Mothra said:...those who will no longer vote for Trump.Redbrickbear said:How many people who voted for Biden in 2020 have since switched to Trump? If there are ANY, it’s a lot fewer than:
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 14, 2024
Ann's right again.
current polling shows those that wouldnt vote for Trump a year ago are deciding that they will.. its easy to say you wont when its not vote time.. just like Dems dont like Biden but they will absolutely vote for him when its go time on Nov 5thMothra said:...those who will no longer vote for Trump.Redbrickbear said:How many people who voted for Biden in 2020 have since switched to Trump? If there are ANY, it’s a lot fewer than:
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 14, 2024
Ann's right again.
Nikki Haley right now https://t.co/tcVMj25B3O pic.twitter.com/j3LSvl9Ybo
— Dr. Richard Harambe (@Richard_Harambe) January 15, 2024
.@ABC Caucus results have Chris Christie (who exited the race!) and Asa Hutchinson listed ahead of Vivek. This is a slap in the face to voters. Actually pathetic. pic.twitter.com/cPn1e5JROO
— Tricia McLaughlin (@TriciaOhio) January 15, 2024
Agreed. Polling is quite different when the rubber meets the road.4th and Inches said:current polling shows those that wouldnt vote for Trump a year ago are deciding that they will.. its easy to say you wont when its not vote time.. just like Dems dont like Biden but they will absolutely vote for him when its go time on Nov 5thMothra said:...those who will no longer vote for Trump.Redbrickbear said:How many people who voted for Biden in 2020 have since switched to Trump? If there are ANY, it’s a lot fewer than:
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 14, 2024
Ann's right again.
I agree the other side is deranged and cultish. But to deny there is a cult of personality surrounding Trump is to deny reality.whiterock said:Mothra said:Sure it can. We have one of the least-informed electorates in the world. As a nation, we are near dead last in terms of our education system, when compared to other Western nations. Like it or not, we are a society of very ill-informed voters, and that exists all across the spectrum. You call that mean-spirited. I call it just stating the obvious. I suspect you wouldn't have a problem at all with me calling those on the left ill-informed.Redbrickbear said:Mothra said:Of course he does. His sycophants could never be accused of thinking rationally.KaiBear said:muddybrazos said:
Kai, Mothra,Fla, and JR hate to hear it
Do you really believe Donald Trump is going to be found innocent on both the state and federal charges and defeat the Democratic Party nominee in the general election this November ?
I am actually not a huge fan of Trump (he had his shot/time in the Big chair and I'm ready to move on to another candidate)
But it's pretty mean spirited to call the majority of the GOP voting base "sycophants".
Maybe we need to spend some time analyzing why Trump connects so well with the majority voters in the party in a way others don't?
And the answer can not be "me smart…voters stupid"
Now, that's not to say that people cannot identify with and connect with Trump, and what he was purportedly trying to do with his presidency. Hell, I liked the outsider perspective, and no-nonsense he brought to the table. I liked the non-interventionist approach, the crackdown on illegal immigration (somewhat) and calling out China. But at some point, the excess baggage and lack of results should be a stark reminder for MAGA that Trump is not the answer. He had his shot, and failed.
Trump has a cult of personality surrounding him among MAGA. That is a problem that most conservatives should be able to recognize, you included.
The "cult of personality" argument would be a lot more persuasive if there were not a much smaller yet louder and even more irrational "cult of never-anti-Trump"
I wish you were right, but I am afraid you're going to be disappointed. Again.Oldbear83 said:Mothra said:...those who will no longer vote for Trump.Redbrickbear said:How many people who voted for Biden in 2020 have since switched to Trump? If there are ANY, it’s a lot fewer than:
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 14, 2024
Ann's right again.
Ann is completely wrong ... Again.
Hate him all you want, but Trump has mojo and that means votes.
Historians are gonna puzzle over this coming election for along time after.
A former NYT opinion editor is in a panic because there are too many elections this year, and that’s a threat to “democracy.”
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 15, 2024
Why? Because voters might freely elect Trump or right-wing alternatives in Europe and Asia. Only maintaining the failing, unpopular status quo, he says,… pic.twitter.com/yiIaslNq4j
a democracy doing things that you don't want it to is not a threat to democracy but is in fact democracy in action..Jack Bauer said:A former NYT opinion editor is in a panic because there are too many elections this year, and that’s a threat to “democracy.”
