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As usual you continue to show your vatnik stupidity.

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Is everyone a Russian agent?

Or just anyone who opposes neo-con psychopaths and war mongers like you?

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Only the ones actually pushing RU-propaganda like you, vatnik.

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Were you cool with $7 trillion being spent on that absolute train wreck that got thousands of children killed?

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Crazy as it seems, many people do think its cool.

Raised on video games they don't really comprehend the carnage of war.

Till they actually get called up to fight and possibly ripped apart by shrapnel. Or they see first hand what's left of a human body after its been burned to a crisp.

THEN all of a sudden they want to re evaluate the entire situation.

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No only is modern warfare seriously horrible...been that way since smoothed bored muskets were replaced by rifled guns. (From a smooth-bore musket, 42% of bullets hit the target at a distance of 200 yards. At a distance of 300 yards, only 18% of the bullets hit the target. For a rifle, the results were much better. From a rifle, 58% of bullets hit the target at a distance of 300 yards; 42% at 500 yards)

Little valor anymore in getting your legs blow off by a hidden mine or shot dead for peeking up over a trench without even seeing the enemy.


But leaving the horror of modern war aside...no one as explained how the USA has gotten any better at regime change and long term occupation.

We can beat anyone in a peer army to army contest (Russia, China, Iran, anyone) yet as Iraq and Afghanistan showed us we can not regime change successfully or hold these nations long term.

If we could not hold Iraq (smaller than Texas) how are we gonna hold Russia (largest nation on earth) or China (size of the continental USA)?

We have a lot of people rooting on wars with some big nations and with no plan for how we are going to occupy them after the wars are over.

We should be doing our best to avoid wars with such states as Russia, China, Iran....not getting hyped up about the possibility.

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The error in Afghanistan was in not leaving the day after Bin Ladin got buried at sea. If we'd done that, Afghan Policy would have been rightly lauded for the ages.

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Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, and Northrop Grumman would have missed out on hundreds of billions in profit had that been the case. Something to think about.

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Sounds like Pfizer, Moderna, and the ronas.

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The difference being that the Russian threat is imaginary and viruses are real.

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The only thing imaginary is your view of Russia.

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Why do you hate them so much? Please don't give me a list of crimes against "democracy" that the US and its allies have more than matched. I'm curious about the real reason.

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When you stop deep-throating RU propaganda, then we can talk.

I know, I know "Buh whaddabout CIA/NSA/US/Decadent West propaganda!??!"

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At least you admit that CIA/NSA/Washington propaganda is decadent.

I think acknowledging the truth is always a good starting point for having real discussions.

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"Decadent West" is a pro-RU propaganda talking point.

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Of course it is….and it's also true.

Just like "Putin is a thug" is a Western propaganda talking point…that is also true.

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Very cool you realize the 2nd part.

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You just like your propaganda fed to you from one side.

I enjoy analyzing it and questioning all of it.

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Uh huh.

Admittedly there are times you do share something surprising.

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As usual you continue to show your vatnik stupidity.

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Is everyone a Russian agent?

Or just anyone who opposes neo-con psychopaths and war mongers like you?

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Only the ones actually pushing RU-propaganda like you, vatnik.

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Were you cool with $7 trillion being spent on that absolute train wreck that got thousands of children killed?

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Crazy as it seems, many people do think its cool.

Raised on video games they don't really comprehend the carnage of war.

Till they actually get called up to fight and possibly ripped apart by shrapnel. Or they see first hand what's left of a human body after its been burned to a crisp.

THEN all of a sudden they want to re evaluate the entire situation.

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No only is modern warfare seriously horrible...been that way since smoothed bored muskets were replaced by rifled guns. (From a smooth-bore musket, 42% of bullets hit the target at a distance of 200 yards. At a distance of 300 yards, only 18% of the bullets hit the target. For a rifle, the results were much better. From a rifle, 58% of bullets hit the target at a distance of 300 yards; 42% at 500 yards)

Little valor anymore in getting your legs blow off by a hidden mine or shot dead for peeking up over a trench without even seeing the enemy.


But leaving the horror of modern war aside...no one as explained how the USA has gotten any better at regime change and long term occupation.

We can beat anyone in a peer army to army contest (Russia, China, Iran, anyone) yet as Iraq and Afghanistan showed us we can not regime change successfully or hold these nations long term.

If we could not hold Iraq (smaller than Texas) how are we gonna hold Russia (largest nation on earth) or China (size of the continental USA)?

We have a lot of people rooting on wars with some big nations and with no plan for how we are going to occupy them after the wars are over.

We should be doing our best to avoid wars with such states as Russia, China, Iran....not getting hyped up about the possibility.

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The error in Afghanistan was in not leaving the day after Bin Ladin got buried at sea. If we'd done that, Afghan Policy would have been rightly lauded for the ages.

