Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Pathetic

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How so ?

Not nice to make fun of a dead assassin ?

4th and Inches said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.

Check out every poll here: https://t.co/qiLLy3Gz2D

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) July 21, 2024

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2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.

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its not a dead heat at Dem +2

Thats a GOP win if the swings hold as + for Trump

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Agreed. Given the weight of California, New York, Illinois, the Democrats need to be +5 to be even in the Electoral Race.

This will be the first Presidential election since 1976 to not have a Biden, Bush, or Clinton on the ticket.

— Ben Jones (@BW_Jones) July 21, 2024

they think you are stupid.

Last month, we were told that concerning videos of Biden glitching were deepfakes.

Today, he dropped out because of them.

What a stunning turn of events.

pic.twitter.com/dwBPy08BIN

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) July 21, 2024

historian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.

Check out every poll here: https://t.co/qiLLy3Gz2D

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) July 21, 2024

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2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.

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That might not last long. A lot of people pay little attention to the VP because they are usually unimportant. Now that she's the probable nominee (all kinds of chaos is possible in the convention), the focus on her will be laser like and all her insane gibberish (sometimes worse that Biden's, if that can be imagined), and her atrocious record might change her numbers. Then again, some will support her only because she's a black woman.

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So the question is was the word salad her or her trying to only say what Biden would let her say? Will she do better with her own message? I don't remember her being so scatterbrained as a Senator and she got some shots in on Biden in debate. Be interesting to see her message.

Good point

It would be appropriate to have a real debate, preferably with no moderator. And definitely not on one of the fascists' propaganda mouthpiece networks.

Confirmed: Manchin is considering re-registering as a Democrat to run against Kamala Harris for the presidential nomination.

— Sam Stein (@samstein) July 21, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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Confirmed: Manchin is considering re-registering as a Democrat to run against Kamala Harris for the presidential nomination.

— Sam Stein (@samstein) July 21, 2024

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I actually like Joe Manchin, but I think at this point only Donald Trump can clean up the deep corruption in D.C.

Trump PAC already has a Kamala ad out:

The ad: pic.twitter.com/iKyVNc8ZxJ

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) July 21, 2024

AOC: not all Dems want Kamala:

AOC Has an Interesting Take on the Election

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/07/21/so-aoc-was-right-n2642287

A Dem civil war brewing?

Here We Go: Gavin Newsom Supporters Circulating Anti-Kamala Polling Memo

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2024/07/21/here-we-go-gavin-newsom-supporters-circulating-anti-kamala-memo-n2642286

A Full-Blown Civil War Looms for Democrats

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/07/21/democrats-are-about-to-go-full-throttle-into-civil-war-n4930929

Tough. Fearless. Tenacious.

With our democracy at stake and our future on the line, no one is better to prosecute the case against Donald Trump's dark vision and guide our country in a healthier direction than America’s Vice President, @KamalaHarris.

— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) July 21, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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Tough. Fearless. Tenacious.

With our democracy at stake and our future on the line, no one is better to prosecute the case against Donald Trump's dark vision and guide our country in a healthier direction than America’s Vice President, @KamalaHarris.

— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) July 21, 2024

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He is such a kiss ass...

I guess that ends any doubt that we will have a rip roaring fight at the convention. He is waiving his white flag.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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I guess that ends any doubt that we will have a rip roaring fight at the convention. He is waiving his white flag.

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Maybe his wife got a hold of his account.

Our PR team emailed Mark Cuban (and basketball media) his VP odds (100/1 currently).

He emailed back with a resounding: "Maybe !"

— BetOnline (@BetOnline_ag) July 22, 2024

2024 Presidential election odds from @BetOnline_ag pic.twitter.com/iGDU941vEA

— Barrett Sallee 🇺🇸 (@BarrettSallee) July 22, 2024

Biden never had Covid. He is a threat to Democracy!@realDonaldTrump Donald Trump Truth Social 10:26 PM EST 07/21/24

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) July 22, 2024

Who is running our Country right now? It’s not Crooked Joe, he has no idea where he is. If he can’t run for office, he can’t run our Country!!!@realDonaldTrump Donald Trump Truth Social 10:46 PM EST 07/21/24

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) July 22, 2024

I recall Cuban said his wife would not let him run back in 2020. Normal folks do not run for office

DNC Rules Committee calls a Wednesday meeting to discuss process for selecting new nominee

— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) July 22, 2024

4th and Inches said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.

Check out every poll here: https://t.co/qiLLy3Gz2D

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) July 21, 2024

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2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.

