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screw that mic. He is just a meow. No balls. No respect.

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For someone who claims he's Republican, you sure do seem to hate them. Never heard you say a harsh word about a Democrat.

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M....find where I ever said I am a Republican, pls. I am on the record as a card carrying Independent, but vote mostly Rs, if they are not Trumpers. McCarthy is a meow , relative to his Trumps arse kissing. Eff him! Jim Jordan is the worst of the worst, btw. And that Matt G. is just as horrific. How R's can support these idiots, befuddles.

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What makes Jim Jordan 'worst of the worst ' ?

How is Matt G. 'horrific ' ?


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He's worst of the worst because he's an R of course.

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Though he’s had trouble securing universal Republican support, the leading contender for speaker of the House remains Kevin McCarthy, which is sad. Even the people pledging to vote for him know that he’s totally unqualified and unfit to be speaker.

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) January 3, 2023

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Uh. No.

Gosar and Gaetz colluding with AOC:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/why-aoc-was-talking-to-paul-gosar-and-matt-gaetz-on-the-house-floor/

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Gosar and Gaetz colluding with AOC:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/why-aoc-was-talking-to-paul-gosar-and-matt-gaetz-on-the-house-floor/

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AOC talked to Natty Review. Draw whatever inferences you will.

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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I am merely examining your complaint in light of your own conduct. You are mad that a small minority of Republicans are threatening to blow up the House if the Repubs continue to nominate McCarthy as speaker - a guy that they loathe.

And yet that is exactly what you and the NT's are doing. You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

Look, I understand why you would attempt to distinguish your conduct from the Freedom Caucus, as it doesn't paint a very flattering picture of you and the rest of the NT's. But if you were honest, the comparisons are very apropos. As I have maintained for some time, you guys are blind to how much you share in common.

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screw that mic. He is just a meow. No balls. No respect.

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For someone who claims he's Republican, you sure do seem to hate them. Never heard you say a harsh word about a Democrat.

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M....find where I ever said I am a Republican, pls. I am on the record as a card carrying Independent, but vote mostly Rs, if they are not Trumpers. McCarthy is a meow , relative to his Trumps arse kissing. Eff him! Jim Jordan is the worst of the worst, btw. And that Matt G. is just as horrific. How R's can support these idiots, befuddles.

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So, you are a card-carrying independent (wait a second, you guys have cards?) that votes mostly Rs, despite only ever complaining about and hating Rs?

Weird. Are you a masochist?

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I'm an Independent thinker, unlike a bunch of fools up in here . You included

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I hate to be the contrarian, but I have to disagree that you are much of a thinker at all, if your posts are any indication. They are generally among the most ill-informed on this board. You reminde me of grandpa from the Simpsons. Most of the time you don't even know what you're angry and yelling about.

In short, you don't think much at all.

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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McCarthy is terribly ineffective, and his voting record leaves much to be desired. I don't politically line up at all with the Freedom Caucus, but McCarthy doesn't inspire at all.

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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McCarthy is terribly ineffective, and his voting record leaves much to be desired. I don't politically line up at all with the Freedom Caucus, but McCarthy doesn't inspire at all.

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Who are you guys going to elect?

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Mothra said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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McCarthy is terribly ineffective, and his voting record leaves much to be desired. I don't politically line up at all with the Freedom Caucus, but McCarthy doesn't inspire at all.

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Who are you guys going to elect?

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Last time I checked, I wasn't elected to congress. Bummer, I know.

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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McCarthy is terribly ineffective, and his voting record leaves much to be desired. I don't politically line up at all with the Freedom Caucus, but McCarthy doesn't inspire at all.

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Who are you guys going to elect?

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Last time I checked, I wasn't elected to congress. Bummer, I know.

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Just making polite conversation.
Who's your preferred candidate?

Another negative of small majorities. The crazies can control agendas.

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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Another negative of small majorities. The crazies can control agendas.

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Yup.

Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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McCarthy is terribly ineffective, and his voting record leaves much to be desired. I don't politically line up at all with the Freedom Caucus, but McCarthy doesn't inspire at all.

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Who are you guys going to elect?

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Last time I checked, I wasn't elected to congress. Bummer, I know.

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Just making polite conversation.
Who's your preferred candidate?

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I like Scalise. Has given his blood (literally), sweat and tears, is a hard-nosed conservative willing to fight for conservative causes, and is well-liked by people on both sides of the aisle.

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

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That you and the NT's share the exact same attributes and are doing the same thing as the minority of Republicans you in Congress you've complained about. The rigidity and willingness to blow it up, as expressed in your last post, is my case in point.

Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

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That you and the NT's share the exact same attributes and are doing the same thing as the minority of Republicans you in Congress you've complained about. The rigidity and willingness to blow it up, as expressed in your last post, is my case in point.

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Not guilty & not even close
You guys just aren't meant to govern, just complain

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

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That you and the NT's share the exact same attributes and are doing the same thing as the minority of Republicans you in Congress you've complained about. The rigidity and willingness to blow it up, as expressed in your last post, is my case in point.

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You guys just aren't meant to govern, just complain

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Lol. From the guy whose preferred candidate for Speaker could not get the votes after three attempts.

“What if the alternative to McCarthy is worse?”

Then it’s an earned indictment of the GOP. It’s proof the party would rather force-feed people trash than do better. And if that’s the case, then it should happen, and people should reckon with it.

— Pedro L. Gonzalez (@emeriticus) January 3, 2023

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

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That you and the NT's share the exact same attributes and are doing the same thing as the minority of Republicans you in Congress you've complained about. The rigidity and willingness to blow it up, as expressed in your last post, is my case in point.

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Not guilty & not even close
You guys just aren't meant to govern, just complain

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Thou protests too much. It's spot on and you know it. Projecting won't change that.

McCarthy, who says there is no scenario where he will drop out, told me he spoke to Trump tonight. Says Trump still supports him. Says Trump is concerned about how it looks because “it doesn’t look good for Republicans.” pic.twitter.com/3jZBBSJUhs

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 4, 2023

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I know this is really going to make some of you guys not sure how to get up tomorrow, but this seems to have nothing to do with Trump despite the TDS tendency to blame the price of tea in China on him.

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It's got everything to do with Trump. These clowns aren't competing to be the next Bob Dole.

Libertarian Amash says put me in coach

We need the leadership & tools to stop the swamp from crushing the American people. #StandUpForAmerica https://t.co/U89yWDDl9s

— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) January 3, 2023

Weeks ago, we saw the Senate GOP led by Mitch McConnell steamroll the American people with a bloated $1.7 TRILLION dollar omnibus

We have to change our ways or we will not survive. pic.twitter.com/3Ndu1Npbn2

— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) January 4, 2023

No words needed - Just two pictures which should disqualify him! pic.twitter.com/vX9IRARSNl

— 🇺🇸ProudArmyBrat (@leslibless) January 3, 2023

"Explain to me how what we've been doing is working."

The status quo must change, period. pic.twitter.com/gNTqCuTS5z

— Rep. Chip Roy Press Office (@RepChipRoy) January 4, 2023

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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do you live in Texas?

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

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That you and the NT's share the exact same attributes and are doing the same thing as the minority of Republicans you in Congress you've complained about. The rigidity and willingness to blow it up, as expressed in your last post, is my case in point.

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You guys just aren't meant to govern, just complain

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Lol. From the guy whose preferred candidate for Speaker could not get the votes after three attempts.

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I don't have a preferred candidate. It's your party and your **** show.

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

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That you and the NT's share the exact same attributes and are doing the same thing as the minority of Republicans you in Congress you've complained about. The rigidity and willingness to blow it up, as expressed in your last post, is my case in point.

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You guys just aren't meant to govern, just complain

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Lol. From the guy whose preferred candidate for Speaker could not get the votes after three attempts.

