That's correct, she has filed lawsuit against US Immigration. She has been in US on F-1 student visa for the past 4 years that does not generally allow NILs in US. There are a few exceptions to the rule that lawyers have been able to work around. US Immigration has denied her application for P-1A visa which would allow her to fully participate in NIL.
She has not received any NIL at LSU except for her tshirts/jerseys, which is allowed since it's considered "passive" NIL. She has been receiving NILs from her home country Australia, which is allowed.

Now with Jana coming back this does potentially impact class of 2025 at point guard. This is beside Ines who is redshirting this year. Both are point guards. I would dare to say Jana when healthy is the starter at PG next year. Unless someone is willing to be patient at the position I don't see a PG in the class of 2025 happening. I know Marcalya Johnson is committed for 2025, but she is not a point guard more like off the ball. Now transfers at point guard could be a different story but will see. I would think probably adding transfers at guard that are not point guards besides center and possibly forward but will see. Jaliya Davis is an option for 2025 class at forward/center but will see what she does.

Are we still recruiting any 2025 players other than Jaliya? I will be pleasantly surprised if we get Jaliya. She is looking at other schools such as Texas and South Carolina who will offer more NIL than we can provide.

Not according to this website which link is below. Then again maybe there is someone that nobody is aware of or a potential flip which who knows that even happens.

https://wbbblog.com/baylor-womens-basketball-recruiting/2/

Vol Nation said she is getting NIL. That iwas also the word relayed to my friend on the circuit.

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Vol Nation said she is getting NIL. That iwas also the word relayed to my friend on the circuit.

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Yep…can't imagine she went there for the tshirts. First year D1 coach…the third coach since the last NC in 2008
Hummmmm..maybe just likes the colors? $$$

Wish we could get in on Jaida Civil. We weren't in her top 11 but maybe we could wiggle back in. Think she is a Vol, too

If Tenn secured NIL for Prawl in the US, she is in direct violation of US Immigration laws and they will cancel her F-1 student visa and deport her back to Canada. NCAA advises international students not to engage in NIL altogether, except for NILs in their home country. There is possibility she got international NIL from Canada and that is legal and allowed.

Every year, Uconn has avg 3 international students on their roster. An immigration lawyer at Uconn explained: "That legal gray area has made testing the waters in the NIL space for international players exceedingly difficult. Any school's international student and scholar service office is required by law to report confirmed violations of a student's F-1 visa to the Department of Homeland Security. The risks of engaging in unauthorized work for NIL opportunities in the US could prove dire and potentially include visa cancelation or placement in deportation proceedings."

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Vol Nation said she is getting NIL. That iwas also the word relayed to my friend on the circuit.

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Yep…can't imagine she went there for the tshirts. First year D1 coach…the third coach since the last NC in 2008
Hummmmm..maybe just likes the colors? $$$

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Curious as to why Vols fired Kelly Harper, as team was making deeper runs. I guess not quickly enough and the BMDs spoke up. Pat Summitt lost 208 games in 38 years, so I guess the bar is set a tad high.

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Vol Nation said she is getting NIL. That iwas also the word relayed to my friend on the circuit.

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Yep…can't imagine she went there for the tshirts. First year D1 coach…the third coach since the last NC in 2008
Hummmmm..maybe just likes the colors? $$$

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Curious as to why Vols fired Kelly Harper, as team was making deeper runs. I guess not quickly enough and the BMDs spoke up. Pat Summitt lost 208 games in 38 years, so I guess the bar is set a tad high.

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I guess they have been waiting a while, but Tennessee has proven to be no different than any other elite top-5 to 10 type program. When the HOF coach leaves or retires you take a dip and it takes time to rebuild to get back to that level if you ever do since the competition is way more widespread than what Pat had to face in her day when realistically there were only about 3 or 4 other teams you had to beat out to get to the top. They were there because of Pat not because the lettering on the jersey said Tennessee.

