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In reply to Osodecentx • 4:05p, 2/6/23
When you use WaPo to support your political argument, you should have just quit and admitted the loss.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 8:37a, 2/7/23
Oldbear83 said:
When you use WaPo to support your political argument, you should have just quit and admitted the loss.
exactly. and it's not a terribly compelling argument. just means both front runners are equally (and significantly) unpopular.

it's human nature to want to vote for someone admirable. But we are not likely to have that choice next election. It's going to be two very old horses running on a muddy track. 2016 was won by the candidate who was not Hillary. 2020 was won by the candidate that was not Trump. 2024 will likely be won by the candidate who is not Biden.

It's not hard for the GOP to find a way to win. All it takes is flipping three states lost by very small 5-digit numbers. And now, the GOP is out working on the most important thing it MUST do to overcome its deficiencies. If we don't up our game on early/mail-in voting, it will not matter who is our candidate.


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In reply to whiterock • 8:48a, 2/7/23
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Oldbear83 said:
When you use WaPo to support your political argument, you should have just quit and admitted the loss.
exactly. and it's not a terribly compelling argument. just means both front runners are equally (and significantly) unpopular.

it's human nature to want to vote for someone admirable. But we are not likely to have that choice next election. It's going to be two very old horses running on a muddy track. 2016 was won by the candidate who was not Hillary. 2020 was won by the candidate that was not Trump. 2024 will likely be won by the candidate who is not Biden.

It's not hard for the GOP to find a way to win. All it takes is flipping three states lost by very small 5-digit numbers. And now, the GOP is out working on the most important thing it MUST do to overcome its deficiencies. If we don't up our game on early/mail-in voting, it will not matter who is our candidate.


It's a ballot acquisition game in many states. Legal, not legal, it doesn't matter. Save money on rallies and hire lawyers instead. Push the gray areas and keep the ballots coming for your side. If you are losing the battle with live voters on election day, make sure the machines don't work.
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11:10a, 2/7/23
National poll which isn't really relevant for the primary races, but an indicator of the mood of the party

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In reply to whiterock • 11:33a, 2/7/23
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I find it very difficult to believe the never Trumpers and independents would swing to Trump, but who knows.....
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In reply to whiterock • 11:34a, 2/7/23
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National poll which isn't really relevant for the primary races, but an indicator of the mood of the party

Just a word about 'Interactive Polls'.

There is a bit of disparity between the results from 'interactive' polls and polls which use traditional RDD method. The key difference is that participants in the interactive poll seek out that poll in order to participate, while RDD seeks more of an 'average opinion' on an issue or candidate.

One should not be confused for the other.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 12:34p, 2/7/23
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whiterock said:
National poll which isn't really relevant for the primary races, but an indicator of the mood of the party

Just a word about 'Interactive Polls'.

There is a bit of disparity between the results from 'interactive' polls and polls which use traditional RDD method. The key difference is that participants in the interactive poll seek out that poll in order to participate, while RDD seeks more of an 'average opinion' on an issue or candidate.

One should not be confused for the other.

I don't think the poll was interactive. That's just the name of the Twitter account, which in turn was linking Morning Consul polling.

MC is a reputable unit with a good track record. Some cycles in the middle of the pack, others near the top.
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In reply to whiterock • 2:42p, 2/7/23
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Oldbear83 said:
whiterock said:
National poll which isn't really relevant for the primary races, but an indicator of the mood of the party

Just a word about 'Interactive Polls'.

There is a bit of disparity between the results from 'interactive' polls and polls which use traditional RDD method. The key difference is that participants in the interactive poll seek out that poll in order to participate, while RDD seeks more of an 'average opinion' on an issue or candidate.

One should not be confused for the other.

I don't think the poll was interactive. That's just the name of the Twitter account, which in turn was linking Morning Consul polling.

MC is a reputable unit with a good track record. Some cycles in the middle of the pack, others near the top.
Morning Consult has used mixed media polls before. A lot of polls are doing that now to save money, but it makes for a less trustworthy product.

