whiterock said:I agree that RDS might not offer Trump as much electorally as some other options.FLBear5630 said:i disagree. I dont see Trumps VP as a winning hand in the future. Need to be close enough to capture the base, but not too close. there will be negatives for future elections. i would be shocked if RDS would say yes. I don't even see much upside for RDS from Trump's perspective, he doesn't bring anyone Trump doesn't already have.whiterock said:There's some value in appearing to not be interested. It's a good position to take in negotiating for the job. It's an even better position to take if you think you are not likely to be the choice. Getting left at the altar is emasculating.....FLBear5630 said:Whiskey Pete said:I'll also add, that I'd bet dollars to donuts that if the polls weren't looking good for Trump, Nikki Haley wouldn't have said she'd be voting for Trump.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:as people on here made her out to be a Biden supporter.boognish_bear said:
Nikki ready to kiss the ringšØ Nikki Haley endorses Trump, saying she will vote for him in the 2024 election.https://t.co/FBhmm1AClp
— Axios (@axios) May 22, 2024
If she was a Sikh from Massachusetts instead of South Carolina she would be a Biden supporter.
She has shown nothing but contempt and dislike for Southern Whites since 2015.
**** her
I hope she sends her own kids to the foreign wars she supports
Also, if these kangaroo court cases were looking worse for Trump (instead of apparently going up in flames), same thing. She wouldn't say a thing about voting for him.
Sounds like to me, with these court cases not working out quite like the NeverTrumpers had hoped, Nikki's plan of waiting in the shadows to win the GOP nomination from a brokered convention has waned a bit.
Looks like she's kissing the ring because she has little choice and she wants to be picked for VP.
I agree here. She wants VP. DeSantis doesn't.
If he's offered the job, he'll take it. Any of them will take it if offered. As WP noted, Trump is looking like a winner, and macro trends are more likely to move things to his favor than to his detriment. If you do want to be POTUS, you would way rather run as a sitting VP than against a sitting VP......
Scott and Haley both bring different voters, RDS not so much.
Here's your choice:
A) You can say no to VP, finish your term, and spend two-years preparing to run as a former governor. You will not have the same political power to make news or raise money. You can't rush out to oppose with executive order or signed statute the latest insanity from the left. You can only step up to the microphone and make a statement. Yeah, you won't get forgotten, but you'll be in a helluva lot weaker position than you were as Governor, or would be if you had some statewide or national office affording you a bully pulpit. You'll be remembered by the 3 & 4R Republicans, but progressively ever more "out of mind" of the 2R voters, 1R voters, and crossover voters. And....you'll have to contend with other sitting Governors, Senators, and a VP who WILL get more airtime and likely raise more money.
B) you can say yes to VP and be part of a billion-dollar campaign getting your name out across the country, where you will implicitly and in some ways explicitly be presented as the "heir apparent" given that Trump cannot seek reelection in 2028. After inauguration, you will travel the world making news with foreign powers (buttressing your foreign policy resume in ways few others could compete with). You will make news domestically on issues of the day. And you will be sitting on top of a nationwide fundraising network YOU helped build in the 2024 campaign. And you will be able to tap all of that as you ease into the primary and ensuing convention. Everything that organizes primaries and conventions and campaigns will already be built...nationwide....and supported by the power of incumbency.
You really, really are not thinking clearly about the allure of being VP 2024-2028. It is the closest thing there is to a guaranteed nomination in 2028. And one must get the nomination to get to be POTUS.
Frankly, I'd rather RDS be Atty General than VPOTUS. He'd leave a trail thru the deep-state like Sherman left thru Georgia. And I think he'd take it. It'd be a good place for him to park & prep for 2024.
I agree with RDS as AG, his best role
I am not sure that Trump leaves anything in a positive state. Name one thing he was ever involved in that ended positive?
Not sure having your name with Trump will be a positive and RDS already has conservative bonafides. AG, I would vote for that. RDS is a smart attorney, he don't lose.
