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I'll not wade through the pissing match to see if anyone commented on it, but did anyone else think that Marwin had a pretty routine catch lined up before Springer went all Superman on the play?

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The biggest problem on that play was neither player could hear the other calling for the ball. We are lucky there was a catch made, and luckier that one or both weren't carted off with injuries.

http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/84018/who-should-you-root-for-in-the-world-series-we-have-some-ideas

Not a Baylor hit piece, so don't be scared.

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I'll not wade through the pissing match to see if anyone commented on it, but did anyone else think that Marwin had a pretty routine catch lined up before Springer went all Superman on the play?

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The biggest problem on that play was neither player could hear the other calling for the ball. We are lucky there was a catch made, and luckier that one or both weren't carted off with injuries.

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Typically, at least everywhere I played and or watched, the priorities for a fly ball start with the center fielder having complete control over everyone on the field and then moving in. The catch was Springer's to make and he should have called off the RF if he did not. The RF never calls off the CF in almost all cases.

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I'll not wade through the pissing match to see if anyone commented on it, but did anyone else think that Marwin had a pretty routine catch lined up before Springer went all Superman on the play?

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The biggest problem on that play was neither player could hear the other calling for the ball. We are lucky there was a catch made, and luckier that one or both weren't carted off with injuries.

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Typically, at least everywhere I played and or watched, the priorities for a fly ball start with the center fielder having complete control over everyone on the field and then moving in. The catch was Springer's to make and he should have called off the RF if he did not. The RF never calls off the CF in almost all cases.

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I'll not wade through the pissing match to see if anyone commented on it, but did anyone else think that Marwin had a pretty routine catch lined up before Springer went all Superman on the play?

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The biggest problem on that play was neither player could hear the other calling for the ball. We are lucky there was a catch made, and luckier that one or both weren't carted off with injuries.

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Typically, at least everywhere I played and or watched, the priorities for a fly ball start with the center fielder having complete control over everyone on the field and then moving in. The catch was Springer's to make and he should have called off the RF if he did not. The RF never calls off the CF in almost all cases.

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Sept Marwin plays LF

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So? As I said, it was Springer's, the CF, to make the play or not. He should have communicated with Marwin to move away.



oops, my bad. Yes, I said RF. Meant LF. It is Monday morning, give me a damn break!

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I'll not wade through the pissing match to see if anyone commented on it, but did anyone else think that Marwin had a pretty routine catch lined up before Springer went all Superman on the play?

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The biggest problem on that play was neither player could hear the other calling for the ball. We are lucky there was a catch made, and luckier that one or both weren't carted off with injuries.

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Typically, at least everywhere I played and or watched, the priorities for a fly ball start with the center fielder having complete control over everyone on the field and then moving in. The catch was Springer's to make and he should have called off the RF if he did not. The RF never calls off the CF in almost all cases.

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So? As I said, it was Springer's, the CF, to make the play or not. He should have communicated with Marwin to move away.



oops, my bad. Yes, I said RF. Meant LF. It is Monday morning, give me a damn break!

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Watched the replay, not hard to read Springer yelling "I got it! I got it! I got it!" as he came over.

Looks like the Astros may be the first franchise to have won both the NL and AL pennants.

It's hard to tell with the way organizations bounced around at the turn of the 20th century, but I can't find where one organization won the pennant from both leagues. Several cities are home to both AL & NL pennants but with different franchises.

The Brewers are the only organization that came close to doing it, winning the 1982 AL Pennant and came close to winning the NL Pennant in 2011, which they lost to the Cardinals.

There was an organization known as the "Baltimore Orioles" that won the NL in 1894, 1895 and 1896, but they were a separate organization from the AL club that came about much later.

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Looks like the Astros may be the first franchise to have won both the NL and AL pennants.

It's hard to tell with the way organizations bounced around at the turn of the 20th century, but I can't find where one organization won the pennant. Several cities are home to both AL & NL pennants but with different franchises.

The Brewers are the only organization that came close to doing it, winning the 1982 AL Pennant and came close to winning the NL Pennant in 2011, which they lost to the Cardinals.

There was an organization known as the "Baltimore Orioles" that won the NL in 1894, 1895 and 1896, but they were a separate organization from the AL club that came about much later.

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Definitely the first

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Looks like the Astros may be the first franchise to have won both the NL and AL pennants.

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Yogi, Appreciate your research very much!

Your post inspired a google moment for me

Astros: Historic AL / NL double

"In beating the Yankees in Saturday night's Game 7 of the ALCS, the Astros made history: They're the first team to advance to the World Series as members of both the National and American leagues.