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 15, 2024
Why? Because voters might freely elect Trump or right-wing alternatives in Europe and Asia. Only maintaining the failing, unpopular status quo, he says,… pic.twitter.com/yiIaslNq4j
4th and Inches said:a democracy doing things that you don't want it to is not a threat to democracy but is in fact democracy in action..Jack Bauer said:A former NYT opinion editor is in a panic because there are too many elections this year, and that’s a threat to “democracy.”
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) January 15, 2024
Why? Because voters might freely elect Trump or right-wing alternatives in Europe and Asia. Only maintaining the failing, unpopular status quo, he says,… pic.twitter.com/yiIaslNq4j
Entitled Morons
Vivek tells Alex Jones that the Deep State will “eliminate” Trump this summer if he is the nominee, so if MAGA people really love Trump they should vote for Vivek to protect Trump. pic.twitter.com/suy5BzIoi4
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) January 15, 2024
Many are debating Vivek now for obvious reasons.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 15, 2024
Whatever one's views, his campaign brought at least 2 clear positives:
1) He focused on the corruption of establishment DC and
2) He repeatedly reminded corporate media they're the largest spreaders of disinformation by far. https://t.co/R3PG2qy4tZ
The early results show an extraordinary educational divide, with Haley winning highly-educated areas but failing to obtain 10 percent in many less educated precincts pic.twitter.com/rjvq6NBqjg
— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 16, 2024
Iowa Caucus results (2% in):
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 16, 2024
Trump 55.3%
Haley 19%
DeSantis 17%
Ramaswamy 7.4%
Redbrickbear said:Many are debating Vivek now for obvious reasons.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 15, 2024
Whatever one's views, his campaign brought at least 2 clear positives:
1) He focused on the corruption of establishment DC and
2) He repeatedly reminded corporate media they're the largest spreaders of disinformation by far. https://t.co/R3PG2qy4tZ
I wonder why no one talks about Trump's post Presidency debt restructure. Hundreds of millions and cash off the table on questionably valued properties.Redbrickbear said:People drowning in student debt should do what Nikki Haley did: monetize their government connections to go on the board of Boeing, and then lavishly enrich themselves giving speeches to pro-war DC think tanks and advocacy groups, and then pay off their loans. https://t.co/O5xS96XEnf
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 12, 2024
The DeSantis campaign is claiming "election interference" after media organizations called the race in Trump's favor so early. pic.twitter.com/tb77HVFfLs
— Brianne Pfannenstiel (@brianneDMR) January 16, 2024
Except so many people who say they aren't going to vote for Trump in the primary actually are going to vote for Trump in the primary. He's the down low candidate. The shameful secret of so many who won't openly claim him.4th and Inches said:what they want is not relevant.. is it legal and we get our answet starting Feb 8Porteroso said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4405201-56-in-new-poll-willing-to-see-trump-disqualified-from-ballots-in-all-or-some-states/
More Americans than not are ok with Trump not being on ballots in some states. A third want him entirely disqualified.
You ROMLs (rabid orange man love) and zealots better wake up! He is not gonna win! Just wait until everything he says is front and center again. Media is combing through his 4 years for the juiciest clips and quotes, and boy do I remember some doozies.
I hope to see the bleach comment again!
Easy way to get him off the ballot, dont vote for him
CANDIDATE SPEECHES over at this site for the #IowaCaucus in West Des Moines. Voters jotted their candidate on sheet of paper before they were all collected in a brown grocery bag. pic.twitter.com/oP4QcauK99
— Jason Whitely (@JasonWhitely) January 16, 2024
AP called Iowa for Trump in 30 minutes as just nine of 1,657 precincts were reporting results — or under 1%.https://t.co/ulTg262mTA
— Axios (@axios) January 16, 2024
The massive and historic size of Trump's victory should lead to some self-reflection about what caused the complete collapse of faith in the legitimacy of US institutions of authority and justice, whereby voters so easily disregard 4 felony cases as irrelevant if not an asset.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 16, 2024
NPR is talking about ‘the path forward’ for Nikki Haley.
