Baylor WBB Unranked for first time since 2004

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Adriacus Peratuun
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lookin4awin said:

You have no idea why Angel Reese came to LSU. You are throwing crap out there. If Angel got a bunch of money and got to play for Mulkey too, more power to her. How do you explain Carrington, Cooper, and Chloe Jackson. Answer that. YOU CAN'T. They got paid nothing. I doubt any of them came to Waco to meet Chip. They came to play for Mulkey. And, she would have brought in more talent just like them. You just spew conjecture as fact.
Reese's AAU coach told the media how much she is paid. Stated that getting paid "fairly" was important to Reese.

Want to call the coach a liar?

And your nonsense is clear. 1 portal player per year [your exact talking point above] wouldn't save the existing roster situation. Plugging one hole isn't the same as rebuilding the entire ship.

But nice try with incomplete analysis.
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One teams 18-0 and crushing everyone. The others 12-5 with back to back loses to mediocre teams. Weird flex. But I expect nothing less from a guy who thinks he could have done better as the BU than Mulkey did
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

baylor1984 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

lookin4awin said:

But, yet, she's managed to get what she needs at LSU, which she always managed to do at Baylor. For 20 years she brought in what she needs to and continues to do so. Carrington, Cooper, Jackson, her last three years. And they didn't come for NIL money, there wasn't any. Angel Reese this year. These players just don't pop up by accident. Why in the world would you think that would have stopped. She had two good players at LSU when she arrived, and she left Baylor the runner up national player of the year and Queen Egbo. who made the all rookie team. She would have brought in other top players too. She gets what she needs...and as she always has, she would have gotten it the last two years at Baylor

This isn't conjecture, it is based on her track record for 20 years.
Angel Reese is paid $100,000 with potential bonuses of $75,000. That $ is why she is at LSU.

Williams is being paid $100,000.

Mulkey wouldn't have Smith or Egbo at Baylor this year. Fact.

Baylor was going to drop off under every single scenario.

2020 recruiting: 1 player, left before Mulkey
2021 recruiting: 2 players, 1 great 1 dud
2022 recruiting: 1 player injured before arriving, wanted out before Mulkey left

That is the relevant track record. WBB has 15 scholarships. 3 recruiting classes should = no less than 11 players. Baylor has 1 player to show for Mulkey's last three years.

She left a mess and she owns the dropoff 100%. Not Collen, Mulkey owns it! JohnWooden couldn't win big with what Collen inherited.


Excuse, Excuse, Excuse. It's all you ever do. How is a team who hadn't been to a tourney in 5 years have the #3 team in the nation with all the players ( top 8) all brought in by the coach either thru the portal/grad transfer/HS recruit in the last 2 years? You have no clue who she would have brought in to Baylor and her track record says she would have and it would be a winner. You make excuses, she continues to win.
Excuse…..lol.

Between Baylor and LSU which team has more victories over ranked teams this season?

Hint: not Mulkey's team
I root for Baylor and would tomorrow if we played LSU but do you honestly think Baylor would keep it within double digits if they played? Would you rather be #3 in the nation and undefeated or be unranked with more ranked victories?
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

lookin4awin said:

You have no idea why Angel Reese came to LSU. You are throwing crap out there. If Angel got a bunch of money and got to play for Mulkey too, more power to her. How do you explain Carrington, Cooper, and Chloe Jackson. Answer that. YOU CAN'T. They got paid nothing. I doubt any of them came to Waco to meet Chip. They came to play for Mulkey. And, she would have brought in more talent just like them. You just spew conjecture as fact.
Reese's AAU coach told the media how much she is paid. Stated that getting paid "fairly" was important to Reese.

Want to call the coach a liar?

And your nonsense is clear. 1 portal player per year [your exact talking point above] wouldn't save the existing roster situation. Plugging one hole isn't the same as rebuilding the entire ship.

