Oldbear83 said:

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There is one in the Bible who always attacks and accuses.

Might not be a good plan to copy his style, brother.

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Like what you're doing right now?

You really aren't the one to hand out judgements as you're doing. You really aren't.

You continue to do you.

I was told to warn you, and did so.

Peace unto you, then.

Oldbear83 said:

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You continue to do you.

I was told to warn you, and did so.

Peace unto you, then.

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Yes, I will continue to argue for the truth with substance. And you will continue to oppose me without substance, attacking me for whatever motivations you think I have, which are clear projections of your own psyche. You will also continue to cower from calling out clear idolatry and heresy as you promote the mentality that Christians should not be standing for the truth against false beliefs because it's "pride" to do so.

"I was told to warn you... " - as wrong as you've been, maybe you shouldn't be listening to this voice.

I listen to the Holy Spirit. The voice you heed tells you to insult and assault.

Oldbear83 said:

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I listen to the Holy Spirit. The voice you heed tells you to insult and assault.

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Says the guy who has made a living here insulting and assaulting others in his constant and petty back and forths in virtually every thread he engages in. The guy who constantly lodges personal attacks on me for simply asking him questions and challenging his views and calling him out for dodging them. The guy who literally called me Satan, directly and indirectly, many times.

And regarding your views - you are steeped in just as much deception as the RC's and Orthodox are. This has been clearlly revealed by the many things you've said. I truly, truly doubt that it was the Holy Spirit who caused you to:

• continuously cower from calling out clear Marian idolatry and heresy and other clearly false Roman Catholic or Orthodox beliefs;
• shame Christians from standing for the truth against false teaching;
• constantly project your own selfish motivations and pride onto others and then criticize them for it;
• fail to discern that a person who rejects the Bible as God's word, who believes the church should validate homosexual couples, and who believes that Islam is one of the "many paths to the narrow gate" is NOT a Christian (you fully believe he is a "brother in Christ");
• believe that it was God acting behind the Lady of Guadalupe - the apparition who said to build a church in HER honor, and who is the object of idolatrous worship for many Roman Catholics in Central and South America.
• and so many more utterly, utterly wrong beliefs....

Anyone can claim that they're listening to the Holy Spirit. But you are revealed by your fruits.

Your spirit is venom.

You prove it over and over.

God help you

Oldbear83 said:

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Your spirit is venom.

You prove it over and over.

God help you

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My spirit is to uphold the truth and fight against what's evil and false.

You frequently espouse false beleifs and take utterly wrong stances.

And when you're called out, you constantly play the victim and refuse to humble yourself and acknowledge your error. Rather, you go in the completely opposite direction and play holy and righteous, and cast judgements from your high position.

It's a very problematic pattern. You are essentially immunizing yourself against any correction. The result is you are stuck in a mindtrap and in a mire of false views. This is most definitely NOT from the Holy Spirit.

You only post to attack and insult.

That's an established fact.

The Holy Spirit speaks of a spirit and character which never shows up in your posts.

I am not perfect, but I try to respect where possible, disagree peaceably, and for the most part if disagreement cannot be undone, I move on without looking for a fight.

You have chosen a course that is neither Christian in character nor effective in purpose.

You make every discussion about your opinion, not seeking to serve our Lord.

Oldbear83 said:

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You only post to attack and insult.

That's an established fact.

The Holy Spirit speaks of a spirit and character which never shows up in your posts.

I am not perfect, but I try to respect where possible, disagree peaceably, and for the most part if disagreement cannot be undone, I move on without looking for a fight.

You have chosen a course that is neither Christian in character nor effective in purpose.

You make every discussion about your opinion, not seeking to serve our Lord.

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Show us exactly where I was the one who first "attacked and insulted" you in this latest back and forth. Go ahead, point it out. Show us who it was who began the passive aggressive casting of judgements from his lofty positiion.

We'll be waiting...

Oldbear83 said:

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You only post to attack and insult.

That's an established fact.

The Holy Spirit speaks of a spirit and character which never shows up in your posts.

I am not perfect, but I try to respect where possible, disagree peaceably, and for the most part if disagreement cannot be undone, I move on without looking for a fight.

You have chosen a course that is neither Christian in character nor effective in purpose.

You make every discussion about your opinion, not seeking to serve our Lord.

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You really need to stop claiming you know what is of the Holy Spirit and what isn't, and that you're the one imbued with it while others lack it.

You really do not have the discernment associated with the Holy Spirit. It's plainly obvious from what you have said and stood for, examples of which I clearly laid out above.

Oldbear83 said:

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You have chosen a course that is neither Christian in character nor effective in purpose.

You make every discussion about your opinion, not seeking to serve our Lord.

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You obviously have no idea what Christian character entails. Christians are not all supposed to be warm and fuzzy, but also stand for what's true at the expense of being hated and being called names (sound familiar?)

As for my "effectiveness" - just because you don't see it, doesn't mean that I haven't been effective. In fact, I'm encouraged that you don't see it.

I make every discussion about MY opinion? What an outright lie. I engage others' opinions, and invite their arguments against mine. I tried doing that many times with you, but you always end up dodging the argument and playing the victim, calling me a "Pharisee" and "bully" for holding you to your argument. It's a very tiring and pathetic pattern. Everyone has seen it and knows this is what you do.

What is "serving the Lord"? I'll tell you, I sure don't think it's cowering from identifying Marian idolatry and heresy when dealing with Catholics. I sure don't think it's making Catholics or others comfortable in their beliefs which are leading them to Hell. Once again, you'd be better off worrying about the plank in your own eye.

More attacks from a man who has no other mode.

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You only post to attack and insult.

That's an established fact.

The Holy Spirit speaks of a spirit and character which never shows up in your posts.

I am not perfect, but I try to respect where possible, disagree peaceably, and for the most part if disagreement cannot be undone, I move on without looking for a fight.

You have chosen a course that is neither Christian in character nor effective in purpose.

You make every discussion about your opinion, not seeking to serve our Lord.

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Show us exactly where I was the one who first "attacked and insulted" you in this latest back and forth. Go ahead, point it out. Show us who it was who began the passive aggressive casting of judgements from his lofty positiion.

We'll be waiting...

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Still waiting, OldBear.

It's dangerous for anyone to pretend they are morally above everyone else in the room as you always do, BTD.

I gave you insight, you refuse to heed it.

Sadly the same as ever, your opposition to changing course.