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Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, and Northrop Grumman would have missed out on hundreds of billions in profit had that been the case. Something to think about.

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Sounds like Pfizer, Moderna, and the ronas.

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The difference being that the Russian threat is imaginary and viruses are real.

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The only thing imaginary is your view of Russia.

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Why do you hate them so much? Please don't give me a list of crimes against "democracy" that the US and its allies have more than matched. I'm curious about the real reason.

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When you stop deep-throating RU propaganda, then we can talk.

I know, I know "Buh whaddabout CIA/NSA/US/Decadent West propaganda!??!"

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At least you admit that CIA/NSA/Washington propaganda is decadent.

I think acknowledging the truth is always a good starting point for having real discussions.

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"Decadent West" is a pro-RU propaganda talking point.

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Of course it is….and it's also true.

Just like "Putin is a thug" is a Western propaganda talking point…that is also true.

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Very cool you realize the 2nd part.

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You just like your propaganda fed to you from one side.

I enjoy analyzing it and questioning all of it.

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Uh huh.

Admittedly there are times you do share something surprising.

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I will also go further and say that Russia (along with China and Iran) are also pretty decadent themselves.

Abortion rates in Russia are sky high, in China they were State ENFORCED for decades, and abortion is even allowed in Iran (under an Islamic theocratic government) with "according to official data an estimated 300,000 to 600,000 abortions are performed in Iran every year".

Materialism in all three countries is also out of control....Russia and China especially where their up classes love to take the wealth of the nation and go abroad to spend it.

And the fertility rates have collapsed in all three and the divorce rates are sky rocketing in all three.

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Countries in the "Western Sphere" according to Harvard's School of International Relations Published 2017 pic.twitter.com/RKN6tQSfca

— Epic Maps 🗺️ (@Locati0ns) September 7, 2023

Hurricane relief funds will be tied to Ukraine aid https://t.co/e482g4duIz

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) September 6, 2023

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As usual you continue to show your vatnik stupidity.

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Is everyone a Russian agent?

Or just anyone who opposes neo-con psychopaths and war mongers like you?

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Only the ones actually pushing RU-propaganda like you, vatnik.

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Were you cool with $7 trillion being spent on that absolute train wreck that got thousands of children killed?

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Crazy as it seems, many people do think its cool.

Raised on video games they don't really comprehend the carnage of war.

Till they actually get called up to fight and possibly ripped apart by shrapnel. Or they see first hand what's left of a human body after its been burned to a crisp.

THEN all of a sudden they want to re evaluate the entire situation.

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No only is modern warfare seriously horrible...been that way since smoothed bored muskets were replaced by rifled guns. (From a smooth-bore musket, 42% of bullets hit the target at a distance of 200 yards. At a distance of 300 yards, only 18% of the bullets hit the target. For a rifle, the results were much better. From a rifle, 58% of bullets hit the target at a distance of 300 yards; 42% at 500 yards)

Little valor anymore in getting your legs blow off by a hidden mine or shot dead for peeking up over a trench without even seeing the enemy.


But leaving the horror of modern war aside...no one as explained how the USA has gotten any better at regime change and long term occupation.

We can beat anyone in a peer army to army contest (Russia, China, Iran, anyone) yet as Iraq and Afghanistan showed us we can not regime change successfully or hold these nations long term.

If we could not hold Iraq (smaller than Texas) how are we gonna hold Russia (largest nation on earth) or China (size of the continental USA)?

We have a lot of people rooting on wars with some big nations and with no plan for how we are going to occupy them after the wars are over.

We should be doing our best to avoid wars with such states as Russia, China, Iran....not getting hyped up about the possibility.

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The error in Afghanistan was in not leaving the day after Bin Ladin got buried at sea. If we'd done that, Afghan Policy would have been rightly lauded for the ages.

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Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, and Northrop Grumman would have missed out on hundreds of billions in profit had that been the case. Something to think about.

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Sounds like Pfizer, Moderna, and the ronas.

Isn't the OP still Biden Bribes?

4:40 a.m. ET, January 24, 2023
Ukraine's deputy defense minister resigns amid corruption allegations
From CNN's Kostan Nechyporenko
Ukraine's deputy defense minister Viacheslav Shapovalov has resigned after allegations of corruption surfaced in the media.

Shapovalov submitted his resignation after a "campaign of accusations related to the procurement of food supply (to the Armed Forces of Ukraine)," according to a statement from the ministry, which described the allegations as "unfounded and baseless."

The minister was responsible for the logistics of the Armed Forces, the statement said.

On Monday, the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine said that it was investigating "high-profile media reports about possible abuses by the Ministry of Defense in the procurement of food for the military."