You can thank Bud Selig, Drayton McLane and Jim Crane for that fun fact. McLane was the Astros' owner when they claimed the 2005 NL wild card and made it all the way to the Fall Classic, surviving an Albert Pujols moon shot in Game 5 of the NLCS to win the pennant. They were swept in four games by the Chicago White Sox, however.

By 2011, McLane was ready to sell the team, and Houston businessman Jim Crane purchased it for $680 million. But MLB's approval of the sale was contingent on the Astros moving from the NL to the AL, creating two 15-team leagues.

Crane agreed, but managed to strong-arm a discount out of the deal, as the sale price was cut to $615 million with the Astros suddenly in an AL West filled with undesirable start times for intra-division road games.

Six years later, the Astros are kings of the West - and the AL."

Link for this excerpt from the USA Today article
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/10/22/world-series-four-facts-make-astros-dodgers-clash-historic/788248001/

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Were you at all 3 clinching games? If so, you are a boss.

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Looks like the Astros may be the first franchise to have won both the NL and AL pennants.

It's hard to tell with the way organizations bounced around at the turn of the 20th century, but I can't find where one organization won the pennant. Several cities are home to both AL & NL pennants but with different franchises.

The Brewers are the only organization that came close to doing it, winning the 1982 AL Pennant and came close to winning the NL Pennant in 2011, which they lost to the Cardinals.

There was an organization known as the "Baltimore Orioles" that won the NL in 1894, 1895 and 1896, but they were a separate organization from the AL club that came about much later.

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Babe Ruth played for those Baltimore Orioles before they folded.

And yes, Astros are the first team to win both pennants.

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Yankee World Series tickets are real cheap now.

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"We're getting Yankees AL Champions T-shirts!!!"

Just an incredible Game 7. I went with my 12-year-old daughter, my Dad, and my father-in-law. My daughter now has a life long memory of the Astros winning a championship. I may have brainwashed her for life.

But it was so fun all night. I was in the building for Game 5 of the 2005 NLCS (the Pujols game) where the pennant slipped through our fingers. 12 years of "what ifs" are now somewhat easier to palate. All the Astros playoff games I've been to since 1997 have been fun, some more than others, but Game 7 is now #1 on my all time in person ranking in any sport, overtaking the Jeff Kent walk-off game in 2004 NLCS and 61-58 Baylor over TCU.

I can't wait for the World Series. I can't wait to see Altuve and Correa and Gurriel crush baseballs. I can't wait to see what Justin Verlander can do next.

I can't wait.

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Just an incredible Game 7. I went with my 12-year-old daughter, my Dad, and my father-in-law. My daughter now has a life long memory of the Astros winning a championship. I may have brainwashed her for life.

But it was so fun all night. I was in the building for Game 5 of the 2004 NLCS (the Pujols game) where the pennant slipped through our fingers. 12 years of "what ifs" are now somewhat easier to palate. All the Astros playoff games I've been to since 1997 have been fun, some more than others, but Game 7 is now #1 on my all time in person ranking in any sport, overtaking the Jeff Kent walk-off game in 2004 NLCS and 61-58 Baylor over TCU.

I can't wait for the World Series. I can't wait to see Altuve and Correa and Gurriel crush baseballs. I can't wait to see what Justin Verlander can do next.

I can't wait.

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Fify.

The media wasted zero time removing the Yankees *****es from their throats and inserting the Dodgers. I hope this this team feeds off that disrespect.

I'm excited, turned up to 11. This city has been through too much, and to see the faces of the mobs on Crawford made me shed a tear. I think we are ready for the coming war. We've waded through 2 very good pitching staffs and the Dodgers will be no different. Time to nut up and get a trophy.

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Just an incredible Game 7. I went with my 12-year-old daughter, my Dad, and my father-in-law. My daughter now has a life long memory of the Astros winning a championship. I may have brainwashed her for life.

But it was so fun all night. I was in the building for Game 5 of the 2004 NLCS (the Pujols game) where the pennant slipped through our fingers. 12 years of "what ifs" are now somewhat easier to palate. All the Astros playoff games I've been to since 1997 have been fun, some more than others, but Game 7 is now #1 on my all time in person ranking in any sport, overtaking the Jeff Kent walk-off game in 2004 NLCS and 61-58 Baylor over TCU.

I can't wait for the World Series. I can't wait to see Altuve and Correa and Gurriel crush baseballs. I can't wait to see what Justin Verlander can do next.

I can't wait.

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU200510170.shtml

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Just an incredible Game 7. I went with my 12-year-old daughter, my Dad, and my father-in-law. My daughter now has a life long memory of the Astros winning a championship. I may have brainwashed her for life.

