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— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 18, 2024
“Framed in that way, of course not, and nobody else does either,” Ted Cruz says
Asked about Trump claiming ‘total’ immunity, he said: “That’s how the press is framing it. His legal argument is different.”
Didn’t explain how
MUST WATCH: Tucker stops in his tracks when asked about Nikki Haley then UNLOADS on her pic.twitter.com/gn7zlGHkCG
— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 19, 2024
The WEF has just committed suicide and unintentionally handed Donald J Trump the victory in the upcoming US election by telling American voters that he would destroy their globalist agenda.
— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) January 19, 2024
hiopefully enough Americans are awake enough to notice.
47 is an old white guy(alledgedly) are we voting like him?KaiBear said:They don't get it.Mothra said:Well, except that Haley and DeSantis have been polling better than Trump for weeks.4th and Inches said:
Its about who you ask and how you ask it
No doubt it will be another close election (loss, IMO) if it's Trump. But give me a candidate who can soundly beat Biden, instead of a retread loser who hasn't won a thing since 2016.
They are never going to get it.
They honestly believe the rest of the country thinks and votes like old white guys.
Oldbear83 said:So you found one or two you like.Mothra said:Read the link in the post about 5 posts above mine, as well as the separate thread I started that includes another poll that says the same thing.Oldbear83 said:
Where exactly have DeSantis and Haley been polling ahead of Trump?
https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/134912
I've posted 2-3 others over the last couple of months as well.
Sorry Clark, that does not make your statement true, as there are far more polls showing Trump in firm command.
Bottom line is that while DeSantis has governed well and Haley sometimes makes points, they are both piss-poor campaigners.
So I post two polls and reference several others that say DeSantis and Haley would perform better against Biden in a general election and your only retort is "sorry Clark that doesn't make it true?"
Lol. Classic Oldbear - putting his fingers in his ears and screaming really loudly. You're a hoot.
Tell you what, I'll give you a chance to prove your snarky point. Cite those many polls in the last couple of months that have Trump performing so much better against Biden than Haley and DeSantis in a general election. Should be pretty easy since you claim they're so many.
I'll hang up and listen.
Whiskey Pete said:
I suspect that Trump will win the Republican Primary hands down and either the establishment (with help from the dems) will find a way to keep him from being the nominee and slide Nikki Haley into his spot
or
They Trump ends up being the nominee and then they'll convince Haley to run independent.
More likely scenario is Trump is the nominee and wets the bed. Again.
Here's another:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/09/haley-electability-trump-biden-polls-00130926
Eh, but what does the Wall Street Journal know, eh Clark?
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/09/haley-electability-trump-biden-polls-00130926
Eh, but what does the Wall Street Journal know, eh Clark?
Already pushing Nikki Haley for no labels ticket:
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-01-18/haley-deserves-serious-consideration-for-no-labels-presidential-ticket-if-interested-co-chair-says
If Haley doesn't win NH, I'd be surprised if she doesn't drop out before South Carolina, before she gets beat in her own home state.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-01-18/haley-deserves-serious-consideration-for-no-labels-presidential-ticket-if-interested-co-chair-says
If Haley doesn't win NH, I'd be surprised if she doesn't drop out before South Carolina, before she gets beat in her own home state.
New Marist New Hampshire poll shows Biden’s approval rating at just 38%.
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) January 19, 2024
It also shows him leading Trump 52-45.
The media dunking on Trump at <checks notes>...Melania Trump's mother's funeral.
These people are evil.
These people are evil.
Separate cars. pic.twitter.com/upRRHaiQQ6
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) January 19, 2024
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
NoKaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
You repeat your same putrid idiocy over and over.
If such 'logic' made sense the Republican nominee would win every election.
But the nominee needs to appeal to INDEPENDENTS to win.
For the simple reason there are millions more registered Democrats than Republicans.
Really think a man under indictment of state and federal charges is going to win those independents ?
And if Trump gets convicted of even a single count ?
What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
Because you repeat the same idiocy over and over. You continually cast blame on Trump supporters but refuse to accept any of the blame yourself.KaiBear said:Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
You repeat your same putrid idiocy over and over.
If such 'logic' made sense the Republican nominee would win every election.
But the nominee needs to appeal to INDEPENDENTS to win.
For the simple reason there are millions more registered Democrats than Republicans.
Really think a man under indictment of state and federal charges is going to win those independents ?
And if Trump gets convicted of even a single count ?
Did I ever say he was going to win? I don't believe those words were ever typed by me.
I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy and you inability to accept that if Trumps when primary and loses the general, then you'll hold just as much blame as the others.
Wake up, fool.
You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
If ALL registered Republicans who voted in the primaries voted for the Republican nominee in the general.
While ALL registered Democrats who voted in their primaries voted for the Dem nominee in the general.
