensive awareness and turnovers) but he worked himself not only into a starting-caliber player but a potential all-conference type of player. I'm excited to see what he does with another full offseason of work.

We agree on pretty much everything here, I'm not sure if I see him being an all-conference player but his jump from fresh -> soph was a lot bigger than I expected and I'd love to be surprised again

I didn't have him as the 6th man because I thought he wasn't good enough to start, I just think he's better served as a spark plug off the bench with to stagger with Mingo for PG minutes
I like the idea of having two creators on the court at the same time for large chunks of the game. I want point guards initiating our offense more. I'm tired of watching wings and forwards who shouldn't have the ball in their hands as much they do play hero ball.

Give me more drive and dish from penetrating guards.
Crawfoso1973
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I do agree staggering his minutes with Mingo would be ideal if we can get another guard of their caliber or better.
joenatty
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joenatty said:

joenatty said:

- Obviously struck out on Eian Elmer after having him on campus
- Evan Chatman (Big, UAB) visited yesterday, no commit, we'll see how it plays out. Syracuse, Tulsa, Seton Hall are other teams pushing for him
- Isaac Celiscar (Wing, Yale) is on campus now, Kentucky is trying to make a push so ideally we can land a commit before he leaves Waco
- Chol Machot (Center, Charleston) should be visiting on Thursday

Other notable names:
- Matt Able (Wing, NC State) looks like hes going to UNC
- Sebastian Williams-Adams (Forward, Auburn) entered the portal, Baylor offered him as a recruit last year
- Baylor contacted Ring Nyeri (Forward, Northern Colorado)

Celiscar visit was a success! hopefully the same can be said for Machot's tomorrow

Looks like Chatman's was a success as well. Assume he's going to compete with Soyoye for backup big minutes, which probably means we're out on Machot
bear2be2
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Crawfoso1973 said:

I do agree staggering his minutes with Mingo would be ideal if we can get another guard of their caliber or better.

I like the idea of having one or the other on the court at all times and playing 10-15 minutes every game in a small lineup with them on the floor together.

It's been a while since we had two true point guards. It will be fun to have a penetrating/creating guard on the floor at all times and have a chance to put two on the floor together for stretches.
bear2be2
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joenatty said:

joenatty said:

joenatty said:

- Obviously struck out on Eian Elmer after having him on campus
- Evan Chatman (Big, UAB) visited yesterday, no commit, we'll see how it plays out. Syracuse, Tulsa, Seton Hall are other teams pushing for him
- Isaac Celiscar (Wing, Yale) is on campus now, Kentucky is trying to make a push so ideally we can land a commit before he leaves Waco
- Chol Machot (Center, Charleston) should be visiting on Thursday

Other notable names:
- Matt Able (Wing, NC State) looks like hes going to UNC
- Sebastian Williams-Adams (Forward, Auburn) entered the portal, Baylor offered him as a recruit last year
- Baylor contacted Ring Nyeri (Forward, Northern Colorado)

Celiscar visit was a success! hopefully the same can be said for Machot's tomorrow

Looks like Chatman's was a success as well. Assume he's going to compete with Soyoye for backup big minutes, which probably means we're out on Machot

Chatman looks more to me like a true four who you can play with Bodo-Bodo or Soyoye in a big lineup.

He's not a high-volume offensive player, but he would appear to be a relatively skilled/competent one.
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I like the role players and general retention. Other than Mingo though, any high level guys left to target? Really need another high level scorer to finish out the roster.

I'm assuming they aren't getting into a bidding war for Tounde if he doesn't stay in the draft.
joenatty
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Chatman is an elite rebounder and a respectable defender and interior scorer, but he hasn't shown much as a passer or a shooter. Don't think it's impossible he sees minutes at the 4 but running a lineup with Mingo/Chatman/Bodo Bodo would have some pretty serious shooting concerns (barring a big shooting jump from them)

He'll play though, he and Bodo Bodo in the frontcourt should dominate the glass which will be very fun
joenatty
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Still a lot of good names out there. Staff filled out the foundation of the roster and now its time to go find another big fish, preferably one who compliments Kayden who I think will be very very good

I have heard some whispers about trying to put together a package to return Cam Carr but imho that's a pipe dream
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I would think we are set at 3-5

3 - celiscar, Williams
4 - Chatman, Perez
5- Bodo Bodo, Soyo Soyo (sorry more fun version)

I think we need one more rotational guard to add to Mingo, Williams, Decker. Imagine he will be a developmental/high-upside type like Williams was last year. Also I presume we are trying to land Dylan Mingo but not counting on him to contribute this year --- we'll see. Of course if he comes in and can actually contribute you are looking at one heck of a backcourt.

