House Speaker Vote

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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.

In Tx, there is no party registration, and primaries are open to all voters. If you vote in a GOP primary, you are defined as a Republican. If you vote in a Democrat primary, you are deemed a Democrat.

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Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?
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He Hate Me said:

Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?


He has totally lost the "outsider energy" he had in 2016
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Jack Bauer
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And this m-f'er finished 2nd in the vote...

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boognish_bear said:




Congrats *******s. You just cost us the elections in 2024 with that lovers tweet.
HuMcK
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Oh, just wait until McCarthy's new puppet masters shut downt the government and threaten/cause a default. 2yrs of the circus act that's about to happen is probably worth at least 2% in favor of the generic Dem in 2024 polling.
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Redbrickbear said:




Anyone who still criticizes the 20 true conservatives who forced these monumental changes, is anti-American.
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Jack Bauer said:

And this m-f'er finished 2nd in the vote...


I thought we universally agreed election deniers were a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY and should be removed from committees and leadership?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

And this m-f'er finished 2nd in the vote...


I thought we universally agreed election deniers were a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY and should be removed from committees and leadership?


When merit means nothing you get this man, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Justice Brown.
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Glad Keven McCarty finally became Speaker of the House .

He had to made some concessions to the more conservative wing of the party but it was past time to stop looking like a bunch of bickering school kids and move forward.
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Mothra
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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.


So I guess the answer is yes, you feel calling other people Republicans is a put down or a zing. Lol.

It makes no difference to me what you call me. If you want to call me a Republican to make you feel better about your own choices, so be it. I don't look at that as an insult, but then again, I'm not a deranged NT.

Yes, I will always vote for the more conservative candidate over the liberal counterpart. Anyone who calls themselves conservative and votes (or doesn't vote) in a way that gets liberals elected is a buffoon. One would've thought the last two years would've taught you that lesson but apparently you're a slow learner.
No, I don't think calling someone a Republican or Democrat is a zinger. It is interesting that your interpret "your party" as a zinger or an insult. You always vote Republican but consider it an insult if some anonymous poster references your party. It isn't an insult; it is an accurate description

i voted for Trump twice; never again. Biden is terrible, but hasn't talked about terminating parts of the Constitution or encouraged people to attack the Capitol. That is a disqualification from holding federal office. I'll be voting in the Republican primary for one of the good candidates that will be running.

From your posts I believe you are a Christian. I know I am. I cringe when some of the posters here define Christianity for the rest of us because some have eccentric beliefs about what Christians believe. Aren't you glad they don't define Christianity for the rest of us. Likewise, I cringe when you try to define "conservative" for the rest of us. Your beliefs concerning conservatism are not the final word on the subject (thankfully). You are listening to your conscience and I respect that. I'm listening to mine and will vote accordingly.


I don't believe "Republican" is a zinger. I thought that's what you believe given the way you're disparagingly flinging around the label, which is why I asked.

Let's be honest - your issue with me is not how I define conservative. I suspect you'd have difficulty identifying more than a handful of conservative issues with which you disagree with me. In truth, where we diverge is that you - like the MAGA republicans who couldn't bring themselves to vote for McCarthy - would rather see the party burn to the ground than see a MAGA candidate win or have a position of leadership in the party. You'd rather the democrat win than see that. I believe your rigidity and inability to compromise - just like MAGA's the last few days - is bad for conservatism. That's why I called your consternation at the MAGA repubs the last few days so incredibly ironic.

Neither of us want Trump. The difference between us is you'd rather burn down the house (and the country in the process) than see trump win.
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.


So I guess the answer is yes, you feel calling other people Republicans is a put down or a zing. Lol.

It makes no difference to me what you call me. If you want to call me a Republican to make you feel better about your own choices, so be it. I don't look at that as an insult, but then again, I'm not a deranged NT.

Yes, I will always vote for the more conservative candidate over the liberal counterpart. Anyone who calls themselves conservative and votes (or doesn't vote) in a way that gets liberals elected is a buffoon. One would've thought the last two years would've taught you that lesson but apparently you're a slow learner.
No, I don't think calling someone a Republican or Democrat is a zinger. It is interesting that your interpret "your party" as a zinger or an insult. You always vote Republican but consider it an insult if some anonymous poster references your party. It isn't an insult; it is an accurate description

i voted for Trump twice; never again. Biden is terrible, but hasn't talked about terminating parts of the Constitution or encouraged people to attack the Capitol. That is a disqualification from holding federal office. I'll be voting in the Republican primary for one of the good candidates that will be running.

