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FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:


THANK YOU!

We cannot have the Nation being run from "X" waiting for Elon to give thumbs up or down...
What a great example of the intolerance of the moderate. Somehow, they never find it appropriate to say the left is crazy (open borders, modern monetary theory, wokeness, etc....) It's always middle ground fallacy - "both sides have gone nuts." (even though it's leftist insanity that created our current difficulty).

Chip is constantly portrayed as a right wing nut, but what exactly is crazy about wanting to stop deficit spending?
Isn't trillions of dollars of deficit spending an enormous problem?
Why is it that anyone who opposes trillions of dollars in annual deficits is a part of the problem?
Aren't the people demanding trillions of dollars in annual deficits THE problem?

No. Conservatives are not the problem here. Not one national emergency has been caused by conservative resistance the policies causing the problem.

Geez, the positioning bias...... Could it be that the real problem is the moderates? who are too willing to cut deals with leftists? who constantly cite voices of reason as worse than bad policy?
Talk about positioning. None of what you said has anything to do with a Billionaire directing Congress what can pass or not on social media. Whether it is Soros, Musk, or Bezos it is dead-wrong.
Democrats have done it forever, to move their party left, so why no critique of those guys?
Isn't the proper way to achieve balance to match what the Democrats are doing?


Please explain how this tantrum on Moderates has anything to do with Musk threatening to Primary anyone that disagrees with him using unlimited funds?
What is wrong with a donor pledging to fund a primary challenger against someone who does not play team ball?
It's been highly effective for Democrats. Why would we not want it to be highly effective for us?

The Post talked about both Parties and following process. You really think that Musk coming out and saying how to vote is good?
YES. If the policy is good, then pressure to vote for it is good.
What part of using a debt limit approval to force spending cuts (in an overall context of trillion-dollar deficits) is deleterious to the Republic?



I forget you are ex-CIA this is probably a dream op come true! : )
I see what Musk is doing as a long-overdue counter-balance to what Democrats have done.

So who's being pragmatic and who's being idealistic?

We are talking about it because Trump won and is doing this. We talked and railed on Biden for 4 years.
I railed on Biden for 4 years, but you attacked Trump more often than you attacked Biden.

What's wrong? He is influencing policy, one person using money to get what he wants. That is not how the system is supposed to work. He wants to contribute, fine go ahead.
No, it's exactly how the system is supposed to work. Always. Everywhere. (in both place and time). Donors get access. Donors get influence. We've just never had a donor of Musk's stature weigh in so publicly to push a conservative cause like the left has done for decades. Curiously, you never complained about the wild-eyed leftism of Democrat donors, yet can't find a nice thing to say about a major Republican donor.

The quid quo pro is the problem. I don't care if it is Soros or Musk, right now they are showing to be the same.
Troll-esque idealism. Donors exist. In a truly free society, they have the right to do what a Soros/Musk and the like have done. There is no eliminating them from the process which does not undermine liberty itself. The lawfare by Soros-paid prosecutors against Trump (which you cheered on) is an example. Donors move needles. Takes an awful lot of assembly & speech by the masses to counteract it all. Usually, there is; and mostly, it does.

This time you like it. Slippery slope. But, like most of the others we will worry about down the road. Sick of having to deal with the down the roads.
Again, you are being uncharacteristically idealistic. Politics is about teaming up with others to make progress on your own agenda. If you really do hate what Biden did to the country and want to fix it, the absolute stupidest thing you could do is cancel a Musk type ally from the equation. He's a positive force for what you say you want.

Finally, all of this is not putting Trump in a stronger position. He is creating animosity, people don't like being extorted, this is no different than protection money to the mafia.
LOL "...Donald Trump creates animosity in politics..." as if there was never any animosity before he arrived. LOL. The LACK of animosity should be more alarming.

You guys are setting up for 2016 all over. He is appointing his Apprentice production staff to diplomatic positions! This is the worst cronyism since before Teddy Roosevelt who was dead against this type of government.
LOL like no president before him appointed trusted people who agreed with him?
Man, quit watching MSNBC. That's pure propaganda over there and it's warping your perception of reality.
Do not have to watch MSNBC, this is playing out on all channels and social media sort of hard not to miss it.

You are characteristically, at least when it comes to Trump, ignoring pretty much anything he does. Hawking products,
Fundraising never ends in politics. He's different in the way he does it, perhaps in no small part because he CAN do it the way he does it and nobody else can. Either way, he can sell away for all I care. I will judge him on policy accomplishments. He has a good track record on that, too.
the CR fiasco,
it's not a fiasco. It's a process. The process would be a lot easier if Democrats were trying to solve problems rather than undermine him, ya know, or if the GOP moderates would join with their own caucus and do some serious fiscal responsibility exercises.
appointing Apprentice production staff to diplomatic posts, there is a lot here.
Typically superficial. Read up just a little bit on the guy you criticize and you'll see how foolish your comments are, on multiple levels. The guy's resume literally undermines your entire argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

If it is Trump, you will find some way to rationalize. If not, it is reason to do away with Govt. You honestly with a straight face say that what Trump is doing is the way it should be done? Or if Obama did it you would be good with it?
With Trump, you will make up ways to savage his every action.
Seems to me like he's appointing people who are committed to the agendas I support. Some of them, like Musk and Burnett, actually are not terribly partisan sources.

Dude. Trump is living in the middle here. I'm ok with it, because experience tells me he's not doing it to sideline conservatives. He's doing it to help me achieve more conservative policies than we have today. Pragmatism dictates I support that.

Your analysis has devolved into chaos, to the point where you are turning a guy who is a poster-boy for the kind of cross-the-aisle doer-creator public figures you advocate into garden variety Trump toadies.

Seriously. You are detached from reality.
What middle have you seen? The guy is a TV producer. If you are producing the State of the Union, yes. Great choice. Special Envoy to Great Britain on trade? What have you seen in that resume? The guy is going straight cronyism, sorry if skeptical. rolling the dice here big time. Maybe it is the Apprentice 2, looks more like Atlantic City to me. But, as you have seen in the past if I am wrong I will say it.
Completely unserious objections, not even bothering to read up on his accomplishments. Furthest thing from a Trump crony.
-raised in a blue-collar home in Britain.
-enlisted in British Army, saw combat in Northern Ireland and the Falklands.
-emigrated to USA with nothing, built a business empire.
-President of United Artists
-CEO of MGM Media Group
-active philanthropist, outspoken Christian
-plays nice with both sides of the aisle.
-denounced Trump in 2016; now supports him. (could there be a lesson for you in that.)