I don't think you count on anything from Iguodala

In general this looks like a much more balanced team that can give you a top-30 type defense.

Of course every team since 2021 has looked great (except 2025 which looked merely good not great b/c of the BYU tortious interference) on paper until the injury bug strikes. This got me thinking about what I would think every team would have looked like with zero injuries, so I started a thread on this. This is the main fallacy in thinking through every college sports pre-season prognosis in my view, particularly because depth tends to impact Baylor more because we don't spend as much on players as the top spending schools.
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joenatty said:

Still a lot of good names out there. Staff filled out the foundation of the roster and now its time to go find another big fish, preferably one who compliments Kayden who I think will be very very good

I have heard some whispers about trying to put together a package to return Cam Carr but imho that's a pipe dream

We need a true starting-caliber shooting guard.

Add that and another depth piece or two, and I think we'll have a competitive Big 12 rotation.

Point guard -- Kayden Mingo, Isaac Williams
Shooting guard -- Portal addition, Brett Decker
Wing/Small forward -- Isaac Celiscar, Elijah Williams, Andre Iguodala
Power forward -- Evan Chatman, Maikcol Perez
Post -- Juslin Bodo-Bodo, Mayo Soyoye
bear2be2
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Does anyone know if JJ White is going to try to pursue a medical redshirt and if he does if he plans to return? He wouldn't be a terrible depth piece to have back, even as just a deep bench guy with experience.

This team is going to be really young next year. It wouldn't hurt to have a fifth-year senior for chemistry/vibes purposes.
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bear2be2 said:

Does anyone know if JJ White is going to try to pursue a medical redshirt and if he does if he plans to return? He wouldn't be a terrible depth piece to have back, even as just a deep bench guy with experience.

This team is going to be really young next year. It wouldn't hurt to have a fifth-year senior for chemistry/vibes purposes.

I think we can infer from the fact that he wasn't on the list of 7 returning players that he is not returning to Baylor.
joenatty
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Still feel like the staff needs to address a starting caliber guard/wing and a starting caliber 4. Just don't think we can survive the lack of shooting if you start Chatman

PG: Kayden Mingo
G:
G/W: Isaac Celiscar
W/F:
C: Juslin Bodo Bodo

6th: Isaac Williams IV
7th: Evan Chatman
8th: Elijah Williams
9th: Brett Decker Jr.
10th: Maikcol Perez
11th: Mayo Soyoye
12th: Andre Iguodala II

Great structure of a 12-man rotation, a lot of fun skillsets, but we are just in dire need of reliable shooting
bear2be2
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Ewalker80 said:

bear2be2 said:

Does anyone know if JJ White is going to try to pursue a medical redshirt and if he does if he plans to return? He wouldn't be a terrible depth piece to have back, even as just a deep bench guy with experience.

This team is going to be really young next year. It wouldn't hurt to have a fifth-year senior for chemistry/vibes purposes.

I think we can infer from the fact that he wasn't on the list of 7 returning players that he is not returning to Baylor.

It could be that he's waiting for a redshirt waiver, without which he has no eligibility remaining.

But if he was planning on leaving, he'd still have to enter the portal before the deadline, no?
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joenatty said:

Still feel like the staff needs to address a starting caliber guard/wing and a starting caliber 4. Just don't think we can survive the lack of shooting if you start Chatman

PG: Kayden Mingo
G:
G/W: Isaac Celiscar
W/F:
C: Juslin Bodo Bodo

6th: Isaac Williams IV
7th: Evan Chatman
8th: Elijah Williams
9th: Brett Decker Jr.
10th: Maikcol Perez
11th: Mayo Soyoye
12th: Andre Iguodala II

Great structure of a 12-man rotation, a lot of fun skillsets, but we are just in dire need of reliable shooting

I think there's a good chance Perez is part of the top eight. He was projected to get rotation minutes this past season before his injury.

If he recovers physically from his injury without complications, I think he'll either be the starter at the four or one of the first three off the bench.
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joenatty said:

Still feel like the staff needs to address a starting caliber guard/wing and a starting caliber 4. Just don't think we can survive the lack of shooting if you start Chatman

PG: Kayden Mingo
G:
G/W: Isaac Celiscar
W/F:
C: Juslin Bodo Bodo

6th: Isaac Williams IV
7th: Evan Chatman
8th: Elijah Williams
9th: Brett Decker Jr.
10th: Maikcol Perez
11th: Mayo Soyoye
12th: Andre Iguodala II

Great structure of a 12-man rotation, a lot of fun skillsets, but we are just in dire need of reliable shooting

I think Chatman is a more capable offensive player than you think. He's not a guy we're going to run the offense through by any means, but we won't be playing 4 on 5 with him on the floor either.

