The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
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FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
As for her, a US Diplomat was happy that a coup overthrew a Russian plant President? OMG, what next. Of course she was happy. Before you go into that he wasn't a Russian plant, where did he go and where is he now? Russia... Next thing you will tell us is that they have hurricanes along the Gulf Coast.
FLBear5630 said:He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
Robert Kagan is more than just a reporter....and you know that
Technically is not a reporter at all....he is a self styled writer and foreign policy "expert".
And he is deeply tied into the DC foreign policy blob
[He served in the State Department and as a member of the Policy Planning Staff, as principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George P. Shultz, and as deputy for policy in the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.
Robert Kagan is a Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution
Kagan is a lecturer at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
Jack Bauer said:🚨Ballot drop boxes with completed votes have just been set on fire in Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR. Expect more wild stuff this week. Stay vigilant. pic.twitter.com/qTXHPXZc2h
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) October 28, 2024
Whoever did this is a hero. The sole objective of using drop boxes is to facilitate voter fraud.
not a fan of this action because people have lost their vote and may not be able to vote due to time and other constraints but it will make security tighter on them which should reduce potential abuseThe_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:🚨Ballot drop boxes with completed votes have just been set on fire in Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR. Expect more wild stuff this week. Stay vigilant. pic.twitter.com/qTXHPXZc2h
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) October 28, 2024
Whoever did this is a hero. The sole objective of using drop boxes is to facilitate voter fraud.
“The Internet is just a world passing around notes in a classroom.”
Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart
The Biden-Harris admin created an Elections Threats Task Force to prosecute "threats" to elections.
— Daniel Greenfield - "Hang Together or Separately" (@Sultanknish) October 28, 2024
Every single prosecution, but 1, targeted Republicans.
Kamala warns Trump will "weaponize the DOJ against his political opponents".
Kamala actually did it.
Here's the proof. pic.twitter.com/bQZOeTzUC8
I searched and found the episode with no problem using "Joe Rogan Trump interview".
You can’t search for the Joe Rogan Trump interview on YouTube even when searching by the episode number 2219, yet you can search for ANY OTHER episode that way (2216, 2217, 2218). It’s being singled out.
— Jason DeBolt ⚡️ (@jasondebolt) October 28, 2024
The Rogan-Trump interview cannot be found right now with ANY possible YT… https://t.co/hwuB2vAeir
Tarrant County has crossed the 30% turnout threshold as of 5p. Today is day 8 of early voting.
— Steven Dial (@StevenDialFox4) October 28, 2024
A total of 415,852 people have voted early, 31.4 percent turnout. @FOX4
4th and Inches said:not a fan of this action because people have lost their vote and may not be able to vote due to time and other constraints but it will make security tighter on them which should reduce potential abuseThe_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:🚨Ballot drop boxes with completed votes have just been set on fire in Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR. Expect more wild stuff this week. Stay vigilant. pic.twitter.com/qTXHPXZc2h
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) October 28, 2024
Whoever did this is a hero. The sole objective of using drop boxes is to facilitate voter fraud.
I doubt it.
Drop boxes are a very recent development and were clearly designed to dump fake ballots.
Kamala Harris' VP choice Tim Walz had secret fling with daughter of top Chinese Communist official during teaching stint in China
This part...
This part...
Quote:
Tim Walz had a secret fling with the daughter of a high-ranking Communist official during his 1989 teaching stint in China, DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal.
But their romance blossomed behind closed doors as they sipped tea, made love and listened to George Michael hits leading the then 24-year-old Wang to dream about marriage and a new life in the United States.
No proposal was forthcoming from the future Minnesota governor, however, and the shame of being treated 'like a prostitute' eventually left Wang feeling angry and suicidal, she claims.
Fraud occurs when three elements are present: opportunity, pressure, and rationalization. This is known as the fraud triangle.
🚨BREAKING: Nevada Supreme Court DENIES Republican appeal in mail-in ballot lawsuit. Non-postmarked ballots received up to three days after Election Day will be counted.
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) October 28, 2024
A big victory for the voters of Nevada and our clients. Another loss for the RNC.https://t.co/NSmCAvpiW1
On Homecoming weekend vs. Penn State
— American Kulak, heritage stock (@joesmithreally) October 27, 2024
And? So what. The guy is entitled to his opinion and he is making a living from it. In a Capitalistic society that is a positive, or was. I know you are more from the "Workers Control of Production" school, but he is entitled to an opinion and get paid for it. Based on what is going on he was a friggin visionary and ahead of his time.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
Robert Kagan is more than just a reporter....and you know that
Technically is not a reporter at all....he is a self styled writer and foreign policy "expert".
