xfrodobagginsx said:
Oldbear83 said:
Jesus said what He said, not what you claim, Frodo.
Scripture is very clear.
Not sure why you hold Scripture in such contempt.
Jesus told Paul to reveal the message of Grace to the Gentiles that we are no longer under the law. We are under Grace:
Ephesians 3:2 KJV
[2] if ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
[15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Why do you hold Scripture in contempt? Explain these verses or admit that you are wrong.
sigh
Once again, I go with what
CHRIST said:
"
Whosoever believeth" in John 3:16, not '
if you are a good Jew'Now I must also remind you that you are also arguing against something I never said.
Yes, we are saved by the Grace of God through the Atonement of Christ.
But James makes abundantly clear that
IF someone believes in Christ and follows Him, that man or woman
WILL produce the fruit of the Spirit.
I showed you the people in the New Testament who
thought or
pretended to be followers of Christ, but they were not, as their works showed.
This is why James 2:26 reads ""
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
This is why Paul (whom you count more highly than Christ) also said "
work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" in Phillipians 2:12. He was warning us all not to take our Salvation for granted.
There are many places in the Gospel accounts where we are told that people who first believed fell away. It's very important to heed those warnings and not repeat that mistake.