But it was so fun all night. I was in the building for Game 5 of the 2004 NLCS (the Pujols game) where the pennant slipped through our fingers. 12 years of "what ifs" are now somewhat easier to palate. All the Astros playoff games I've been to since 1997 have been fun, some more than others, but Game 7 is now #1 on my all time in person ranking in any sport, overtaking the Jeff Kent walk-off game in 2004 NLCS and 61-58 Baylor over TCU.

I can't wait for the World Series. I can't wait to see Altuve and Correa and Gurriel crush baseballs. I can't wait to see what Justin Verlander can do next.

I can't wait.

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU200510170.shtml

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Nobody but Chicago robbed us in 2005

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_National_League_Championship_Series

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Just an incredible Game 7. I went with my 12-year-old daughter, my Dad, and my father-in-law. My daughter now has a life long memory of the Astros winning a championship. I may have brainwashed her for life.

But it was so fun all night. I was in the building for Game 5 of the 2004 NLCS (the Pujols game) where the pennant slipped through our fingers. 12 years of "what ifs" are now somewhat easier to palate. All the Astros playoff games I've been to since 1997 have been fun, some more than others, but Game 7 is now #1 on my all time in person ranking in any sport, overtaking the Jeff Kent walk-off game in 2004 NLCS and 61-58 Baylor over TCU.

I can't wait for the World Series. I can't wait to see Altuve and Correa and Gurriel crush baseballs. I can't wait to see what Justin Verlander can do next.

I can't wait.

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU200510170.shtml

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Nobody but Chicago robbed us in 2005

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_National_League_Championship_Series

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I was unsure what you were fixing in my post. I was talking about how Saturday night was the first time Astros fans went to a home game looking for a pennant since the Pujols game. I wasn't talking about the White Sox.

It looked like you thought the Pujols game happened in 2004. My mistake if that's not what you were implying.

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Looks like the Astros may be the first franchise to have won both the NL and AL pennants.

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Yogi, Appreciate your research very much!

Your post inspired a google moment for me

Astros: Historic AL / NL double

"In beating the Yankees in Saturday night's Game 7 of the ALCS, the Astros made history: They're the first team to advance to the World Series as members of both the National and American leagues.

You can thank Bud Selig, Drayton McLane and Jim Crane for that fun fact. McLane was the Astros' owner when they claimed the 2005 NL wild card and made it all the way to the Fall Classic, surviving an Albert Pujols moon shot in Game 5 of the NLCS to win the pennant. They were swept in four games by the Chicago White Sox, however.

By 2011, McLane was ready to sell the team, and Houston businessman Jim Crane purchased it for $680 million. But MLB's approval of the sale was contingent on the Astros moving from the NL to the AL, creating two 15-team leagues.

Crane agreed, but managed to strong-arm a discount out of the deal, as the sale price was cut to $615 million with the Astros suddenly in an AL West filled with undesirable start times for intra-division road games.

Six years later, the Astros are kings of the West - and the AL."

Link for this excerpt from the USA Today article
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/10/22/world-series-four-facts-make-astros-dodgers-clash-historic/788248001/

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The only problem is that I am a huge Rangers fan. That's not to say that I wasn't an Astro's fan growing up. The Rangers were my American League team and the Astros were my National League team. I was hoping beyond hope for a Rangers-Astros Texas World Series just a few years ago.

But, then they moved the Stros into the American League West. All of a sudden, I lost my interest in the Astros. No longer did they have the same rivals that I remembered watching the Stros play while growing up: the Cubs, the Cardinals, the Reds, etc. They had new uniforms, new owners and were now a direct rival to my Texas Rangers.

I hate that Major League Baseball forced brothers against one another and removed the National League entirely from the 2nd most populous state in the Union. Ohio can have a team in each league, Florida can have a team in each league, hell even freaking Missouri can have a team in each league - but Texas can't? And now the nearest NL franchise to Texas (outside minor league affiliates) is St. Louis!!!??? Seriously!!???

Here's an idea, MLB: give San Antonio that franchise it always wanted, throw it into the American League West and move the Astros back to the NL Central.

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Just an incredible Game 7. I went with my 12-year-old daughter, my Dad, and my father-in-law. My daughter now has a life long memory of the Astros winning a championship. I may have brainwashed her for life.

But it was so fun all night. I was in the building for Game 5 of the 2004 NLCS (the Pujols game) where the pennant slipped through our fingers. 12 years of "what ifs" are now somewhat easier to palate. All the Astros playoff games I've been to since 1997 have been fun, some more than others, but Game 7 is now #1 on my all time in person ranking in any sport, overtaking the Jeff Kent walk-off game in 2004 NLCS and 61-58 Baylor over TCU.

