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MBB: Baylor (18-12; 8-9) at KSU (20-10; 9-8) Preview & Game Thread

March 1, 2018
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Baylor (18-12; 8-9) visits Kansas State (20-10; 9-8) on Saturday March 3rd at 1pm CST.  The game is televised on ESPN.    

KenPom Rankings

Kansas State:   46 overall; 60 offensive efficiency; 44 defensive efficiency

Baylor:  28 overall; 73 offensive efficiency; 12 defensive efficiency

Prediction:  Kansas State 67 Baylor 65


Coaches

Kansas State:  Bruce Weber (61); 432-233 (119-78 at KSU); 11 NCAAs; 3 Sweet 16s; 1 Elite 8; 1 Final; 1 NCAA runner-up

Baylor:  Scott Drew (47); 317-202 overall (297-191 at Baylor); 7 NCAAs; 4 Sweet 16s; 2 Elite 8s


Kansas State Starting Line-Up

PG:  Cartier Diarra (FR) 6-4 190 lbs; 7 ppg; 2 asst; 49% FG; 40% 3pt; 80% FT

SG:  Barry Brown (JR); 6-3 195 lbs; 17 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 46% FG; 33% 3pt; 78% FT

SF:  Xavier Sneed (SO); 6-5 210 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 42% FG; 35% 3pt; 80% FT

PF:  Dean Wade (JR); 6-10 230 lbs; 16 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 55% FG; 43% 3pt; 74% FT

C:  Makol Malwien (SO) 6-9 225 lbs; 6 ppg; 3 reb; 1 blk; 61% FG; 72% FT

Kansas State Bench

G:  Kamau Stokes (JR); 6-5 195 lbs; 10 ppg; 4 asst; 38% FG; 37% 3pt; 77% FT

G:  Aamad Wainright (JR) 6-2 200 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 reb; 41% FG; 33% 3pt; 45% FT


Baylor Starting Line-up

PG:  Manu Lecomte (SR) 5-11 180 lbs; 16 ppg; 4 asst; 40% FG; 39% 3pt; 88% FT

SG:  Jake Lindsey (JR) 6-5 195 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 46% FG; 34% 3pt; 67% FT

SF:  Mark Vital (RFR) 6-5 230 lbs; 7 ppg; 6 reb; 2 asst; 50% FG; 50% FT

PF:  Tristan Clark (FR) 6-9 240 lbs; 7 ppg; 5 reb; 1 blk; 60% FG; 67% FT

C:  Jo Lual-Acuil (SR) 7-0 220 lbs; 15 ppg; 9 reb; 2 blks; 51% FG; 73% FT

Baylor Bench

G:  King McClure (JR) 6-3 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 39% FG; 34% 3pt; 77% FT

F:  Nuni Omot (SR) 6-9 210 lbs; 9 ppg; 4 reb; 2 asst; 47% FG; 42% 3pt; 84% FT

F:  Terry Maston (SR) 6-8 230 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 53% FG; 80% FT

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MBB: Baylor (18-12; 8-9) at KSU (20-10; 9-8) Preview & Game Thread

41,776 Views | 182 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by BU25
Bro
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vanillabryce said:

These refs are garbage

In my entire long, long life rooting for a basketball team, there has NEVER been a game we lost when the refs weren't garbage, and there has NEVER been a game we won when the refs weren't unbiased, objective, and first class. Is that just a coincidence?
Johnny Bear
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bear2be2 said:

And Manu with the air ball. Remember when he could hit open shots? That was fun.
Kind of feels like 100 years ago right now, but yeah - that used to be fun.
vanillabryce
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I guess you don't watch much basketball.

We were all on here talking crap about the refs when we were up 30 on OU.
rudylaw
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Still in but going to Dayton to fave a team just as flawed as we are. Looking forward to a 58-52 win against some SEC team.
BU25
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Sure, instead of kicking it to a wide open McClure, let's force it inside against the 6'10 guy...
BU25
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vanillabryce said:

Actually, no. That was a very tough pass to catch and then finish. Vital is going full speed. Lindsey was out of control and got stuck, and put Vital in a tough spot


They both could've done better.
vanillabryce
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Cheers to that!
IndyYes
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Switch over to the Lady Bears game and you'll feel better.
BU25
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Just a poor decision by Nuni, luckily K State bailed us out. Still have a shot...
BU25
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IndyYes said:

Switch over to the Lady Bears game and you'll feel better.


Go ahead and switch over to the WBB board while you're at it.
whitetrash
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IndyYes said:

Switch over to the Lady Bears game and you'll feel better.


We are going to outscore KSt by 20 or 30 cumulatively today
BaylorOkie
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They keep showing that graphic that says, If the season ended today."