Reading their methodology, they contact 4,000 registered voters who have specifically identified as both Republican and likely to vote in the 2024 Primaries. To get a respondent pool that big and that defined a year ahead of the primaries, while delivering regular poll results, is heavily indicative of either a static pool of poll respondents or a fair amount of online polling is being done.
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3:44p, 2/7/23
Biden knows he's behind and can't win. So, the plan is to insert Hunter into the race.
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12:14p, 2/8/23
Interesting conversation about Trump and DeSantis



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In reply to whiterock • 3:57p, 2/8/23
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Frequency of 11th commandment violations going up. Meanwhile, DeSantis defends Trump

Trump Shares DeSantis 'Grooming' Accusation Just as Governor Defends Him

Former President Donald Trump boosted an accusation that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was guilty of "grooming" underage girls shortly after DeSantis defended the former president over the "Russia collusion hoax."
DeSantis, who is widely viewed as Trump's likely 2024 GOP presidential primary opponent despite not officially announcing his candidacy, took part in a roundtable discussion about "media defamation practices" on Tuesday morning.
During the discussion, the governor referred to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into allegations that Trump's 2016 campaign team colluded with Russia as the "Russia collusion hoax," echoing a phrase that is often repeated by the ex-president himself.

Within hours, Trump went on a rampage against DeSantis in a series of Truth Social posts. In two posts, Trump shared an image that purportedly showed the governor drinking alcohol with teenage girls that he was responsible for teaching at a high school in Georgia.
Trump on Tuesday shared an image to Truth Social claiming that DeSantis, his potential 2024 GOP primary rival, was allegedly guilty of "grooming" underage girls while working as a high school teacher.
A version of the image shared by Trump on Truth Social featured the caption,"Here is Ron DeSanctimonious grooming high school girls with alcohol as a teacher."
The former president commented, "That's not Ron, is it? He would never do such a thing!" While sharing the picture a second time, he added, "No way?"
Some on social media were quick to point out that the Florida governor and his teamhad previously pushed rhetoric baselessly claiming that LGBTQ people are guilty of "grooming" children.
"Ron DeSantis has waged a hateful war against the LGBTQ community and frequently called all of us 'groomers,'" writer and actor Benjamin Siemon tweeted. "That Donald Trump is now insinuating DeSantis is a pedophile is truly delicious and deserved."

Trump shared another Truth Social post on Tuesday that accused the Florida governor of not supporting Trump's border wall in 2018, prompting the former president to suggest that he regretted his endorsement of DeSantis.
"Wow, if I knew that I wouldn't have Endorsed him (and he would have had to quit the race, down 35 points!)," Trump wrote while sharing the post.
The former president shared additional posts that blasted DeSantis for denouncing "Trump's obsession with election fraud" and saying that he was "glad" violent January 6 rioters were arrested following Trump's 2020 loss to President Joe Biden.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shares-ron-desantis-grooming-accusation-meme-governor-defends-him-1779639
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10:21p, 2/8/23
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 10:24p, 2/8/23
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There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:44p, 2/8/23
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ATL Bear said:
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
If logic and rationality is TDS, then guilty as charged. But feel free to provide me your justification for Trump that doesn't involve the hypothetical of him being opposite some Democrat on a ballot.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 11:11p, 2/8/23
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
If logic and rationality is TDS, then guilty as charged. But feel free to provide me your justification for Trump that doesn't involve the hypothetical of him being opposite some Democrat on a ballot.


You miss the point. Why bring up Trump at all? The obsession is your problem, not mine.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 4:34a, 2/9/23
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
If logic and rationality is TDS, then guilty as charged. But feel free to provide me your justification for Trump that doesn't involve the hypothetical of him being opposite some Democrat on a ballot.


You miss the point. Why bring up Trump at all? The obsession is your problem, not mine.


Thread title "2024". Thread about presidential election. That's why Trump is brought up.

Trump has too many negatives to win. DeSantis is the only viable option.
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5:21a, 2/9/23
A really lousy strategy would be something to increase democrat turnout and decrease republican turnout.

Who better fits that bill?
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In reply to Golem • 9:14a, 2/9/23
Golem said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
If logic and rationality is TDS, then guilty as charged. But feel free to provide me your justification for Trump that doesn't involve the hypothetical of him being opposite some Democrat on a ballot.


You miss the point. Why bring up Trump at all? The obsession is your problem, not mine.


Thread title "2024". Thread about presidential election. That's why Trump is brought up.

Trump has too many negatives to win. DeSantis is the only viable option.
Trump is running, that's all. Nikki H is also running, so for all practical purposes they are equally relevant candidates.

That is, it's reasonable to weigh skills and experience. Emotional rants, not so much.