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I don't have a preferred candidate. It's your party and your **** show.

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Then stop complaining that a handful of conservative insurgents are standing against Kevin McCarthy. Not your fight.

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

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You are a small minority of vocal Republicans who, instead of coming together for the good of the party and attempting to find a way to co-exist, are instead either outright supporting Democrats or at the very least financially supporting candidates who attempt to get Dems elected because you loathe the potential Republican nominee for president. In short, like the Freedom Caucus, you are small minority that is willing to blow up the party if you don't get your nominee.

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I'm not a Republican and I don't give a damn about your party or the other party. I am Never Trump & I'll be voting in the Republican primary. I'll support a Democrat when you guys nominate a Paxton or someone similar.
I probably am a small minority so why do you care?

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Case in point, right here. Call yourself whatever you want, but you just made my case for me.

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What case? I might plead guilty?

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That you and the NT's share the exact same attributes and are doing the same thing as the minority of Republicans you in Congress you've complained about. The rigidity and willingness to blow it up, as expressed in your last post, is my case in point.

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You guys just aren't meant to govern, just complain

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Lol. From the guy whose preferred candidate for Speaker could not get the votes after three attempts.

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I don't have a preferred candidate. It's your party and your **** show.

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Then stop complaining that a handful of conservative insurgents are standing against Kevin McCarthy. Not your fight.

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Who's complaining? You guys caught the bus and Gaetz/Boebert are running the show.

All but two McCarthy defectors in House are election deniers
The tally reflects the degree to which Republicans who reject or question the 2020 results dominate the GOP caucus
The tally reflects the degree to which election deniers dominate the House Republican caucus, accounting for more than three-quarters of the 222-person conference. A significant majority of McCarthy's 202 votes 157 came from election deniers. But with Republicans holding only a slender majority, any Republican seeking to lead the House must garner near-unanimous support from the caucus's deniers in order to succeed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/03/mccarthy-defectors-election-deniers/

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Screw it- just vote Jefferies in and be done.. clown car full of morons

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Clowns Debate Who Will Be Elected Next King Of The Clowns
WASHINGTON, D.C. According to reports, a group of clowns has gathered at the Capitol Building to debate over who should be the next king over all the clowns.
"Ok guys, quit clowning around!" said Clown Dan Crenshaw as he attempted to calm down the other clowns. "It's time to get down to clown business and figure out which clown should be Top Clown! Stop laughing guys, this is serious!"
Crenshaw then "honked" a giant red nose on his face and made a sad face.
Bob Latta, the honorable clown from the state of Ohio, concurred. "Kevin McCarthy is the right clown to be king of us clowns," he said. "Let's meet the clown challenges we were elected to tackle and get this clownery done for the United States of America." Latta then dove off a tall diving board into a tiny pool.
At publishing time, voting was further delayed after a clown brawl broke out.
https://babylonbee.com/news/clowns-debate-who-will-be-elected-next-king-of-the-clowns

Why is McCarthy so chosen if he cannot get the votes? Just another status quo loving spendaholic. I think de Centex just loves to moan and complain.

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Why is McCarthy so chosen if he cannot get the votes? Just another status quo loving spendaholic. I think de Centex just loves to moan and complain.

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he's a Exhibit A for the unreasonable moderate dynamic I've described in this an another thread.

Here, we see a Fellow at the neverTrump Journal commenting much like I have on this situation:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-gop-house-infighting-is-fine/

This is no big deal. Eventually, someone will be elected speaker. Then the spending will begin. Until then, enjoy the show.

NYTimes:
The paralysis underscored the dilemma facing House Republicans: No matter the concessions made to some of those on the far right, they simply will not relent and join their colleagues even if it is for the greater good of their party, and perhaps the nation. They consider themselves conservative purists who cannot be placated unless all their demands are met and maybe not even then. Their agenda is mostly to defund, disrupt and dismantle government, not to participate in it.