Gridlock

You love to see it

I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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C. Jordan said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Second ballot
19 Rs vote against McCarthy
Jeffries 212
McCarthy 203
Jordan 19

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McCathy debased himself before Trump for nothing.

As in so many interactions with Trump, it benefitted Trump and didn't benefit the other at all.

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You don't often speak truly - but this is completely true. If the GOP had nutted up and just expunged that scum and his ilk, they'd be in charge of Congress right now.

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lol a GOP without MAGA would not be a majority party.

There is no national voting base for a rehash of Bush-Cheney republicanism.

I keep this saved in my favorites pic.twitter.com/27Srhf6Ucq

— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) December 31, 2022

"There is zero electorate for the socially liberal / fiscal conservative. It does not exist. No matter how much the RNC wants it to"

I know this is really going to make some of you guys not sure how to get up tomorrow, but this seems to have nothing to do with Trump despite the TDS tendency to blame the price of tea in China on him.

Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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180+ Republican House members voted for McCarthy. That means approximately 42 did not vote for him. Less than 25% of the Republican conference will dictate to the majority.

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To be fair, that's exactly what the Never Trumpers did in 2020 and 2022, is it not?

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In the election of a Speaker?

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I was referring to your consternation that a minority of Republicans are trying to dictate to the majority regarding who should be leader. Wouldn't that same adage aptly apply to the Never Trumpers - a small minority of the Republican Party attempting to hold the majority hostage by threatening in essence to burn the house down if Trump (or his candidates) are either nominated or elected?

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You are comparing the voting patterns of moderate Republican and Independents to 19 Republicans in a Speaker election. They are vastly different things.
I don't care if you guys block McCarthy. He made the trip to Mar a Lago to kiss the ring after Jan 6. He has been rolled by the so-called Freedom Caucus; what will liberals do to him?
In the general election moderates and Independents aren't blocking the election of an executive branch officer, they're just not voting for your preferred candidate. I'm not holding anyone hostage for my vote. You guys nominate candidates and I'll consider them. I'm not asking for anything.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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Agree. I don't care one way or another about Kevin McCarthy, but who is the alternative?

There is more to governing than just saying "no" to everything.

I thought that Gohmert leaving would raise the IQ of the Republican caucus. I was wrong. Jordan, who claims he doesn't want the office, gained 1 vote to 20 total

Third Vote for Speaker Concludes Without a Winner

Members will take successive votes until someone secures the majority needed to prevail. Representative Kevin McCarthy, the party leader, fell short in a third vote as 20 Republicans rejected his bid and backed Jim Jordan of Ohio.

fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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Agree. I don't care one way or another about Kevin McCarthy, but who is the alternative?

There is more to governing than just saying "no" to everything.

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Powerline said gridlock is almost as good as Constitutional governance. I hope nothing, including a budget, comes to the floor of the House until the federal government learns to live on $3.5 trillion a year or less. Trillion dollar deficits are now the norm and that is unacceptable.

He Hate Me said:

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fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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Agree. I don't care one way or another about Kevin McCarthy, but who is the alternative?

There is more to governing than just saying "no" to everything.

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Powerline said gridlock is almost as good as Constitutional governance. I hope nothing, including a budget, comes to the floor of the House until the federal government learns to live on $3.5 trillion a year or less. Trillion dollar deficits are now the norm and that is unacceptable.

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Let Hunter run wild

Osodecentx said:

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I thought that Gohmert leaving would raise the IQ of the Republican caucus. I was wrong. Jordan, who claims he doesn't want the office, gained 1 vote to 20 total

Third Vote for Speaker Concludes Without a Winner

Members will take successive votes until someone secures the majority needed to prevail. Representative Kevin McCarthy, the party leader, fell short in a third vote as 20 Republicans rejected his bid and backed Jim Jordan of Ohio.

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Keep voting. All Kevin McCarthy has to do is nominate and back Steve Scalise.

Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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Agree. I don't care one way or another about Kevin McCarthy, but who is the alternative?

There is more to governing than just saying "no" to everything.

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Powerline said gridlock is almost as good as Constitutional governance. I hope nothing, including a budget, comes to the floor of the House until the federal government learns to live on $3.5 trillion a year or less. Trillion dollar deficits are now the norm and that is unacceptable.

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Let Hunter run wild

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As opposed to a meaningless investigation

He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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Agree. I don't care one way or another about Kevin McCarthy, but who is the alternative?

There is more to governing than just saying "no" to everything.

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Powerline said gridlock is almost as good as Constitutional governance. I hope nothing, including a budget, comes to the floor of the House until the federal government learns to live on $3.5 trillion a year or less. Trillion dollar deficits are now the norm and that is unacceptable.

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Let Hunter run wild

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As opposed to a meaningless investigation

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Your idea, not mine

He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I thought that Gohmert leaving would raise the IQ of the Republican caucus. I was wrong. Jordan, who claims he doesn't want the office, gained 1 vote to 20 total

Third Vote for Speaker Concludes Without a Winner

Members will take successive votes until someone secures the majority needed to prevail. Representative Kevin McCarthy, the party leader, fell short in a third vote as 20 Republicans rejected his bid and backed Jim Jordan of Ohio.