From where I sit, Trump's problem - his biggest one - is not his so-called 'negatives'. It's the simple question of why Trump would be the best choice for President in 2024.

Trump has not really done anything yet to make that case.

Biden bad? Yeah, we know that but why would that mean Trump is the automatic choice?

January 6 bother someone? OK, but seriously the facts don't indicate Trump had any direct involvement or ever broke the law.

My point is if we're going to weigh candidates for 2024, let's focus on policy, economic conditions, demographics.

We don't need screeds of any type.
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In reply to Golem • 10:06a, 2/9/23
Golem said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
If logic and rationality is TDS, then guilty as charged. But feel free to provide me your justification for Trump that doesn't involve the hypothetical of him being opposite some Democrat on a ballot.


You miss the point. Why bring up Trump at all? The obsession is your problem, not mine.


Thread title "2024". Thread about presidential election. That's why Trump is brought up.

Trump has too many negatives to win. DeSantis is the only viable option.
Yup.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:08a, 2/9/23
Oldbear83 said:
Golem said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
If logic and rationality is TDS, then guilty as charged. But feel free to provide me your justification for Trump that doesn't involve the hypothetical of him being opposite some Democrat on a ballot.


You miss the point. Why bring up Trump at all? The obsession is your problem, not mine.


Thread title "2024". Thread about presidential election. That's why Trump is brought up.

Trump has too many negatives to win. DeSantis is the only viable option.
Trump is running, that's all. Nikki H is also running, so for all practical purposes they are equally relevant candidates.

That is, it's reasonable to weigh skills and experience. Emotional rants, not so much.

From where I sit, Trump's problem - his biggest one - is not his so-called 'negatives'. It's the simple question of why Trump would be the best choice for President in 2024.

Trump has not really done anything yet to make that case.

Biden bad? Yeah, we know that but why would that mean Trump is the automatic choice?

January 6 bother someone? OK, but seriously the facts don't indicate Trump had any direct involvement or ever broke the law.

My point is if we're going to weigh candidates for 2024, let's focus on policy, economic conditions, demographics.

We don't need screeds of any type.
Kind of hard to argue that someone with Trump's following is equally relevant to a novice candidate with little support. We both know right now Trump is the front-runner.

Trump has done plenty to make the case why he would not be the best choice for President in 2024. Anyone who doesn't recognize that has their head in the sand (or some place else).
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10:35a, 2/9/23
Hunter is emerging in the polls.
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In reply to ScottS • 11:04a, 2/9/23
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Hunter is emerging in the polls.
Are you talking about the poll put out by National Lampoons or Babylon Bee?
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In reply to Mothra • 11:14a, 2/9/23
'We both know right now Trump is the front-runner.'

Well, that's kind of like saying in 1889 that Mercedes was the top auto maker. Let's see what happens when more get into the race.
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In reply to Golem • 2:50p, 2/9/23
Golem said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
If logic and rationality is TDS, then guilty as charged. But feel free to provide me your justification for Trump that doesn't involve the hypothetical of him being opposite some Democrat on a ballot.


You miss the point. Why bring up Trump at all? The obsession is your problem, not mine.


Thread title "2024". Thread about presidential election. That's why Trump is brought up.

Trump has too many negatives to win. DeSantis is the only viable option.
Exactly.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 2:56p, 2/9/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:

Frequency of 11th commandment violations going up. Meanwhile, DeSantis defends Trump

Trump Shares DeSantis 'Grooming' Accusation Just as Governor Defends Him

Former President Donald Trump boosted an accusation that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was guilty of "grooming" underage girls shortly after DeSantis defended the former president over the "Russia collusion hoax."
DeSantis, who is widely viewed as Trump's likely 2024 GOP presidential primary opponent despite not officially announcing his candidacy, took part in a roundtable discussion about "media defamation practices" on Tuesday morning.
During the discussion, the governor referred to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into allegations that Trump's 2016 campaign team colluded with Russia as the "Russia collusion hoax," echoing a phrase that is often repeated by the ex-president himself.