And he is deeply tied into the DC foreign policy blob
[He served in the State Department and as a member of the Policy Planning Staff, as principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George P. Shultz, and as deputy for policy in the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.
Robert Kagan is a Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution
Kagan is a lecturer at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
I did not have this on my 2024 bingo card.
— Alyssa D (@AlyssaD1776) October 28, 2024
that is nuts..Jacques Strap said:
Fraud occurs when three elements are present: opportunity, pressure, and rationalization. This is known as the fraud triangle.🚨BREAKING: Nevada Supreme Court DENIES Republican appeal in mail-in ballot lawsuit. Non-postmarked ballots received up to three days after Election Day will be counted.
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) October 28, 2024
A big victory for the voters of Nevada and our clients. Another loss for the RNC.https://t.co/NSmCAvpiW1
Non post marked ballots up to 3 days after? What insanity thinks thats ok
What does the law actually say? The judge should only interpret law, not create it
“The Internet is just a world passing around notes in a classroom.”
Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart
4th and Inches said:that is nuts..Jacques Strap said:
Fraud occurs when three elements are present: opportunity, pressure, and rationalization. This is known as the fraud triangle.🚨BREAKING: Nevada Supreme Court DENIES Republican appeal in mail-in ballot lawsuit. Non-postmarked ballots received up to three days after Election Day will be counted.
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) October 28, 2024
A big victory for the voters of Nevada and our clients. Another loss for the RNC.https://t.co/NSmCAvpiW1
Non post marked ballots up to 3 days after? What insanity thinks thats ok
What does the law actually say? The judge should only interpret law, not create it
Legacy of the Reid fraud machine.
Well, you can put NV in the democrat column. Non postmarked ballots means that they can basically back a semi full of fraudulent "mail in" ballots up and win it. No amount of voter enthusiasm can overcome that.
Demockracy!
Demockracy!
Coming later this week...The State Governments of Washington or Oregon put out a press release saying any resident of that state who dropped their ballot off in that drop box can vote again. No proof that you dropped your ballot there off is required.The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:🚨Ballot drop boxes with completed votes have just been set on fire in Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR. Expect more wild stuff this week. Stay vigilant. pic.twitter.com/qTXHPXZc2h
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) October 28, 2024
Whoever did this is a hero. The sole objective of using drop boxes is to facilitate voter fraud.
(D) = (D) x 2.
Not denying the statement, but what is the source of this information. Having been a poll worker for years I am very interested in where you got this report.
BUDOS said:
Not denying the statement, but what is the source of this information. Having been a poll worker for years I am very interested in where you got this report.
Good for you.
Well done sir.
There's a reason Kagan is a somebody. He is one of our wisest and most knowledgeable minds on geopolitical affairs. Policymakers on both sides of the aisle are wise to hear his views on current affairs.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
Robert Kagan is more than just a reporter....and you know that
Technically is not a reporter at all....he is a self styled writer and foreign policy "expert".
And he is deeply tied into the DC foreign policy blob
[He served in the State Department and as a member of the Policy Planning Staff, as principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George P. Shultz, and as deputy for policy in the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.
Robert Kagan is a Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution
Kagan is a lecturer at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
Below is Derek Ryan's analysis of Texas early voting data. He sends out a daily email, but this one is at the half-way mark:
==================================================================
Good evening! Sorry for sending this out a bit later than usual. There is so much going on these days...shocking, I know.
We have now completed one full week of early voting in Texas. According to my file, 5,460,729 people have voted. That equates to 29.3% of all registered voters in the state.
As a reminder, here are the final totals and percentages from previous presidential elections:
2020: 11,315,056 votes cast (Turnout: 66.7%)
2016: 8,969,226 votes cast (Turnout: 59.4%)
2012: 7,993,851 votes cast (Turnout: 58.6%)
This means we are nearly halfway to the total number of votes cast in 2020 and 61% of the way towards reaching to the total in 2016.
As a reminder, in 2020, 25% of all votes which were cast in the election came from the last week of early voting. In 2022 (so not truly an apples-to-apples comparison), 31% of all votes were cast in the final week of early voting.