From your posts I believe you are a Christian. I know I am. I cringe when some of the posters here define Christianity for the rest of us because some have eccentric beliefs about what Christians believe. Aren't you glad they don't define Christianity for the rest of us. Likewise, I cringe when you try to define "conservative" for the rest of us. Your beliefs concerning conservatism are not the final word on the subject (thankfully). You are listening to your conscience and I respect that. I'm listening to mine and will vote accordingly.


I don't believe "Republican" is a zinger. I thought that's what you believe given the way you're disparagingly flinging around the label, which is why I asked.

Let's be honest - your issue with me is not how I define conservative. I suspect you'd have difficulty identifying more than a handful of conservative issues with which you disagree with me. In truth, where we diverge is that you - like the MAGA republicans who couldn't bring themselves to vote for McCarthy - would rather see the party burn to the ground than see a MAGA candidate win or have a position of leadership in the party. You'd rather the democrat win than see that. I believe your rigidity and inability to compromise - just like MAGA's the last few days - is bad for conservatism. That's why I called your consternation at the MAGA repubs the last few days so incredibly ironic.

Neither of us want Trump. The difference between us is you'd rather burn down the house (and the country in the process) than see trump win.


You are dead on. This has to stop or Dems win. If GOP can't govern, people will turn to Dems. That can't happen, Moderates (not even Conservatives) are at a disadvantage, on fighting has to end.
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Redbrickbear said:

He Hate Me said:

Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?


He has totally lost the "outsider energy" he had in 2016

to a degree, within the conservative movement, yes. not so much elsewhere.
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whiterock said:

Redbrickbear said:

He Hate Me said:

Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?


He has totally lost the "outsider energy" he had in 2016

to a degree, within the conservative movement, yes. not so much elsewhere.

He is damaged to the point of being a negative. Unless he goes 3rd Party, there is no way he gets nomination. After House Speaker fiasco, I am starting to believe there will be a 3rd Party, to many differences. We may be seeing the beginnings of a move to coalition government in the US, unless the GOP can reign in the MAGA folks.
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RMF5630 said:

whiterock said:

Redbrickbear said:

He Hate Me said:

Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?


He has totally lost the "outsider energy" he had in 2016

to a degree, within the conservative movement, yes. not so much elsewhere.

He is damaged to the point of being a negative. Unless he goes 3rd Party, there is no way he gets nomination. After House Speaker fiasco, I am starting to believe there will be a 3rd Party, to many differences. We may be seeing the beginnings of a move to coalition government in the US, unless the GOP can reign in the MAGA folks.
3rd party? You mean an actual second party will form outside the unparty. I welcome that and so do about 80% of would be republican voters.
Osodecentx
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.


So I guess the answer is yes, you feel calling other people Republicans is a put down or a zing. Lol.

It makes no difference to me what you call me. If you want to call me a Republican to make you feel better about your own choices, so be it. I don't look at that as an insult, but then again, I'm not a deranged NT.

Yes, I will always vote for the more conservative candidate over the liberal counterpart. Anyone who calls themselves conservative and votes (or doesn't vote) in a way that gets liberals elected is a buffoon. One would've thought the last two years would've taught you that lesson but apparently you're a slow learner.
No, I don't think calling someone a Republican or Democrat is a zinger. It is interesting that your interpret "your party" as a zinger or an insult. You always vote Republican but consider it an insult if some anonymous poster references your party. It isn't an insult; it is an accurate description

i voted for Trump twice; never again. Biden is terrible, but hasn't talked about terminating parts of the Constitution or encouraged people to attack the Capitol. That is a disqualification from holding federal office. I'll be voting in the Republican primary for one of the good candidates that will be running.

From your posts I believe you are a Christian. I know I am. I cringe when some of the posters here define Christianity for the rest of us because some have eccentric beliefs about what Christians believe. Aren't you glad they don't define Christianity for the rest of us. Likewise, I cringe when you try to define "conservative" for the rest of us. Your beliefs concerning conservatism are not the final word on the subject (thankfully). You are listening to your conscience and I respect that. I'm listening to mine and will vote accordingly.

Neither of us want Trump. The difference between us is you'd rather burn down the house (and the country in the process) than see trump win.
I observed Trump trying to burn down the house and you voting for him as striking the match.
Osodecentx
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.