— FischerKing (@FischerKing64) January 16, 2024
IOWA AD SPENDING
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 16, 2024
TRUMP:
Spent: $18.2 Million
Dollars per vote: $340
ROB:
Spent: $34 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,697.96
HALEY:
Spent: $36 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,797.84
ATL Bear said:Except so many people who say they aren't going to vote for Trump in the primary actually are going to vote for Trump in the primary. He's the down low candidate. The shameful secret of so many who won't openly claim him.4th and Inches said:what they want is not relevant.. is it legal and we get our answet starting Feb 8Porteroso said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4405201-56-in-new-poll-willing-to-see-trump-disqualified-from-ballots-in-all-or-some-states/
More Americans than not are ok with Trump not being on ballots in some states. A third want him entirely disqualified.
You ROMLs (rabid orange man love) and zealots better wake up! He is not gonna win! Just wait until everything he says is front and center again. Media is combing through his 4 years for the juiciest clips and quotes, and boy do I remember some doozies.
I hope to see the bleach comment again!
Easy way to get him off the ballot, dont vote for him
🚨VIVEK: "As of this moment we are going to be suspending this Presidential campaign... This has to be an America First candidate in that White House... Earlier tonight I called Donald Trump... and now going forward he will have my full endorsement for President." pic.twitter.com/GdcSzKPf3z
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 16, 2024
Their tears only make the Iowa results that much better pic.twitter.com/7ycE33uuq1
— Mostly Peaceful Memes (@MostlyPeacefull) January 16, 2024
A real lack of self awareness on the left. I'm not going to disagree that Trump checks some autocratic boxes, but good grief they need a serious look in the mirror and what's going on in their own house.Jack Bauer said:Their tears only make the Iowa results that much better pic.twitter.com/7ycE33uuq1
— Mostly Peaceful Memes (@MostlyPeacefull) January 16, 2024
Oh, Vivek. You start saying reasonable things that I can get behind, and then you go on Infowars of all places and say this. SMH.boognish_bear said:Vivek tells Alex Jones that the Deep State will “eliminate” Trump this summer if he is the nominee, so if MAGA people really love Trump they should vote for Vivek to protect Trump. pic.twitter.com/suy5BzIoi4
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) January 15, 2024
In other words, the dumb people vote for Trump. There's a shocker.boognish_bear said:The early results show an extraordinary educational divide, with Haley winning highly-educated areas but failing to obtain 10 percent in many less educated precincts pic.twitter.com/rjvq6NBqjg
— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 16, 2024
There simply is no getting around the cult of personality.Redbrickbear said:IOWA AD SPENDING
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 16, 2024
TRUMP:
Spent: $18.2 Million
Dollars per vote: $340
ROB:
Spent: $34 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,697.96
HALEY:
Spent: $36 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,797.84
So Donald Trump, who is basically running as an incumbent, got the votes of 51% of 108,000 people who voted in the Iowa Caucus, which is just 14.4% of the state’s 752,000 registered Republicans, and this is supposedly why he'll easily win the general election? Ridiculous!
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 16, 2024
Couldn't agree more with Rod. He nails it.Redbrickbear said:
[So, Trump. It's hard to know what fresh thing to say about him. He's going to be the GOP nominee. I guess he always was. So many bad things on so many fronts seem inevitable now.
The United States faces a presidential election between two men unliked by most Americans. Most people don't want this, but it's happening, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it. A friend who works in an industry dominated by wokeness told me the other day that he plans to vote for Trump "and then puke." That'll probably be me too. I understand people voting Biden to stop Trump, because if I vote Trump and there's no way I'm voting Biden it will be to stop Biden.
It's not that I consider Biden to be more superficially reckless than Trump. It's because the Democratic Party has become so radical that even a normie rubber-stamper of what the party's Left wants is, to me, more dangerous even than Donald Trump. There is no limit to what Biden and his party want to do with race, with LGBT, with wokeness, with open borders. One of the more depressing aspects of Trump is that he has shown that he doesn't have the focus or the intelligence to reverse this decline. As I see it, we are left to decide between pedal to the metal decline, or slowing it down. A Ron DeSantis presidency, in my view, stood a decent chance of actually reversing at least some of this. But that's not in the cards this year.] -Rod Dreher
