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9:56p, 8/27/24
Finally! A new yougov poll is out. Harris +1

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11:44p, 8/27/24
Trump thinks California must have been stolen too because he had big turn outs at his rallies there.

California has voted Democrat every time in the Presidential elections since the 90s. In 2020 it was 64% Biden and 34% Trump. In 2016 it was 62% Hillary and 32% Trump.

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In reply to 4th and Inches • 7:19a, 8/28/24
4th and Inches said:
Finally! A new yougov poll is out. Harris +1

winning independents by 10pts, with men & women vote a point away from identical.....and he's only up by 1?
Buried in the fine print: poll over-sampled Democrats by 6 points - 33% Democratic, 27% Republican. Take away 4 pts worth of Democrat results and replace them with independent results, giving Dems only a 2pt advantage in party ID (where Rasmussen insist the electorate actually is)......and the race is not that close.

very good result for him at this point in the race.
explains why she's stealing his policy positions: no-tax tips, child tax credit, border wall, etc.......

and, as noted in the article associated with the poll......no convention bounce for Harris.
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In reply to BusyTarpDuster2017 • 8:37a, 8/28/24
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Bestweekeverr said:
boognish_bear said:
Ah yes the trusted Fox News network that *checks notes* knowingly lied to its audience about Mike Lindell and Sidney Powell's fake Dominion voting machine claims because they were losing viewers to NewsMax and OAN.
Yeah, they should be more like the liberal networks who told us Biden was in the best shape they'd ever seen, and who constantly peddled the lies of BLM, Russian collusion, Hunter's laptop, Covington kids, "good people on both sides", "Kamala was never the border czar", illegal migrants being whipped by Border Patrol, "kids in cages", Covid lab leak is a conspiracy theory, etc and that's just a sample, we can go on and on.....
Fox News had emails coming out calling their audience dumb and paid out the largest defamation suit in history and their defense was "no reasonable person would believe this" and you still defend them? LOL

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8:38a, 8/28/24
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 10:03a, 8/28/24
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Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
Indeed, ANC staff apparently was way out of line.
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In reply to whiterock • 10:07a, 8/28/24
whiterock said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
Indeed, ANC staff apparently was way out of line.
How so?

It sounds like Trump staff tried to bring cameras into Section 60 which isn't allowed
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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 10:17a, 8/28/24
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Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 11:27a, 8/28/24
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


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In reply to whiterock • 11:34a, 8/28/24
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?

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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 11:38a, 8/28/24
Bestweekeverr said:
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?

Looks like the family was not just fine with it, but on board with it, which would be the operative standard.

More to the point, a grave-side photo op with family is not the scenario alleged.
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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 12:32p, 8/28/24
Bestweekeverr said:
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?

At least his hands aren't all over the little girl like Bidens would have been, after sniffing her hair.

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In reply to whiterock • 1:06p, 8/28/24
whiterock said:
Bestweekeverr said:
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?

Looks like the family was not just fine with it, but on board with it, which would be the operative standard.

More to the point, a grave-side photo op with family is not the scenario alleged.
Yeah I know, just saying it's clearly a weird photo op.

It sounds like the alleged scenario occurred because Trump's staff misread the email they received from ANC. The email says that "former President Trump may have an official photographer and/or videographer outside of the main media pool," but it does not suggest Trump's photographer was given special access.



So basically Trump's staff misread the email and thought they were allowed in to section 60 with their cameras and tried to push their way through after being told no.
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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 2:07p, 8/28/24
Bestweekeverr said:
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?
Weird like this...

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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 2:12p, 8/28/24
Bestweekeverr said:
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?


Smiling at a location where 20 students and 6 staff were killed...that must mean he doesn't care!
Or maybe he's just trying to bring a little joy to a tragic situation.

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In reply to Jack Bauer • 2:21p, 8/28/24
Jack Bauer said:
Bestweekeverr said:
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?
Weird like this...

One is posing for a picture (Trump), the other just had their picture taken (Biden)... Do you understand the difference?
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 2:24p, 8/28/24
Jack Bauer said:
Bestweekeverr said:
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


No weird photo ops like this one? Thumbs up at a grave?


Smiling at a location where 20 students and 6 staff were killed...that must mean he doesn't care!
Or maybe he's just trying to bring a little joy to a tragic situation.

How many whataboutisms do you have?

I was simply refuting the claim that there wasn't a photo op taken. That's not debatable.

It's debatable whether or not it was weird/strange. I think thumbs up on a grave site is weird, but maybe there's context I'm missing.
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 6:02p, 8/28/24
4th and Inches said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:
Trump has released another series of trading cards




Maybe they were right. "Weird" fits.
this is the least weird thing any politician has done recently.