So I guess the answer is yes, you feel calling other people Republicans is a put down or a zing. Lol.

It makes no difference to me what you call me. If you want to call me a Republican to make you feel better about your own choices, so be it. I don't look at that as an insult, but then again, I'm not a deranged NT.

Yes, I will always vote for the more conservative candidate over the liberal counterpart. Anyone who calls themselves conservative and votes (or doesn't vote) in a way that gets liberals elected is a buffoon. One would've thought the last two years would've taught you that lesson but apparently you're a slow learner.
No, I don't think calling someone a Republican or Democrat is a zinger. It is interesting that your interpret "your party" as a zinger or an insult. You always vote Republican but consider it an insult if some anonymous poster references your party. It isn't an insult; it is an accurate description

i voted for Trump twice; never again. Biden is terrible, but hasn't talked about terminating parts of the Constitution or encouraged people to attack the Capitol. That is a disqualification from holding federal office. I'll be voting in the Republican primary for one of the good candidates that will be running.

From your posts I believe you are a Christian. I know I am. I cringe when some of the posters here define Christianity for the rest of us because some have eccentric beliefs about what Christians believe. Aren't you glad they don't define Christianity for the rest of us. Likewise, I cringe when you try to define "conservative" for the rest of us. Your beliefs concerning conservatism are not the final word on the subject (thankfully). You are listening to your conscience and I respect that. I'm listening to mine and will vote accordingly.


Let's be honest - your issue with me is not how I define conservative. I suspect you'd have difficulty identifying more than a handful of conservative issues with which you disagree with me. In truth, where we diverge is that you - like the MAGA republicans who couldn't bring themselves to vote for McCarthy - would rather see the party burn to the ground than see a MAGA candidate win or have a position of leadership in the party. You'd rather the democrat win than see that. I believe your rigidity and inability to compromise - just like MAGA's the last few days - is bad for conservatism. That's why I called your consternation at the MAGA repubs the last few days so incredibly ironic.
True dat (in bold)

As for the rest of the paragraph, no
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muddybrazos said:

RMF5630 said:

whiterock said:

Redbrickbear said:

He Hate Me said:

Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?


He has totally lost the "outsider energy" he had in 2016

to a degree, within the conservative movement, yes. not so much elsewhere.

He is damaged to the point of being a negative. Unless he goes 3rd Party, there is no way he gets nomination. After House Speaker fiasco, I am starting to believe there will be a 3rd Party, to many differences. We may be seeing the beginnings of a move to coalition government in the US, unless the GOP can reign in the MAGA folks.
3rd party? You mean an actual second party will form outside the unparty. I welcome that and so do about 80% of would be republican voters.
I mean like Roosevelt's Bull Moose Party, which was a similar split in the GOP. Not saying that Trump is anywhere near the President or politician Teddy R was, not in the same galaxy. But, the concept of going alone.
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RMF5630 said:

whiterock said:

Redbrickbear said:

He Hate Me said:

Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?


He has totally lost the "outsider energy" he had in 2016

to a degree, within the conservative movement, yes. not so much elsewhere.

He is damaged to the point of being a negative. Unless he goes 3rd Party, there is no way he gets nomination. After House Speaker fiasco, I am starting to believe there will be a 3rd Party, to many differences. We may be seeing the beginnings of a move to coalition government in the US, unless the GOP can reign in the MAGA folks.
Sorta two different things got conflated there. The initial question is "has Trump become part of the swamp" (as evidence by his endorsement of McCarthy). I quibbled only as a matter of degree. No, being pragmatic does not mean one has joined the swamp, but yes, some (small "some") of his MAGA base might be disappointed to see the way he supported McCarthy. In any event, don't think this changed many minds outside the GOP. Opinions are kinda baked-in. Polling at 538 and RCP on primary and general is pretty consisten. Still looks like a 2020 rematch is most likely outcome.

The folks in the middle don't wear this stuff on their sleeve to the same degree as do people posting on a political forum. Yeah, they like/dislike and support/oppose stuff but the numbers change, because they're independents/moderates. They bend with the wind and flip back & forth. Third parties happen. Rarely. Safest bet is not this time either.
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Jack Bauer said:


more people would watch if this was the real conversation..
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Osodecentx
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Redbrickbear said:


Do you agree with the tweet?
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whiterock said:

RMF5630 said:

whiterock said:

Redbrickbear said:

He Hate Me said:

Has Trump been subsumed into the Borg political collective?