C'mon dude. You're just playing troll here. Guy has an incredible life story, rags to riches, wide range of accomplishments rising to lead a Fortune 500 company. Exactly the kind of guy that gets tapped to fill an important Ambassador slot. He knows how to make things work, and has a resume purpose built for the job =
"Immigrant Hollywood Christian with military background who can raise money and lead large organizations..."



Maybe for a movie, but for a Special Envoy? He may be able to produce a rally, a skill Trump values. Half of those traits apply to millions of Americans. You do realize that MGM was founded in 1924 and built a long time before this guy got involved? If you mean MGM Media Group, the MGM affiliate, that is a Sony Consortium. If he wasn't on the Apprentice, he doesn't get the gig (appropriate word for an entertainer).

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does it correct, so as for trolls there are numerous mirrors around. The things I have objected to are substance based and I have given credit where due. So much so other Democratic Nations are passing laws to make sure things like Musk don't happen, see Australia. (Let's here how liberal and anti-conservative Australia is now.)
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Show me you are a Harris fan still upset she imploded, without actually admitting it in specific.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
FLBear5630
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Oldbear83 said:

Show me you are a Harris fan still upset she imploded, without actually admitting it in specific.


Just keep making **** up.
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Show me you are a Harris fan still upset she imploded, without actually admitting it in specific.


I just keep making **** up.
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Oldbear83 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

Show me you are a Harris fan still upset she imploded, without actually admitting it in specific.


JillBear ust keeps making **** up.
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

Show me you are a Harris fan still upset she imploded, without actually admitting it in specific.


JillBear (FLBear when he feels like a she) just keeps making **** up.
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And again
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FLBear5630
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Oldbear83 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Show me you are a Harris fan still upset she imploded, without actually admitting it in specific.


JillBear (FLBear when he feels like a she) just keeps making **** up.
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And again


Come on show us you Trump watch, Trump Sneakers, Trump collector Champaign. Its Christmas! Maybe you can play with your new Trump action figure with kung fu grip.
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Show me you are a Harris fan still upset she imploded, without actually admitting it in specific.


JillBear (FLBear when he feels like a she) just keeps making **** up.
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And again


Come on show us you Trump watch, Trump Sneakers, Trump collector Champaign. Its Christmas! Maybe you can play with your new Trump action figure with kung fu grip.
You continue to demonstrate an amazing lack of comprehension, FLBear.

I was not and am not a Trumpster. I don't own/wear a MAGA hat or any of Trump's products.


You, on the other hand, have consistently demonstrated hatred of anything Trump supports or promotes, even as you deny it.

You, FLBear, are a hater of the most putrid character, clearly bitter since Trump won and determined to urinate by post on anyone seriously trying to move things forward.


You only fool yourself.
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nein51
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It's funny how we joke around here that you can't trust numbers coming out of China…

What's crazy is everyone who spends time with customers could have told you the economy sucked no matter what the reporting said.
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:


THANK YOU!

We cannot have the Nation being run from "X" waiting for Elon to give thumbs up or down...
What a great example of the intolerance of the moderate. Somehow, they never find it appropriate to say the left is crazy (open borders, modern monetary theory, wokeness, etc....) It's always middle ground fallacy - "both sides have gone nuts." (even though it's leftist insanity that created our current difficulty).

Chip is constantly portrayed as a right wing nut, but what exactly is crazy about wanting to stop deficit spending?
Isn't trillions of dollars of deficit spending an enormous problem?
Why is it that anyone who opposes trillions of dollars in annual deficits is a part of the problem?
Aren't the people demanding trillions of dollars in annual deficits THE problem?

No. Conservatives are not the problem here. Not one national emergency has been caused by conservative resistance the policies causing the problem.

Geez, the positioning bias...... Could it be that the real problem is the moderates? who are too willing to cut deals with leftists? who constantly cite voices of reason as worse than bad policy?
Talk about positioning. None of what you said has anything to do with a Billionaire directing Congress what can pass or not on social media. Whether it is Soros, Musk, or Bezos it is dead-wrong.
Democrats have done it forever, to move their party left, so why no critique of those guys?
Isn't the proper way to achieve balance to match what the Democrats are doing?


Please explain how this tantrum on Moderates has anything to do with Musk threatening to Primary anyone that disagrees with him using unlimited funds?
What is wrong with a donor pledging to fund a primary challenger against someone who does not play team ball?
It's been highly effective for Democrats. Why would we not want it to be highly effective for us?

The Post talked about both Parties and following process. You really think that Musk coming out and saying how to vote is good?
YES. If the policy is good, then pressure to vote for it is good.
What part of using a debt limit approval to force spending cuts (in an overall context of trillion-dollar deficits) is deleterious to the Republic?



I forget you are ex-CIA this is probably a dream op come true! : )
I see what Musk is doing as a long-overdue counter-balance to what Democrats have done.

So who's being pragmatic and who's being idealistic?

We are talking about it because Trump won and is doing this. We talked and railed on Biden for 4 years.
I railed on Biden for 4 years, but you attacked Trump more often than you attacked Biden.

What's wrong? He is influencing policy, one person using money to get what he wants. That is not how the system is supposed to work. He wants to contribute, fine go ahead.
No, it's exactly how the system is supposed to work. Always. Everywhere. (in both place and time). Donors get access. Donors get influence. We've just never had a donor of Musk's stature weigh in so publicly to push a conservative cause like the left has done for decades. Curiously, you never complained about the wild-eyed leftism of Democrat donors, yet can't find a nice thing to say about a major Republican donor.

The quid quo pro is the problem. I don't care if it is Soros or Musk, right now they are showing to be the same.
Troll-esque idealism. Donors exist. In a truly free society, they have the right to do what a Soros/Musk and the like have done. There is no eliminating them from the process which does not undermine liberty itself. The lawfare by Soros-paid prosecutors against Trump (which you cheered on) is an example. Donors move needles. Takes an awful lot of assembly & speech by the masses to counteract it all. Usually, there is; and mostly, it does.

This time you like it. Slippery slope. But, like most of the others we will worry about down the road. Sick of having to deal with the down the roads.
Again, you are being uncharacteristically idealistic. Politics is about teaming up with others to make progress on your own agenda. If you really do hate what Biden did to the country and want to fix it, the absolute stupidest thing you could do is cancel a Musk type ally from the equation. He's a positive force for what you say you want.

Finally, all of this is not putting Trump in a stronger position. He is creating animosity, people don't like being extorted, this is no different than protection money to the mafia.
LOL "...Donald Trump creates animosity in politics..." as if there was never any animosity before he arrived. LOL. The LACK of animosity should be more alarming.