The bible was weird.
Have you seen the images and that there are cut up pieces of a suit included? Yeah, it's pretty weird.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 6:06p, 8/28/24
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That's how you punch back.
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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 6:29p, 8/28/24
Mister, the only thing you "refuted" in this thread, is the idea that you listen to Reason ...
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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7:12p, 8/28/24
Not sure why Pennsylvania isn't included

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In reply to ATL Bear • 7:29p, 8/28/24
ATL Bear said:
4th and Inches said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:
Trump has released another series of trading cards




Maybe they were right. "Weird" fits.
this is the least weird thing any politician has done recently.

The bible was weird.
Have you seen the images and that there are cut up pieces of a suit included? Yeah, it's pretty weird.
Been working for baseball and football player cards for years. Not weird.

He's been famous for years, been in hundreds of Rap videos, been on television, had his own board game.

He's one of the few people that can capitalize this way in the space. Call it weird but it works.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:30p, 8/28/24
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Not sure why Pennsylvania isn't included

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7:43p, 8/28/24


He was invited by the 13 families.
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In reply to txturtlegirl • 7:51p, 8/28/24
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He was invited by the 13 families.
yes he was..

They are using this to stir up vets like the suckers and losers comment. Trump is not what you see in the media. He has done amazing things for people most have never heard about and he cares about the troops. He wants them all home safe.
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In reply to whiterock • 8:28p, 8/28/24
whiterock said:
4th and Inches said:
Bestweekeverr said:
Not the best look...

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery
nobody talked to the gold star families.. a reporter has called and talked to them. Nobody from NPR reached out.
When alphabet media publishes an allegation about Trump, assume it's incorrect, because it almost alway sis. Beltway bureaucrats have made up a lot of BS about Trump over the years.


The sad thing is they don't HAVE TO MAKE IT UP. He does. They should just stick to reporting what he says and posts. NO need to make anything up about The Donald.
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In reply to Bestweekeverr • 9:46p, 8/28/24
Bestweekeverr said:
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Bestweekeverr said:
boognish_bear said:
Ah yes the trusted Fox News network that *checks notes* knowingly lied to its audience about Mike Lindell and Sidney Powell's fake Dominion voting machine claims because they were losing viewers to NewsMax and OAN.
Yeah, they should be more like the liberal networks who told us Biden was in the best shape they'd ever seen, and who constantly peddled the lies of BLM, Russian collusion, Hunter's laptop, Covington kids, "good people on both sides", "Kamala was never the border czar", illegal migrants being whipped by Border Patrol, "kids in cages", Covid lab leak is a conspiracy theory, etc and that's just a sample, we can go on and on.....
Fox News had emails coming out calling their audience dumb and paid out the largest defamation suit in history and their defense was "no reasonable person would believe this" and you still defend them? LOL

Who's defending Fox News? Do you know how to read and comprehend?

And cite your evidence that Fox called their audience dumb. I have a feeling that you got that from a liberal news media lie, which would of course be hilariously ironic.
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In reply to BusyTarpDuster2017 • 9:53p, 8/28/24
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Bestweekeverr said:
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Bestweekeverr said:
boognish_bear said:
Ah yes the trusted Fox News network that *checks notes* knowingly lied to its audience about Mike Lindell and Sidney Powell's fake Dominion voting machine claims because they were losing viewers to NewsMax and OAN.
Yeah, they should be more like the liberal networks who told us Biden was in the best shape they'd ever seen, and who constantly peddled the lies of BLM, Russian collusion, Hunter's laptop, Covington kids, "good people on both sides", "Kamala was never the border czar", illegal migrants being whipped by Border Patrol, "kids in cages", Covid lab leak is a conspiracy theory, etc and that's just a sample, we can go on and on.....
Fox News had emails coming out calling their audience dumb and paid out the largest defamation suit in history and their defense was "no reasonable person would believe this" and you still defend them? LOL

Who's defending Fox News? Do you know how to read and comprehend?

And cite your evidence that Fox called their audience dumb. I have a feeling that you got that from a liberal news media lie, which would of course be hilariously ironic.
Surprised not surprised.

It was very serious when 60 Minutes ran basically the same story, but it was about 2016 so it was okay.

https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/LSMVXbuWDda0fuDxSfINPfxIInE_i7MZ/
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In reply to boognish_bear • 11:09p, 8/28/24
boognish_bear said:
Question, why is Trump polling way better than Lake in AZ?
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In reply to ScottS • 11:18p, 8/28/24
ScottS said:
boognish_bear said:
Question, why is Trump polling way better than Lake in AZ?


Lake has always been a failure in Arizona for some reason.

Obviously I'm not in the State so I can not explain it…but it's a noticeable thing.

Trump does well…Lake does not
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