Well the Florida gulf coast women's basketball head coach stepped down in order to be the head coach for Atlanta dream. This means players can enter transfer portal within next 30 days, and players could play elsewhere in spring. I know the top 4 scorers over there are seniors at guard but not sure if any interest will occur or if the players really leave.

You are right on all that. Just reporting what I heard and read. Could certainly be wrong.

Yeah, sometimes fans don't disclose the whole thing. I have a feeling if she did sign NIL, it is with a NIL company in Canada that's gonna pay good $$. But she can't represent that NIL company until season is over, or during the off-season. That's what is happening with Last Tear Poa at LSU, she was declined by US Immigration. Sad coz international players should get paid too.

Did Marcayla Johnson sign with us yet? Today is first day of WBB signing period (Nov 13-20).

Oops sorry, update--Marcayla signed today at 3pm.

2025 WBB prospect Jaliya Davis, 6-2 F/C, Blue Valley North HS (Overland Park, KS), has announced her commitment to Kansas; her other finalists were Baylor, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas https://t.co/ti5KWJEYzg pic.twitter.com/91JnSQWQrB

—  Raoul (@Raoul_000) November 19, 2024

Well Utah head coach is gone. She left to la sparks.

Lynne Roberts Accepts Head Coach Position with WNBA’s L.A. Sparks; Gavin Petersen Named New @UtahWBB Head Coach

📰 https://t.co/Wab2EyUk8v#GoUtes pic.twitter.com/JdIIleFgq6

— Utah Athletics (@utahathletics) November 20, 2024

Welp…Is anyone left?

Not that I am aware of unless there is a Kayla Nelms like surprise but if there were I think they would have already committed. I hope they surprise me.

Only 3 left uncommitted in Top 100 class of 2025: Chavez, Makeer, and Parks. They're selecting other schools. Since Utah's head coach leaving, wonder if any of their 2025 commitments would decommit and go elsewhere. Or any player on their roster would transfer.

Utah does have a 2025 commit from San Antonio. It is PG Leonna Sneed. She is #26 recruit,

Time to find a few diamonds in the rough outside the top 100

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I disagree. We need to find some really great transfers.

Transfers are nice, relying on solely transfers hardly never works. Their rentals to fill gaps. That does no good when trying to build for the future. If we're unable to recruit/develop at all it's going to be incredibly hard to stay relevant.

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Transfers are nice, relying on solely transfers hardly never works. Their rentals to fill gaps. That does no good when trying to build for the future. If we're unable to recruit/develop at all it's going to be incredibly hard to stay relevant.

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I would tend to agree and this has certainly been true in the past, but I don't think enough years have yet passed to see the effect of the true NIL era on this. If you are really talking about high level programs to which we have been accustomed, NIL, if it gets ridiculous could lead to a situation where to retain the true impact players you either have to have the deepest of NIL pockets or a coach that truly is one players trust and respect. Many of those coaching today don't truly fit the bill to be able to keep all their horses in the stable from year to year. I think our's does, but I am in no position to truly know.

I saw a stat a few weeks ago. Wish I remember where that outlined % of players likely to transfer etc. basically players who were recruited by and committed to an original school were something like 60% less likely to transfer as compared to players who've already transferred once.
Obviously there's always outliers to every scenerio. But we're already seeing it with CNC. How many players that she's recruited out of HS have transferred out of BU? I can't think of any. But I could be missing someone.
Don't get me wrong, bringing in high level transfers to fill gaps is an absolute must. I just hope our primary focus is recruiting/retaining HS talent as building blocks. IMO Bella/DLB are the 2 foundational players we have now that can absolutely be built around/have been built around

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I saw a stat a few weeks ago. Wish I remember where that outlined % of players likely to transfer etc. basically players who were recruited by and committed to an original school were something like 60% less likely to transfer as compared to players who've already transferred once.
Obviously there's always outliers to every scenerio. But we're already seeing it with CNC. How many players that she's recruited out of HS have transferred out of BU? I can't think of any. But I could be missing someone.
Don't get me wrong, bringing in high level transfers to fill gaps is an absolute must. I just hope our primary focus is recruiting/retaining HS talent as building blocks. IMO Bella/DLB are the 2 foundational players we have now that can absolutely be built around/have been built around

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Unfortunately we only have them for one more year after this. So next year is critical.