He's got a decent midrange game, and he can step out and knock down a 3 as well. He shot roughly the same percentage that Tounde did from the perimeter last year.

joenatty
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I do feel strongly about Perez playing, I'm just not sure how soon his role would expand so I was trying to be conservative

Chatman shot 12/48 this year on long 2s and 22/79 from 3, and he only made 7 3's in JUCO. His 3pt% percentage was near Tounde's (which wasnt good) this last year but Tounde had >100 more attempts from deep

That's not to say we're running 4 on 5 with him, but there is very little there outside of the paint scoring
bear2be2
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joenatty said:

I do feel strongly about Perez playing, I'm just not sure how soon his role would expand so I was trying to be conservative

Chatman shot 12/48 this year on long 2s and 22/79 from 3, and he only made 7 3's in JUCO. His 3pt% percentage was near Tounde's (which wasnt good) this last year but Tounde had >100 more attempts from deep

That's not to say we're running 4 on 5 with him, but there is very little there outside of the paint scoring

I'm not suggesting he's a 3-point specialist. But if you leave him open, he's capable of knocking down a 3, which forces you to guard him.

Obviously 27.5 percent from 3 isn't good. But it's not bad at all from a power forward who is going to be doing the bulk of his damage in and around the paint. I'd much rather him shoot 27.5 percent on two or three attempts per game than have Tounde jacking up six a game at roughly the same percentage.
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I mean almost all of his 3s were open last year and he only made 28% of them, that coupled with his 25% on long twos is far from a resume that could be considered a capable shooter

Take into account that Kayden shot 21/88 last year, Bodo Bodo is 0/1 on his career, and Celiscar made a total of 24 threes last year. Considering that these 3 are all very likely starters with a career 3pt% of 30.2% (52/172), it doesn't seem very cohesive to infuse a 4th guy into that lineup with this notable of a shooting struggle
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- Brett Decker Jr. is 137/294 (46.6%) from 3 on his college career
- The 5 other players on the roster with college experience have shot a combined 105/335 (31.3%) from 3 in their careers
- Mayo Soyoye and Maikcol Perez are considered non-shooters
- Elijah Williams was not a great shooter from deep in high school
- Andre Iguodala II has shown solid flashes as a shooter

The next player(s) that CSD and staff add need to be legitimate threats from deep, or else we're gonna end up very clogged offensively barring multiple players making sizeable jumps as shooters
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joenatty said:

- Brett Decker Jr. is 137/294 (46.6%) from 3 on his college career
- The 5 other players on the roster with college experience have shot a combined 105/335 (31.3%) from 3 in their careers
- Mayo Soyoye and Maikcol Perez are considered non-shooters
- Elijah Williams was not a great shooter from deep in high school
- Andre Iguodala II has shown solid flashes as a shooter

The next player(s) that CSD and staff add need to be legitimate threats from deep, or else we're gonna end up very clogged offensively barring multiple players making sizeable jumps as shooters

We need another shooting guard, for sure, but I would welcome a team that focuses more on getting into the paint and doing its damage there and from the free-throw line.

After the past two years, I'm about tired of watching poor shooting teams chuck 24 3-point attempts a game.
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joenatty
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Can definitely agree with that, really enjoying the focus on defense and rebounding with this year's team
ScoobyT13
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After Chatman and Celiscar commits what is the likelihood we add 1/2 more rotational guys to our team? Surely we aren't done correct? Outside of a potential Dylan Mingo commitment. I do feel like we need another starting caliber player for the upcoming year.
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Yes. We need another guard to rotate with Mingo / Williams to share the 80 backcourt minutes. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised, but Decker looks more like a depth piece.
ScoobyT13
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I think Decker is going to be better than we think. His game reminds me a lot of Jared McCain in college. However I do agree we need someone else to mix in. Probably extremely unlikely but is it too wild to call Dior Johnson and get some instant offense? Seems like someone who could bridge the gap until Dylan Mingo gets fully healthy (assuming we get him)
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We're past the transfer portal deadline, so I figured it's time to look back and see how this thread aged. The staff did a good job on another thread revealing what next year's roster will look like, so I'll hold off on that analysis.

