The collapse of South Africa?

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South Africanization of the USA intensifiesā€¦.


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The ADL is the enemy of the people

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Another one for the South Africanization of America fileā€¦




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Redbrickbear said:


It was impossible NOT to hear black Zimbabweans express nostalgia for Rhodesia. For working class black Zimbabweans, life was indeed better in many ways in Rhodesia....higher wages, lower costs, better social services (at least in urban areas), etc..... The primary beneficiaries of majority rule were the new socio-political elites ushered in with the Zanu-led government.

It's taken South Africa over a decade longer to fall apart than it did in Zimbabwe. The big difference between the two seems to be that in Zim, the unrest mostly occurred in rural areas, the farms. In South Africa, there seems to be a lot more urban component to the dynamic. There are reasons for that - Rhodesia was an agriculture led economy, while RSA had a far larger industrial base. But I wouldn't over-apply that observation. Racial tensions are the true driving force, and by any measure, they were/are worse in SA than they were in Zim. It was palpable back in the day....
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Jack Bauer said:

The ADL is the enemy of the people


They really are. They are just a mafia like organization that engages in lawfare and shakedown tactics to extort money from companies. They actually have way too much power and they need to be shut down along with the SPLC.
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Jack Bauer said:


Nothing special about Cape Town.

There are at least 10 cities in the United States where it pays to be constantly armed.

And its only getting worse.
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Some friends just recently returned from a two weel hunting trip in South Africa.

Spent over $ 30,000 for the two of them.

Said they felt far safer in the bush than in the cities.
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KaiBear said:

Some friends just recently returned from a two weel hunting trip in South Africa.

Spent over $ 30,000 for the two of them.

Said they felt far safer in the bush than in the cities.

There are a lot of places in the United States that you can say that about.

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fadskier said:

So now, is there a single "non-****hole" country in Africa...Egypt maybe?


If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to go live in mainland Africa, Ethiopia would be the easy winner. If I was given the additional choice of Indian ocean islands probably Mauritius or the Seychelles just because there would be a good bit of ocean separating me from the rest of mainland Africa.

But given current events I increasingly look at whether a place has an ancient Christian culture that has survived or been re-embraced as the primary screening tool for such things. Nepal and Thailand might be the two exceptions to that rule.
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Redbrickbear said:




TTT
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

atomicblast said:

South Africa is the **** hitting the fan scenario that will happen here in the US when whites become the minority. You have the education system peddling hate politics with no resolution other than violence.
I will respectfully disagree, Sir. There are many educated blacks in our country and many hard-working blue collar black men and women that have made their way, risen up, and succeeded. They are not going to allow the deadbeats and criminals to bring them down. My best friend since childhood is a black man. He was the first in his family to get a college degree. No way in Hell he is going back. He worked hard to be where he is today.


Not to discount your personal experience, but (TV advertising aside) they are 15% of the population. His specific demographic is a percentage of a percentage.
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[As Goes South Africa:

It is hard to explain to people Oren Cass's age how the drama of South Africa dominated our discussion in the 1980s. Apartheid was the evil of the era. Mind you, Soviet communism was still a thing, but the media, the academy, and the usual suspects were intensely focused on South Africa. That was as clear a case of Good vs. Evil as they could find anywhere. It made perfect sense to Americans, who applied our own racial history to this rather different situation. I well remember how we all thought that once the wicked white racist government went down, all would be well there. If you doubted it, you must be some kind of racist.

In fact, though I was a campus liberal, I was called so for suggesting in a paper I gave in an opinion journalism class that we should judge South Africa by the standards of African tribalism, not by the standards of the US civil rights movement. My argument was that it would make it easier to understand the complexities of the situation there if we thought of the Boers as one tribe among many but a tribe with white skin. It turns out that all over sub-Saharan Africa of that era, countries were ruled by members of particular tribes, many of whom oppressed their rivals from other tribes. But Americans and Europeans couldn't see that, because these corrupt and oppressive Africans were black.