Dems are going to win because there are millions of more registered Democrats.
Republicans HAVE to appeal to a majority.independents to stand any real chance to win. And that reality has been in place regarding national elections for DECADES.
And an old fat narcissist under several felony indictments has zero chance to do so.
This little piece of reality has been steadfastly ignored by the Republican National Committee and Republican office holders.
Who are obviously more scared of billionaire Donald Trumps impact on their own re election races than another 4 years of a Democratic president.
End of story
Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
Don't vote for Trump in the primary, by all means. I won't.KaiBear said:
If ALL registered Republicans who voted in the primaries voted for the Republican nominee in the general.
While ALL registered Democrats who voted in their primaries voted for the Dem nominee in the general.
Dems are going to win because there are millions of more registered Democrats.
Republicans HAVE to appeal to a majority.independents to stand any real chance to win. And that reality has been in place regarding national elections for DECADES.
And an old fat narcissist under several felony indictments has zero chance to do so.
This little piece of reality has been steadfastly ignored by the Republican National Committee and Republican office holders.
Who are obviously more scared of billionaire Donald Trumps impact on their own re election races than another 4 years of a Democratic president.
End of story
But if that guy becomes the nominee, I'm sure as hell voting for him in the general.
When he loses, it won't be my fault, but it will partly be YOURS
End of Story
Whiskey Pete said:Don't vote for Trump in the primary, by all means. I won't.KaiBear said:
If ALL registered Republicans who voted in the primaries voted for the Republican nominee in the general.
While ALL registered Democrats who voted in their primaries voted for the Dem nominee in the general.
Dems are going to win because there are millions of more registered Democrats.
Republicans HAVE to appeal to a majority.independents to stand any real chance to win. And that reality has been in place regarding national elections for DECADES.
And an old fat narcissist under several felony indictments has zero chance to do so.
This little piece of reality has been steadfastly ignored by the Republican National Committee and Republican office holders.
Who are obviously more scared of billionaire Donald Trumps impact on their own re election races than another 4 years of a Democratic president.
End of story
But if that guy becomes the nominee, I'm sure as hell voting for him in the general.
When he loses, it won't be my fault, but it will partly be YOURS
End of Story
LOL
You must have the IQ of a horsefly.
Trumps selection will alienate independent voters by the millions. And without those independent votes Trump stands no chance of winning.
Republican strategists certainly understand this. But they don't have the guts to derail the Trump campaign like the Dems did to Ol Bernie in 2020.
By now even you know this.
But rather than admit the obvious you repeat your ridiculous mantra.
So bloody stupid .
Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
In local elections where one party dominates bad candidates can occasionally win.
Even horribly flawed candidates.
But in national elections the Republicans are outnumbered by Democrats. So this fantasy that party loyalty in general elections are all that is required for Trump to win is ludicrous.
KaiBear said:Whiskey Pete said:Don't vote for Trump in the primary, by all means. I won't.KaiBear said:
If ALL registered Republicans who voted in the primaries voted for the Republican nominee in the general.
While ALL registered Democrats who voted in their primaries voted for the Dem nominee in the general.
Dems are going to win because there are millions of more registered Democrats.
Republicans HAVE to appeal to a majority.independents to stand any real chance to win. And that reality has been in place regarding national elections for DECADES.
And an old fat narcissist under several felony indictments has zero chance to do so.
This little piece of reality has been steadfastly ignored by the Republican National Committee and Republican office holders.
Who are obviously more scared of billionaire Donald Trumps impact on their own re election races than another 4 years of a Democratic president.
End of story
But if that guy becomes the nominee, I'm sure as hell voting for him in the general.
When he loses, it won't be my fault, but it will partly be YOURS
End of Story
LOL
You must have the IQ of a horsefly. How would you know, do you talk to horseflies often?
Trumps selection will alienate independent voters by the millions. And without those independent votes Trump stands no chance of winning. Using your logic, then I should just stay home and not vote in the primary. Since, you know, Trump has got it locked up already. There's no way DeSantis can win. So, if I can't get my way, then I'll just take my toys and go home.
Boy, I'm a glad you weren't around during the American Revolution.
Republican strategists certainly understand this. But they don't have the guts to derail the Trump campaign like the Dems did to Ol Bernie in 2020. If the RNC subverted the will of their voters, then I have no use for the Republican party.
By now even you know this. You still can't accept that if you don't vote Trump, if he's the nominee, then you're just as much to blame as the other Never Trumpers (and yes, that includes the independent Never Trumpers). You don't get to cast blame on just on subset of people with accepting blame for your own (in)action.
But rather than admit the obvious you repeat your ridiculous mantra. You're too dense (or emotionally controlled) to do what you can (along with all the Never Trumpers) to keep Biden (or whichever progressive) out of the White House
So bloody stupid . Yes you are.
