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I will give you several. Atlantic Council is right-leaning on bias. You will disagree, why? Because life looks different when you are one of the haves...




Mapped: The World's Most Prosperous Countries in 2026 and Where Prosperity Outruns Freedom | Mappr


You tell me name one Nation with the wealth discrepancy we have where the normal person is better off? You give me a hard time about middle ground. Most of the world is the middle ground. You are an elitist and look out for the wealthy. Like Reagan's supply side, how much trickle down actually happened, the wealth differential sky rocketed.

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Good grief. None of the Nordic Countries at the top of that list are a very good example of countries which sought to "punish the wealthy" via wealth redistribution like the various communist regimes which rose & fell during the 20th century. Indeed, one of the top 2-3 lessons of the 20th century is: "central planning doesn't work." Doesn't matter whether you do it on behalf of race (Nazi Germany) or on behalf of class (USSR). It is a prescription for disaster.

As for subjective measures like "Freedom Index".......our GDP per capita is TWICE that of the EU. Our poorest state has a higher GDP per capita than every country in Europe except for Germany. And the gap is widening as they continue to choke down their economies with onerous rules, high tax rates, and lavish social programs that over time tend to choke off private sector investment..

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That is your problem, GDP is not everything. This index, it you looked at it says that openly.

It actually has very little impact on the common person's life UNLESS it is used for the betterment of the citizenship's quality of life. You continually take the position of the 1% with no concern for the 99% that actually have to live with your decisions. I hear it every week, the CFO saying we are good financially. Yeah, because you won't let us spend anything. Those Nation's balance the business with the quality of life. You don't have 65-year-olds worrying if they can afford their prescriptions or getting their teeth fixed. GDP is only a good metric for the common person based on how it is used. You guys are gutting the US and transferring the wealth to the elite.

That is going to be people' like yours's downfall, it is not all about GDP. The only people right now benefiting are those that can afford to worry whether they can get into the SpaceX IPO. Funny, since Trump won and Musk was allowed to DOGE the Government he is now a Trillionaire. Funny how that happens.

Warum nimmt man nicht sein Geld um den Krieg zu finanzieren?

— micha_proml 🇩🇪 (@Micha_proml) June 8, 2026

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I will give you several. Atlantic Council is right-leaning on bias. You will disagree, why? Because life looks different when you are one of the haves...




Mapped: The World's Most Prosperous Countries in 2026 and Where Prosperity Outruns Freedom | Mappr


You tell me name one Nation with the wealth discrepancy we have where the normal person is better off? You give me a hard time about middle ground. Most of the world is the middle ground. You are an elitist and look out for the wealthy. Like Reagan's supply side, how much trickle down actually happened, the wealth differential sky rocketed.

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Good grief. None of the Nordic Countries at the top of that list are a very good example of countries which sought to "punish the wealthy" via wealth redistribution like the various communist regimes which rose & fell during the 20th century. Indeed, one of the top 2-3 lessons of the 20th century is: "central planning doesn't work." Doesn't matter whether you do it on behalf of race (Nazi Germany) or on behalf of class (USSR). It is a prescription for disaster.

As for subjective measures like "Freedom Index".......our GDP per capita is TWICE that of the EU. Our poorest state has a higher GDP per capita than every country in Europe except for Germany. And the gap is widening as they continue to choke down their economies with onerous rules, high tax rates, and lavish social programs that over time tend to choke off private sector investment..

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That is your problem, GDP is not everything. This index, it you looked at it says that openly.

It actually has very little impact on the common person's life UNLESS it is used for the betterment of the citizenship's quality of life. You continually take the position of the 1% with no concern for the 99% that actually have to live with your decisions. I hear it every week, the CFO saying we are good financially. Yeah, because you won't let us spend anything. Those Nation's balance the business with the quality of life. You don't have 65-year-olds worrying if they can afford their prescriptions or getting their teeth fixed. GDP is only a good metric for the common person based on how it is used. You guys are gutting the US and transferring the wealth to the elite.

That is going to be people' like yours's downfall, it is not all about GDP. The only people right now benefiting are those that can afford to worry whether they can get into the SpaceX IPO. Funny, since Trump won and Musk was allowed to DOGE the Government he is now a Trillionaire. Funny how that happens.

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Sorry, none of the countries on that list are socialist countries engaged in command-control economic planning. In fact, some of them ONCE were and abandoned it.

At least you didn't go after "boomers."

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Who said anything about Socialism? I gave you examples of Nations doing it better than what you propose.

