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boognish_bear
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This is funny for the photo:

James Carville Destroyed His Reputation Cheerleading For Kamala Harris

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/01/02/james-carville-destroyed-his-reputation-for-kamala-harris-n4935610

Article is pretty interesting too.

“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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BUDOS
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I don't disagree; however, I doubt the average citizen will even notice or care either way.
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I'm assuming they mean with deportations. Anything else we might expect right off the bat?

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BUDOS said:

I don't disagree; however, I doubt the average citizen will even notice or care either way.

Correct: it's only because of the timing of Carter's death and has no other meaning. I am somewhat curious as to the extent the fascists propagandists will make hay over something so silly during the day. If they do, they will only make bigger asses of themselves than usual. At least we will be entertained by the likes of Scott Jennings who will point out their stupidity. Quite literally, Jennings is now the only reason to watch CNN and that's mainly for the entertainment value.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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That's sort of the definition of how politics really works
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FLBear5630
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boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...
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FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...
Yes he has never said otherwise. He just doesn't like the misallocation of funds that has gone on under Biden and other Democrats receently.
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ScottS said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...
Yes he has never said otherwise. He just doesn't like the misallocation of funds that has gone on under Biden and other Democrats receently.


I agree with that. NOLA is going to end up being a maintenance issue, the gates wouldn't raise.
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FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...
I see you've enrolled in ""Writing for Social Media 47""
where emotion Carrie's more weight than truth.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...
I see you've enrolled in ""Writing for Social Media 47""
where emotion Carrie's more weight than truth.


Who is Carrie? Don't know her.

If you are going to take shots at people, probably should spell correctly. Capital "C" and apostrophe "s" makes "carries" the verb a noun. Same with polish versus Polish.

Attention to detail matters, didn't they teach you that in basic training?

Quality, is so hard to find in today's society. Your trying and you get points for that. So keep pushing yourself, sort of like the fat person jogging. Not there yet, but the effort is there. Good for you. There will be other opportunities. Chin up...






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FLBear cannot refute the point, so he goes Grammar Nazi.

Telling.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
LIB,MR BEARS
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FLBear5630 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...
I see you've enrolled in ""Writing for Social Media 47""
where emotion Carrie's more weight than truth.


Who is Carrie? Don't know her.

If you are going to take shots at people, probably should spell correctly. Capital "C" and apostrophe "s" makes "carries" the verb a noun. Same with polish versus Polish.

Attention to detail matters, didn't they teach you that in basic training?

Quality, is so hard to find in today's society. Your trying and you get points for that. So keep pushing yourself, sort of like the fat person jogging. Not there yet, but the effort is there. Good for you. There will be other opportunities. Chin up...









It kind me of blows your point when you end with an incomplete sentence.And don't call me Chin. It's Mr Lee to you.

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Oldbear83 said:

FLBear cannot refute the point, so he goes Grammar Nazi.

Telling.


He's the only one here that knows the difference between helping Jack off the horse and helping jack off the horse…. and he has no friends named Jack.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...
I see you've enrolled in ""Writing for Social Media 47""
where emotion Carrie's more weight than truth.


Who is Carrie? Don't know her.

If you are going to take shots at people, probably should spell correctly. Capital "C" and apostrophe "s" makes "carries" the verb a noun. Same with polish versus Polish.

Attention to detail matters, didn't they teach you that in basic training?

Quality, is so hard to find in today's society. Your trying and you get points for that. So keep pushing yourself, sort of like the fat person jogging. Not there yet, but the effort is there. Good for you. There will be other opportunities. Chin up...









It kind me of blows your point when you end with an incomplete sentence.And don't call me Chin. It's Mr Lee to you.


Point taken, Mr. Lee.
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FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...

I don't think anyone doubts that. It is one of government's constitutional duties to protect the people. And police and fire protection is the responsibility of state & local governments. However, it is NOT government's job to run our lives and dictate everything we can & cannot do. We do not need or want tyrants but that's what we have with the fascists in charge.

January 20 cannot get here soon enough!
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
historian
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Don't you mean "you are" or "you're"?

It's easy to make those mistakes, especially when we let Siri do our typing.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, even Trump agrees that Government has responsibilities to provide services...