Yes Trump will be partly to blame.ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
It's just short-sighted and asinine to believe if Biden walks back into the White House, it's only the fault of those stupid Trump voters.
I'd rather DeSantis be the nominee. But, it's almost a certainty not going to happen. So we can do two things 1) Piss and moan and gripe about Trump and blame the stupid MAGA people who voted for him in the White House or 2) Go vote for the bad orange boogey man.
Yes, Trump is a brash ******* who has no filter and invites chaos. The guy can't even pick and choose his battles. He gives the democrats and media too much ammunition and frankly his last go 'round was very tiresome to watch. But is sure was a hell of a lot better than the ****show we've had the past 3 years.
I'm not talking party loyalty. I'm talking Never Trumpers, or do you not understand that? The Never Trumpers exist across the political spectrum.KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
In local elections where one party dominates bad candidates can occasionally win.
Even horribly flawed candidates.
But in national elections the Republicans are outnumbered by Democrats. So this fantasy that party loyalty in general elections are all that is required for Trump to win is ludicrous.
If you think has Biden and his policies have been awful for this country and you just sit home and let him walk back into the White House, then that's partly on you and the rest of the Never Trumpers.
This isn't hard to understand
The MAGA crowd will be to blame when Trump wins the primary
The MAGA crowd will be partly to blame when Trump loses the election, along with the blame of the Never Trumpers.
But please, stay home and not vote the big bad orange man because you think here's no point in voting anyway.
So effin' stupid.
Whiskey Pete said:Yes Trump will be partly to blame.ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
It's just short-sighted and asinine to believe if Biden walks back into the White House, it's only the fault of those stupid Trump voters.
I'd rather DeSantis be the nominee. But, it's almost a certainty not going to happen. So we can do two things 1) Piss and moan and gripe about Trump and blame the stupid MAGA people who voted for him in the White House or 2) Go vote for the bad orange boogey man.
Yes, Trump is a brash ******* who has no filter and invites chaos. The guy can't even pick and choose his battles. He gives the democrats and media too much ammunition and frankly his last go 'round was very tiresome to watch. But is sure was a hell of a lot better than the ****show we've had the past 3 years.
Repeating the same ridiculous mantra while ignoring the realities in the relative numbers of registered Republicans versus registered Democrats is simply bizarre.
That you are vainly attempting to blame the voters instead of the candidate himself is even more bizarre.
Maybe whiskey and the resulting dead brain cells are the problem.
Whiskey Pete said:ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
Yes, Trump is a brash ******* who has no filter and invites chaos. The guy can't even pick and choose his battles. He gives the democrats and media too much ammunition and frankly his last go 'round was very tiresome to watch. But is sure was a hell of a lot better than the ****show we've had the past 3 years.
Dummy
If you as a registered Republican have such an opinion of Trump
Just what in the hell makes you think INDEPENDENTS are going to vote for Trump in the numbers required for him to overcome the Dems numerical advantage?
And if it's obvious Trump can't get those independent voters, he is going to lose.
But nominate Trump irregardless ?
That's NOT on MAGA voters . Hell many just love his free comedy routine.
But party leadership is supposed to LEAD.
And the Republican hierarchy has abandoned that function.
So they are going ( apparently willingly ) to ensure the election of the Dems with all the chaos and hell that will result .
You're the one repeating the same shiite. The fact you can't comprehend "Never Trumpers", shows me you're an idiot.KaiBear said:Whiskey Pete said:Yes Trump will be partly to blame.ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
It's just short-sighted and asinine to believe if Biden walks back into the White House, it's only the fault of those stupid Trump voters.
I'd rather DeSantis be the nominee. But, it's almost a certainty not going to happen. So we can do two things 1) Piss and moan and gripe about Trump and blame the stupid MAGA people who voted for him in the White House or 2) Go vote for the bad orange boogey man.
Yes, Trump is a brash ******* who has no filter and invites chaos. The guy can't even pick and choose his battles. He gives the democrats and media too much ammunition and frankly his last go 'round was very tiresome to watch. But is sure was a hell of a lot better than the ****show we've had the past 3 years.
Repeating the same ridiculous mantra while ignoring the realities in the relative numbers of registered Republicans versus registered Democrats is simply bizarre.
That you are vainly attempting to blame the voters instead of the candidate himself is even more bizarre.
Maybe whiskey and the resulting dead brain cells are the problem.
I said on another post he's partly to blame as well. You just can't accept the fact you would've played a role too.
I bet you're the type of guy that believes anyone driving faster than you is an idiot and everyone driving slower than you is a moron.
You're a clown.
Whiskey Pete said:You're the one repeating the same shiite. The fact you can't comprehend "Never Trumpers", shows me you're an idiot.KaiBear said:Whiskey Pete said:Yes Trump will be partly to blame.ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
It's just short-sighted and asinine to believe if Biden walks back into the White House, it's only the fault of those stupid Trump voters.