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Don't distract him while he's back-pedaling. He might fall over and hurt himself.

Another day another $100 million stolen from the American tax payer by a jew...

Once a shadowy dealmaker, former Zelenskyy associate is accused in Ukrainian corruption scandal

A jewish business and friend of Zelenskyy stole USD 100 million from US Aid money earmarked for Ukraine and fled to Israel.

Stealing from goyim is allowed in the Talmud.

Pax Judaica needs to end pic.twitter.com/azj6qAojc6

— Mads Palsvig (@Palsvig) June 8, 2026

After he stole the money he fled to Israel like they always do...

Journalists found Mindich in Israel: what does this mean for the case

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Russia Proclaims Final Victory Over Key City Of Pokrovsk On Eve Of Putin-Witkoff Peace Plan Meeting

"Update(1710ET): Russia finally and formally announced Monday its forces have captured the city of Pokrovsk in eastern Ukraine, the long fought-over strategic military logistics hub, as well as the city of Vovchansk in the northeast.

The capture of Pokrovsk has long been seen as inevitable, after starting weeks ago Russian troops were filmed patrolling freely and casually in a southern district of the city which had a pre-war population of 60,000.
Russia's military chief of staff, Valery Gerasimov, on Sunday had "informed [President] Vladimir Putin of the liberation of the cities of Krasnoarmeysk and Vovchansk," according to the Kremlin statement first released on Telegram Monday. Krasnoarmeysk is the Russian name for Pokrovsk.

Pokrovsk has long been seen as military gateway for control over the whole east, and if there were any doubts about Russia's military dominance along the frontlines - the overrunning of Pokrovsk has laid these doubts to rest."

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I did a quick count, and that is the 11th time in over a year that Russia has claimed it captured Pokrovsk. Russia's own millbloggers have acknowledged it has cost tens of thousands of Russian soldiers with many more injured.

Congrats on taking another abandoned town with zero remaining strategic significance, Vlad!

BTW, are you finally admitting to supporting Russia?

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Leave it to the "chosen people" to unite the Serbs and Albanians against a common enemy...

Albanians have the foresight to understand the risks. In Serbia in 2025 Kushner's firm abandoned a $500 million project following intense public backlash and criminal indictments of Serbian government officials for allegedly forging documents to bypass cultural protections.…

— Sidney Cotton (@Steph36Seaton) June 5, 2026

This is Oleksandr Tsukerman and Timur Mindich.

'Ukrainian' oligarchs who embezzled hundreds of millions of dollars and have now fled to 'israel' to be free from international extradition.

This is the filth hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have died and lost limbs for. pic.twitter.com/HDUjHvCbXz

— UNN (@UnityNewsNet) November 23, 2025

😂NABU has asked Israel for help in locating nearly a ton (!) of gold and $17 million, which Timur Mindich—known as "Zelensky's wallet"—smuggled out of Ukraine on a private jet - Haaretz pic.twitter.com/StvUn9NeyI

— cvetko35 (@cvetko35) June 7, 2026

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Who said anything about Socialism? I gave you examples of Nations doing it better than what you propose.

All have healthcare for their citizens. All have free education. The Government uses the money to make their lives better, not dole it to the top 1%. You dont have to go full blown Socialism. But I get it, you prefer it going to you. How much of your Data Centers and Factories are subsidized through tax breaks, incentives and development agreements? Your bonuses tied to those efficiencies?

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LOL you did. You are constantly talking about the 1% and other class claptrap

back to the subject of the thread.....

It appears Russian mobilization has peaked and will get slowly weaker from here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-winning-war-russia-retired-us-generals/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=958419774

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back to the subject of the thread.....

It appears Russian mobilization has peaked and will get slowly weaker from here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-winning-war-russia-retired-us-generals/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=958419774

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Back to this thread, why isnt the CIA extracting this jewish thug that stole $100 million from the US tax payer out of Israel?

Either the CIA is completely impotent, incompetent, or it works for Israel... either way it needs to be completely abolished.

Moving to oppose Finland and Baltics.

The top 1% controls 55T of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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Its worse than that .... we are handing $100 million dollars out like candy to foreign jewish criminals!

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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Its worse than that .... we are handing $100 million dollars out like candy to foreign jewish criminals!

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you two make a fine pair

And with the War in Iran potentially ending, the neocon pivot back to Zelenskyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy begins.

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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Its worse than that .... we are handing $100 million dollars out like candy to foreign jewish criminals!