But nice try with incomplete analysis.
Analysis is totally complete. No natty without Cloe Jackson and probably a second one with Cooper,and Carrington got us as far as she could her year. She almost pulled out our last loss. You are such a joke and have zero objectivity as to Mulkey's success.
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baylor1984 said:

blueeyedbear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

blueeyedbear said:

MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.


Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.
Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.
The reason we post is exactly why we post. Kim would have us in the top 5 if she were here. Are you going to tell me Kim's teams were never injured. She lost key players season after season. My beef is a stupid administration that lets winners go in any sport.
Your handle should be "Aliceinfantasyland"
No way Kim would have us in top 5 if she had she stayed.
Fact - Kim left on her own volition - She picked the hill she was willing to die on and she lost. STUPID.
Fact - She WAS NOT fired by the Administration !!
Fact - Kim's recruiting was in serious trouble. She lost HVL to Louisville, Dudu started asking for her commitment release three weeks after giving it. Smith's family was sending out feelers and would not have stayed had Mulkey stayed, Egbo was considering leaving as well.
Fact - The Calvery via the portal only produced one player, a guard - no interest from anyone for her big's back to the basket offense to replace Cox & Brown.
Fact - Bridges burned with way too many AAU programs and summer camps put a restriction on recruiting opportunities. KISS OF DEATH to a program.

The bottom line is there was going to be a very loud thud when the program went from National contender to bottom of the Big 12 had Kim stayed.




How has the top 8 players that get any significant playing time at LSU been brought in by KM in the last 2 years either thru grad transfer or HS recruiting which has that team at #3 in the nation? How did that happen and if you want to bet against KM losing at any level then please show evidence of it because it has never happened since she laced up a pair of Converse shoes 50 plus years ago. Her track record of winning speaks for itself. I have no problem with KM leaving but to think BU would suddenly fall to the bottom of the Big 12 is true fantasy land territory. She's wins it's what she does and has always done. She might be the biggest B in the world but she wins that's for damn sure.
We will see if LSU retains top 3 status when tournament bracket is announced.
I will not argue Kim has been a winner athletically her entire athletic life.
There are 5,000 women by most estimates currently playing D1 basketball - Kim brought in two GA's and one 5th Year and one sophomore from the portal.
She takes Morris back after passing on two opportunities while she was at Baylor ??
$ 200,000.00 goes a long way to swaying a teenager to play for you.
Getting Reese, Smith and Johnson for $$$ raised her team to another level.

How about you reach into your back pocket and cut CNC a $ 100,000.00 and see what she does with it on a now level playing field ??
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lookin4awin said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

lookin4awin said:

You have no idea why Angel Reese came to LSU. You are throwing crap out there. If Angel got a bunch of money and got to play for Mulkey too, more power to her. How do you explain Carrington, Cooper, and Chloe Jackson. Answer that. YOU CAN'T. They got paid nothing. I doubt any of them came to Waco to meet Chip. They came to play for Mulkey. And, she would have brought in more talent just like them. You just spew conjecture as fact.
Reese's AAU coach told the media how much she is paid. Stated that getting paid "fairly" was important to Reese.

Want to call the coach a liar?

And your nonsense is clear. 1 portal player per year [your exact talking point above] wouldn't save the existing roster situation. Plugging one hole isn't the same as rebuilding the entire ship.

But nice try with incomplete analysis.
Analysis is totally complete. No natty without Cloe Jackson and probably a second one with Cooper,and Carrington got us as far as she could her year. She almost pulled out our last loss. You are such a joke and have zero objectivity as to Mulkey's success.
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Which one player currently in college makes that Mulkey recruited roster win in 2022/2023?

Jackson/Cooper/Carrington……1 per year [each for 1 year].

You argue that such a recruit makes the difference. Name any player from the portal.

As an aside, zero bench.
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blueeyedbear said:

baylor1984 said:

blueeyedbear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

blueeyedbear said:

MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.


Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.
Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.
The reason we post is exactly why we post. Kim would have us in the top 5 if she were here. Are you going to tell me Kim's teams were never injured. She lost key players season after season. My beef is a stupid administration that lets winners go in any sport.
Your handle should be "Aliceinfantasyland"
No way Kim would have us in top 5 if she had she stayed.
Fact - Kim left on her own volition - She picked the hill she was willing to die on and she lost. STUPID.
Fact - She WAS NOT fired by the Administration !!
Fact - Kim's recruiting was in serious trouble. She lost HVL to Louisville, Dudu started asking for her commitment release three weeks after giving it. Smith's family was sending out feelers and would not have stayed had Mulkey stayed, Egbo was considering leaving as well.
Fact - The Calvery via the portal only produced one player, a guard - no interest from anyone for her big's back to the basket offense to replace Cox & Brown.
Fact - Bridges burned with way too many AAU programs and summer camps put a restriction on recruiting opportunities. KISS OF DEATH to a program.

The bottom line is there was going to be a very loud thud when the program went from National contender to bottom of the Big 12 had Kim stayed.




How has the top 8 players that get any significant playing time at LSU been brought in by KM in the last 2 years either thru grad transfer or HS recruiting which has that team at #3 in the nation? How did that happen and if you want to bet against KM losing at any level then please show evidence of it because it has never happened since she laced up a pair of Converse shoes 50 plus years ago. Her track record of winning speaks for itself. I have no problem with KM leaving but to think BU would suddenly fall to the bottom of the Big 12 is true fantasy land territory. She's wins it's what she does and has always done. She might be the biggest B in the world but she wins that's for damn sure.
We will see if LSU retains top 3 status when tournament bracket is announced.
I will not argue Kim has been a winner athletically her entire athletic life.
There are 5,000 women by most estimates currently playing D1 basketball - Kim brought in two GA's and one 5th Year and one sophomore from the portal.
She takes Morris back after passing on two opportunities while she was at Baylor ??
$ 200,000.00 goes a long way to swaying a teenager to play for you.
Getting Reese, Smith and Johnson for $$$ raised her team to another level.

How about you reach into your back pocket and cut CNC a $ 100,000.00 and see what she does with it on a now level playing field ??

That's CNC's job to go out and raise the money. If she personally called me and asked for it I'd cut her a check for 500 dollars tomorrow. I donate to the foundation and I'm a member of athletes plus on here. I was at a function in Dallas (first time I have ever attended one of these) when CNC was hired with her and Coach Drew and would have written her a check that day if she would have asked for it. It's her job to raise the money not mine but I'd happily contribute if she asked.
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baylor1984 said:


..but in the end the bottom line a coach is judged by is wins and losses.
Funny you should say that. Coach Nicki is 17 games into her 2nd season at Baylor; let's just take a look at the wins & losses at this point for NC and KM.

Nicki - Overall record 40-12
Conference record 18-5

Mulkey - Overall record 35-12
Conference record 11-12
I'm not quite as dumb as I seem
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While things do seem bleak, there does appear to be light at the end of the tunnel with Littlepage-Buggs, Fontleroy, LV (the 6'7" girl I cant spell her name) and Marcayla Johnson. Add a few to those we are recruiting and I would expect sweet 16 and better.
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MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:


..but in the end the bottom line a coach is judged by is wins and losses.
Funny you should say that. Coach Nicki is 17 games into her 2nd season at Baylor; let's just take a look at the wins & losses at this point for NC and KM.

Nicki - Overall record 40-12
Conference record 18-5

Mulkey - Overall record 35-12
Conference record 11-12
Are you comparing Baylor of 2021 coming off an elite 8 with 3 WNBA draft picks including 2 of the top 10 to Baylor of 2000 that had never played in a single tournament game? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL is all I have to say.
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I think AP is getting agitated
IowaBear
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Shocker…. Everyone needs to bow down to him pronto. If not he's going to pop off
blueeyedbear
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baylor1984 said:

blueeyedbear said:

baylor1984 said:

blueeyedbear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

blueeyedbear said:

MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.


Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.
Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.
The reason we post is exactly why we post. Kim would have us in the top 5 if she were here. Are you going to tell me Kim's teams were never injured. She lost key players season after season. My beef is a stupid administration that lets winners go in any sport.
Your handle should be "Aliceinfantasyland"
No way Kim would have us in top 5 if she had she stayed.
Fact - Kim left on her own volition - She picked the hill she was willing to die on and she lost. STUPID.
Fact - She WAS NOT fired by the Administration !!
Fact - Kim's recruiting was in serious trouble. She lost HVL to Louisville, Dudu started asking for her commitment release three weeks after giving it. Smith's family was sending out feelers and would not have stayed had Mulkey stayed, Egbo was considering leaving as well.
Fact - The Calvery via the portal only produced one player, a guard - no interest from anyone for her big's back to the basket offense to replace Cox & Brown.
Fact - Bridges burned with way too many AAU programs and summer camps put a restriction on recruiting opportunities. KISS OF DEATH to a program.

The bottom line is there was going to be a very loud thud when the program went from National contender to bottom of the Big 12 had Kim stayed.




How has the top 8 players that get any significant playing time at LSU been brought in by KM in the last 2 years either thru grad transfer or HS recruiting which has that team at #3 in the nation? How did that happen and if you want to bet against KM losing at any level then please show evidence of it because it has never happened since she laced up a pair of Converse shoes 50 plus years ago. Her track record of winning speaks for itself. I have no problem with KM leaving but to think BU would suddenly fall to the bottom of the Big 12 is true fantasy land territory. She's wins it's what she does and has always done. She might be the biggest B in the world but she wins that's for damn sure.
We will see if LSU retains top 3 status when tournament bracket is announced.
I will not argue Kim has been a winner athletically her entire athletic life.
There are 5,000 women by most estimates currently playing D1 basketball - Kim brought in two GA's and one 5th Year and one sophomore from the portal.
She takes Morris back after passing on two opportunities while she was at Baylor ??
$ 200,000.00 goes a long way to swaying a teenager to play for you.
Getting Reese, Smith and Johnson for $$$ raised her team to another level.

How about you reach into your back pocket and cut CNC a $ 100,000.00 and see what she does with it on a now level playing field ??

That's CNC's job to go out and raise the money. If she personally called me and asked for it I'd cut her a check for 500 dollars tomorrow. I donate to the foundation and I'm a member of athletes plus on here. I was at a function in Dallas (first time I have ever attended one of these) when CNC was hired with her and Coach Drew and would have written her a check that day if she would have asked for it. It's her job to raise the money not mine but I'd happily contribute if she asked.
I am going to hold you to that pledge as symbolic as it is. However, I am talking about a level playing field where CNC has the same $$$$ as Kim does. Then we can compare apples to apples when it comes to signing recruits not 100,000.00 apples to 500 oranges.
I will be speaking with CNC and staff soon about the NIL impact on their recruiting..
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blueeyedbear said:

baylor1984 said:

blueeyedbear said:

baylor1984 said:

blueeyedbear said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

blueeyedbear said:

MrGolfguy said:

Bear3 said:

Everyone on this board wants to win and is not happy with the team's current record. Yes, Mulkey did amazing things here. However regardless of the circumstances surrounding Kim's departure, she is happy at LSU and is not coming back to Baylor. Future wins will have to come from a different head coach.

Constantly demeaning a coach who has been here less than 2 years and not giving her a reasonable amount of time to get her players and implement her system is not going to help bring wins. This is how UT boards are. They frequently change coaches and you see the results.

If things do not improve in a couple of years, yes Nicki should be gone. But the woman should be given a reasonable time to succeed.

Also this year her best player, Ajiah Blackwell, has been injured most of the season. The loss of your best player is going to impact anyone's season. LSU would be a very different team without Angel Reese for several months and even South Carolina would be affected if Aliyah Boston was out long.