He has totally lost the "outsider energy" he had in 2016

to a degree, within the conservative movement, yes. not so much elsewhere.

He is damaged to the point of being a negative. Unless he goes 3rd Party, there is no way he gets nomination. After House Speaker fiasco, I am starting to believe there will be a 3rd Party, to many differences. We may be seeing the beginnings of a move to coalition government in the US, unless the GOP can reign in the MAGA folks.
Sorta two different things got conflated there. The initial question is "has Trump become part of the swamp" (as evidence by his endorsement of McCarthy). I quibbled only as a matter of degree. No, being pragmatic does not mean one has joined the swamp, but yes, some (small "some") of his MAGA base might be disappointed to see the way he supported McCarthy. In any event, don't think this changed many minds outside the GOP. Opinions are kinda baked-in. Polling at 538 and RCP on primary and general is pretty consisten. Still looks like a 2020 rematch is most likely outcome.

The folks in the middle don't wear this stuff on their sleeve to the same degree as do people posting on a political forum. Yeah, they like/dislike and support/oppose stuff but the numbers change, because they're independents/moderates. They bend with the wind and flip back & forth. Third parties happen. Rarely. Safest bet is not this time either.
I agree with you on the 3rd Party not being a good idea. It didn't work for Roosevelt. It killed Bush Sr with Perot. I cannot think of a time where it has not turned into a gift for the opposing party.

Funny, how it the cycle turns. Hard to be an "outsider" when you have already been there for an extended period of time! Trump has been in the middle of US politics since 2015, going on 7 years. He is part of the swamp, whether he likes it or not. The programs he created are part of the web of the US policy. His moves in Foreign Policy are playing into today's decisions. He is in defense mode and selling his record, rather than being an "outsider". DeSantis has a better argument as a Gov as being an DC outsider than Trump at this juncture. Personally, IMO that is the problem for Trump, he never learned how to morph from disruptor to a Teddy R type renegade Executive. Even Teddy R couldn't leave and come back and he is on Mt Rushmore!
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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.


So I guess the answer is yes, you feel calling other people Republicans is a put down or a zing. Lol.

It makes no difference to me what you call me. If you want to call me a Republican to make you feel better about your own choices, so be it. I don't look at that as an insult, but then again, I'm not a deranged NT.

Yes, I will always vote for the more conservative candidate over the liberal counterpart. Anyone who calls themselves conservative and votes (or doesn't vote) in a way that gets liberals elected is a buffoon. One would've thought the last two years would've taught you that lesson but apparently you're a slow learner.
No, I don't think calling someone a Republican or Democrat is a zinger. It is interesting that your interpret "your party" as a zinger or an insult. You always vote Republican but consider it an insult if some anonymous poster references your party. It isn't an insult; it is an accurate description

i voted for Trump twice; never again. Biden is terrible, but hasn't talked about terminating parts of the Constitution or encouraged people to attack the Capitol. That is a disqualification from holding federal office. I'll be voting in the Republican primary for one of the good candidates that will be running.

From your posts I believe you are a Christian. I know I am. I cringe when some of the posters here define Christianity for the rest of us because some have eccentric beliefs about what Christians believe. Aren't you glad they don't define Christianity for the rest of us. Likewise, I cringe when you try to define "conservative" for the rest of us. Your beliefs concerning conservatism are not the final word on the subject (thankfully). You are listening to your conscience and I respect that. I'm listening to mine and will vote accordingly.

Neither of us want Trump. The difference between us is you'd rather burn down the house (and the country in the process) than see trump win.
I observed Trump trying to burn down the house and you voting for him as striking the match.
That's pretty silly. I voted for him before January 6th, as did you. If he tried to burn down the house on January 6th, then surely charges would have been brought against him for sedition to prevent him from running again, correct? I mean we wouldn't let a guy who tried to "burn down the house" run for president again, would we?
Mothra
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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.


So I guess the answer is yes, you feel calling other people Republicans is a put down or a zing. Lol.

It makes no difference to me what you call me. If you want to call me a Republican to make you feel better about your own choices, so be it. I don't look at that as an insult, but then again, I'm not a deranged NT.

