For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Eat your cookie and go to bed .

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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God created a Hurricane and can't stop it?

There's your .005

Glad I could help

There's been a hurricane raging on Jupiter for at least 150 years. God must really be out of power on that planet, right? It's probably because all the Jupiterians are driving fossil fuel powered cars.

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.

D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.

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As best I can tell, for Waco it's apparently someone who believes in miracles and other supernatural events in the Bible - like Jesus actually rising from the dead and healing people. In other words, things that make God, God instead of a mere mortal man.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.

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As best I can tell, for Waco it's apparently someone who believes in miracles and other supernatural events in the Bible - like Jesus actually rising from the dead and healing people. In other words, things that make God, God instead of a mere mortal man.

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It's simpler than that .

The dude is simply bored out of his mind , trying to garner any kind of attention while the hours drag on waiting for the night nurse .

Does he not know how to play dominoes?

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Does God have the power to stop a hurricane? Yes.

Did you have any other questions?

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Science is commonly understood to be the study of nature. It follows that a scientist is one who studies nature. This means scientists have specific expertise in understanding nature based on observable/empirical data via the scientific method. This is the field of a scientist.

Now, God, is the creator of nature. It follows that God would be something other than nature, unless one wants to affirm incoherent statements like "nature existed before nature existed." Thus, one who studies nature (a scientist) is simply in the wrong field if they claim their credentials give them any special authority to speak about the existence or non-existence of anything other than nature (you might as well ask a plumber what they think).

The professor of logic at Oxford University, Dr. Timothy Williamson, asks the question: "Why can't there be things only discoverable by non-scientific means, or, not discoverable at all?"

If humans had never developed a sense of smell would it be logical to state that nothing has an odor? Would it be accurate?

Williamson reiterates the point: "It is not discoverable by hard science, that ALL truths are discoverable by hard science." Scientism fails its own test and therefore, it cannot be true. People who hold this illogical position lose all grounds for rejecting Christianity on an intellectual basis.

There you go, God can have power over physics and you cant prove otherwise.

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Let's alter scenarios, can God strike a heretical blasphemer such as yourself dead on the spot? Yes, has He spared you for now for reasons known but to Himself? It would appear so.

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Were you free to ask this question?

If you were, then you were able to move the molecules in your brain in order to formulate the thought and then move your muscles to type it into a computer, freely by your choice.

If you can do it, why can't God?

You need to first clarify what religion you're talking about. It must not be Christianity.

Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Science can tell us what is but never what ought to be - that entails philosophy and faith.

Pearls. Swines.

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Pearls. Swines.

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This. It's why I just poke them with a pointy stick.

Yet who would I trust more, '47 or a God who has allowed a fallen world to even exist?

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Yet who would I trust more, '47 or a God who has allowed a fallen world to even exist?

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We all fall. Thank God that He cares to help us rise again.

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You need to first clarify what religion you're talking about. It must not be Christianity.

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Exactly what have your Mom and Dad taught you about Christianity ?

Fre3dombear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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God created a Hurricane and can't stop it?

There's your .005

Glad I could help

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You beg the question. Can God create a hurricane? The answer is not "The Bible says so." Science says no.God cannot.

4th and Inches said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Science is commonly understood to be the study of nature. It follows that a scientist is one who studies nature. This means scientists have specific expertise in understanding nature based on observable/empirical data via the scientific method. This is the field of a scientist.

Now, God, is the creator of nature. Says who? Who said God created nature.It follows that God would be something other than nature, unless one wants to affirm incoherent statements like "nature existed before nature existed." Thus, one who studies nature (a scientist) is simply in the wrong field if they claim their credentials give them any special authority to speak about the existence or non-existence of anything other than nature (you might as well ask a plumber what they think).This sentence makes no sense. It an argument from silence.

The professor of logic at Oxford University, Dr. Timothy Williamson, asks the question: "Why can't there be things only discoverable by non-scientific means, or, not discoverable at all?"

If humans had never developed a sense of smell would it be logical to state that nothing has an odor? Would it be accurate?

Williamson reiterates the point: "It is not discoverable by hard science, that ALL truths are discoverable by hard science." Scientism fails its own test and therefore, it cannot be true. People who hold this illogical position lose all grounds for rejecting Christianity on an intellectual basis.

There you go, God can have power over physics and you cant prove otherwise.

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

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We progressives do not believe we can stop a hurricane. Your premise is faulty.

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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God created a Hurricane and can't stop it?

There's your .005

Glad I could help

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You beg the question. Can God create a hurricane? The answer is not "The Bible says so." Science says no.God cannot.

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There you have it. Waco worships Science and does not believe in God in any real way.

D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.

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A literalist believes the God of the Bible believes that can create or stop a hurricane. Science believes that idea is nonsensical

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Does God have the power to stop a hurricane? Yes.

Did you have any other questions?

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Yes, the second was explain your answer

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Were you free to ask this question?

If you were, then you were able to move the molecules in your brain in order to formulate the thought and then move your muscles to type it into a computer, freely by your choice.

If you can do it, why can't God?

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Sophistry at best. Free will and physical power are about two separate realms in spite of your assertion. You beg the question"how does prove God can create a hurricane?" "The Bible says so" is not an answer..

Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.

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A literalist believes the God of the Bible believes that can create or stop a hurricane. Science believes that idea is nonsensical

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A literalist is a person who adheres to the literal representation of a statement or law. A person who translates a text literally.

In some cases, I would be a literalist, in some cases I would not be a literalist, depending on the context of the text I was interpreting. However, being a literalist or not being a literalist is entirely unrelated to your question of whether God can stop a hurricane (or forgive sins or reach in to the natural world in the person of Jesus Christ), or even to the question of whether anything outside of nature actually exists.