Well, post-apartheid South Africa has not flourished. In this long reported piece for Tablet, Will Tanner sees in South Africa's fate danger signs for America. Excerpts:

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Though it has avoided the worst outcomes, South Africa is hardly a multiracial paradise. Instead, it has trended toward chaos and internal disaster; its economy is in shambles, its once-budding space and nuclear programs are long gone. Crime rules in place of law and order. South Africa's internal issues are manifold but can be distilled down to two categories: economic tyranny stemming from an unyielding top-down emphasis on racial spoils programs in the diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) mode, and anarcho-tyranny in which the government is both unable and unwilling to protect the Afrikaner, Anglo, and Indian populations from vicious criminals.

The post-apartheid government has imposed racial laws designed to benefit the black majority. This has wrecked the economy:

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The country's economy is shrinking while unemployment is crushingly high. South African universities struggle to produce qualified graduates while being known for overt racial discrimination. Corrupt politicians and party-linked, gangster like entities use the country's racial laws to skim profits off the struggling economy. Basic infrastructure like the hospital system has crumbled. Meanwhile, what's left is being pillaged or frittered away in bribery schemes by some of the most corrupt politicians and civil servants on the planet.

B-BBEE, though an albatross on the neck of South Africa's economy, isn't the country's only pressing issue, however. In April 2023, President Ramaphosa signed the Employment Equity Amendment Act into law requiring "equity," meaning racial-ratio-based representation of staff members in all companies employing 50 people or more, threatening to bring what remains of private enterprise inside the country's racial spoils system.
The result of South Africa's policies, racial and otherwise, is, as the Center for International Development described in "Growth Through Inclusion in South Africa," that its vast post apartheid promise has been frittered away, and economic stagnation has taken hold, impoverishing everyone, regardless of race. As the South African economy has lost critical capabilities, the disadvantaged suffer the most.
Who among us could have guessed that promoting people because of the color of their skin, despite their lack of training or competence, would go bad? Gosh.

Last year I wrote about a memoir by a white South African business executive brought in to save Eskom, the country's power company, which was falling apart under mismanagement. Excerpt from that review essay:
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Maritz said that DEI-obsessed Americans need to learn from the South African experience that when you give people jobs based on race, connections, or any reason other than competence, it will have cascading negative effects throughout the society and economy. There is a serious, material cost to be paid when wokeness is the measure of a company, not its actual performance.

Back to Will Tanner's piece. He says South Africa is now the most crime-ridden country on that anarchic continent:

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The worst of the crimes under which South Africans suffer are the farm murders, in which African criminals use equipment, including signal jammers and automatic weapons, to break into isolated farmsteads and torture, kill, rape, and rob the predominantly Boer inhabitants. These attacks are known for their brutality, with atrocities like drowning children in boiling water and gang-raping female victims being close to the norm rather than radically atypical. Similar atrocities are inflicted on other South Africans, including children.

Here is Tanner's point:

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It seems clear that post-Mandela South Africa is in a state of disaster that seems likely to get worse. In public life, tyranny reigns as the government enforces race-based mandates on companies that are suffering mightily under the burden. In private life, the government levies taxes to pay for welfare programs, but otherwise, it is largely absent as criminals cause an immense amount of suffering and are rarely stopped by the police. Meanwhile, politicians like those in the EFF encourage criminals to engage in more crime as a form of punishment or reparations for apartheid. All of these localized disasters stem from the decision to continue putting race at the center of postapartheid South African life and thereby producing a photo-negative version of the past, rather than trying to build a new and better society.

Tanner goes on to compare South Africa to DEI-obsessed America. Read it all.

And think about this. Click here to listen to VP Harris talk about racial "equity" in disaster relief:]
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Redbrickbear said:





Yet our media ignores it all.

They are certainly scared of something.
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KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:





Yet our media ignores it all.

They are certainly scared of something.
Isn't South Africa so much more peaceful, prosperous, and rich now than when it was ruled by the Afrikaners?
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