The bottom line is that Nicki is now our coach. I just think fans should support her and give her a reasonable amount of time to succeed, Recruits do notice wins and losses but they also notice fan support for a team. No fan support could also cause recruits to look elsewhere.


Great post; unfortunately common sense doesn't go over very well on here.
Nice post Bear - thanks for supplying some badly need honesty MrGolf. What I can't figure out is why these haters post ?? Kim is gone of her on doing - its water under the bridge, over the dam - I am sure the LSU board will welcome their "expert" postings.
The reason we post is exactly why we post. Kim would have us in the top 5 if she were here. Are you going to tell me Kim's teams were never injured. She lost key players season after season. My beef is a stupid administration that lets winners go in any sport.
Your handle should be "Aliceinfantasyland"
No way Kim would have us in top 5 if she had she stayed.
Fact - Kim left on her own volition - She picked the hill she was willing to die on and she lost. STUPID.
Fact - She WAS NOT fired by the Administration !!
Fact - Kim's recruiting was in serious trouble. She lost HVL to Louisville, Dudu started asking for her commitment release three weeks after giving it. Smith's family was sending out feelers and would not have stayed had Mulkey stayed, Egbo was considering leaving as well.
Fact - The Calvery via the portal only produced one player, a guard - no interest from anyone for her big's back to the basket offense to replace Cox & Brown.
Fact - Bridges burned with way too many AAU programs and summer camps put a restriction on recruiting opportunities. KISS OF DEATH to a program.

The bottom line is there was going to be a very loud thud when the program went from National contender to bottom of the Big 12 had Kim stayed.




How has the top 8 players that get any significant playing time at LSU been brought in by KM in the last 2 years either thru grad transfer or HS recruiting which has that team at #3 in the nation? How did that happen and if you want to bet against KM losing at any level then please show evidence of it because it has never happened since she laced up a pair of Converse shoes 50 plus years ago. Her track record of winning speaks for itself. I have no problem with KM leaving but to think BU would suddenly fall to the bottom of the Big 12 is true fantasy land territory. She's wins it's what she does and has always done. She might be the biggest B in the world but she wins that's for damn sure.
We will see if LSU retains top 3 status when tournament bracket is announced.
I will not argue Kim has been a winner athletically her entire athletic life.
There are 5,000 women by most estimates currently playing D1 basketball - Kim brought in two GA's and one 5th Year and one sophomore from the portal.
She takes Morris back after passing on two opportunities while she was at Baylor ??
$ 200,000.00 goes a long way to swaying a teenager to play for you.
Getting Reese, Smith and Johnson for $$$ raised her team to another level.

How about you reach into your back pocket and cut CNC a $ 100,000.00 and see what she does with it on a now level playing field ??

That's CNC's job to go out and raise the money. If she personally called me and asked for it I'd cut her a check for 500 dollars tomorrow. I donate to the foundation and I'm a member of athletes plus on here. I was at a function in Dallas (first time I have ever attended one of these) when CNC was hired with her and Coach Drew and would have written her a check that day if she would have asked for it. It's her job to raise the money not mine but I'd happily contribute if she asked.
I am going to hold you to that pledge as symbolic as it is. However, I am talking about a level playing field where CNC has the same $$$$ as Kim does. Then we can compare apples to apples when it comes to signing recruits not 100,000.00 apples to 500 oranges.
I will be speaking with CNC and staff soon about the NIL impact on their recruiting..
Absolutely .I have a fraternity brother who played tennis back in the early 80's who has gotten involved with the tennis program along with another fraternity brother who just retired to Waco. They got Coach Woodson to send out a letter to us telling us about the Tennis program etc. I ended up sending him a check for 100 dollars and I don't even like tennis and have never seen a match in my life but thought it was nice of him to write the letter.
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geewago said:

I think AP is getting agitated


MrGolfguy
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baylor1984 said:

MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:


..but in the end the bottom line a coach is judged by is wins and losses.
Funny you should say that. Coach Nicki is 17 games into her 2nd season at Baylor; let's just take a look at the wins & losses at this point for NC and KM.