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you two make a fine pair

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How much did you embezzle from the tax payer while you worked for the CIA?

Two countries on Nato's eastern flank have warned that Russia is preparing a possible "provocation" in the Baltic states or Poland in an effort to test the cohesion of the western military alliance.

Western sources also fear there could be danger on the horizon because the Kremlin is coming under pressure from Ukraine's campaign of long-range attacks on targets near Moscow and St Petersburg.

On Monday, Latvian intelligence said: "We see indications that Russia is preparing military provocations against the Baltic countries or Poland." However, it would be well short of a full-scale attack.

A senior political source from a second Nato member made a similar statement last week. They said "we are picking up intelligence" that Vladimir Putin was "planning something against the Baltic states".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/26/russia-provocation-baltic-states-poland

We are there because Comrade Putin is committing genocide: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/u-s-lawmakers-visiting-the-hague-say-putin-is-committing-genocide-in-ukraine

Interesting how the looney left party only sensationalizes one genocide going on in the world..

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back to the subject of the thread.....

It appears Russian mobilization has peaked and will get slowly weaker from here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-winning-war-russia-retired-us-generals/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=958419774

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Back to this thread, why isnt the CIA extracting this jewish thug that stole $100 million from the US tax payer out of Israel?

Either the CIA is completely impotent, incompetent, or it works for Israel... either way it needs to be completely abolished.

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I would imagine it's because, this particular moment, he's winning the war against our 2nd greatest geopolitical ally. Let the guy finish the job THEN hold him accountable for all the other stuff. Trying to fix it now destabilizes Ukraine and throws Russia a lifeline.

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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It's always been like that, or worse, throughout history. As ranked by the Gini Coefficient, Sweden is #1 and we are 41st. There are, of course, mitigating factors in that, not the least of which is that Sweden most of the countries above us are wholly or partly defended by our military, which of course takes a lot more tax base. Easiest way to raise tax base is chase national wealth, in which case the Pareto effect which invariably causes increases in wealth to be greater at the upper end of the spectrum than the lower.

Your class claptrap is the first rung on the DSA platform ladder. Keep it up. Can't wait until you start talking about redistribution.

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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Its worse than that .... we are handing $100 million dollars out like candy to foreign jewish criminals!

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you two make a fine pair

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Says the CEO pushing Data Centers...

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whiterock said:

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back to the subject of the thread.....

It appears Russian mobilization has peaked and will get slowly weaker from here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-winning-war-russia-retired-us-generals/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=958419774

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Back to this thread, why isnt the CIA extracting this jewish thug that stole $100 million from the US tax payer out of Israel?

Either the CIA is completely impotent, incompetent, or it works for Israel... either way it needs to be completely abolished.

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I would imagine it's because, this particular moment, he's winning the war against our 2nd greatest geopolitical ally. Let the guy finish the job THEN hold him accountable for all the other stuff. Trying to fix it now destabilizes Ukraine and throws Russia a lifeline.

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Not that I support the Ukranians, but do you really think the guy who ran off to Israel on a plane loaded with gold and money is somehow helping them win the war???

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I would imagine it's because, this particular moment, he's winning the war against our 2nd greatest geopolitical ally. Let the guy finish the job THEN hold him accountable for all the other stuff. Trying to fix it now destabilizes Ukraine and throws Russia a lifeline.

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Come on. You're too smart to believe he's actually winning this war with all of Lugansk and 85%-90% of Donetsk in Russian hands.

I know the IC is running a month long psy-op along those lines, but the truth is too easy to find at this point.

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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Its worse than that .... we are handing $100 million dollars out like candy to foreign jewish criminals!

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You are foreskin focused.

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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Its worse than that .... we are handing $100 million dollars out like candy to foreign jewish criminals!

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You are foreskin focused.

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Are you a ****ing idiiot?

He stole $100 million!

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The top 1% controls 55% of the wealth! How do you have a society with the top 1% untouchable? Unless you are top 1% then it is great, view the rest of us as your servants.

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Its worse than that .... we are handing $100 million dollars out like candy to foreign jewish criminals!

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You are foreskin focused.

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Are you a ****ing idiiot?

He stole $100 million!

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Not sure in ****ing. Even if I am, that doesn't change your focus on people who've had a bris.

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whiterock said:

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back to the subject of the thread.....

It appears Russian mobilization has peaked and will get slowly weaker from here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-winning-war-russia-retired-us-generals/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=958419774

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Back to this thread, why isnt the CIA extracting this jewish thug that stole $100 million from the US tax payer out of Israel?