If?
rudylaw
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BU25 said:

IndyYes said:

Switch over to the Lady Bears game and you'll feel better.


Go ahead and switch over to the WBB board while you're at it.
A&M's WBB board.
RealLarryDon
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So we finish 2-7 on the road in Big 12 play.
JumboShrimper
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So are we going to play tech? I'd rather face them than wvu, tcu, or k state.
MidWestBear2010
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vanillabryce said:

Horrible play by Lindsey leads to a turnover and a foul
Odd the things you blame on Lindsey.
vanillabryce
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Well if we get Tech again in the B12 tourney it's going to be a tough game. They really know how to take us out of a rhythm and force our offense to start further out than we like. Winnable game though.
vanillabryce
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Well... he got out of control, jumped to make a pass, and gave it to Vital who's not a great ball handler as he was going near full speed. So yeah I expect a junior point guard to make a better decision than that
JumboShrimper
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I trust our defense in that game rather than seeing west Virginia, tcu, or k state keep draining shots on us.
rudylaw
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TTU or WVU are horrid matchups for us. Good in the sense we get a shot at another Q1 win but either team will be favored 5+ on us.
EGOTbear
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With loss in Big 12 - wrong side of bubble?
vanillabryce
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At the start of the game I think we had an ~80% chance to get in with a loss. So a road loss to a top 50 bpi team won't hurt us too much
rudylaw
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Cuse and Texas victories are killers. Alabama has a chance to really make today sting.
Bear8084
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MidWestBear2010 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
win one game next week and we are in
Nope, we will be 7th seed and therefore playing Iowa State. A win will do nothing to help our resume.


Yes. It will.
Bexar Pitts
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If Okie Lite beats Kansas today ( and they're up 28-14}, then we have a pile at 8-10...Lose the first tournament game and it may be NIT.
rudylaw
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TCU running Tech early.
NoBSU
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NIT
MidWestBear2010
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Bear8084 said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
win one game next week and we are in
Nope, we will be 7th seed and therefore playing Iowa State. A win will do nothing to help our resume.


Yes. It will.
It will only because we are the 6th seed and not the 7th seed like I thought. Only Q1 and Q2 wins will help us at this point. Good thing Texas won today to make us a 6th seed.
Baylor3216
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MidWestBear2010 said:

Bear8084 said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
win one game next week and we are in
Nope, we will be 7th seed and therefore playing Iowa State. A win will do nothing to help our resume.


Yes. It will.
It will only because we are a 6th seed and not a 7th seed like I thought. Only Q1 and Q2 wins will help us at this point. Good thing Texas won today to make us a 6th seed.


6 seed?
3ptSpecialist
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Baylor3216 said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

Bear8084 said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

JusHappy2BeHere said:

MidWestBear2010 said:

Positive Bear said:

Games like this make me believe we get beat by a mid major in the first round.
Well if we lose this game we will need to win the next two just to make the tournament. Getting beat in the tournament should be the least of our worries right now.
win one game next week and we are in
Nope, we will be 7th seed and therefore playing Iowa State. A win will do nothing to help our resume.


Yes. It will.
It will only because we are a 6th seed and not a 7th seed like I thought. Only Q1 and Q2 wins will help us at this point. Good thing Texas won today to make us a 6th seed.


6 seed?
in the big12 tourney. We are locked into the 6th spot
Ashley Hodge
Wikstr9
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Sorry but Drew needed to pull Manu and tell him to find other ways to help the team win today. You just can't keep throwing up bricks.

And for you guys who think he's the best we got - then Drew needs to find a better strategy when Manu is cold from the field.
rudylaw
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Wikstr9 said:

Sorry but Drew needed to pull Manu and tell him to find other ways to help the team win today. You just can't keep throwing up bricks.

And for you guys who think he's the best we got - then Drew needs to find a better strategy when Manu is cold from the field.
I'm no huge Manu fan but we don't really have a plan B (McClure is plan C) if he's cold. This roster is severely limited offensively. Nuni went for 30 today but KSU was just better today as well as the last time. They are the better team.
marco
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vanillabryce said:

At the start of the game I think we had an ~80% chance to get in with a loss. So a road loss to a top 50 bpi team won't hurt us too much
this is my thinking too. Hope Jo is good to go.
Bexar Pitts
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Marco, I think Lunardi had the Bears with an 87% chance with a loss today. BUT, that was before Texas won and Okie State has a 21 point lead over Kansas with a minute left..So we've got 4 teams at 8-10 in conference play..18-13 overall. So does everybody but Iowa State go dancing? I think the tournament tells the tale. We'll see.
vanillabryce
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That's true, but we went 2-0 v Texas and Okie Lite. I believe the committee still looks at head to head as one of their criteria, but not sure.

 
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