Nicki - Overall record 40-12
Conference record 18-5

Mulkey - Overall record 35-12
Conference record 11-12
Are you comparing Baylor of 2021 coming off an elite 8 with 3 WNBA draft picks including 2 of the top 10 to Baylor of 2000 that had never played in a single tournament game? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL is all I have to say.

I'm comparing the BU of 2000 that Hogg had taken to two WNIT's including the Champ game - ie Mulkey inherited a decently good program and proceeded to go under .500 with them in conference thru 17 games in her 2nd year. Nicki won the Conf in her 1st year with half a team and has gone 18-5 thru 17 games in her 2nd year with a lot of injuries & missing players.
I'm not quite as dumb as I seem
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Angel Reese was scheduled for Baylor visit immediately after her LSU visit and previsit scuttlebutt was that we would sign her. Instead she got paid and never came. Money matters. She cut her first LSU NIL commercial (think it was McDonalds - don't remember for sure) that same LSU weekend. Mikayla Williams always liked Mulkey who recruited her from 8th grade on but she was still planning visits ( we were a maybe) until she got 100k and shut everything down.

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This conversation very much reminds me of the time I tried to reason with my then toddler as to why he shouldn't eat food from the dog's bowl.
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MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:

MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:


..but in the end the bottom line a coach is judged by is wins and losses.
Funny you should say that. Coach Nicki is 17 games into her 2nd season at Baylor; let's just take a look at the wins & losses at this point for NC and KM.

Nicki - Overall record 40-12
Conference record 18-5

Mulkey - Overall record 35-12
Conference record 11-12
Are you comparing Baylor of 2021 coming off an elite 8 with 3 WNBA draft picks including 2 of the top 10 to Baylor of 2000 that had never played in a single tournament game? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL is all I have to say.

I'm comparing the BU of 2000 that Hogg had taken to two WNIT's including the Champ game - ie Mulkey inherited a decently good program and proceeded to go under .500 with them in conference thru 17 games in her 2nd year. Nicki won the Conf in her 1st year with half a team and has gone 18-5 thru 17 games in her 2nd year with a lot of injuries & missing players.
You mean the team that went 7-20 and 2-14 in conference in 99 vs the team that went 28-3 and 17-1 in conference in 2021 with an elite 8 appearance. Stick to Golf please.
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You can't deny Mulkey inherited a better team than you're saying. Sonja Hogg turned the Baylor WBB team around not Mulkey, They were tourney tested & had a deep run playing for a Championship just prior to KM taking over - that's just FACTS.
I can't imagine how loudly you were calling for Mulkey's firing in 2002 when she was under .500 in conference play, saying she was a terrible hire because she had never been a HC before. LOL you had it all figured out even way back then.
I'm not quite as dumb as I seem
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So you think Baylor is better than LSU? You are funny!
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MrGolfguy said:

You can't deny Mulkey inherited a better team than you're saying. Sonja Hogg turned the Baylor WBB team around not Mulkey, They were tourney tested & had a deep run playing for a Championship just prior to KM taking over - that's just FACTS.
I can't imagine how loudly you were calling for Mulkey's firing in 2002 when she was under .500 in conference play, saying she was a terrible hire because she had never been a HC before. LOL you had it all figured out even way back then.
I assume you understand just a little about competitive sports. Here was KM background before she came to Baylor. 4 HS State Championships, 4 Final Fours with 2 NC's, 1 Gold Medal ( the first for USA WBB). 15 years as an Asst. to LB who has the second highest winning percentage all time along with winning a NC as an Asst. Coach. Winners win and KM had a winning background that was undisputable before she ever stepped foot on Baylor's campus.
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You're just full of excuses aren't you, SMH

You're words were "it's all about wins & losses"

Nicki = 18-5
Mulkey = 11-12

FACTS
I'm not quite as dumb as I seem
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lookin4awin said:

Where's the answer on Carrington, Jackson and Cooper Einstein. Who did they come to play for?