Modeling Data
Individuals with previous Republican Primary history have a 651k vote advantage over voters with previous Democratic Primary history. As a reminder, the final advantage in 2020 ended up being 749k. Again, while this isn't a predictor of who is going to win the state, it does help paint a picture of how things are trending.
There are various other models that also show information on who has voted:
According to Spencer Davis, another voter data expert, a generic statewide Republican likely leads a generic statewide Democrat by 9.2% amongst votes which have already been cast.
According to Target Smart (which appeared to only account for voters through Friday/Saturday) has early voters split 52.6% Republican, 36.6% Democrat, and 10.8% Other. Based on this model, the Republicans could theoretically have a 780k vote advantage over Democrats.
According to L2-Data (which appeared to have voters accounted through the end of Saturday) has early voters split 54% Republican, 39% Democrat, and 7% Other. Their model doesn't include raw vote totals, but it's safe to assume that their model has an 800k+ vote advantage for Republicans.
Who is the "other" group in both of these models? People who either weren't modeled into one party or the other and/or new registrants who are too new to the system and, therefore, haven't received a modeling score.
Who Has NOT Voted?
There are still 6.8 million registered voters who have not voted early who voted in the 2020 and/or 2022 General Election. Of those, 1.4 million are voters who have most recently voted in a Republican Primary and 1.2 million are voters who have most recently voted in a Democratic Primary.
Women
I keep getting asked, "Are women showing up to vote?" 30% of women who are registered to vote have already cast their vote while 29% of men have voted. Women make up over half of the early vote and they have a 400k+ vote advantage over men. This isn't really a surprise because there are more women who are registered to vote than men. Amongst registered voters, women have a 900k+ advantage over men.
For comparison, in 2020, 68% of women and 64% of men ended up voting in the election and in 2016, 61% of women and 57% of men ended up voting in the election.
The turnout rate of women in the five largest counties is 28%; in the next 20 largest counties, their turnout rate is 31%; and in the remaining counties, their turnout rate is 31%. So currently, there doesn't seem to be much of a bump in the urban/suburban areas with a woman being at the top of the ticket.
Reports
For the report, click here.
For the county-by-county report, click here.
Final Comments
Comparisons to 2020 in the report are now in sync. The report shows totals for who has voted through the final (only) Sunday of early voting in 2024. The numbers for 2020 also show totals for who voted through the final Sunday of early voting in 2020.
==================================================================
Good evening! Sorry for sending this out a bit later than usual. There is so much going on these days...shocking, I know.
We have now completed one full week of early voting in Texas. According to my file, 5,460,729 people have voted. That equates to 29.3% of all registered voters in the state.
As a reminder, here are the final totals and percentages from previous presidential elections:
2020: 11,315,056 votes cast (Turnout: 66.7%)
2016: 8,969,226 votes cast (Turnout: 59.4%)
2012: 7,993,851 votes cast (Turnout: 58.6%)
This means we are nearly halfway to the total number of votes cast in 2020 and 61% of the way towards reaching to the total in 2016.
As a reminder, in 2020, 25% of all votes which were cast in the election came from the last week of early voting. In 2022 (so not truly an apples-to-apples comparison), 31% of all votes were cast in the final week of early voting.
Modeling Data
Individuals with previous Republican Primary history have a 651k vote advantage over voters with previous Democratic Primary history. As a reminder, the final advantage in 2020 ended up being 749k. Again, while this isn't a predictor of who is going to win the state, it does help paint a picture of how things are trending.
There are various other models that also show information on who has voted:
According to Spencer Davis, another voter data expert, a generic statewide Republican likely leads a generic statewide Democrat by 9.2% amongst votes which have already been cast.
According to Target Smart (which appeared to only account for voters through Friday/Saturday) has early voters split 52.6% Republican, 36.6% Democrat, and 10.8% Other. Based on this model, the Republicans could theoretically have a 780k vote advantage over Democrats.
According to L2-Data (which appeared to have voters accounted through the end of Saturday) has early voters split 54% Republican, 39% Democrat, and 7% Other. Their model doesn't include raw vote totals, but it's safe to assume that their model has an 800k+ vote advantage for Republicans.
Who is the "other" group in both of these models? People who either weren't modeled into one party or the other and/or new registrants who are too new to the system and, therefore, haven't received a modeling score.
Who Has NOT Voted?
