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MBB: Baylor (18-12; 8-9) at KSU (20-10; 9-8) Preview & Game Thread

March 1, 2018
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Baylor (18-12; 8-9) visits Kansas State (20-10; 9-8) on Saturday March 3rd at 1pm CST.  The game is televised on ESPN.    

KenPom Rankings

Kansas State:   46 overall; 60 offensive efficiency; 44 defensive efficiency

Baylor:  28 overall; 73 offensive efficiency; 12 defensive efficiency

Prediction:  Kansas State 67 Baylor 65


Coaches

Kansas State:  Bruce Weber (61); 432-233 (119-78 at KSU); 11 NCAAs; 3 Sweet 16s; 1 Elite 8; 1 Final; 1 NCAA runner-up

Baylor:  Scott Drew (47); 317-202 overall (297-191 at Baylor); 7 NCAAs; 4 Sweet 16s; 2 Elite 8s


Kansas State Starting Line-Up

PG:  Cartier Diarra (FR) 6-4 190 lbs; 7 ppg; 2 asst; 49% FG; 40% 3pt; 80% FT

SG:  Barry Brown (JR); 6-3 195 lbs; 17 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 46% FG; 33% 3pt; 78% FT

SF:  Xavier Sneed (SO); 6-5 210 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 42% FG; 35% 3pt; 80% FT

PF:  Dean Wade (JR); 6-10 230 lbs; 16 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 55% FG; 43% 3pt; 74% FT

C:  Makol Malwien (SO) 6-9 225 lbs; 6 ppg; 3 reb; 1 blk; 61% FG; 72% FT

Kansas State Bench

G:  Kamau Stokes (JR); 6-5 195 lbs; 10 ppg; 4 asst; 38% FG; 37% 3pt; 77% FT

G:  Aamad Wainright (JR) 6-2 200 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 reb; 41% FG; 33% 3pt; 45% FT


Baylor Starting Line-up

PG:  Manu Lecomte (SR) 5-11 180 lbs; 16 ppg; 4 asst; 40% FG; 39% 3pt; 88% FT

SG:  Jake Lindsey (JR) 6-5 195 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 46% FG; 34% 3pt; 67% FT

SF:  Mark Vital (RFR) 6-5 230 lbs; 7 ppg; 6 reb; 2 asst; 50% FG; 50% FT

PF:  Tristan Clark (FR) 6-9 240 lbs; 7 ppg; 5 reb; 1 blk; 60% FG; 67% FT

C:  Jo Lual-Acuil (SR) 7-0 220 lbs; 15 ppg; 9 reb; 2 blks; 51% FG; 73% FT

Baylor Bench

G:  King McClure (JR) 6-3 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 39% FG; 34% 3pt; 77% FT

F:  Nuni Omot (SR) 6-9 210 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 2 asst; 47% FG; 42% 3pt; 84% FT

F:  Terry Maston (SR) 6-8 230 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 53% FG; 80% FT

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MBB: Baylor (18-12; 8-9) at KSU (20-10; 9-8) Preview & Game Thread

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bear2be2
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BaylorOkie said:

Is Kansas State shooting eleventy billion percent?
Only 56.4. Haha. But it feels even higher somehow.
MidWestBear2010
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Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
Hambone
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bear2be2 said:

Hambone said:

bear2be2 said:

Hambone said:

Wikstr9 said:

Why don't we put Manu on the bench. Start Lindsey at point and go with a larger 2-3 guard set.

They guy just can't put two consistent trips together. He's streaky and a poor game manager.
Putting Manu on the bench is NOT the answer. People were floating that during our slump and I'm sorry but it's just asinine. He just has to play better, because his offense is irreplaceable on this roster.

We go as Manu goes, and it's a big reason why we are a top 50 team instead of a top 25 team. There is no better option. Jake and King are both negative offensive players, Manu is a plus (just very streaky)
I agree with your main premise, but Manu has not been a plus this year -- at least in Big 12 play, where he's shooting 35 percent from the field and 32.5 percent from 3. He's a bad point guard or a poor-shooting two guard right now. Unfortunately, he's the best we've got, so we have no choice but to throw him out there and hope for the best.
For his career, he is an extremely efficient offensive player. Big 12 play this season has been tough, but he has no help from the SG spot.
I'm not talking about his career. What he did in the past doesn't help this team win games. And he's been a volume scorer this year when this team needed efficiency.
My assessment of Jake/King as negatives and Manu as positive are based on all of the sample we have.