In his resignation letter, Shapovalov said he was leaving so as not to distract from the war effort.

"Due to the large public outcry, which was largely provoked by unsubstantiated manipulations around the issue of supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are risks of destabilizing the army supply processes. This is unacceptable during the war with Russia," reads the letter.

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this is progress. 10 years ago, there'd be no scandal and he'd still have job.

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Not to mention an army.

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Posting this video above this tweet for no particular reason. https://t.co/GaS5tnFH4z pic.twitter.com/zBcrGa70o8

— a newsman (@a_newsman) September 8, 2023

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Over 400,000 dead Ukrainians in a war they stand no chance of winning.

Great job democrats.

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This has the warmongers seething. pic.twitter.com/nHFYwGjvj4

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) September 12, 2023

Twitter's old top censor got his training back in 2014 - before Trump. Organization that trained him has been around since at least 2010, & is funded by usual suspects of Ford, Tides, Soros, Canada, & a barely disguised CIA cutout https://t.co/nCAN10uWfB & https://t.co/cbogCAj88H pic.twitter.com/shc5SUbeOa

— Nemets (@Peter_Nimitz) September 11, 2023

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This has the warmongers seething. pic.twitter.com/nHFYwGjvj4

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) September 12, 2023

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Elon Musk on the request from the Ukrainian Government to turn on Starlink in Crimea: “We figured out that this was kind of like a Pearl Harbor like attack...So they really asked us to proactively take part in a major act of war”

pic.twitter.com/90qWAucR3p

— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) September 12, 2023

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Elon Musk on the request from the Ukrainian Government to turn on Starlink in Crimea: “We figured out that this was kind of like a Pearl Harbor like attack...So they really asked us to proactively take part in a major act of war”

pic.twitter.com/90qWAucR3p

— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) September 12, 2023

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Elon Musk on the request from the Ukrainian Government to turn on Starlink in Crimea: “We figured out that this was kind of like a Pearl Harbor like attack...So they really asked us to proactively take part in a major act of war”

pic.twitter.com/90qWAucR3p

— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) September 12, 2023

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What a load of shlt. A Pearl Harbor attack?!? That's absolutely laughable and utterly embarrassing for Elon.

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A # of Russian Telegram channels posted videos of explosions and a fire reportedly at the 13th Ship Repair Plant in Sevastopol, possibly from a missile strike. https://t.co/Pr645WM7Kthttps://t.co/6vKPel4yhthttps://t.co/jXTfViRBy9https://t.co/6AQB0skAdKhttps://t.co/p13j5iL0gt pic.twitter.com/Fgg1FTPKkn

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) September 13, 2023

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The Russians aren't transing their kids. The Russian ambassador to Hungary isn't lecturing that nation about LGBTQ garbage. Chinese kids are learning math, not climate change. We have met the enemy and he is us.

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US protectorate being mocked by US proxy.

There is less respect for Germany now than there was when they were present at Versailles to sign on to the partition of their own country. https://t.co/PgzGr3uE5v

— FbF (@FistedFoucault) September 12, 2023

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The Russians aren't transing their kids. The Russian ambassador to Hungary isn't lecturing that nation about LGBTQ garbage. Chinese kids are learning math, not climate change. We have met the enemy and he is us.

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All true.

And yet the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians are still not having any kids so it does not matter much.

All have below replacement fertility rates.

China has one of the lowest on earth (probably well below 1.2)

"China's fertility rate is estimated to have dropped to a record low of 1.09 in 2022, the National Business Daily said on Tuesday, a figure likely to rattle authorities as they try to boost the country's declining number of new births."

And Hungary (God bless them for trying) has massive state subsidies for having kids and no income tax if you have 4 kids…and yet their fertility rate is around the same as the USA (1.6 to 1.7)

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FLBear5630 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Russians aren't transing their kids. The Russian ambassador to Hungary isn't lecturing that nation about LGBTQ garbage. Chinese kids are learning math, not climate change. We have met the enemy and he is us.

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All true.

And yet the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians are still not having any kids so it does not matter much.

All have below replacement fertility rates.

China has one of the lowest on earth (probably well below 1.2)

"China's fertility rate is estimated to have dropped to a record low of 1.09 in 2022, the National Business Daily said on Tuesday, a figure likely to rattle authorities as they try to boost the country's declining number of new births."

And Hungary (God bless them for trying) has massive state subsidies for having kids and no income tax if you have 4 kids…and yet their fertility rate is around the same as the USA (1.6 to 1.7)

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But they can drop a billion and still have more than we do ..

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trey3216 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Russians aren't transing their kids. The Russian ambassador to Hungary isn't lecturing that nation about LGBTQ garbage. Chinese kids are learning math, not climate change. We have met the enemy and he is us.

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All true.