There are still 6.8 million registered voters who have not voted early who voted in the 2020 and/or 2022 General Election. Of those, 1.4 million are voters who have most recently voted in a Republican Primary and 1.2 million are voters who have most recently voted in a Democratic Primary.
Women
I keep getting asked, "Are women showing up to vote?" 30% of women who are registered to vote have already cast their vote while 29% of men have voted. Women make up over half of the early vote and they have a 400k+ vote advantage over men. This isn't really a surprise because there are more women who are registered to vote than men. Amongst registered voters, women have a 900k+ advantage over men.
For comparison, in 2020, 68% of women and 64% of men ended up voting in the election and in 2016, 61% of women and 57% of men ended up voting in the election.
The turnout rate of women in the five largest counties is 28%; in the next 20 largest counties, their turnout rate is 31%; and in the remaining counties, their turnout rate is 31%. So currently, there doesn't seem to be much of a bump in the urban/suburban areas with a woman being at the top of the ticket.
Reports
For the report, click here.
For the county-by-county report, click here.
Final Comments
Comparisons to 2020 in the report are now in sync. The report shows totals for who has voted through the final (only) Sunday of early voting in 2024. The numbers for 2020 also show totals for who voted through the final Sunday of early voting in 2020.
I found it on the YouTube app on my TV and only typed in Rogan. It listed options with the full 3 hour interview prominently displayed.
How many of those were illegal?
It's a rhetorical question. Anyone who can accurately answer it won't.
It's a rhetorical question. Anyone who can accurately answer it won't.
No ballot received after Election Day should be counted anywhere. This screams fraud as the Dems quickly print up as many new fake ballots as they need in key states or precincts.
Realitybites said:Coming later this week...The State Governments of Washington or Oregon put out a press release saying any resident of that state who dropped their ballot off in that drop box can vote again. No proof that you dropped your ballot there off is required.The_barBEARian said:Jack Bauer said:🚨Ballot drop boxes with completed votes have just been set on fire in Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR. Expect more wild stuff this week. Stay vigilant. pic.twitter.com/qTXHPXZc2h
— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) October 28, 2024
Whoever did this is a hero. The sole objective of using drop boxes is to facilitate voter fraud.
(D) = (D) x 2.
State governments openly committing fraud!
FLBear5630 said:And? So what. The guy is entitled to his opinion and he is making a living from it. In a Capitalistic society that is a positive, or was. I know you are more from the "Workers Control of Production" school, but he is entitled to an opinion and get paid for it. Based on what is going on he was a friggin visionary and ahead of his time.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
Robert Kagan is more than just a reporter....and you know that
Technically is not a reporter at all....he is a self styled writer and foreign policy "expert".
And he is deeply tied into the DC foreign policy blob
[He served in the State Department and as a member of the Policy Planning Staff, as principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George P. Shultz, and as deputy for policy in the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.
Robert Kagan is a Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution
Kagan is a lecturer at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
Except he is actively trying to get the editor of the paper fired for not endorsing Harris for President
(Because he hates Trump and wants war with Russia)
He is not a good person…and shows what kind of people are in the neo-con camp.
What was the truth that was being poked fun of?4th and Inches said:because there are people in this world who cant take a joke..boognish_bear said:4th and Inches said:one) its a jokeboognish_bear said:The Trump campaign now says the comment by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe about Puerto Rico being a “floating island of garbage” doesn’t reflect Trump’s views.
— Kate Sullivan (@KateSullivanDC) October 28, 2024
“This joke does not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign,” Trump senior adviser Danielle Alvarez says.
2) the joke shouldnt be held against anybody except the person who said it.
3) its a joke
Why is the Trump campaign apologizing for it?
If you are offended by Mel Brooks movies, any stand up comic prior to 2010, anything Bill Burr has done, TV shows like In Living Color.. you are on the this list.
The best comedy pokes fun at the truth. Wasnt the best choice of joke considering the audience but way too many thin skinned people out there
the best comedy, this wast the bestATL Bear said:What was the truth that was being poked fun of?4th and Inches said:because there are people in this world who cant take a joke..boognish_bear said:4th and Inches said:one) its a jokeboognish_bear said:The Trump campaign now says the comment by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe about Puerto Rico being a “floating island of garbage” doesn’t reflect Trump’s views.