I think another thing that makes it seem we are having trouble getting HS players is that back when KM was here there were so fewer schools that really were attractive to the top players (lets say top means the top 100). But now because of parity there are a lot more schools that those top 100 see as viable options.

The very top will still get their handful, but the rest seem to be getting split among a larger pool of schools that would have never been in the mix in the past because the top players now see them as options and for many of them they don't have to go so far from home to see a potential FF-type possibility. If this is the case then you are going to be getting hopefully one of those top players, but you end up with a lower tier player because the 100 have been blown by the wind to dozens of schools across the country. And that is where development comes into play.

Thanks Bear3. Also 4-star #49 G Hjelmstad from OK. And 4-star W Todd from IL. Strange Utah coach leaving during middle of signing period, after the 3 players already signed commitments.

I also think NIL is playing a big part in getting less high school recruits. Michael Motta said we cannot match the amount many BiG 10 and SEC schools are offering. He also said NIL plays a big part in most recruit's decisions. Also some recruits are choosing to stay close to home which is understandable.

I don't think there is any question that Nicki and staff can develop players. Look at Jana, Yaya, Kyla, Jada, Bella, Caitlin Bickle and even an elite player like Buggs. All are much better than they were when they came to Baylor.

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I also think NIL is playing a big part in getting less high school recruits. Michael Motta said we cannot match the amount many BiG 10 and SEC schools are offering. He also said NIL plays a big part in most recruit's decisions. Also some recruits are choosing to stay close to home which is understandable.

I don't think there is any question that Nicki and staff can develop players. Look at Jana, Yaya, Kyla, Jada, Bella, Caitlin Bickle and even an elite player like Buggs. All are much better than they were when they came to Baylor.

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While all are better, they are also older. I'm not convinced that CNC can develop a team at the college level. I think many of her players will be well suited for the WNBA, especially compared to Mulkey. But I've seen Baylor struggle at times to get the ball in the hoop. And I haven't seen a play she runs to incorporate the bigs down low to visually see the ball go in. Right now, she relies heavily on a dribble-drive offense. That works when you have a group of highly talented players like you do in the pros. I personally feel there is too much parity in regard to talent at the college level to successfully do that night in and night out. We also miss way too many layups. Like, way too many. And our defense isn't great. And we foul a lot. This team has plenty of time to grow and mesh, but I'm struggling to see the run we were all hoping for. Hope I'm wrong.

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I also think NIL is playing a big part in getting less high school recruits. Michael Motta said we cannot match the amount many BiG 10 and SEC schools are offering. He also said NIL plays a big part in most recruit's decisions. Also some recruits are choosing to stay close to home which is understandable.

I don't think there is any question that Nicki and staff can develop players. Look at Jana, Yaya, Kyla, Jada, Bella, Caitlin Bickle and even an elite player like Buggs. All are much better than they were when they came to Baylor.

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While all are better, they are also older. I'm not convinced that CNC can develop a team at the college level. I think many of her players will be well suited for the WNBA, especially compared to Mulkey. But I've seen Baylor struggle at times to get the ball in the hoop. And I haven't seen a play she runs to incorporate the bigs down low to visually see the ball go in. Right now, she relies heavily on a dribble-drive offense. That works when you have a group of highly talented players like you do in the pros. I personally feel there is too much parity in regard to talent at the college level to successfully do that night in and night out. We also miss way too many layups. Like, way too many. And our defense isn't great. And we foul a lot. This team has plenty of time to grow and mesh, but I'm struggling to see the run we were all hoping for. Hope I'm wrong.