Within hours, Trump went on a rampage against DeSantis in a series of Truth Social posts. In two posts, Trump shared an image that purportedly showed the governor drinking alcohol with teenage girls that he was responsible for teaching at a high school in Georgia.
Trump on Tuesday shared an image to Truth Social claiming that DeSantis, his potential 2024 GOP primary rival, was allegedly guilty of "grooming" underage girls while working as a high school teacher.
A version of the image shared by Trump on Truth Social featured the caption,"Here is Ron DeSanctimonious grooming high school girls with alcohol as a teacher."
The former president commented, "That's not Ron, is it? He would never do such a thing!" While sharing the picture a second time, he added, "No way?"
Some on social media were quick to point out that the Florida governor and his teamhad previously pushed rhetoric baselessly claiming that LGBTQ people are guilty of "grooming" children.
"Ron DeSantis has waged a hateful war against the LGBTQ community and frequently called all of us 'groomers,'" writer and actor Benjamin Siemon tweeted. "That Donald Trump is now insinuating DeSantis is a pedophile is truly delicious and deserved."

Trump shared another Truth Social post on Tuesday that accused the Florida governor of not supporting Trump's border wall in 2018, prompting the former president to suggest that he regretted his endorsement of DeSantis.
"Wow, if I knew that I wouldn't have Endorsed him (and he would have had to quit the race, down 35 points!)," Trump wrote while sharing the post.
The former president shared additional posts that blasted DeSantis for denouncing "Trump's obsession with election fraud" and saying that he was "glad" violent January 6 rioters were arrested following Trump's 2020 loss to President Joe Biden.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shares-ron-desantis-grooming-accusation-meme-governor-defends-him-1779639



The vetting process has begun. DeSantis will take far harder shots than that from Democrats. And he has weaknesses. Will have to up his game. Time to go to work on them.

your 11th Amendment comment is heavily pregnant with irony.
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In reply to whiterock • 3:01p, 2/9/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:

Frequency of 11th commandment violations going up. Meanwhile, DeSantis defends Trump

Trump Shares DeSantis 'Grooming' Accusation Just as Governor Defends Him

Former President Donald Trump boosted an accusation that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was guilty of "grooming" underage girls shortly after DeSantis defended the former president over the "Russia collusion hoax."
DeSantis, who is widely viewed as Trump's likely 2024 GOP presidential primary opponent despite not officially announcing his candidacy, took part in a roundtable discussion about "media defamation practices" on Tuesday morning.
During the discussion, the governor referred to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into allegations that Trump's 2016 campaign team colluded with Russia as the "Russia collusion hoax," echoing a phrase that is often repeated by the ex-president himself.

Within hours, Trump went on a rampage against DeSantis in a series of Truth Social posts. In two posts, Trump shared an image that purportedly showed the governor drinking alcohol with teenage girls that he was responsible for teaching at a high school in Georgia.
Trump on Tuesday shared an image to Truth Social claiming that DeSantis, his potential 2024 GOP primary rival, was allegedly guilty of "grooming" underage girls while working as a high school teacher.
A version of the image shared by Trump on Truth Social featured the caption,"Here is Ron DeSanctimonious grooming high school girls with alcohol as a teacher."
The former president commented, "That's not Ron, is it? He would never do such a thing!" While sharing the picture a second time, he added, "No way?"
Some on social media were quick to point out that the Florida governor and his teamhad previously pushed rhetoric baselessly claiming that LGBTQ people are guilty of "grooming" children.
"Ron DeSantis has waged a hateful war against the LGBTQ community and frequently called all of us 'groomers,'" writer and actor Benjamin Siemon tweeted. "That Donald Trump is now insinuating DeSantis is a pedophile is truly delicious and deserved."

Trump shared another Truth Social post on Tuesday that accused the Florida governor of not supporting Trump's border wall in 2018, prompting the former president to suggest that he regretted his endorsement of DeSantis.
"Wow, if I knew that I wouldn't have Endorsed him (and he would have had to quit the race, down 35 points!)," Trump wrote while sharing the post.
The former president shared additional posts that blasted DeSantis for denouncing "Trump's obsession with election fraud" and saying that he was "glad" violent January 6 rioters were arrested following Trump's 2020 loss to President Joe Biden.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shares-ron-desantis-grooming-accusation-meme-governor-defends-him-1779639



The vetting process has begun. DeSantis will take far harder shots than that from Democrats. And he has weaknesses. Will have to up his game. Time to go to work on them.

your 11th Amendment comment is heavily pregnant with irony.
Reagan is the Independents' icon because he would be cast out by you "conservatives".
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In reply to Osodecentx • 5:58a, 2/10/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:

Frequency of 11th commandment violations going up. Meanwhile, DeSantis defends Trump

Trump Shares DeSantis 'Grooming' Accusation Just as Governor Defends Him

Former President Donald Trump boosted an accusation that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was guilty of "grooming" underage girls shortly after DeSantis defended the former president over the "Russia collusion hoax."
DeSantis, who is widely viewed as Trump's likely 2024 GOP presidential primary opponent despite not officially announcing his candidacy, took part in a roundtable discussion about "media defamation practices" on Tuesday morning.
During the discussion, the governor referred to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into allegations that Trump's 2016 campaign team colluded with Russia as the "Russia collusion hoax," echoing a phrase that is often repeated by the ex-president himself.

Within hours, Trump went on a rampage against DeSantis in a series of Truth Social posts. In two posts, Trump shared an image that purportedly showed the governor drinking alcohol with teenage girls that he was responsible for teaching at a high school in Georgia.
Trump on Tuesday shared an image to Truth Social claiming that DeSantis, his potential 2024 GOP primary rival, was allegedly guilty of "grooming" underage girls while working as a high school teacher.
A version of the image shared by Trump on Truth Social featured the caption,"Here is Ron DeSanctimonious grooming high school girls with alcohol as a teacher."
The former president commented, "That's not Ron, is it? He would never do such a thing!" While sharing the picture a second time, he added, "No way?"
Some on social media were quick to point out that the Florida governor and his teamhad previously pushed rhetoric baselessly claiming that LGBTQ people are guilty of "grooming" children.
"Ron DeSantis has waged a hateful war against the LGBTQ community and frequently called all of us 'groomers,'" writer and actor Benjamin Siemon tweeted. "That Donald Trump is now insinuating DeSantis is a pedophile is truly delicious and deserved."

Trump shared another Truth Social post on Tuesday that accused the Florida governor of not supporting Trump's border wall in 2018, prompting the former president to suggest that he regretted his endorsement of DeSantis.
"Wow, if I knew that I wouldn't have Endorsed him (and he would have had to quit the race, down 35 points!)," Trump wrote while sharing the post.
The former president shared additional posts that blasted DeSantis for denouncing "Trump's obsession with election fraud" and saying that he was "glad" violent January 6 rioters were arrested following Trump's 2020 loss to President Joe Biden.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shares-ron-desantis-grooming-accusation-meme-governor-defends-him-1779639



The vetting process has begun. DeSantis will take far harder shots than that from Democrats. And he has weaknesses. Will have to up his game. Time to go to work on them.

your 11th Amendment comment is heavily pregnant with irony.
Reagan is the Independents' icon because he would be cast out by you "conservatives".
you live in a very small world of your own construction
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Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:

Frequency of 11th commandment violations going up. Meanwhile, DeSantis defends Trump

Trump Shares DeSantis 'Grooming' Accusation Just as Governor Defends Him

Former President Donald Trump boosted an accusation that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was guilty of "grooming" underage girls shortly after DeSantis defended the former president over the "Russia collusion hoax."
DeSantis, who is widely viewed as Trump's likely 2024 GOP presidential primary opponent despite not officially announcing his candidacy, took part in a roundtable discussion about "media defamation practices" on Tuesday morning.
During the discussion, the governor referred to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into allegations that Trump's 2016 campaign team colluded with Russia as the "Russia collusion hoax," echoing a phrase that is often repeated by the ex-president himself.

Within hours, Trump went on a rampage against DeSantis in a series of Truth Social posts. In two posts, Trump shared an image that purportedly showed the governor drinking alcohol with teenage girls that he was responsible for teaching at a high school in Georgia.
Trump on Tuesday shared an image to Truth Social claiming that DeSantis, his potential 2024 GOP primary rival, was allegedly guilty of "grooming" underage girls while working as a high school teacher.
A version of the image shared by Trump on Truth Social featured the caption,"Here is Ron DeSanctimonious grooming high school girls with alcohol as a teacher."
The former president commented, "That's not Ron, is it? He would never do such a thing!" While sharing the picture a second time, he added, "No way?"
Some on social media were quick to point out that the Florida governor and his teamhad previously pushed rhetoric baselessly claiming that LGBTQ people are guilty of "grooming" children.
"Ron DeSantis has waged a hateful war against the LGBTQ community and frequently called all of us 'groomers,'" writer and actor Benjamin Siemon tweeted. "That Donald Trump is now insinuating DeSantis is a pedophile is truly delicious and deserved."