— Kate Sullivan (@KateSullivanDC) October 28, 2024
“This joke does not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign,” Trump senior adviser Danielle Alvarez says.
2) the joke shouldnt be held against anybody except the person who said it.
3) its a joke
Why is the Trump campaign apologizing for it?
If you are offended by Mel Brooks movies, any stand up comic prior to 2010, anything Bill Burr has done, TV shows like In Living Color.. you are on the this list.
The best comedy pokes fun at the truth. Wasnt the best choice of joke considering the audience but way too many thin skinned people out there
“The Internet is just a world passing around notes in a classroom.”
Jon Stewart
Jon Stewart
Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:And? So what. The guy is entitled to his opinion and he is making a living from it. In a Capitalistic society that is a positive, or was. I know you are more from the "Workers Control of Production" school, but he is entitled to an opinion and get paid for it. Based on what is going on he was a friggin visionary and ahead of his time.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
Robert Kagan is more than just a reporter....and you know that
Technically is not a reporter at all....he is a self styled writer and foreign policy "expert".
And he is deeply tied into the DC foreign policy blob
[He served in the State Department and as a member of the Policy Planning Staff, as principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George P. Shultz, and as deputy for policy in the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.
Robert Kagan is a Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution
Kagan is a lecturer at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
Except he is actively trying to get the editor of the paper fired for not endorsing Harris for President
(Because he hates Trump and wants war with Russia)
He is not a good person…and shows what kind of people are in the neo-con camp.
There are so many issues with your statement.
He is entitled to support who he wants, I voted for Trump. He is entitled to want his editor canned, happens every day.
You can't paint all neo-cons as the same. Just like all Trump supporters are not White Supremist.
Good person? You know him? Would he say u are a good person?
Geez, let's stick to policy. Trying to determine who is good and who is bad is a fools errand.
I don't care about his personal life. I don't care what he or his wife do. You guys seem to be pretty obsessed with Nunland.
it's almost like leftie obsession with Trump.FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:And? So what. The guy is entitled to his opinion and he is making a living from it. In a Capitalistic society that is a positive, or was. I know you are more from the "Workers Control of Production" school, but he is entitled to an opinion and get paid for it. Based on what is going on he was a friggin visionary and ahead of his time.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
Robert Kagan is more than just a reporter....and you know that
Technically is not a reporter at all....he is a self styled writer and foreign policy "expert".
And he is deeply tied into the DC foreign policy blob
[He served in the State Department and as a member of the Policy Planning Staff, as principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George P. Shultz, and as deputy for policy in the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.
Robert Kagan is a Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution
Kagan is a lecturer at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
Except he is actively trying to get the editor of the paper fired for not endorsing Harris for President
(Because he hates Trump and wants war with Russia)
He is not a good person…and shows what kind of people are in the neo-con camp.
There are so many issues with your statement.
He is entitled to support who he wants, I voted for Trump. He is entitled to want his editor canned, happens every day.
You can't paint all neo-cons as the same. Just like all Trump supporters are not White Supremist.
Good person? You know him? Would he say u are a good person?
Geez, let's stick to policy. Trying to determine who is good and who is bad is a fools errand.
I don't care about his personal life. I don't care what he or his wife do. You guys seem to be pretty obsessed with Nunland.
However one might quibble with her on policy, it's hardly a radical policy. She's hardly the only person advocating the policy. The better critique is that she has the right policy (opposing Russian territorial expansion) but has poorly conceived responses to counter it and/or is poorly executing those responses (both of which are true in her case).
Highlighting Harris' proposals? The mandatory gun buybacks? The forced redistribution of wealth? The censorship? The packing of the Supreme Court?
— Al Sway (@AlSwayUSA) October 28, 2024
Jimmy Dore: Trump's MSG Rally, WaPo Refusing to Endorse Kamala, & Why Trump Winning Is Essential
This is an interesting interview with a Democrat, one who is saying the sorts of things the Democrats used to say decades ago.
This is an interesting interview with a Democrat, one who is saying the sorts of things the Democrats used to say decades ago.
FLBear5630 said:Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:And? So what. The guy is entitled to his opinion and he is making a living from it. In a Capitalistic society that is a positive, or was. I know you are more from the "Workers Control of Production" school, but he is entitled to an opinion and get paid for it. Based on what is going on he was a friggin visionary and ahead of his time.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:He is a reporter.Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:The goofy thing to say is that Nunland having a conversation about Democracy in 2014 gave Russia the right to invade. That is goofy. You seem to have fixation on Nunland,Redbrickbear said:FLBear5630 said:Are we still on that? These nasty people hurt Putin's feelings so he invaded. Got it...Redbrickbear said:
Speaking of the intersection of domestic politics and Ukraine war.....