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its not a dead heat at Dem +2

Thats a GOP win if the swings hold as + for Trump

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True, I love you optomism...

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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The Donald usually names the best and brightest to his cabinets and then gets pissed and fires them or they get fed up and resign.

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first go-around, The Donald ran a campaign full of leftovers (most of the other candidates had already hired everybody of any note). Then when he won, he hired in his cabinet a bunch of JRs, people of some accomplishment who unfortunately were often opposed to the policy agenda The Donald was elected on.

He has run a far better campaign this time, in no small part because he has a team that is very experienced, very savvy, and has been with him for nearly four years now = loyal. I suspect we will see the same on the cabinet. We certainly see it with the sympatico VP pick.

FLBear5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.

Check out every poll here: https://t.co/qiLLy3Gz2D

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) July 21, 2024

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2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.

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its not a dead heat at Dem +2

Thats a GOP win if the swings hold as + for Trump

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True, I love you optomism...

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poll that just came out is Trump +5 against Harris

FLBear5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.

Check out every poll here: https://t.co/qiLLy3Gz2D

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) July 21, 2024

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2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.

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its not a dead heat at Dem +2

Thats a GOP win if the swings hold as + for Trump

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True, I love you optomism...

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Dynamics of the Electoral College favor the GOP. They can win the EC without winning the Popular Vote quite a bit easier than Dems. The equation the Dems have to cobble together to get to 270 usually give them something like a 3-4% lead in the PV. A tie in the popular vote is usually a warning sign for Dems that something isn't right in their EV math.

expect a rash of polls showing Harris narrowing the gap. Part of that will be a genuine sympathy bump. Part of it will be a genuine increase in Democrat enthusiasm (just from ending the uncertainty). I'd also expect that to fade, for 2 reasons: 1) Harris is VP and owns all of the Biden policy failures. 2) Harris is Harrisv= not a very accomplished candidate. Biden-Harris campaign has run $100m+ in swing states so far and their deficit has been growing (slightly). Meanwhile, Trump has outraised them and has not weighed in with any significant campaign ads. So the GOP has some upside ahead, too. For now, the problem Trump faces is that he doesn't know who to attack. If he spends $50m reducing Kamala's numbers and then the Dems nominate someone else, that's wasted money. Plus the Dems will be getting all kinds of earned media from the convention drama. So over the next two weeks, it will be harder for Trump to get "on-message."

Big money spends tend to move needles. When it doesn't, most common reason is that voters know the candidate and have made up their minds. Both Biden and Trump were basically in that situation, leading to a higher than normal numbers of undecideds (a larger then normal percentage of whom would not likely vote, the rest very breaking late against the incumbent). Kamala isn't quite so thoroughly branded. She does, at least theoretically, have a chance to redefine herself. Dems do, at least theoretically, have a chance to make the race about something other than a dreadful policy record on all the issues driving the cycle. But Trump has several hundred million dollars for use to define Kamala as Joe in a skirt, so it will not be easy for them.

whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.

Check out every poll here: https://t.co/qiLLy3Gz2D

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) July 21, 2024

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2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.

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its not a dead heat at Dem +2

Thats a GOP win if the swings hold as + for Trump

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True, I love you optomism...

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Dynamics of the Electoral College favor the GOP. They can win the EC without winning the Popular Vote quite a bit easier than Dems. The equation the Dems have to cobble together to get to 270 usually give them something like a 3-4% lead in the PV. A tie in the popular vote is usually a warning sign for Dems that something isn't right in their EV math.

expect a rash of polls showing Harris narrowing the gap. Part of that will be a genuine sympathy bump. Part of it will be a genuine increase in Democrat enthusiasm (just from ending the uncertainty). I'd also expect that to fade, for 2 reasons: 1) Harris is VP and owns all of the Biden policy failures. 2) Harris is Harrisv= not a very accomplished candidate. Biden-Harris campaign has run $100m+ in swing states so far and their deficit has been growing (slightly). Meanwhile, Trump has outraised them and has not weighed in with any significant campaign ads. So the GOP has some upside ahead, too. For now, the problem Trump faces is that he doesn't know who to attack. If he spends $50m reducing Kamala's numbers and then the Dems nominate someone else, that's wasted money. Plus the Dems will be getting all kinds of earned media from the convention drama. So over the next two weeks, it will be harder for Trump to get "on-message."