You guys are setting up for 2016 all over. He is appointing his Apprentice production staff to diplomatic positions! This is the worst cronyism since before Teddy Roosevelt who was dead against this type of government.
LOL like no president before him appointed trusted people who agreed with him?
Man, quit watching MSNBC. That's pure propaganda over there and it's warping your perception of reality.
Do not have to watch MSNBC, this is playing out on all channels and social media sort of hard not to miss it.

You are characteristically, at least when it comes to Trump, ignoring pretty much anything he does. Hawking products,
Fundraising never ends in politics. He's different in the way he does it, perhaps in no small part because he CAN do it the way he does it and nobody else can. Either way, he can sell away for all I care. I will judge him on policy accomplishments. He has a good track record on that, too.
the CR fiasco,
it's not a fiasco. It's a process. The process would be a lot easier if Democrats were trying to solve problems rather than undermine him, ya know, or if the GOP moderates would join with their own caucus and do some serious fiscal responsibility exercises.
appointing Apprentice production staff to diplomatic posts, there is a lot here.
Typically superficial. Read up just a little bit on the guy you criticize and you'll see how foolish your comments are, on multiple levels. The guy's resume literally undermines your entire argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

If it is Trump, you will find some way to rationalize. If not, it is reason to do away with Govt. You honestly with a straight face say that what Trump is doing is the way it should be done? Or if Obama did it you would be good with it?
With Trump, you will make up ways to savage his every action.
Seems to me like he's appointing people who are committed to the agendas I support. Some of them, like Musk and Burnett, actually are not terribly partisan sources.

Dude. Trump is living in the middle here. I'm ok with it, because experience tells me he's not doing it to sideline conservatives. He's doing it to help me achieve more conservative policies than we have today. Pragmatism dictates I support that.

Your analysis has devolved into chaos, to the point where you are turning a guy who is a poster-boy for the kind of cross-the-aisle doer-creator public figures you advocate into garden variety Trump toadies.

Seriously. You are detached from reality.
What middle have you seen? The guy is a TV producer. If you are producing the State of the Union, yes. Great choice. Special Envoy to Great Britain on trade? What have you seen in that resume? The guy is going straight cronyism, sorry if skeptical. rolling the dice here big time. Maybe it is the Apprentice 2, looks more like Atlantic City to me. But, as you have seen in the past if I am wrong I will say it.
Completely unserious objections, not even bothering to read up on his accomplishments. Furthest thing from a Trump crony.
-raised in a blue-collar home in Britain.
-enlisted in British Army, saw combat in Northern Ireland and the Falklands.
-emigrated to USA with nothing, built a business empire.
-President of United Artists
-CEO of MGM Media Group
-active philanthropist, outspoken Christian
-plays nice with both sides of the aisle.
-denounced Trump in 2016; now supports him. (could there be a lesson for you in that.)

C'mon dude. You're just playing troll here. Guy has an incredible life story, rags to riches, wide range of accomplishments rising to lead a Fortune 500 company. Exactly the kind of guy that gets tapped to fill an important Ambassador slot. He knows how to make things work, and has a resume purpose built for the job =
"Immigrant Hollywood Christian with military background who can raise money and lead large organizations..."



Maybe for a movie, but for a Special Envoy? He may be able to produce a rally, a skill Trump values. Half of those traits apply to millions of Americans. You do realize that MGM was founded in 1924 and built a long time before this guy got involved? If you mean MGM Media Group, the MGM affiliate, that is a Sony Consortium. If he wasn't on the Apprentice, he doesn't get the gig (appropriate word for an entertainer).

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does it correct, so as for trolls there are numerous mirrors around. The things I have objected to are substance based and I have given credit where due. So much so other Democratic Nations are passing laws to make sure things like Musk don't happen, see Australia. (Let's here how liberal and anti-conservative Australia is now.)
You just proved that you read it without understanding it.

Dude rose from corporal in the British Army to CEO of a Fortune 500 company, along the way MERGING two very large corporations - United Artists and MGM. And his path to power was not built on MBA spreadsheet mastery. He came up the artistic side of the business, creating and financing products that became staples of culture. So he has a good nose for what the American people like, can raise money by the boatload, and has demonstrated skill at directing very large organizations, as well as playing nice with people on both sides of the aisle.

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does is an outrage, completely ignoring substance to dig in on the weakest argument of them all - that Barnett is a Trump crony with no skills. Dude is almost purpose built for the job to which he was appointed.
(i.e. there is a reason I pounced on this one. you are Wile E. Coyote spinning your legs in the air out over the canyon.)
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:


THANK YOU!

We cannot have the Nation being run from "X" waiting for Elon to give thumbs up or down...
What a great example of the intolerance of the moderate. Somehow, they never find it appropriate to say the left is crazy (open borders, modern monetary theory, wokeness, etc....) It's always middle ground fallacy - "both sides have gone nuts." (even though it's leftist insanity that created our current difficulty).

Chip is constantly portrayed as a right wing nut, but what exactly is crazy about wanting to stop deficit spending?
Isn't trillions of dollars of deficit spending an enormous problem?
Why is it that anyone who opposes trillions of dollars in annual deficits is a part of the problem?
Aren't the people demanding trillions of dollars in annual deficits THE problem?

No. Conservatives are not the problem here. Not one national emergency has been caused by conservative resistance the policies causing the problem.

Geez, the positioning bias...... Could it be that the real problem is the moderates? who are too willing to cut deals with leftists? who constantly cite voices of reason as worse than bad policy?
Talk about positioning. None of what you said has anything to do with a Billionaire directing Congress what can pass or not on social media. Whether it is Soros, Musk, or Bezos it is dead-wrong.
Democrats have done it forever, to move their party left, so why no critique of those guys?
Isn't the proper way to achieve balance to match what the Democrats are doing?


Please explain how this tantrum on Moderates has anything to do with Musk threatening to Primary anyone that disagrees with him using unlimited funds?
What is wrong with a donor pledging to fund a primary challenger against someone who does not play team ball?
It's been highly effective for Democrats. Why would we not want it to be highly effective for us?

The Post talked about both Parties and following process. You really think that Musk coming out and saying how to vote is good?
YES. If the policy is good, then pressure to vote for it is good.
What part of using a debt limit approval to force spending cuts (in an overall context of trillion-dollar deficits) is deleterious to the Republic?



I forget you are ex-CIA this is probably a dream op come true! : )
I see what Musk is doing as a long-overdue counter-balance to what Democrats have done.

So who's being pragmatic and who's being idealistic?

We are talking about it because Trump won and is doing this. We talked and railed on Biden for 4 years.
I railed on Biden for 4 years, but you attacked Trump more often than you attacked Biden.