Science doesn't "believe" anything. As a methodology of exploring the natural world, science is not capable of "belief" and is neither capable of describing anything outside the natural world nor of judging, based on science, whether anything outside the natural world is nonsensical.

You need to raise your game.

Waco1947 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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yes

Science is commonly understood to be the study of nature. It follows that a scientist is one who studies nature. This means scientists have specific expertise in understanding nature based on observable/empirical data via the scientific method. This is the field of a scientist.

Now, God, is the creator of nature. Says who? Who said God created nature.It follows that God would be something other than nature, unless one wants to affirm incoherent statements like "nature existed before nature existed." Thus, one who studies nature (a scientist) is simply in the wrong field if they claim their credentials give them any special authority to speak about the existence or non-existence of anything other than nature (you might as well ask a plumber what they think).This sentence makes no sense. It an argument from silence.

The professor of logic at Oxford University, Dr. Timothy Williamson, asks the question: "Why can't there be things only discoverable by non-scientific means, or, not discoverable at all?"

If humans had never developed a sense of smell would it be logical to state that nothing has an odor? Would it be accurate?

Williamson reiterates the point: "It is not discoverable by hard science, that ALL truths are discoverable by hard science." Scientism fails its own test and therefore, it cannot be true. People who hold this illogical position lose all grounds for rejecting Christianity on an intellectual basis.

There you go, God can have power over physics and you cant prove otherwise.

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who said God didnt, prove it. You are the skeptic/scientist who cant prove your own skepticism

You are the one that believes nature came into existence from nature as opposed to nature came into existence from God.

Just because you dont like the answer, the answer is still the answer.

Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

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We progressives do not believe we can stop a hurricane. Your premise is faulty.

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Do you believe you can stop drought? Stop wildfires in California? Stop tornadoes? So all this money you progressives want to extract from the American people is all about lowering the earth's average temperature by two degrees and selling electric cars? Elon Musk (the richest man in the world) thanks you.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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Were you free to ask this question?

If you were, then you were able to move the molecules in your brain in order to formulate the thought and then move your muscles to type it into a computer, freely by your choice.

If you can do it, why can't God?

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Sophistry at best. Free will and physical power are about two separate realms in spite of your assertion. You beg the question"how does prove God can create a hurricane?" "The Bible says so" is not an answer..

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Free will and physical power are NOT separate, because "will" comes from thought, and thought is a physical process in the brain.

If you have free will, it means what happens in your brain is by your choice, and is NOT determined by physics. If it is determined by physics, then you don't really have a choice. There's no way around this. Calling it "sophistry" only avoids the question.

So tell us - if you have free will/choice, by what power did the molecules in your brain move according to your choice, rather than according to physics?

Failure to answer will show you are in no position to claim that God can't stop a hurricaine.

Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.

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A literalist believes the God of the Bible believes that can create or stop a hurricane. Science believes that idea is nonsensical

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Science says the idea of god in general is nonsensical. So why do you purport to believe in that which science says is nonsensical?

Mothra said:

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Waco1947 said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.

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A literalist believes the God of the Bible believes that can create or stop a hurricane. Science believes that idea is nonsensical

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Science says the idea of god in general is nonsensical. So why do you purport to believe in that which science says is nonsensical?

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he uses an answer from silence.. God isnt real because science cant prove it. Absence of proof is not proof.

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Fre3dombear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.

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God created a Hurricane and can't stop it?

There's your .005

Glad I could help

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You beg the question. Can God create a hurricane? The answer is not "The Bible says so." Science says no.God cannot.

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Science has no right to yield an opinion. They cant prove God does or does not exist.

Only a fool thinks science can explain everything that happens in the universe.

Jesus spoke to the storm and it stopped.

God parted the Red Sea.

and, ahem…

God created the Heavens and the Earth

But OP doesn't believe the Bible, because he is his own god.

Here is more from the Almighty:



Job 38

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

2 "Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels shouted for joy?
8 "Who shut up the sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb,
9 when I made the clouds its garment
and wrapped it in thick darkness,
10 when I fixed limits for it
and set its doors and bars in place,
11 when I said, 'This far you may come and no farther;
here is where your proud waves halt'?
12 "Have you ever given orders to the morning,
or shown the dawn its place,
13 that it might take the earth by the edges
and shake the wicked out of it?
14 The earth takes shape like clay under a seal;
its features stand out like those of a garment.
15 The wicked are denied their light,
and their upraised arm is broken.
16 "Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
17 Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?
18 Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
Tell me, if you know all this.
19 "What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
20 Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
22 "Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
or seen the storehouses of the hail,
23 which I reserve for times of trouble,
for days of war and battle?
24 What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed,
or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?
25 Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain,
and a path for the thunderstorm,
26 to water a land where no one lives,
an uninhabited desert,
27 to satisfy a desolate wasteland
and make it sprout with grass?
28 Does the rain have a father?
Who fathers the drops of dew?
29 From whose womb comes the ice?
Who gives birth to the frost from the heavens
30 when the waters become hard as stone,
when the surface of the deep is frozen?
31 "Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades?
Can you loosen Orion's Belt?
32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons
or lead out the Bear with its cubs?
33 Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up God's dominion over the earth?
34 "Can you raise your voice to the clouds
and cover yourself with a flood of water?
35 Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
Do they report to you, 'Here we are'?
36 Who gives the ibis wisdom
or gives the rooster understanding?
37 Who has the wisdom to count the clouds?
Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens
38 when the dust becomes hard
and the clods of earth stick together?
39 "Do you hunt the prey for the lioness
and satisfy the hunger of the lions
40 when they crouch in their dens
or lie in wait in a thicket?
41 Who provides food for the raven
when its young cry out to God
and wander about for lack of food?