Either the CIA is completely impotent, incompetent, or it works for Israel... either way it needs to be completely abolished.

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I would imagine it's because, this particular moment, he's winning the war against our 2nd greatest geopolitical ally. Let the guy finish the job THEN hold him accountable for all the other stuff. Trying to fix it now destabilizes Ukraine and throws Russia a lifeline.

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Not that I support the Ukranians, but do you really think the guy who ran off to Israel on a plane loaded with gold and money is somehow helping them win the war???

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Well, Ukraine is clearly winning the war at the moment.....

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I would imagine it's because, this particular moment, he's winning the war against our 2nd greatest geopolitical ally. Let the guy finish the job THEN hold him accountable for all the other stuff. Trying to fix it now destabilizes Ukraine and throws Russia a lifeline.

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Come on. You're too smart to believe he's actually winning this war with all of Lugansk and 85%-90% of Donetsk in Russian hands.

I know the IC is running a month long psy-op along those lines, but the truth is too easy to find at this point.

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Nearly all the metrics suggest they have peaked and are on a slow downhill slide. They cannot afford a peace deal on status quo, trends are turning against them (Ukraine logging a couple of months with net positive gains in territory), and they cannot force a change in that dynamic. Forces beyond their control would have to intervene to save them from a 12-24 month devolution into political upheaval.

You have never accepted reality: Russia is in a proxy with an entity (Nato) which has 10x greater GDP. It's only path to victory is for a Ukrainian collapse leading to rapid Russia victory. That didn't happen. Among all scenarios at this time, such is now the least likely outcome. So Russia faces an economy which is past peak mobilization, with increasing labor shortages and declining energy prices squeezing their federal budgets, etc..... They've lost the technicological edge on the battlefield, and are basically putting up flesh against machines (drones), bending the casualty ratios even further in Ukrainian favor.

The only viable plan Russia has is to hold on long enough for some unforeseen miracle to materialize out of thin air. They cannot do that that for another 24 months.

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whiterock said:

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I would imagine it's because, this particular moment, he's winning the war against our 2nd greatest geopolitical ally. Let the guy finish the job THEN hold him accountable for all the other stuff. Trying to fix it now destabilizes Ukraine and throws Russia a lifeline.

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Come on. You're too smart to believe he's actually winning this war with all of Lugansk and 85%-90% of Donetsk in Russian hands.

I know the IC is running a month long psy-op along those lines, but the truth is too easy to find at this point.

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Nearly all the metrics suggest they have peaked and are on a slow downhill slide. They cannot afford a peace deal on status quo, trends are turning against them (Ukraine logging a couple of months with net positive gains in territory), and they cannot force a change in that dynamic. Forces beyond their control would have to intervene to save them from a 12-24 month devolution into political upheaval.

You have never accepted reality: Russia is in a proxy with an entity (Nato) which has 10x greater GDP. It's only path to victory is for a Ukrainian collapse leading to rapid Russia victory. That didn't happen. Among all scenarios at this time, such is now the least likely outcome. So Russia faces an economy which is past peak mobilization, with increasing labor shortages and declining energy prices squeezing their federal budgets, etc..... They've lost the technicological edge on the battlefield, and are basically putting up flesh against machines (drones), bending the casualty ratios even further in Ukrainian favor.

The only viable plan Russia has is to hold on long enough for some unforeseen miracle to materialize out of thin air. They cannot do that that for another 24 months.

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No. They could use tactical nukes like you want America to use in Iran.

Ukraine's Desperate Propaganda Campaign While Russia Advances Along The Entire Front

"Volodymyr Zelensky and his Western backers have launched a desperate 40-day "campaign of terrors" which includes a mix of military escalations and a massive information/psyops operation designed to portray Russia as collapsing and Putin as facing an imminent uprising or coup. The goal is to force Russia into a ceasefire. Western audiences are being flooded with social media and regular media articles that paint a dire picture of Russia's military campaign, while touting Ukraine's incredible accomplishments. It is all a load of crap, but that is all the West has left in its quiver as Russia's campaign of attrition continues to pulverize Ukraine.