What's wrong? He is influencing policy, one person using money to get what he wants. That is not how the system is supposed to work. He wants to contribute, fine go ahead.
No, it's exactly how the system is supposed to work. Always. Everywhere. (in both place and time). Donors get access. Donors get influence. We've just never had a donor of Musk's stature weigh in so publicly to push a conservative cause like the left has done for decades. Curiously, you never complained about the wild-eyed leftism of Democrat donors, yet can't find a nice thing to say about a major Republican donor.

The quid quo pro is the problem. I don't care if it is Soros or Musk, right now they are showing to be the same.
Troll-esque idealism. Donors exist. In a truly free society, they have the right to do what a Soros/Musk and the like have done. There is no eliminating them from the process which does not undermine liberty itself. The lawfare by Soros-paid prosecutors against Trump (which you cheered on) is an example. Donors move needles. Takes an awful lot of assembly & speech by the masses to counteract it all. Usually, there is; and mostly, it does.

This time you like it. Slippery slope. But, like most of the others we will worry about down the road. Sick of having to deal with the down the roads.
Again, you are being uncharacteristically idealistic. Politics is about teaming up with others to make progress on your own agenda. If you really do hate what Biden did to the country and want to fix it, the absolute stupidest thing you could do is cancel a Musk type ally from the equation. He's a positive force for what you say you want.

Finally, all of this is not putting Trump in a stronger position. He is creating animosity, people don't like being extorted, this is no different than protection money to the mafia.
LOL "...Donald Trump creates animosity in politics..." as if there was never any animosity before he arrived. LOL. The LACK of animosity should be more alarming.

You guys are setting up for 2016 all over. He is appointing his Apprentice production staff to diplomatic positions! This is the worst cronyism since before Teddy Roosevelt who was dead against this type of government.
LOL like no president before him appointed trusted people who agreed with him?
Man, quit watching MSNBC. That's pure propaganda over there and it's warping your perception of reality.
Do not have to watch MSNBC, this is playing out on all channels and social media sort of hard not to miss it.

You are characteristically, at least when it comes to Trump, ignoring pretty much anything he does. Hawking products,
Fundraising never ends in politics. He's different in the way he does it, perhaps in no small part because he CAN do it the way he does it and nobody else can. Either way, he can sell away for all I care. I will judge him on policy accomplishments. He has a good track record on that, too.
the CR fiasco,
it's not a fiasco. It's a process. The process would be a lot easier if Democrats were trying to solve problems rather than undermine him, ya know, or if the GOP moderates would join with their own caucus and do some serious fiscal responsibility exercises.
appointing Apprentice production staff to diplomatic posts, there is a lot here.
Typically superficial. Read up just a little bit on the guy you criticize and you'll see how foolish your comments are, on multiple levels. The guy's resume literally undermines your entire argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

If it is Trump, you will find some way to rationalize. If not, it is reason to do away with Govt. You honestly with a straight face say that what Trump is doing is the way it should be done? Or if Obama did it you would be good with it?
With Trump, you will make up ways to savage his every action.
Seems to me like he's appointing people who are committed to the agendas I support. Some of them, like Musk and Burnett, actually are not terribly partisan sources.

Dude. Trump is living in the middle here. I'm ok with it, because experience tells me he's not doing it to sideline conservatives. He's doing it to help me achieve more conservative policies than we have today. Pragmatism dictates I support that.

Your analysis has devolved into chaos, to the point where you are turning a guy who is a poster-boy for the kind of cross-the-aisle doer-creator public figures you advocate into garden variety Trump toadies.

Seriously. You are detached from reality.
What middle have you seen? The guy is a TV producer. If you are producing the State of the Union, yes. Great choice. Special Envoy to Great Britain on trade? What have you seen in that resume? The guy is going straight cronyism, sorry if skeptical. rolling the dice here big time. Maybe it is the Apprentice 2, looks more like Atlantic City to me. But, as you have seen in the past if I am wrong I will say it.
Completely unserious objections, not even bothering to read up on his accomplishments. Furthest thing from a Trump crony.
-raised in a blue-collar home in Britain.
-enlisted in British Army, saw combat in Northern Ireland and the Falklands.
-emigrated to USA with nothing, built a business empire.
-President of United Artists
-CEO of MGM Media Group
-active philanthropist, outspoken Christian
-plays nice with both sides of the aisle.
-denounced Trump in 2016; now supports him. (could there be a lesson for you in that.)

C'mon dude. You're just playing troll here. Guy has an incredible life story, rags to riches, wide range of accomplishments rising to lead a Fortune 500 company. Exactly the kind of guy that gets tapped to fill an important Ambassador slot. He knows how to make things work, and has a resume purpose built for the job =
"Immigrant Hollywood Christian with military background who can raise money and lead large organizations..."



Maybe for a movie, but for a Special Envoy? He may be able to produce a rally, a skill Trump values. Half of those traits apply to millions of Americans. You do realize that MGM was founded in 1924 and built a long time before this guy got involved? If you mean MGM Media Group, the MGM affiliate, that is a Sony Consortium. If he wasn't on the Apprentice, he doesn't get the gig (appropriate word for an entertainer).

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does it correct, so as for trolls there are numerous mirrors around. The things I have objected to are substance based and I have given credit where due. So much so other Democratic Nations are passing laws to make sure things like Musk don't happen, see Australia. (Let's here how liberal and anti-conservative Australia is now.)
You just proved that you read it without understanding it.

Dude rose from corporal in the British Army to CEO of a Fortune 500 company, along the way MERGING two very large corporations - United Artists and MGM. And his path to power was not built on MBA spreadsheet mastery. He came up the artistic side of the business, creating and financing products that became staples of culture. So he has a good nose for what the American people like, can raise money by the boatload, and has demonstrated skill at directing very large organizations, as well as playing nice with people on both sides of the aisle.

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does is an outrage, completely ignoring substance to dig in on the weakest argument of them all - that Barnett is a Trump crony with no skills. Dude is almost purpose built for the job to which he was appointed.
(i.e. there is a reason I pounced on this one. you are Wile E. Coyote spinning your legs in the air out over the canyon.)
No, I am not. It depends on what he is doing, see Gaetz nomination. We don't have to agree. I am sorry, I don't want Trump's TV producer as a Special Envoy to Great Britain. I don't want the TV/Social Media industry to have more power, I don't like what it has done to American society. Having more Mad Men marketing narratives from DC is not what I want to approve. Sorry, I do not want the Govt to be MORE PsyOps.