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I think you may be selling her short, but we'll see. She has talked about most, if not all the things you mention, so I believe the mindset is there. While frustrating I saw plenty of missed layups with KM's players. But time will tell you may be correct. The improvement of Buggs and Bella from year 1 is visually significant. How much of that is age versus development, I am not qualified to say, but I don't even know how you tell the difference.

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I also think NIL is playing a big part in getting less high school recruits. Michael Motta said we cannot match the amount many BiG 10 and SEC schools are offering. He also said NIL plays a big part in most recruit's decisions. Also some recruits are choosing to stay close to home which is understandable.

I don't think there is any question that Nicki and staff can develop players. Look at Jana, Yaya, Kyla, Jada, Bella, Caitlin Bickle and even an elite player like Buggs. All are much better than they were when they came to Baylor.

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While all are better, they are also older. I'm not convinced that CNC can develop a team at the college level. I think many of her players will be well suited for the WNBA, especially compared to Mulkey. But I've seen Baylor struggle at times to get the ball in the hoop. And I haven't seen a play she runs to incorporate the bigs down low to visually see the ball go in. Right now, she relies heavily on a dribble-drive offense. That works when you have a group of highly talented players like you do in the pros. I personally feel there is too much parity in regard to talent at the college level to successfully do that night in and night out. We also miss way too many layups. Like, way too many. And our defense isn't great. And we foul a lot. This team has plenty of time to grow and mesh, but I'm struggling to see the run we were all hoping for. Hope I'm wrong.

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I think you may be selling her short, but we'll see. She has talked about most, if not all the things you mention, so I believe the mindset is there. While frustrating I saw plenty of missed layups with KM's players. But time will tell you may be correct. The improvement of Buggs and Bella from year 1 is visually significant. How much of that is age versus development, I am not qualified to say, but I don't even know how you tell the difference.

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You are not wrong in comparison to Kim's teams. But I also think they shot a lot more of them. I'd be curious of the layup percentages. Our offense right now just relies so much on the outside shot falling, and if it isn't, driving to the basket and creating. Wish there was more balance. I also don't think we have a player that can take over a game. We have good roll players, but we don't have the "x" factor player. Andy my comments before regarding development are just that, thoughts. And something I've had rummaging around in my head for the last two years. I am not sure Andrews has gotten better (granted, she's had injuries) and I'm not sure Caitlin got better outside of her just being able to play and gain court experience, which she never was able to do under Mulkey. And maybe it is more the transfer portal than CNC specifically, but I don't feel Blackwell improved at Baylor, and I'm not sure Edwards did either. Maybe players haven't had time to get comfortable with CNC's system, or maybe the portal players were bringing in don't mesh as well with her system as we hope (and suspect). Walker has been an exception, and I do feel Jana was starting to find her groove - but coming back as strong as before from an ACL injury is never a guarantee. It's probably a lot of things, I just feel that we shouldn't be struggling to find the bottom of the net against a team like Texas A&M Corpus Christi - especially if we're hoping to reach an Elite Eight. Also, what do I know - merely my thorughts three weeks into the season.

She can't recruit.

I know NIL plays a huge factor, but there is something else lacking behind the scenes.


Ever since Chloe left, recruiting has taken a huuuuge drop.


You can count Vonleh as a "great" pickup (although I think it was average-good). NC has struggled to get top recruits and that's very concerning.

She has enough on her resume at this point in WBB that should resonate with High School players and it just hasn't.

She may need to look at shaking up the staff and bringing in a proven recruiter/coach.

You also need to wait until the Florida transfer comes and plays too.

Somewhat true, but not totally true re: top HS recruits. Some coaches don't offer NIL's to top HS recruits before they arrive on campus. Kim at LSU secured #1 recruiting class again, 2nd time in 3 years, and her recruits didn't receive any NILs at LSU when they committed. Uconn didn't give NILs when their HS recruits committed. SC-e didn't either. Many times it's simply that the HS recruits want to play for that particular head coach, or that WBB program, or a chance to win a NC. Yes, top recruits probably receive NILs during or after their freshman year. Part of the NIL deal is that players exposure to social media, for marketing purposes.