I can't wait for the World Series. I can't wait to see Altuve and Correa and Gurriel crush baseballs. I can't wait to see what Justin Verlander can do next.

I can't wait.

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU200510170.shtml

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Nobody but Chicago robbed us in 2005

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_National_League_Championship_Series

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I was unsure what you were fixing in my post. I was talking about how Saturday night was the first time Astros fans went to a home game looking for a pennant since the Pujols game. I wasn't talking about the White Sox.

It looked like you thought the Pujols game happened in 2004. My mistake if that's not what you were implying.

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No, that's my bad. Misread it.

For fun, go check out the stub hub prices for Minute Maid Park games in the WS. Pretty amazing.

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For fun, go check out the stub hub prices for Minute Maid Park games in the WS. Pretty amazing.

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Pathetic. Reserved only for the super rich now.

When the tickets went on sale, the cheapest was $200 (before taxes and fees). Stubhub ruins things.

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For fun, go check out the stub hub prices for Minute Maid Park games in the WS. Pretty amazing.

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Pathetic. Reserved only for the super rich now.

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True, and it sucks. I did picture the tickets higher, though.

Go 'Stros!

I remember the same thing in 2004 and 2005 (I still have an unplayed 2004 Astros World Series ticket stub). LDS tickets were 1x. LCS tickets were 2x. World Series tickets were 10x.

Same thing this year, although the LCS tickets were most like a 1.5x (upper decks were $100 for ALDS, $150 for ALCS). But the WS is back to being 10x. Crazy.

Occasionally a ticket will flash available at one of these three links. I almost snagged a Game 4 ticket at face value, but it disappeared before I could get it.

Game 3 -- Click Buy Now
Game 4
Game 5

Keep checking, and please report back here if any of us see availability. Thank you!

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For fun, go check out the stub hub prices for Minute Maid Park games in the WS. Pretty amazing.

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Or season tickets holders, which I am.

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That is awesome. What is your face value of your World Series tickets? What section?

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I have tickets to ALCS Game 7 - I plan on using them.

I now have tickets to World Series Houston Games 2 and 3 - I also plan on using them.

Go Astros!

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What sections are you in for Saturday/Sunday? And why didn't you also get Game 1 (World Series Game 3 on Friday)? Sold out for lottery winners or cost issue?

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How did you get season tickets that included World Series games? I was under the impression season tickets only covered the regular season.

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That is awesome. What is your face value of your World Series tickets? What section?

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Section 124, row 22, seats 5&6.

ALCS face value was $180. I only got game 4 bc I spilt the coat with another guy and he will go to game 3. Will tell you when i get the ticket.

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How did you get season tickets that included World Series games? I was under the impression season tickets only covered the regular season.

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My father-in-law is also a season ticket holder with some of his friends. They were not only offered their 4 seats in section 227, row 1 for every postseason game, but offered an option to buy 4 additional upper deck seats in section 425, row 11 for every postseason game. They said yes to both, and have had 8 seats to each game to share. That's why I got to go to ALDS Game 2, ALCS Game 2, and ALCS Game 7.

It's also the reason I just found out my father-in-law is inviting me to World Series Game 3. My first ever World Series game.

I'm trying to see about Games 4 and 5 still.

As a father of 2 kids in grade school with lots of weekday after-school activities to take them to, the fact that these home games have all occurred on the weekend has been huge.

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That is awesome. What is your face value of your World Series tickets? What section?

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Section 124, row 22, seats 5&6.

ALCS face value was $180. I only got game 4 bc I spilt the coat with another guy and he will go to game 3. Will tell you when i get the ticket.

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Holy crap, what seats! Congrats.

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That is awesome. What is your face value of your World Series tickets? What section?

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Section 124, row 22, seats 5&6.

ALCS face value was $180. I only got game 4 bc I spilt the coat with another guy and he will go to game 3. Will tell you when i get the ticket.

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Holy crap, what seats! Congrats.

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We used to sit there for about $15 3 years ago. My how far we've come.

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Or season tickets holders, which I am.

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That is awesome. What is your face value of your World Series tickets? What section?

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Section 124, row 22, seats 5&6.

ALCS face value was $180. I only got game 4 bc I spilt the coat with another guy and he will go to game 3. Will tell you when i get the ticket.

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Holy crap, what seats! Congrats.

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Wow, Valpo is right, I'm jealous of those seats. Great job!