In addition, sorry this is a blatant buying of influence that Trump is doing making people accept and approve, you are obviously all in. When it comes to Trump, he can do no wrong in your eyes. That is just as bad, and more dangerous, than the never Trumpers.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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Ha ha ha

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. (Let's here how liberal and anti-conservative Australia is now.)


Why And How Is Australia Becoming Authoritarian?

https://medium.com/discourse/why-and-how-is-australia-becoming-so-authoritarian-123093ed7569

The rise and rise of Australian authoritarianism

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/07/17/the-rise-and-rise-australian-authoritarianism/162644400012082

Australia has overtaken New Zealand and Canada as the West's most authoritarian nation

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/30/australia-overtaken-new-zealand-and-canada-authoritarian/

Gun bans, covid camps, censorship, every ugly fascist policy that tried to raise its head here during the Biden/Harris administration has been well established for years.
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Why And How Is Australia Becoming Authoritarian?

https://medium.com/discourse/why-and-how-is-australia-becoming-so-authoritarian-123093ed7569

The rise and rise of Australian authoritarianism

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/07/17/the-rise-and-rise-australian-authoritarianism/162644400012082

Australia has overtaken New Zealand and Canada as the West's most authoritarian nation

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/30/australia-overtaken-new-zealand-and-canada-authoritarian/

Gun bans, covid camps, censorship, every ugly fascist policy that tried to raise its head here during the Biden/Harris administration has been well established for years.
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THANK YOU!

We cannot have the Nation being run from "X" waiting for Elon to give thumbs up or down...
What a great example of the intolerance of the moderate. Somehow, they never find it appropriate to say the left is crazy (open borders, modern monetary theory, wokeness, etc....) It's always middle ground fallacy - "both sides have gone nuts." (even though it's leftist insanity that created our current difficulty).

Chip is constantly portrayed as a right wing nut, but what exactly is crazy about wanting to stop deficit spending?
Isn't trillions of dollars of deficit spending an enormous problem?
Why is it that anyone who opposes trillions of dollars in annual deficits is a part of the problem?
Aren't the people demanding trillions of dollars in annual deficits THE problem?

No. Conservatives are not the problem here. Not one national emergency has been caused by conservative resistance the policies causing the problem.

Geez, the positioning bias...... Could it be that the real problem is the moderates? who are too willing to cut deals with leftists? who constantly cite voices of reason as worse than bad policy?
Talk about positioning. None of what you said has anything to do with a Billionaire directing Congress what can pass or not on social media. Whether it is Soros, Musk, or Bezos it is dead-wrong.
Democrats have done it forever, to move their party left, so why no critique of those guys?
Isn't the proper way to achieve balance to match what the Democrats are doing?


Please explain how this tantrum on Moderates has anything to do with Musk threatening to Primary anyone that disagrees with him using unlimited funds?
What is wrong with a donor pledging to fund a primary challenger against someone who does not play team ball?
It's been highly effective for Democrats. Why would we not want it to be highly effective for us?

The Post talked about both Parties and following process. You really think that Musk coming out and saying how to vote is good?
YES. If the policy is good, then pressure to vote for it is good.
What part of using a debt limit approval to force spending cuts (in an overall context of trillion-dollar deficits) is deleterious to the Republic?



I forget you are ex-CIA this is probably a dream op come true! : )
I see what Musk is doing as a long-overdue counter-balance to what Democrats have done.

So who's being pragmatic and who's being idealistic?

We are talking about it because Trump won and is doing this. We talked and railed on Biden for 4 years.
I railed on Biden for 4 years, but you attacked Trump more often than you attacked Biden.

What's wrong? He is influencing policy, one person using money to get what he wants. That is not how the system is supposed to work. He wants to contribute, fine go ahead.
No, it's exactly how the system is supposed to work. Always. Everywhere. (in both place and time). Donors get access. Donors get influence. We've just never had a donor of Musk's stature weigh in so publicly to push a conservative cause like the left has done for decades. Curiously, you never complained about the wild-eyed leftism of Democrat donors, yet can't find a nice thing to say about a major Republican donor.

The quid quo pro is the problem. I don't care if it is Soros or Musk, right now they are showing to be the same.
Troll-esque idealism. Donors exist. In a truly free society, they have the right to do what a Soros/Musk and the like have done. There is no eliminating them from the process which does not undermine liberty itself. The lawfare by Soros-paid prosecutors against Trump (which you cheered on) is an example. Donors move needles. Takes an awful lot of assembly & speech by the masses to counteract it all. Usually, there is; and mostly, it does.

This time you like it. Slippery slope. But, like most of the others we will worry about down the road. Sick of having to deal with the down the roads.
Again, you are being uncharacteristically idealistic. Politics is about teaming up with others to make progress on your own agenda. If you really do hate what Biden did to the country and want to fix it, the absolute stupidest thing you could do is cancel a Musk type ally from the equation. He's a positive force for what you say you want.

Finally, all of this is not putting Trump in a stronger position. He is creating animosity, people don't like being extorted, this is no different than protection money to the mafia.
LOL "...Donald Trump creates animosity in politics..." as if there was never any animosity before he arrived. LOL. The LACK of animosity should be more alarming.

You guys are setting up for 2016 all over. He is appointing his Apprentice production staff to diplomatic positions! This is the worst cronyism since before Teddy Roosevelt who was dead against this type of government.
LOL like no president before him appointed trusted people who agreed with him?
Man, quit watching MSNBC. That's pure propaganda over there and it's warping your perception of reality.
Do not have to watch MSNBC, this is playing out on all channels and social media sort of hard not to miss it.

You are characteristically, at least when it comes to Trump, ignoring pretty much anything he does. Hawking products,
Fundraising never ends in politics. He's different in the way he does it, perhaps in no small part because he CAN do it the way he does it and nobody else can. Either way, he can sell away for all I care. I will judge him on policy accomplishments. He has a good track record on that, too.
the CR fiasco,
it's not a fiasco. It's a process. The process would be a lot easier if Democrats were trying to solve problems rather than undermine him, ya know, or if the GOP moderates would join with their own caucus and do some serious fiscal responsibility exercises.
appointing Apprentice production staff to diplomatic posts, there is a lot here.
Typically superficial. Read up just a little bit on the guy you criticize and you'll see how foolish your comments are, on multiple levels. The guy's resume literally undermines your entire argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

If it is Trump, you will find some way to rationalize. If not, it is reason to do away with Govt. You honestly with a straight face say that what Trump is doing is the way it should be done? Or if Obama did it you would be good with it?
With Trump, you will make up ways to savage his every action.
Seems to me like he's appointing people who are committed to the agendas I support. Some of them, like Musk and Burnett, actually are not terribly partisan sources.