I said I wanted to see us do a hard roster reset and choose a lane. And that our most likely path towards contention is to build through continuity. That's not exactly groundbreaking, as bear2be2 and others have been pounding that drum for years, but it appears that's the direction we took. We'll still probably need one more year to see full results, but this was a huge step towards getting back to the Baylor Basketball that win at the highest level.

I also said we needed to move on from Jason Smith at GM. The Jake Lindsey hire confirms that we did. I'm pleased with that, as we missed on far too many high-dollar NIL takes.

All the "for sure gone" guys are gone (Agbim, Skillings, Rataj, Powell). Both "almost definitely gone" guys (Carr and JJ White) look to be gone. Carr to the draft, but I never saw JJ White announce anything. My thought is either he isn't going to get an appeal for the ~6ish games he played, or he is medically retiring from basketball. On the fence was Tounde Yessoufou, and while he's still technically on the fence, it sounds like he's leaning towards staying in the draft.

Where I massively missed is thinking the staff might prioritize James Nnaji over Mayo Soyoye. I thought the fact they added Nnaji and he had an NBA-ready body and 4 years to play meant that he would be in the picture. With him entering the portal and it sounding like we made the decision to part ways with him, it's become clear that we signed him to be a high-impact mid season add and he's just not at the level we thought he was. He's probably not a high level D1 player, unfortunately.

I said we'd need to add the following:

Scoring and more specifically, shooting.

The Mingo addition gives us scoring and slashing. The addition of Decker gives us shooting. We probably need one more piece in the backcourt. I would love to get Kayden's younger brother, Dylan, but it sings like he's on track for a redshirt due to an injury (I believe an ankle?). Getting Tounde back would have been huge here, but I don't think it's in the cards.

Another ball handler.

We got another ball handler in Kayden Mingo. We have a big gap in spacing, however, as both Mingo and Isaac Williams aren't volume shooters from outside.

A junkyard dog.

I think Chatman gives us the junkyard dog piece we've been missing. He's a really good rebounder and I bet we're going to see a lot of lobs to him off Mingo and Williams drives. We may even bring back a version of something Kendall Kaut dubbed "The Awesome Play" that we team as a designed set for Quincy Acy that freed him up for some wide open dunks. If Perez, Bodo Bodo, and Soyoye are ready to contribute the minutes we'll need from them, I think this could be our best frontcourt since 2022.

Overall, I'm pleased with what we've added so far, but we will need 1-2 more pieces to make this something really special.
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Tounde also entered the portal, so even if he leaves the draft he probably won't be returning to us.
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I agree on this take. I believe we're 1-2 relatively good pieces away from being competitive in the Big 12. I like the vision Scott had this go around in the portal. Acquiring young guys and giving them valuable minutes next year to blossom under our staff, while also (and this is not a knock on the talent we have) but more than likely there will be a lot of roster continuity for the following year.

Barring someone leaving in a Rob Wright type of fashion, I'd imagine Mingo brothers, Decker, Celiscar, Williams and others would stay for 27/28. This is just my prediction. Setting up 27/28 for a potentially very dangerous squad with a lot of experienced players for a deep March run.

If we were to acquire 2 more portal players it would be nice mixing in some upperclassmen (scoring guard and 3 point specialist) to help us get back to one of the top teams in the big 12 this year and regain momentum.

This is just my thoughts so far, excited for the pickups we have gotten, but hoping we have some more left in the tank.
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ScoobyT13 said:

I agree on this take. I believe we're 1-2 relatively good pieces away from being competitive in the Big 12. I like the vision Scott had this go around in the portal. Acquiring young guys and giving them valuable minutes next year to blossom under our staff, while also (and this is not a knock on the talent we have) but more than likely there will be a lot of roster continuity for the following year.

Barring someone leaving in a Rob Wright type of fashion, I'd imagine Mingo brothers, Decker, Celiscar, Williams and others would stay for 27/28. This is just my prediction. Setting up 27/28 for a potentially very dangerous squad with a lot of experienced players for a deep March run.

If we were to acquire 2 more portal players it would be nice mixing in some upperclassmen (scoring guard and 3 point specialist) to help us get back to one of the top teams in the big 12 this year and regain momentum.

This is just my thoughts so far, excited for the pickups we have gotten, but hoping we have some more left in the tank.
I just like that we're back to building again. It may or may not work out, but it's a lot more fun than shuffling the deck every season, which also didn't work out all that well for us.

All of our best teams under Scott Drew have been built over time. I'm glad we're at least trying to return to that formula.
 
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