Yes, I will always vote for the more conservative candidate over the liberal counterpart. Anyone who calls themselves conservative and votes (or doesn't vote) in a way that gets liberals elected is a buffoon. One would've thought the last two years would've taught you that lesson but apparently you're a slow learner.
No, I don't think calling someone a Republican or Democrat is a zinger. It is interesting that your interpret "your party" as a zinger or an insult. You always vote Republican but consider it an insult if some anonymous poster references your party. It isn't an insult; it is an accurate description

i voted for Trump twice; never again. Biden is terrible, but hasn't talked about terminating parts of the Constitution or encouraged people to attack the Capitol. That is a disqualification from holding federal office. I'll be voting in the Republican primary for one of the good candidates that will be running.

From your posts I believe you are a Christian. I know I am. I cringe when some of the posters here define Christianity for the rest of us because some have eccentric beliefs about what Christians believe. Aren't you glad they don't define Christianity for the rest of us. Likewise, I cringe when you try to define "conservative" for the rest of us. Your beliefs concerning conservatism are not the final word on the subject (thankfully). You are listening to your conscience and I respect that. I'm listening to mine and will vote accordingly.


Let's be honest - your issue with me is not how I define conservative. I suspect you'd have difficulty identifying more than a handful of conservative issues with which you disagree with me. In truth, where we diverge is that you - like the MAGA republicans who couldn't bring themselves to vote for McCarthy - would rather see the party burn to the ground than see a MAGA candidate win or have a position of leadership in the party. You'd rather the democrat win than see that. I believe your rigidity and inability to compromise - just like MAGA's the last few days - is bad for conservatism. That's why I called your consternation at the MAGA repubs the last few days so incredibly ironic.
True dat (in bold)

As for the rest of the paragraph, no
I understand why you would attempt to brush off the apt comparison, since it doesn't paint a flattering picture. But when you financially support people who try to get Democrats elected because you think a Republican candidate didn't dislike Trump enough, the comparison remains apropos.
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Isn't it your party?
No more my party than yours. Unlike you, I have never been a registered Republican. Like you, I claim to be conservative. Unlike you, I actually am a conservative and am a pragmatist who always votes for the more conservative candidates in local, state and national elections.

Question: do you really believe calling it "my party" is a zing or put down?
Calling it "your party" seems accurate. You always vote for the Republican candidates, no matter how bad they are.

How does one become a "registered Republican" in Texas. Maybe white rock can help us on that one.


So I guess the answer is yes, you feel calling other people Republicans is a put down or a zing. Lol.

It makes no difference to me what you call me. If you want to call me a Republican to make you feel better about your own choices, so be it. I don't look at that as an insult, but then again, I'm not a deranged NT.

Yes, I will always vote for the more conservative candidate over the liberal counterpart. Anyone who calls themselves conservative and votes (or doesn't vote) in a way that gets liberals elected is a buffoon. One would've thought the last two years would've taught you that lesson but apparently you're a slow learner.
No, I don't think calling someone a Republican or Democrat is a zinger. It is interesting that your interpret "your party" as a zinger or an insult. You always vote Republican but consider it an insult if some anonymous poster references your party. It isn't an insult; it is an accurate description

i voted for Trump twice; never again. Biden is terrible, but hasn't talked about terminating parts of the Constitution or encouraged people to attack the Capitol. That is a disqualification from holding federal office. I'll be voting in the Republican primary for one of the good candidates that will be running.

From your posts I believe you are a Christian. I know I am. I cringe when some of the posters here define Christianity for the rest of us because some have eccentric beliefs about what Christians believe. Aren't you glad they don't define Christianity for the rest of us. Likewise, I cringe when you try to define "conservative" for the rest of us. Your beliefs concerning conservatism are not the final word on the subject (thankfully). You are listening to your conscience and I respect that. I'm listening to mine and will vote accordingly.

Neither of us want Trump. The difference between us is you'd rather burn down the house (and the country in the process) than see trump win.
I observed Trump trying to burn down the house and you voting for him as striking the match.
That's pretty silly. I voted for him before January 6th, as did you. If he tried to burn down the house on January 6th, then surely charges would have been brought against him for sedition to prevent him from running again, correct? I mean we wouldn't let a guy who tried to "burn down the house" run for president again, would we?

This might be the most pernicious logical fallacy to come put of the Trump era. As if a lack of criminal prosecution is all that matters, and anything short of that means it's acceptable behavior. The irony lies in that fact that you will vigorously oppose any and all investigation or prosecution, while dismissing any attempt at accountability as just partisan actions.

It's a circular argument for dismissing anything inconvenient: "all investigations/judicial actions against Republicans are just partisan witch-hunts>>>a lack of judicial action/conviction means nothing bad happened".
 
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