He'd look better with better players surrounding him, that's for sure. Our guard play is atrocious, but I think the real problems are King and Jake's lack of offensive skills.

I have to run and have to watch this probable loss on my phone, later
"Tang was the Dawg" - 10ydCushion
rudylaw
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3ptSpecialist said:

rudylaw said:

vanillabryce said:

https://www.google.com/amp/wtnh.com/2018/03/02/yales-makai-mason-could-be-done-for-season/amp/

Mason had another setback with his foot. I don't know how much we can count on him.


OMG. Yeah, probably have to count him out at this point. 3 injuries on the same foot? Yeah...
he will be fine. Sprained an ankle. Different injury. He's shutting it down to heal. He should be good to go for Baylor's foreign tour this summer. But they are working to bring in a dynamic guard just in case.


Cool. Thanks.
3ptSpecialist
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HOW WEAK WITH THE BASKETBALL ARE WE GOING TO BE???
Ashley Hodge
JumboShrimper
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Yep this kinda team could make a run to the conference tourney championship or lose the first game.
JusHappy2BeHere
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MidWestBear2010 said:

Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
win one game next week and we are in
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
Johnny Bear
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
win one game next week and we are in
Depends. If we just win one it's still a big time risk depending on what happens elsewhere. We're also not helping ourselves with the ugly way we're losing games like this one and WVU a couple of games ago.
BaylorOkie
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Where'd everyone go?
JusHappy2BeHere
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we beat OU by 25 and they aren't out of it.

and we are only down 8 with time left
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
BU25
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Nuni!!!!
BaylorOkie
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Am I the only one that thinks the DQ chicken strip basket meal looks disgusting?
vanillabryce
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Had to make lunch for the kids. Apparently if you don't feed them they get really cranky.
vanillabryce
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So this lineup in man defense has looked good and we're moving the ball.
BU25
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Big Jo not being 100% today has really hurt us.
vanillabryce
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Back in zone
JusHappy2BeHere
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"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

Mahatma Gandhi
vanillabryce
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Absolutely
BaylorOkie
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vanillabryce said:

Had to make lunch for the kids. Apparently if you don't feed them they get really cranky.
Preach. My mother-in-law took my kids out for pizza so I'm sitting pretty right now.
vanillabryce
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Let's gooooo
vanillabryce
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Awesome! We have twin 3 year olds and a 19 month old. Took longer to clean up then it did to make and eat.
vanillabryce
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Lindsey and Nuni both went to close out on the same guy and left a shooter wide open in the corner.

Nuni's mistake.

Little crap like that kills us
bear2be2
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And Manu with the air ball. Remember when he could hit open shots? That was fun.
BU25
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vanillabryce said:

Lindsey and Nuni both went to close out on the same guy and left a shooter wide open in the corner.

Nuni's mistake.

Little crap like that kills us


Yeah, not just a shooter, but Brown, their co-best player...
BU25
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bear2be2 said:

And Manu with the air ball. Remember when he could hit open shots? That was fun.


Just a poor decision. Have been coming back without him shooting the ball, no need to force it.
vanillabryce
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These refs are garbage
Johnny Bear
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How many defensive possessions have we had in this game where we've played 29 seconds of good defense only to get scored on anyway?
vanillabryce
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Horrible play by Lindsey leads to a turnover and a foul
BU25
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Need to bench Vital, he's been a negative today...
BU25
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vanillabryce said:

Horrible play by Lindsey leads to a turnover and a foul


Not a good play, but Vital received the ball just fine. Just plowed in out of control like he has multiple times today. Refs aren't giving him any calls either.
vanillabryce
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Actually, no. That was a very tough pass to catch and then finish. Vital is going full speed. Lindsey was out of control and got stuck, and put Vital in a tough spot
JumboShrimper
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Made alil run but kstate drains everything.
JumboShrimper
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Trying to make the ncaa tourney with 14 losses scares me.
MidWestBear2010
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JusHappy2BeHere said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
win one game next week and we are in
Nope, we will be 7th seed and therefore playing Iowa State. A win will do nothing to help our resume.
Johnny Bear
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BU25 said:

Need to bench Vital, he's been a negative today...
Has he put up one shot today that hasn't been an absolute brick?
 
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