[Robert Kagan, William Kristol's longtime collaborator and Victoria Nuland's husband, has been an unremitting opponent of Donald Trump.
The prominent neoconservative Robert Kagan has resigned his position as an editor at large at the Washington Post due to the paper's Friday decision not to endorse a candidate for president. ]
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/neocon-grandee-kagan-resigns-over-post-non-endorsement/
[Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
Kagan is married to Victoria Nuland, a State Department official best known for her hawkish and anti-Russian views, including for her role in Ukraine's 2014 "Maidan" Color Revolution, and her promotion of the Russiagate hoax.]
An extremely simplistic and goofy thing to say... but ok
Maybe more its proof that we have some wack job neo-cons & liberal interventionists running the foreign policy of the USA.....who have been working hard for decades to get us into conflicts in parts of the world with very little importance to the geostrategic security concerns of the USA
And that at home they freak out when any candidate runs on a platform of reassessing our foreign policy and moving it away from interventionism
They also just happen to be bad people as well....Kagan is actively throwing a hissy fit and trying to get the editor of the Post fired because the paper won't come out against the Republican nominee for President
1. No one said a single conversation gave anyone a right to anything.
(did show she was kind of a jerk with the whole "**** the EU" thing and that she was strangely happy a domestic coup in Kyiv had been sparked off)
2. She is a major figure on foreign policy...so is her husband (the post above is specifically about him...not her)
You don't think they matter or don't have influence in DC?
[Robert Kagan has had a long career within neoconservative politics, founding with William Kristol of the Project for a New American Century. Both Kagan and Kristol advocating for regime-change in Iraq long-before the Iraq war, including in a New York Times op-ed in 1998. Throughout the conflict, Kagan repeatedly praised the Iraq War, declaring victory multiple times, praising the "surge," and claiming after the invasion that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were merely yet to be found. More recently, Kagan has served as a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.[
[ambassador Victoria Nuland assumed her position as Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs on September 18, 2013. As Assistant Secretary she is responsible for diplomatic relations with 50 countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. Previously, Ambassador Nuland served as State Department Spokesperson.
Ambassador Nuland was Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe from February 2010 until June 2011, and before that, she served on the faculty of the National War College. Ambassador Nuland was the 18th United States Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization from 2005 to 2008. As NATO Ambassador, she focused heavily on ...NATO-Russia issues, and on the Alliance's global partnerships and continued enlargement.
A career Foreign Service officer, Ambassador Nuland was Principal Deputy National Security Advisor to the Vice President from 2003 to 2005, and the U.S. Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO from 2000 until 2003. She also served as Deputy to the Ambassador- at-Large for the Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union, with primary responsibility for U.S. policy towards Russia and the Caucasus countries, and was twice a visiting fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations -- as a "Next Generation" Fellow looking at the effects of anti-Americanism on U.S. relations around the world, and as a State Department Fellow directing a task force on "Russia, its Neighbors and an Expanding NATO."]
Robert Kagan is more than just a reporter....and you know that
Technically is not a reporter at all....he is a self styled writer and foreign policy "expert".
And he is deeply tied into the DC foreign policy blob
[He served in the State Department and as a member of the Policy Planning Staff, as principal speechwriter for Secretary of State George P. Shultz, and as deputy for policy in the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs.
Robert Kagan is a Senior Fellow in Foreign Policy at the Brookings Institution
Kagan is a lecturer at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan
Except he is actively trying to get the editor of the paper fired for not endorsing Harris for President
(Because he hates Trump and wants war with Russia)
He is not a good person…and shows what kind of people are in the neo-con camp.
You guys seem to be pretty obsessed with Nunland.
And the Nulands seem pretty obsessed with spreading Russia hoax disinformation (apparently with the blessing of the CIA) and trying to shut down the free speech of other Americans
Victoria Nuland is now at the CIA’s #1 cut-out, the organization I keep warning you about, the prime mover in the censorship industry: the National Endowment for Democracy. https://t.co/hNJImPIVUm pic.twitter.com/wZzjmLwyrS
— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) October 29, 2024