Hint you don't have one and can't throw crap out on this one.
I do - Kim had Cox and Smith on roster. She needed a proven Point guard because she dismissed the only recruited point guard off the team and was not able to recruit another one out of high school so she had no choice to turn to the portal and got lucky with Chloe.
Let's just be honest here it was Chloe that got Coop to come to Baylor !!
Carrington came to play with Smith.

Having to use the portal is a band aid and eventually relying on it over time it hurts more then it helps as far as developing the team with 4 year players instead of one year and done mercenaries.
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MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:

MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:


..but in the end the bottom line a coach is judged by is wins and losses.
Funny you should say that. Coach Nicki is 17 games into her 2nd season at Baylor; let's just take a look at the wins & losses at this point for NC and KM.

Nicki - Overall record 40-12
Conference record 18-5

Mulkey - Overall record 35-12
Conference record 11-12
Are you comparing Baylor of 2021 coming off an elite 8 with 3 WNBA draft picks including 2 of the top 10 to Baylor of 2000 that had never played in a single tournament game? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL is all I have to say.

I'm comparing the BU of 2000 that Hogg had taken to two WNIT's including the Champ game - ie Mulkey inherited a decently good program and proceeded to go under .500 with them in conference thru 17 games in her 2nd year. Nicki won the Conf in her 1st year with half a team and has gone 18-5 thru 17 games in her 2nd year with a lot of injuries & missing players.
BOOM !!
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MrGolfguy said:

You're just full of excuses aren't you, SMH

You're words were "it's all about wins & losses"

Nicki = 18-5
Mulkey = 11-12

FACTS
It is. 3 National Championships and the 3rd Highest winning percentage of all time and now the #3 team in the nation while Baylor is out of the top 25 for the first time in 19 years.
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blueeyedbear said:

lookin4awin said:

Where's the answer on Carrington, Jackson and Cooper Einstein. Who did they come to play for?

Hint you don't have one and can't throw crap out on this one.
I do - Kim had Cox and Smith on roster. She needed a proven Point guard because she dismissed the only recruited point guard off the team and was not able to recruit another one out of high school so she had no choice to turn to the portal and got lucky with Chloe.
Let's just be honest here it was Chloe that got Coop to come to Baylor !!
Carrington came to play with Smith.

Having to use the portal is a band aid and eventually relying on it over time it hurts more then it helps as far as developing the team with 4 year players instead of one year and done mercenaries.
Go peddle that portal is a bandaid theory to people who don't understand basketball or football. Mulkey has made a killing off the portal and will continue to do so. Stars want to play for her. Your continuing efforts to say Mulkey was washed up at Baylor and the reason Baylor is losing now is really below reason-especially looking at her monumental history as a proven winner. You have absolutely zero proof it wouldn't continue here today. And to top it off, she is continuing to produce where she is now with a program that was washed up before she arrived. You really embarrass yourself by knocking Mulkey's credentials.

Stick with nobody made her leave. That is probably the only lead punch you and your brother AP really have.
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baylor1984 said:

MrGolfguy said:

You're just full of excuses aren't you, SMH

You're words were "it's all about wins & losses"

Nicki = 18-5
Mulkey = 11-12

FACTS
It is. 3 National Championships and the 3rd Highest winning percentage of all time and now the #3 team in the nation while Baylor is out of the top 25 for the first time in 19 years.

So you admit you're an LSU fan - exactly what I figured
I'm not quite as dumb as I seem
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MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:

MrGolfguy said:

You're just full of excuses aren't you, SMH

You're words were "it's all about wins & losses"

Nicki = 18-5
Mulkey = 11-12

FACTS
It is. 3 National Championships and the 3rd Highest winning percentage of all time and now the #3 team in the nation while Baylor is out of the top 25 for the first time in 19 years.