The Western-led propaganda campaign consists of the following elements:

• Information Warfare Heavy push of 24/7 propaganda about Putin's "imminent downfall," including staged videos of supposed Russian soldiers announcing a mutiny.
• Fake Psyops Coordinated attempts to stoke panic in Russia (e.g., false claims of fuel/gas shortages, which were partly caused by panic buying triggered by the rumors).
• Symbolic Actions Staged drone flag-drops (e.g., on the Kinburn Spit near Crimea) meant to symbolize Russian retreat and collapse quickly debunked and mocked.
• Broader Objective Combine these narratives with actual strikes on Russian infrastructure to create the impression of regime instability, pressuring Putin politically.

Now for the reality. Yes, Ukraine has hit some Russian refineries and created some spectacular visuals of billowing smoke and fire. However, this is nothing more than military political theater that is intended to distract from Ukraine's setbacks all along the front. As a side note, Russian oil exports have increased during this same period, putting to bed the narrative that Russia's oil industry in suffering catastrophic losses.

Here is a summary of Russian activity, starting in the Northern section of the front:"

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Ukraine's Desperate Propaganda Campaign While Russia Advances Along The Entire Front

"Volodymyr Zelensky and his Western backers have launched a desperate 40-day "campaign of terrors" which includes a mix of military escalations and a massive information/psyops operation designed to portray Russia as collapsing and Putin as facing an imminent uprising or coup. The goal is to force Russia into a ceasefire. Western audiences are being flooded with social media and regular media articles that paint a dire picture of Russia's military campaign, while touting Ukraine's incredible accomplishments. It is all a load of crap, but that is all the West has left in its quiver as Russia's campaign of attrition continues to pulverize Ukraine.

The Western-led propaganda campaign consists of the following elements:

• Information Warfare Heavy push of 24/7 propaganda about Putin's "imminent downfall," including staged videos of supposed Russian soldiers announcing a mutiny.
• Fake Psyops Coordinated attempts to stoke panic in Russia (e.g., false claims of fuel/gas shortages, which were partly caused by panic buying triggered by the rumors).
• Symbolic Actions Staged drone flag-drops (e.g., on the Kinburn Spit near Crimea) meant to symbolize Russian retreat and collapse quickly debunked and mocked.
• Broader Objective Combine these narratives with actual strikes on Russian infrastructure to create the impression of regime instability, pressuring Putin politically.

Now for the reality. Yes, Ukraine has hit some Russian refineries and created some spectacular visuals of billowing smoke and fire. However, this is nothing more than military political theater that is intended to distract from Ukraine's setbacks all along the front. As a side note, Russian oil exports have increased during this same period, putting to bed the narrative that Russia's oil industry in suffering catastrophic losses.

Here is a summary of Russian activity, starting in the Northern section of the front:"

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It is a war. We will see at some point whose propaganda is closer to reality. Meantime, take all wth a grain of salt. Russia obviously has problems if it cannot take down Ukraine after 4 and a half years in which they have had large material and manpower advantages.

I saw where Russia has asked Belarus to open a new front of the war against Ukraine and they refused saying they can't defend against Ukraine drones. Putin ain't happy.

Here's video of Lukashenko talking to Putin about attacking Ukraine.

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whiterock said:

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I would imagine it's because, this particular moment, he's winning the war against our 2nd greatest geopolitical ally. Let the guy finish the job THEN hold him accountable for all the other stuff. Trying to fix it now destabilizes Ukraine and throws Russia a lifeline.

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Come on. You're too smart to believe he's actually winning this war with all of Lugansk and 85%-90% of Donetsk in Russian hands.

I know the IC is running a month long psy-op along those lines, but the truth is too easy to find at this point.

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Nearly all the metrics suggest they have peaked and are on a slow downhill slide. They cannot afford a peace deal on status quo, trends are turning against them (Ukraine logging a couple of months with net positive gains in territory), and they cannot force a change in that dynamic. Forces beyond their control would have to intervene to save them from a 12-24 month devolution into political upheaval.

You have never accepted reality: Russia is in a proxy with an entity (Nato) which has 10x greater GDP. It's only path to victory is for a Ukrainian collapse leading to rapid Russia victory. That didn't happen. Among all scenarios at this time, such is now the least likely outcome. So Russia faces an economy which is past peak mobilization, with increasing labor shortages and declining energy prices squeezing their federal budgets, etc..... They've lost the technicological edge on the battlefield, and are basically putting up flesh against machines (drones), bending the casualty ratios even further in Ukrainian favor.

The only viable plan Russia has is to hold on long enough for some unforeseen miracle to materialize out of thin air. They cannot do that that for another 24 months.

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No. They could use tactical nukes like you want America to use in Iran.

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you are the only one talking about using tactical nukes.