I'd rather DeSantis be the nominee. But, it's almost a certainty not going to happen. So we can do two things 1) Piss and moan and gripe about Trump and blame the stupid MAGA people who voted for him in the White House or 2) Go vote for the bad orange boogey man.
Yes, Trump is a brash ******* who has no filter and invites chaos. The guy can't even pick and choose his battles. He gives the democrats and media too much ammunition and frankly his last go 'round was very tiresome to watch. But is sure was a hell of a lot better than the ****show we've had the past 3 years.
Repeating the same ridiculous mantra while ignoring the realities in the relative numbers of registered Republicans versus registered Democrats is simply bizarre.
That you are vainly attempting to blame the voters instead of the candidate himself is even more bizarre.
Maybe whiskey and the resulting dead brain cells are the problem.
I said on another post he's partly to blame as well. You just can't accept the fact you would've played a role too.
I bet you're the type of guy that believes anyone driving faster than you is an idiot and everyone driving slower than you is a moron.
You're a clown.
Tell me this dummy.
How is Trump going to win enough INDEPENDENT voters to make up the deficit in registered voters ?
Because if EVERY registered voter ; votes for his party's nominee in the general…..,
Trump loses.
Come on dummy.
Tell me how Trump makes up the vote deficit.
I'm not a registered Republican, dumb-ass.KaiBear said:Whiskey Pete said:ATL Bear said:Apologies if you didn't say uniparty, but a lot of the Trump lot fling that around.Whiskey Pete said:Never once did I say the Trump voters wouldn't be to blame. I have said, more than once, that the Never Trumpers will be as much to blame as the Only Trumpers.ATL Bear said:You openly blame people voting for Biden. Why shouldn't the Trump voters get the same scrutiny? And for all the "uniparty" "swamp" fist pounding, it's odd to see the criticisms being leveled at those that would actually be voting against that cycle.Whiskey Pete said:What is it with? Well, genius, my beef is with people who sit on their high horse and try to blame people for voting for Trump in the primary, but refuse to accept any blame for they themselves not voting for Trump in the general.FLBear5630 said:What is it with you and this if you don't love Trump you are pro-Biden??? The two are not related. If on November 1st we are in that position, than it is a decision to make. To say in January not supporting Trump is giving Biden the WH is ridiculous. My dislike of Trump has NOTHING to do with Biden. Biden is the worst President in history. It is not an either/or until November.Whiskey Pete said:Yep, the Never Trumpers (like yourself) won't check their emotions at the door, apply a little logic and just let Biden waltz right back into the White House.KaiBear said:Good grief man; forget this ' poll game '.Oldbear83 said:
I'm glad you are having fun, Mothra. But you continue to cherry-pick polls, and that won't go where you seem to think.
As for your last line, it would be nice if you started listening, but I won't hold my breath.
Let's cut to the chase.
Do you predict Trump is going to receive enough votes from women, minorites, and independents to overcome his possible convictions on multiple indictments regarding both state and federal charges ?
That Donald Trump can WIN back the White House ?
One word answers.
Mine is ' no '.
If you want to blame those voting for Trump in the primary, then you need to blame yourself for not voting for Trump in the general.
If you don't want to vote for Trump, then don't, but don't pretend it's only Trump supporters that are too blame and none of it falls on the Never Trumpers.
And I'm a DeSantis guy.
I've never said anything about "uniparty"
And make no mistake, Donald Trump, not any voters, are to blame. Bad candidates are bad candidates and he chose to run when he didn't have to.
Yes, Trump is a brash ******* who has no filter and invites chaos. The guy can't even pick and choose his battles. He gives the democrats and media too much ammunition and frankly his last go 'round was very tiresome to watch. But is sure was a hell of a lot better than the ****show we've had the past 3 years.
Dummy
If you as a registered Republican have such an opinion of Trump
Just what in the hell makes you think INDEPENDENTS are going to vote for Trump in the numbers required for him to overcome the Dems numerical advantage?
And if it's obvious Trump can't get those independent voters, he is going to lose.
But nominate Trump irregardless ?
That's NOT on MAGA voters . Hell many just love his free comedy routine. They can't understand why the ready of the country is tired of their fat freak.
But party leadership is supposed to LEAD.
And the Republican hierarchy has abandoned that function.
So they are going ( apparently willingly ) to ensure the election of the Dems with all the chaos and hell that will result .
Holy ****, you really are about as bright as a broken light bulb. You keep arguing points I'm not even trying to make.
This post of yours shows me that you comprehension skills are along the same lines as Biden. Where the in **** did I say you should nominate Trump? Holy cow, you really are an idiot.
You're not a fool, but a clown and an idiot.
By the way, I though you put me on ignore. Couldn't help yourself, I see.