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Keep voting. All Kevin McCarthy has to do is nominate and back Steve Scalise.

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Okay.
Send In the Clowns

fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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Agree. I don't care one way or another about Kevin McCarthy, but who is the alternative?

There is more to governing than just saying "no" to everything.

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Exactly - what do these idiots think they will accomplish other than more bad press that shows the GOP for the dysfunction it is ... no wonder the Republican Senate did not trust them.

The problem is there is a polity and process. You don't like McCarthy, fine, vote him out as Minority Leader, Whip, etc. Run a viable candidate six years ago. You do not start assuming the majority of Congress this way.

The Democrats probably have more idiots in the House, but at least their idiots know how to follow orders and goosestep behind the Establishment.

Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I thought that Gohmert leaving would raise the IQ of the Republican caucus. I was wrong. Jordan, who claims he doesn't want the office, gained 1 vote to 20 total

Third Vote for Speaker Concludes Without a Winner

Members will take successive votes until someone secures the majority needed to prevail. Representative Kevin McCarthy, the party leader, fell short in a third vote as 20 Republicans rejected his bid and backed Jim Jordan of Ohio.

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Keep voting. All Kevin McCarthy has to do is nominate and back Steve Scalise.

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Okay.
Send In the Clowns

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Too late for that when the majority is slim and leadership weak.

Screw it- just vote Jefferies in and be done.. clown car full of morons

He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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I thought that Gohmert leaving would raise the IQ of the Republican caucus. I was wrong. Jordan, who claims he doesn't want the office, gained 1 vote to 20 total

Third Vote for Speaker Concludes Without a Winner

Members will take successive votes until someone secures the majority needed to prevail. Representative Kevin McCarthy, the party leader, fell short in a third vote as 20 Republicans rejected his bid and backed Jim Jordan of Ohio.

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Keep voting. All Kevin McCarthy has to do is nominate and back Steve Scalise.

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Okay.
Send In the Clowns

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Too late for that when the majority is slim and leadership weak.

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Yep

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Screw it- just vote Jefferies in and be done.. clown car full of morons

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Republicans are just happier on the outside yelling at everyone

It's rather pathetic to watch Democrats and leftists gloating about the fact that the Republican Party seems to still allow for a tiny amount of dissent and debate while their own party is an absolute authoritarian borg that demands lockstep allegiance from its members.

— Shant Mesrobian (@ShantMM) January 3, 2023

"Ha ha their party has a populist faction that is effective at challenging establishment leadership and extracting concessions. What losers! Pass the popcorn amirite?"

— Shant Mesrobian (@ShantMM) January 3, 2023

fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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Agree. I don't care one way or another about Kevin McCarthy, but who is the alternative?

There is more to governing than just saying "no" to everything.

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Blocking McCarthy is an end in and of itself. It is a complete disruption of long term planning by the establishment and K Street. The alternative doesn’t matter. Beating McCarthy does.

— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) January 3, 2023

Rep. @MattGaetz on opposing Kevin McCarthy for House Speaker: “If you want to drain the swamp, you cannot put the biggest alligator in charge of the exercise.” pic.twitter.com/2hPDMF1RqB

— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) January 3, 2023

The Republican holdouts not supporting Kevin McCarthy for Speaker may feel outnumbered in DC & the media, but they are the only representatives standing up for *tens of millions* of American Patriots that demand change in DC

Doing big things has never been easy

Proud of them!

— Rogan O’Handley (@DC_Draino) January 3, 2023

Sources expect support for Jim Jordan to grow in Round 3 of the Speaker vote

If it does, it could create a cascade effect…

— Rogan O’Handley (@DC_Draino) January 3, 2023

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J.R. said:

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J.R. said:

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screw that mic. He is just a meow. No balls. No respect.

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For someone who claims he's Republican, you sure do seem to hate them. Never heard you say a harsh word about a Democrat.

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M....find where I ever said I am a Republican, pls. I am on the record as a card carrying Independent, but vote mostly Rs, if they are not Trumpers. McCarthy is a meow , relative to his Trumps arse kissing. Eff him! Jim Jordan is the worst of the worst, btw. And that Matt G. is just as horrific. How R's can support these idiots, befuddles.

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So, you are a card-carrying independent (wait a second, you guys have cards?) that votes mostly Rs, despite only ever complaining about and hating Rs?

Weird. Are you a masochist?

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I'm an Independent thinker, unlike a bunch of fools up in here . You included

🚨 BREAKING: House adjourns until noon tomorrow without a Speaker after Kevin McCarthy fails in a third round of voting.

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 3, 2023

Canada2017 said:

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J.R. said:

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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screw that mic. He is just a meow. No balls. No respect.

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For someone who claims he's Republican, you sure do seem to hate them. Never heard you say a harsh word about a Democrat.