Dude. Trump is living in the middle here. I'm ok with it, because experience tells me he's not doing it to sideline conservatives. He's doing it to help me achieve more conservative policies than we have today. Pragmatism dictates I support that.

Your analysis has devolved into chaos, to the point where you are turning a guy who is a poster-boy for the kind of cross-the-aisle doer-creator public figures you advocate into garden variety Trump toadies.

Seriously. You are detached from reality.
What middle have you seen? The guy is a TV producer. If you are producing the State of the Union, yes. Great choice. Special Envoy to Great Britain on trade? What have you seen in that resume? The guy is going straight cronyism, sorry if skeptical. rolling the dice here big time. Maybe it is the Apprentice 2, looks more like Atlantic City to me. But, as you have seen in the past if I am wrong I will say it.
Completely unserious objections, not even bothering to read up on his accomplishments. Furthest thing from a Trump crony.
-raised in a blue-collar home in Britain.
-enlisted in British Army, saw combat in Northern Ireland and the Falklands.
-emigrated to USA with nothing, built a business empire.
-President of United Artists
-CEO of MGM Media Group
-active philanthropist, outspoken Christian
-plays nice with both sides of the aisle.
-denounced Trump in 2016; now supports him. (could there be a lesson for you in that.)

C'mon dude. You're just playing troll here. Guy has an incredible life story, rags to riches, wide range of accomplishments rising to lead a Fortune 500 company. Exactly the kind of guy that gets tapped to fill an important Ambassador slot. He knows how to make things work, and has a resume purpose built for the job =
"Immigrant Hollywood Christian with military background who can raise money and lead large organizations..."



Maybe for a movie, but for a Special Envoy? He may be able to produce a rally, a skill Trump values. Half of those traits apply to millions of Americans. You do realize that MGM was founded in 1924 and built a long time before this guy got involved? If you mean MGM Media Group, the MGM affiliate, that is a Sony Consortium. If he wasn't on the Apprentice, he doesn't get the gig (appropriate word for an entertainer).

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does it correct, so as for trolls there are numerous mirrors around. The things I have objected to are substance based and I have given credit where due. So much so other Democratic Nations are passing laws to make sure things like Musk don't happen, see Australia. (Let's here how liberal and anti-conservative Australia is now.)
You just proved that you read it without understanding it.

Dude rose from corporal in the British Army to CEO of a Fortune 500 company, along the way MERGING two very large corporations - United Artists and MGM. And his path to power was not built on MBA spreadsheet mastery. He came up the artistic side of the business, creating and financing products that became staples of culture. So he has a good nose for what the American people like, can raise money by the boatload, and has demonstrated skill at directing very large organizations, as well as playing nice with people on both sides of the aisle.

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does is an outrage, completely ignoring substance to dig in on the weakest argument of them all - that Barnett is a Trump crony with no skills. Dude is almost purpose built for the job to which he was appointed.
(i.e. there is a reason I pounced on this one. you are Wile E. Coyote spinning your legs in the air out over the canyon.)
No, I am not. It depends on what he is doing, see Gaetz nomination.
I suspect Trump was offering him a fig leaf to cover his exit from Congress. Rewarding one of his most tireless supporters with a face saving exit. For that reason alone it was a good step. It's a leader signaling to his troops "if you stand with me thru thick & thin, I will remember it. You will not be abandoned on the battlefield." And it cost Trump nothing except critique from the people who are going to critique his every action anyway.

We don't have to agree. I am sorry, I don't want Trump's TV producer as a Special Envoy to Great Britain.
No matter how uniquely well-suited and well-qualified a British NCO who rose to CEO of a Fortune 500 comany might be for the role.....
You do realize that technically Trump worked for Burnett and not the other way around, don't you?

I don't want the TV/Social Media industry to have more power, I don't like what it has done to American society. Having more Mad Men marketing narratives from DC is not what I want to approve. Sorry, I do not want the Govt to be MORE PsyOps.
Your instincts are dead wrong. If there's one thing the GOP needs to accomplish its policy agenda, its better messaging and better exploitation of media to get that messaging out. Progressives are in a still dominant position to push narratives well outside the mainstream. Ironically, Burnett is really not the guy for the messaging. His skills are leading large organizations, giving him multi-disciplinary experience that mirror the portfolio he will have to manage for our relationships in the UK.

In addition, sorry this is a blatant buying of influence that Trump is doing making people accept and approve, you are obviously all in. When it comes to Trump, he can do no wrong in your eyes. That is just as bad, and more dangerous, than the never Trumpers.
I'm defending the most remarkable Republican leader since Reagan from irrational attacks. I can explain his selection of Gaetz, but I can't criticize people for rolling their eyes at it. But this one? Burnett? It's a textbook perfect hire. It'd be very difficult to argue that anyone else in the world would be better suited for the job.
You are screeching neverTrump nonsense at this point.....




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Why And How Is Australia Becoming Authoritarian?

https://medium.com/discourse/why-and-how-is-australia-becoming-so-authoritarian-123093ed7569

The rise and rise of Australian authoritarianism

https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2021/07/17/the-rise-and-rise-australian-authoritarianism/162644400012082

Australia has overtaken New Zealand and Canada as the West's most authoritarian nation

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/30/australia-overtaken-new-zealand-and-canada-authoritarian/

Gun bans, covid camps, censorship, every ugly fascist policy that tried to raise its head here during the Biden/Harris administration has been well established for years.
You do realize that the right are the ones making these policies? You could say, Australia is what happens if the Right gets total control, sort of like the Patriot Act after 911. So, maybe we need to watch the new Administration to make sure we don't get more Authoritarian. Also, notice on items like the social media ban for kids (which the US and Florida are fighting in Courts) Musk and Zuckerman are fighting, it interrupts their profits. You think Musk is going to allow rules that negatively impact him? Just speculating.

Nice articles, didn't know Australia had a far right Authoritarian issue. There is no good political party...

No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…'

Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947

(Notice I said "more", acknowledging that the F-ed up Biden already has done too much Authoritarian actions. Sorry, have to clarify otherwise you will say I am a Dem. I am becoming more and more Libertarian leaning as I get older, so much so Gorsuch has become my favorite SC Justice.).
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THANK YOU!

We cannot have the Nation being run from "X" waiting for Elon to give thumbs up or down...
What a great example of the intolerance of the moderate. Somehow, they never find it appropriate to say the left is crazy (open borders, modern monetary theory, wokeness, etc....) It's always middle ground fallacy - "both sides have gone nuts." (even though it's leftist insanity that created our current difficulty).