I don't think anyone doubts that. It is one of government's constitutional duties to protect the people. And police and fire protection is the responsibility of state & local governments. However, it is NOT government's job to run our lives and dictate everything we can & cannot do. We do not need or want tyrants but that's what we have with the fascists in charge.

January 20 cannot get here soon enough!
It was said tongue in cheek. I was poking some of our more anti-Government brethren.

I agree that the Government should not run our lives, but there is also an equity (as meant by the Founding Fathers) aspect of Government that does not lend it to be run like a business, privatized, monetized or totally innate of taking care of our citizens. Where the correct level belongs, is a great debate that has gone on for centuries.

Biden was too far toward Socialism, but we have to be just as careful not to knee jerk too far toward the pure Capitalism of Friedman (and I am a Friedman fan, loved Capitalism and Freedom it is on my office bookshelf my whole career. Gave copies to kids in HS. But that is also the other extreme.).
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I should have realized that.

The difficulty is in finding the proper balance. The more I learn about economics & politics, the history of both, and contemporary examples, the more I lean towards the laissez faire side of things. The govt is parasitical & destructive. It cannot create anything, it only destroys or threaten to destroy. All too often what govt does is evil. Today, many Californians are finding out the hard way. Last year it was hurricane victims. There are many other examples across a wide spectrum of activities illustrating this daily.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

I should have realized that.

The difficulty is in finding the proper balance. The more I learn about economics & politics, the history of both, and contemporary examples, the more I lean towards the laissez faire side of things. The govt is parasitical & destructive. It cannot create anything, it only destroys or threaten to destroy. All too often what govt does is evil. Today, many Californians are finding out the hard way. Last year it was hurricane victims. There are many other examples across a wide spectrum of activities illustrating this daily.
Here is where we differ. In my opinion it is not Government, it is Politicians.

Government has done some great things under the right leadership. Newsome and the LA Mayor are criminal.

Under FDR (not a huge fan, but I agreed with his concept of putting people to work not just a handout.) his CCC put people to work and created the great National Parks we have. TVA was a huge success in modernizing the middle of the Nation. Apollo, Interstate system, just people having clean drinking water, wastewater, the list goes on. There are many difficult things that Government does better than any other form. Public service is and was viewed as a good thing. There are things that effect the whole that Government should provide.

So, I do not agree that Government is parasitic and destructive. Now, if the arguement is that Government CAN be parasitic and destructive, I agree. Same with businesses and people.
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Even the good things done by the federal govt involved lots of waste, fraud, & other abuses. All too often, the same things could have been fine by the private sector more effectively & efficiently. Even some of the apparent success stories have their dark side, not well known. For example the TVA did a great thing but competed against private interests that wanted to do the same but were crowded out by Big Brother. No one can compete against a government that makes all the rules but doesn't have to follow them.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

Even the good things done by the federal govt involved lots of waste, fraud, & other abuses. All too often, the same things could have been fine by the private sector more effectively & efficiently. Even some of the apparent success stories have their dark side, not well known. For example the TVA did a great thing but competed against private interests that wanted to do the same but were crowded out by Big Brother. No one can compete against a government that makes all the rules but doesn't have to follow them.
Well, we are talking the 30's vs now. Govt follows almost all the same guidelines now or more. We were in a depression, I prefer the Govt spending to modernize and put people to work rather than send checks.

The private sector does a lot of things very well. Government also serves a role and does somethings better than the private sector. Neither is perfect and we need both.
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Yes, the two are 90 years apart. I was responding to an example previously cited. It doesn't matter, the same principle still applies: if you believe the govt can solve problems and fix things you will get burned. Most of the problems they try to fix they caused in the first place and their efforts invariably make matters worse. Just look at education, health care, energy, and anything other major responsibility the government has assumed over the past 100+ years.

Their actions are often based on socialism and socialism is slavery. All too often, the government is evil.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

Yes, the two are 90 years apart. I was responding to an example previously cited. It doesn't matter, the same principle still applies: if you believe the govt can solve problems and fix things you will get burned. Most of the problems they try to fix they caused in the first place and their efforts invariably make matters worse. Just look at education, health care, energy, and anything other major responsibility the government has assumed over the past 100+ years.

Their actions are often based on socialism and socialism is slavery. All too often, the government is evil.
My view: All too often, Politicians are evil. Anyone that wants to be in leadership, shouldn't be allowed...
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Redbrickbear said:





"And he said: that's no camel that's my wife!!!"
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