Big money spends tend to move needles. When it doesn't, most common reason is that voters know the candidate and have made up their minds. Both Biden and Trump were basically in that situation, leading to a higher than normal numbers of undecideds (a larger then normal percentage of whom would not likely vote, the rest very breaking late against the incumbent). Kamala isn't quite so thoroughly branded. She does, at least theoretically, have a chance to redefine herself. Dems do, at least theoretically, have a chance to make the race about something other than a dreadful policy record on all the issues driving the cycle. But Trump has several hundred million dollars for use to define Kamala as Joe in a skirt, so it will not be easy for them.

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Harris has to convince people that Biden held her down and didn't let her speak as herself or assign her anything with any authority. Border Czar in name only.

If Biden is furious about the "turning their back on him" now, it is going to get worse. Only way to make Harris's performance look like it wasn't her fault is to assign the blame to Joe.

Be interesting to see how she speaks today. If she is articulate, it will help her.

whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Donald Trump leads Kamala Harris by 2.0% based on 67 polls in Decision Desk HQ/@thehill's polling average.

Check out every poll here: https://t.co/qiLLy3Gz2D

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) July 21, 2024

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2% is within the margin of error. What you are saying it is a dead heat. That is worrisome.

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its not a dead heat at Dem +2

Thats a GOP win if the swings hold as + for Trump

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True, I love you optomism...

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Dynamics of the Electoral College favor the GOP. They can win the EC without winning the Popular Vote quite a bit easier than Dems. The equation the Dems have to cobble together to get to 270 usually give them something like a 3-4% lead in the PV. A tie in the popular vote is usually a warning sign for Dems that something isn't right in their EV math.

expect a rash of polls showing Harris narrowing the gap. Part of that will be a genuine sympathy bump. Part of it will be a genuine increase in Democrat enthusiasm (just from ending the uncertainty). I'd also expect that to fade, for 2 reasons: 1) Harris is VP and owns all of the Biden policy failures. 2) Harris is Harrisv= not a very accomplished candidate. Biden-Harris campaign has run $100m+ in swing states so far and their deficit has been growing (slightly). Meanwhile, Trump has outraised them and has not weighed in with any significant campaign ads. So the GOP has some upside ahead, too. For now, the problem Trump faces is that he doesn't know who to attack. If he spends $50m reducing Kamala's numbers and then the Dems nominate someone else, that's wasted money. Plus the Dems will be getting all kinds of earned media from the convention drama. So over the next two weeks, it will be harder for Trump to get "on-message."

Big money spends tend to move needles. When it doesn't, most common reason is that voters know the candidate and have made up their minds. Both Biden and Trump were basically in that situation, leading to a higher than normal numbers of undecideds (a larger then normal percentage of whom would not likely vote, the rest very breaking late against the incumbent). Kamala isn't quite so thoroughly branded. She does, at least theoretically, have a chance to redefine herself. Dems do, at least theoretically, have a chance to make the race about something other than a dreadful policy record on all the issues driving the cycle. But Trump has several hundred million dollars for use to define Kamala as Joe in a skirt, so it will not be easy for them.

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Harris has to convince people that Biden held her down and didn't let her speak as herself or assign her anything with any authority. Border Czar in name only.

If Biden is furious about the "turning their back on him" now, it is going to get worse. Only way to make Harris's performance look like it wasn't her fault is to assign the blame to Joe.

Be interesting to see how she speaks today. If she is articulate, it will help her.

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She will for sure attempt to unburden herself from what has been

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I am curious. I watched her in the Senate, I don't agree with her politics but never thought of her as ditzy or inarticulate. She skewered Biden in 2020 debate. Then the VP years and she was all over the board, giggling all the time and making no sense.

I have been in situations where you have to wordsmith, massage and force ideas to fit what someone else wants. It creates gibberish. I hate it when in that situation. I am very curious to see how she comes off when SHE is directing the message, not fitting what Jill wants.

Bailing on Biden now is a shrewd move, he can't win. This re-opens the election AND takes the attention off Trump. The DNC Convention will be the most interesting in years and the first real Convention in decades. Not a made for TV show. Will be interesting to see how the reality TV effect plays.

This is normal in one way, GOP got a boost from their Convention. Now the Dems turn...

Republican source tells Politico Trump is unlikely to debate Kamala Harris, saying he'll likely call her an 'illegitimate candidate.'

— NewsWire (@NewsWire_US) July 21, 2024

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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I guess that ends any doubt that we will have a rip roaring fight at the convention. He is waiving his white flag.

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That's for public consumption. The fight still rages, covertly.