Chip is constantly portrayed as a right wing nut, but what exactly is crazy about wanting to stop deficit spending?
Isn't trillions of dollars of deficit spending an enormous problem?
Why is it that anyone who opposes trillions of dollars in annual deficits is a part of the problem?
Aren't the people demanding trillions of dollars in annual deficits THE problem?

No. Conservatives are not the problem here. Not one national emergency has been caused by conservative resistance the policies causing the problem.

Geez, the positioning bias...... Could it be that the real problem is the moderates? who are too willing to cut deals with leftists? who constantly cite voices of reason as worse than bad policy?
Talk about positioning. None of what you said has anything to do with a Billionaire directing Congress what can pass or not on social media. Whether it is Soros, Musk, or Bezos it is dead-wrong.
Democrats have done it forever, to move their party left, so why no critique of those guys?
Isn't the proper way to achieve balance to match what the Democrats are doing?


Please explain how this tantrum on Moderates has anything to do with Musk threatening to Primary anyone that disagrees with him using unlimited funds?
What is wrong with a donor pledging to fund a primary challenger against someone who does not play team ball?
It's been highly effective for Democrats. Why would we not want it to be highly effective for us?

The Post talked about both Parties and following process. You really think that Musk coming out and saying how to vote is good?
YES. If the policy is good, then pressure to vote for it is good.
What part of using a debt limit approval to force spending cuts (in an overall context of trillion-dollar deficits) is deleterious to the Republic?



I forget you are ex-CIA this is probably a dream op come true! : )
I see what Musk is doing as a long-overdue counter-balance to what Democrats have done.

So who's being pragmatic and who's being idealistic?

We are talking about it because Trump won and is doing this. We talked and railed on Biden for 4 years.
I railed on Biden for 4 years, but you attacked Trump more often than you attacked Biden.

What's wrong? He is influencing policy, one person using money to get what he wants. That is not how the system is supposed to work. He wants to contribute, fine go ahead.
No, it's exactly how the system is supposed to work. Always. Everywhere. (in both place and time). Donors get access. Donors get influence. We've just never had a donor of Musk's stature weigh in so publicly to push a conservative cause like the left has done for decades. Curiously, you never complained about the wild-eyed leftism of Democrat donors, yet can't find a nice thing to say about a major Republican donor.

The quid quo pro is the problem. I don't care if it is Soros or Musk, right now they are showing to be the same.
Troll-esque idealism. Donors exist. In a truly free society, they have the right to do what a Soros/Musk and the like have done. There is no eliminating them from the process which does not undermine liberty itself. The lawfare by Soros-paid prosecutors against Trump (which you cheered on) is an example. Donors move needles. Takes an awful lot of assembly & speech by the masses to counteract it all. Usually, there is; and mostly, it does.

This time you like it. Slippery slope. But, like most of the others we will worry about down the road. Sick of having to deal with the down the roads.
Again, you are being uncharacteristically idealistic. Politics is about teaming up with others to make progress on your own agenda. If you really do hate what Biden did to the country and want to fix it, the absolute stupidest thing you could do is cancel a Musk type ally from the equation. He's a positive force for what you say you want.

Finally, all of this is not putting Trump in a stronger position. He is creating animosity, people don't like being extorted, this is no different than protection money to the mafia.
LOL "...Donald Trump creates animosity in politics..." as if there was never any animosity before he arrived. LOL. The LACK of animosity should be more alarming.

You guys are setting up for 2016 all over. He is appointing his Apprentice production staff to diplomatic positions! This is the worst cronyism since before Teddy Roosevelt who was dead against this type of government.
LOL like no president before him appointed trusted people who agreed with him?
Man, quit watching MSNBC. That's pure propaganda over there and it's warping your perception of reality.
Do not have to watch MSNBC, this is playing out on all channels and social media sort of hard not to miss it.

You are characteristically, at least when it comes to Trump, ignoring pretty much anything he does. Hawking products,
Fundraising never ends in politics. He's different in the way he does it, perhaps in no small part because he CAN do it the way he does it and nobody else can. Either way, he can sell away for all I care. I will judge him on policy accomplishments. He has a good track record on that, too.
the CR fiasco,
it's not a fiasco. It's a process. The process would be a lot easier if Democrats were trying to solve problems rather than undermine him, ya know, or if the GOP moderates would join with their own caucus and do some serious fiscal responsibility exercises.
appointing Apprentice production staff to diplomatic posts, there is a lot here.
Typically superficial. Read up just a little bit on the guy you criticize and you'll see how foolish your comments are, on multiple levels. The guy's resume literally undermines your entire argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Burnett

If it is Trump, you will find some way to rationalize. If not, it is reason to do away with Govt. You honestly with a straight face say that what Trump is doing is the way it should be done? Or if Obama did it you would be good with it?
With Trump, you will make up ways to savage his every action.
Seems to me like he's appointing people who are committed to the agendas I support. Some of them, like Musk and Burnett, actually are not terribly partisan sources.

Dude. Trump is living in the middle here. I'm ok with it, because experience tells me he's not doing it to sideline conservatives. He's doing it to help me achieve more conservative policies than we have today. Pragmatism dictates I support that.

Your analysis has devolved into chaos, to the point where you are turning a guy who is a poster-boy for the kind of cross-the-aisle doer-creator public figures you advocate into garden variety Trump toadies.

Seriously. You are detached from reality.
What middle have you seen? The guy is a TV producer. If you are producing the State of the Union, yes. Great choice. Special Envoy to Great Britain on trade? What have you seen in that resume? The guy is going straight cronyism, sorry if skeptical. rolling the dice here big time. Maybe it is the Apprentice 2, looks more like Atlantic City to me. But, as you have seen in the past if I am wrong I will say it.
Completely unserious objections, not even bothering to read up on his accomplishments. Furthest thing from a Trump crony.
-raised in a blue-collar home in Britain.
-enlisted in British Army, saw combat in Northern Ireland and the Falklands.
-emigrated to USA with nothing, built a business empire.
-President of United Artists
-CEO of MGM Media Group
-active philanthropist, outspoken Christian
-plays nice with both sides of the aisle.
-denounced Trump in 2016; now supports him. (could there be a lesson for you in that.)

C'mon dude. You're just playing troll here. Guy has an incredible life story, rags to riches, wide range of accomplishments rising to lead a Fortune 500 company. Exactly the kind of guy that gets tapped to fill an important Ambassador slot. He knows how to make things work, and has a resume purpose built for the job =
"Immigrant Hollywood Christian with military background who can raise money and lead large organizations..."