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M....find where I ever said I am a Republican, pls. I am on the record as a card carrying Independent, but vote mostly Rs, if they are not Trumpers. McCarthy is a meow , relative to his Trumps arse kissing. Eff him! Jim Jordan is the worst of the worst, btw. And that Matt G. is just as horrific. How R's can support these idiots, befuddles.

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What makes Jim Jordan 'worst of the worst ' ?

How is Matt G. 'horrific ' ?


( honest questions )

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they are the far right fringe. they are NO different than Bernie and Squad. Period. Scary people. Who in the eff elected these people? MG is nothing but a perv!

There is a lot on the line for McCarthy's handlers, who are absolutely seething right now. The fact that these people are that shook says a lot about the situation.

— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) January 3, 2023

The Freedom Caucus knows that the establishment is so weak they have no back up plan for Speaker. They don't have the spine to deviate from that plan & Freedom Caucus only loses by backing down. This is a gross miscalculation by McCarthy & Co & shows how bad the GOP is right now.

— Tyler Bowyer (@tylerbowyer) January 3, 2023

In negotiations with McCarthy, he has already refused to a vote on term limits, a balanced budget, and a border plan that the Texas delegation put together.

Betrayal has already begun by McCarthy.

— The Patriot Hammer (@patriot_hammer) January 3, 2023

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Rep. @MattGaetz on opposing Kevin McCarthy for House Speaker: “If you want to drain the swamp, you cannot put the biggest alligator in charge of the exercise.” pic.twitter.com/2hPDMF1RqB

— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) January 3, 2023

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I heard him "speak". He can't string two coherent sentences together. What a dunce.

My only hope is DeSantis gets elected in 24 and brings the whip to these kindergarten children.

A big debate in the House! How egregious!
It is time the position meant something. Now it will have to be someone who can "get things done" to get voted in, be it McCarthy or anyone else. They now have to really earn it.

Gotta give Dems credit for sticking together. The Republican House is acting lie a bunch of mean girls at a junior high slumber party. If they f*** this up, I will throw my already meaningless vote away on the almost anonymous Libertarian candidates going forward.

The reality is Rep. Kevin McCarthy doesn’t have the votes. I committed my support to him publicly and for two votes on the House Floor. 218 is the number, and currently, no one is there. Our conference needs to recess and huddle and find someone or work out the next steps…(1/3)

— Congressman Byron Donalds (@RepDonaldsPress) January 3, 2023

J.R. said:

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Canada2017 said:

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J.R. said:

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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screw that mic. He is just a meow. No balls. No respect.

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For someone who claims he's Republican, you sure do seem to hate them. Never heard you say a harsh word about a Democrat.

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M....find where I ever said I am a Republican, pls. I am on the record as a card carrying Independent, but vote mostly Rs, if they are not Trumpers. McCarthy is a meow , relative to his Trumps arse kissing. Eff him! Jim Jordan is the worst of the worst, btw. And that Matt G. is just as horrific. How R's can support these idiots, befuddles.

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What makes Jim Jordan 'worst of the worst ' ?

How is Matt G. 'horrific ' ?


( honest questions )

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they are the far right fringe. they are NO different than Bernie and Squad. Period. Scary people. Who in the eff elected these people? MG is nothing but a perv!

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What has MG done that makes him a perv ?

Though he’s had trouble securing universal Republican support, the leading contender for speaker of the House remains Kevin McCarthy, which is sad. Even the people pledging to vote for him know that he’s totally unqualified and unfit to be speaker.

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) January 3, 2023

Canada2017 said:

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J.R. said:

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Canada2017 said:

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J.R. said:

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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screw that mic. He is just a meow. No balls. No respect.

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For someone who claims he's Republican, you sure do seem to hate them. Never heard you say a harsh word about a Democrat.

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M....find where I ever said I am a Republican, pls. I am on the record as a card carrying Independent, but vote mostly Rs, if they are not Trumpers. McCarthy is a meow , relative to his Trumps arse kissing. Eff him! Jim Jordan is the worst of the worst, btw. And that Matt G. is just as horrific. How R's can support these idiots, befuddles.

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What makes Jim Jordan 'worst of the worst ' ?

How is Matt G. 'horrific ' ?


( honest questions )

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they are the far right fringe. they are NO different than Bernie and Squad. Period. Scary people. Who in the eff elected these people? MG is nothing but a perv!

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What has MG done that makes him a perv ?

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These same people claim trump is some "far Right". No apologist for trump and won't be voting for him in 2024'ifnhes still alive, but that's insane

Harrison Bergeron said:

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I honestly do not understand the hate toward McCarthy. What is to be won not voting for him when there is not a viable alterative. The GOP needs to lean that while every Republican may not be "perfect" in another's eyes still better than a Democrat election-denying radical.

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IF the 5 hold firm, sensible people will eventually acknowledge McCarthy is not viable. Then the search begins for someone who is.

There are alternatives. All it takes is for moderates to be moderate and sensible and all that stuff, to be smarter than the cow.

Let the process play out. Somebody will cave. Eventually. In the meantime, no money will be spent. Relax. Enjoy the show.