Trump shared another Truth Social post on Tuesday that accused the Florida governor of not supporting Trump's border wall in 2018, prompting the former president to suggest that he regretted his endorsement of DeSantis.
"Wow, if I knew that I wouldn't have Endorsed him (and he would have had to quit the race, down 35 points!)," Trump wrote while sharing the post.
The former president shared additional posts that blasted DeSantis for denouncing "Trump's obsession with election fraud" and saying that he was "glad" violent January 6 rioters were arrested following Trump's 2020 loss to President Joe Biden.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shares-ron-desantis-grooming-accusation-meme-governor-defends-him-1779639



The vetting process has begun. DeSantis will take far harder shots than that from Democrats. And he has weaknesses. Will have to up his game. Time to go to work on them.

your 11th Amendment comment is heavily pregnant with irony.
Reagan is the Independents' icon because he would be cast out by you "conservatives".
you live in a very small world of your own construction


Your post is ironical & farcical. A great Baghdad Bob
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In reply to whiterock • 10:47a, 2/10/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:

Frequency of 11th commandment violations going up. Meanwhile, DeSantis defends Trump

Trump Shares DeSantis 'Grooming' Accusation Just as Governor Defends Him

Former President Donald Trump boosted an accusation that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was guilty of "grooming" underage girls shortly after DeSantis defended the former president over the "Russia collusion hoax."
DeSantis, who is widely viewed as Trump's likely 2024 GOP presidential primary opponent despite not officially announcing his candidacy, took part in a roundtable discussion about "media defamation practices" on Tuesday morning.
During the discussion, the governor referred to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into allegations that Trump's 2016 campaign team colluded with Russia as the "Russia collusion hoax," echoing a phrase that is often repeated by the ex-president himself.

Within hours, Trump went on a rampage against DeSantis in a series of Truth Social posts. In two posts, Trump shared an image that purportedly showed the governor drinking alcohol with teenage girls that he was responsible for teaching at a high school in Georgia.
Trump on Tuesday shared an image to Truth Social claiming that DeSantis, his potential 2024 GOP primary rival, was allegedly guilty of "grooming" underage girls while working as a high school teacher.
A version of the image shared by Trump on Truth Social featured the caption,"Here is Ron DeSanctimonious grooming high school girls with alcohol as a teacher."
The former president commented, "That's not Ron, is it? He would never do such a thing!" While sharing the picture a second time, he added, "No way?"
Some on social media were quick to point out that the Florida governor and his teamhad previously pushed rhetoric baselessly claiming that LGBTQ people are guilty of "grooming" children.
"Ron DeSantis has waged a hateful war against the LGBTQ community and frequently called all of us 'groomers,'" writer and actor Benjamin Siemon tweeted. "That Donald Trump is now insinuating DeSantis is a pedophile is truly delicious and deserved."

Trump shared another Truth Social post on Tuesday that accused the Florida governor of not supporting Trump's border wall in 2018, prompting the former president to suggest that he regretted his endorsement of DeSantis.
"Wow, if I knew that I wouldn't have Endorsed him (and he would have had to quit the race, down 35 points!)," Trump wrote while sharing the post.
The former president shared additional posts that blasted DeSantis for denouncing "Trump's obsession with election fraud" and saying that he was "glad" violent January 6 rioters were arrested following Trump's 2020 loss to President Joe Biden.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-shares-ron-desantis-grooming-accusation-meme-governor-defends-him-1779639



The vetting process has begun. DeSantis will take far harder shots than that from Democrats. And he has weaknesses. Will have to up his game. Time to go to work on them.

your 11th Amendment comment is heavily pregnant with irony.
Trump is such a tone deaf buffoon. The same guy that said men should grab women by the ***** trying to denigrate DeSantis over a photo with women? How many women have accused him of sexual assault? How many photos of him and Epstein do we need to see? Covering up payments to playboy models and porn stars to hide his numerous affairs? And he really wants to get in a pissing match with DeSantis over abuse of women?

If this is all Trump's got, he's shooting blanks.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:50a, 2/10/23
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There is no justification to support Trump. None. He is the Democrats greatest weapon.
Sorry to see your TDS is flaring again.
Can you not find something more interesting to say instead of this stupid TDS? You are a broken record.
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