So you admit you're an LSU fan - exactly what I figured
Nope. Just stating FACTS.
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Not only are you wrong, but now you're stealing my lines. Shameful
I'm not quite as dumb as I seem
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MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:


..but in the end the bottom line a coach is judged by is wins and losses.
Funny you should say that. Coach Nicki is 17 games into her 2nd season at Baylor; let's just take a look at the wins & losses at this point for NC and KM.

Nicki - Overall record 40-12
Conference record 18-5

Mulkey - Overall record 35-12
Conference record 11-12
Funny you should mention this and you're smarter than this too. Kim built a program from nothing.
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lookin4awin said:

blueeyedbear said:

lookin4awin said:

Where's the answer on Carrington, Jackson and Cooper Einstein. Who did they come to play for?

Hint you don't have one and can't throw crap out on this one.
I do - Kim had Cox and Smith on roster. She needed a proven Point guard because she dismissed the only recruited point guard off the team and was not able to recruit another one out of high school so she had no choice to turn to the portal and got lucky with Chloe.
Let's just be honest here it was Chloe that got Coop to come to Baylor !!
Carrington came to play with Smith.

Having to use the portal is a band aid and eventually relying on it over time it hurts more then it helps as far as developing the team with 4 year players instead of one year and done mercenaries.
Go peddle that portal is a bandaid theory to people who don't understand basketball or football. Mulkey has made a killing off the portal and will continue to do so. Stars want to play for her. Your continuing efforts to say Mulkey was washed up at Baylor and the reason Baylor is losing now is really below reason-especially looking at her monumental history as a proven winner. You have absolutely zero proof it wouldn't continue here today. And to top it off, she is continuing to produce where she is now with a program that was washed up before she arrived. You really embarrass yourself by knocking Mulkey's credentials.

Stick with nobody made her leave. That is probably the only lead punch you and your brother AP really have.
I have never mocked Kim's credentials - I have posted numerous times that BU owes Kim a debt that can never be paid. I have however mocked yours's and others basketball credentials that post bias, unfair posts.
Most of It is pure emotion instead of actual honest basketball assessment. You and other haters that only parrot Kim's cherry-picked accomplishments and totally ignore her failures of which there are several - your blind bias undermines the credibility of any post you send.
None of you haters want to hear the truth - You haters continually want to talk about the 3 National Titles she has on her resume .......but you do not want to hear about the 3 - 4 National Titles she should have won and did not (2 with the most dominant player in WBB history) !!
300 D1 schools pick from the portal most without winning conference titles or making the Final 4. Kim lucked out and found the perfect one she needed to win the NT - I give her credit for pulling that off. But facts are the facts..... it was Chloe that got Coop to come - not Kim (fact is she was WVA bound, and Chloe got her to switch to Baylor). It was Smith that got Carrington to come to Baylor.
A comparison was done about Kim's first couple of years with CNC's which is the only fair comparison to make and Baylor1984 wants to change the comparison to another unrelated season that supports his blind bias narrative.
Fact is in 2000 Kim came in and hired Brock as assistant coach who brought with him 4 players one of which was a JUCO All American (Lambert) and one heck of a ball player. Neely and McCormac were no fill-ins either.
So, if we want to be honest Kim had an advantage that CNC did not have in her first year - a full team. Still it took until 2004 for Kim to build the "Beast" and we all know about 2005.
Took Kim 5 years - why can't you haters give CNC the same time Kim had and then compare ????


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What an incredibly bitter person you are
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

MrGolfguy said:

baylor1984 said:




Kim built a program from nothing.
Not true. Sonja Hogg brought the program back from DOA status; Mulkey built from that point. It's a fact that always gets overlooked when talking Baylor WBB.
I'm not quite as dumb as I seem
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Blackwell is needed. Any updates on her injury?
 
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