Maybe for a movie, but for a Special Envoy? He may be able to produce a rally, a skill Trump values. Half of those traits apply to millions of Americans. You do realize that MGM was founded in 1924 and built a long time before this guy got involved? If you mean MGM Media Group, the MGM affiliate, that is a Sony Consortium. If he wasn't on the Apprentice, he doesn't get the gig (appropriate word for an entertainer).

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does it correct, so as for trolls there are numerous mirrors around. The things I have objected to are substance based and I have given credit where due. So much so other Democratic Nations are passing laws to make sure things like Musk don't happen, see Australia. (Let's here how liberal and anti-conservative Australia is now.)
You just proved that you read it without understanding it.

Dude rose from corporal in the British Army to CEO of a Fortune 500 company, along the way MERGING two very large corporations - United Artists and MGM. And his path to power was not built on MBA spreadsheet mastery. He came up the artistic side of the business, creating and financing products that became staples of culture. So he has a good nose for what the American people like, can raise money by the boatload, and has demonstrated skill at directing very large organizations, as well as playing nice with people on both sides of the aisle.

You are really going overboard that everything Trump does is an outrage, completely ignoring substance to dig in on the weakest argument of them all - that Barnett is a Trump crony with no skills. Dude is almost purpose built for the job to which he was appointed.
(i.e. there is a reason I pounced on this one. you are Wile E. Coyote spinning your legs in the air out over the canyon.)
No, I am not. It depends on what he is doing, see Gaetz nomination.
I suspect Trump was offering him a fig leaf to cover his exit from Congress. Rewarding one of his most tireless supporters with a face saving exit. For that reason alone it was a good step. It's a leader signaling to his troops "if you stand with me thru thick & thin, I will remember it. You will not be abandoned on the battlefield." And it cost Trump nothing except critique from the people who are going to critique his every action anyway.

We don't have to agree. I am sorry, I don't want Trump's TV producer as a Special Envoy to Great Britain.
No matter how uniquely well-suited and well-qualified a British NCO who rose to CEO of a Fortune 500 comany might be for the role.....
You do realize that technically Trump worked for Burnett and not the other way around, don't you?

I don't want the TV/Social Media industry to have more power, I don't like what it has done to American society. Having more Mad Men marketing narratives from DC is not what I want to approve. Sorry, I do not want the Govt to be MORE PsyOps.
Your instincts are dead wrong. If there's one thing the GOP needs to accomplish its policy agenda, its better messaging and better exploitation of media to get that messaging out. Progressives are in a still dominant position to push narratives well outside the mainstream. Ironically, Burnett is really not the guy for the messaging. His skills are leading large organizations, giving him multi-disciplinary experience that mirror the portfolio he will have to manage for our relationships in the UK.

In addition, sorry this is a blatant buying of influence that Trump is doing making people accept and approve, you are obviously all in. When it comes to Trump, he can do no wrong in your eyes. That is just as bad, and more dangerous, than the never Trumpers.
I'm defending the most remarkable Republican leader since Reagan from irrational attacks. I can explain his selection of Gaetz, but I can't criticize people for rolling their eyes at it. But this one? Burnett? It's a textbook perfect hire. It'd be very difficult to argue that anyone else in the world would be better suited for the job.
You are screeching neverTrump nonsense at this point.....





It is not the Government's job to have better "messaging"! It is their job to get things done, this is not a reality show to be produced to get a "certain effect". These policies, Agencies and actions effect people's lives on a day to day basis. Been at too many Agency PsyOp trainings, DC is not Radio America. Come on, look at what is being set up.

Absolute loyalists being nominated with no experience in key Agencies
Ultra-Rich Musk and Vivek giving recommendations on what can stay and what should be cut
TV/Media Producers being appointed to various positions

This is a reality show being made to sell. And it not only doesn't bother you, you are drinking the Kool-Aid and defending it based on Biden being an F-ed up President? Just because Biden sucked doesn't give Trump a free pass on everything he does. Hegswith? Noem? Gabbard? Gaetz? Sorry, not blown instilling confidence.
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UNCLE! I give up! Tapping out! You are just never going to be right.

Here is a good forum for you: https://texags.com/forums/16
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UNCLE! I give up! Tapping out! You are just never going to be right.

Here is a good forum for you: https://texags.com/forums/16
Drink your wine and don't read... There is no requirement for you to weigh in on conversations that do not interest you.
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Malbec said:

UNCLE! I give up! Tapping out! You are just never going to be right.

Here is a good forum for you: https://texags.com/forums/16
Drink your wine and don't read... There is no requirement for you to weigh in on conversations that do not interest you.
I am always interested in a good aggie joke. But you just keep telling the same one over and over.
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That may depend on how you get the one-armed Aggie out of the tree versus the end result each party is seeking versus what is best for the better good.
Just saying.
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I wish he wasn't doing this

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Supreme Court cannot pass a law. Only Congress can do that. If this is legit (doubtful), Trump should read the constitution.
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historian said:

Supreme Court cannot pass a law. Only Congress can do that. If this is legit (doubtful), Trump should read the constitution.
He didn't ask the SCOTUS to pass a law, he asked them to 'pause' enforcement.

Depends on who you ask whether that's something SCOTUS does.
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Thanks for the clarification. I missed that. Still, it would not hurt for every politician to read the constitution regularly. All too often they act like they have no idea what is there. Even scarier is how often judges do that. Even SCOTUS justices have done that too often; thankfully not so much lately.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Reading the Federalist Papers wouldn't hurt either. I am not saying that I am a strict constructionist, but if the courts are to rule as to whether or not a law is constitutional, then that is what they should do, pending a constitutional amendment that would say otherwise.
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BUDOS said:

Reading the Federalist Papers wouldn't hurt either. I am not saying that I am a strict constructionist, but if the courts are to rule as to whether or not a law is constitutional, then that is what they should do, pending a constitutional amendment that would say otherwise.
I am becoming a Gorsuch fan and his originalism view.
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The Federalist Papers are definitely a useful tool for understanding the constitution, particularly from the originalist perspective. For example #10 is clear about the Founding Fathers preference for a republic over a democracy. The problem with the Federalist Papers, however, is that they are not easy. They seriously put to shame our education system which produced people who cannot read such texts. They are worth the effort.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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historian said:

The Federalist Papers are definitely a useful tool for understanding the constitution, particularly from the originalist perspective. For example #10 is clear about the Founding Fathers preference for a republic over a democracy. The problem with the Federalist Papers, however, is that they are not easy. They seriously put to shame our education system which produced people who cannot read such texts. They are worth the effort.


I agree. You would like Gorsuch's book if you like Originalist views.
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I think so. I liked Scalia too.
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