And yet the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians are still not having any kids so it does not matter much.

All have below replacement fertility rates.

China has one of the lowest on earth (probably well below 1.2)

"China's fertility rate is estimated to have dropped to a record low of 1.09 in 2022, the National Business Daily said on Tuesday, a figure likely to rattle authorities as they try to boost the country's declining number of new births."

And Hungary (God bless them for trying) has massive state subsidies for having kids and no income tax if you have 4 kids…and yet their fertility rate is around the same as the USA (1.6 to 1.7)

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But they can drop a billion and still have more than we do ..

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That's a big ass country for only twice the people as us

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FLBear5630 said:

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trey3216 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Russians aren't transing their kids. The Russian ambassador to Hungary isn't lecturing that nation about LGBTQ garbage. Chinese kids are learning math, not climate change. We have met the enemy and he is us.

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All true.

And yet the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians are still not having any kids so it does not matter much.

All have below replacement fertility rates.

China has one of the lowest on earth (probably well below 1.2)

"China's fertility rate is estimated to have dropped to a record low of 1.09 in 2022, the National Business Daily said on Tuesday, a figure likely to rattle authorities as they try to boost the country's declining number of new births."

And Hungary (God bless them for trying) has massive state subsidies for having kids and no income tax if you have 4 kids…and yet their fertility rate is around the same as the USA (1.6 to 1.7)

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But they can drop a billion and still have more than we do ..

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That's a big ass country for only twice the people as us

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China - 1.41 billion
US - 339 million

Yeah, the can drop a billion and be bigger than the US...

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Realitybites said:

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The Russians aren't transing their kids. The Russian ambassador to Hungary isn't lecturing that nation about LGBTQ garbage. Chinese kids are learning math, not climate change. We have met the enemy and he is us.

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All true.

And yet the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians are still not having any kids so it does not matter much.

All have below replacement fertility rates.

China has one of the lowest on earth (probably well below 1.2)

"China's fertility rate is estimated to have dropped to a record low of 1.09 in 2022, the National Business Daily said on Tuesday, a figure likely to rattle authorities as they try to boost the country's declining number of new births."

And Hungary (God bless them for trying) has massive state subsidies for having kids and no income tax if you have 4 kids…and yet their fertility rate is around the same as the USA (1.6 to 1.7)

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But they can drop a billion and still have more than we do ..

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That's a big ass country for only twice the people as us

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China - 1.41 billion
US - 339 million

Yeah, the can drop a billion and be bigger than the US...

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I was thinking they were closer to 1.7bn people, which if they dropped 1bn, would be 700mm people, or roughly twice the US. That was what I said.

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The whole video is unhinged, but it is amusing how the sicko tranny-fetishist imported from America (almost certainly atheist) still has to talk about "Faith in God" at the end because Ukrainians aren't yet totally deracinated. https://t.co/V7kW8QbD1I

— ib (@Indian_Bronson) September 13, 2023

Cranking back up the Afghanistan nation-building money laundering machine, and putting the billionaire heiress/sister of the Illinois governor in charge of it.

In broad daylight. Incredible. https://t.co/aVEmsqipUb

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) September 14, 2023

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Cranking back up the Afghanistan nation-building money laundering machine, and putting the billionaire heiress/sister of the Illinois governor in charge of it.

In broad daylight. Incredible. https://t.co/aVEmsqipUb

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) September 14, 2023

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Cranking back up the Afghanistan nation-building money laundering machine, and putting the billionaire heiress/sister of the Illinois governor in charge of it.

In broad daylight. Incredible. https://t.co/aVEmsqipUb

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) September 14, 2023

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Someone from Illinois government??? Haven't they been bankrupt since Blogo???

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trey3216 said:

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Cranking back up the Afghanistan nation-building money laundering machine, and putting the billionaire heiress/sister of the Illinois governor in charge of it.

In broad daylight. Incredible. https://t.co/aVEmsqipUb

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) September 14, 2023

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Someone from Illinois government??? Haven't they been bankrupt since Blogo???

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they've been functionally bankrupt since well before then. But actually since right around then.

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How many of you guys would support a US hot war with Russia?

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No one wants war with Russia. NATO has appeased Russia for decades trying to avoid it. Unfortunately, Russia has proven both in Crimea and the Donbas that appeasement is wholly infective as a war deterrent.

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We're going to be in a hot war with Russia. Its going to happen.

Do you not understand how insane DC is?

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That will be Russia's decision. The only way we end up in a war with Russia is they attack a member of NATO. And ceding Ukraine to Russia only makes that more likely.

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No. If Russia takes all of Ukraine (highly unlikely) then it has the buffer it wanted.

Unless you're talking about neocons convincing a US president to start a hot war. Highly unlikely.

I don't see a hot war with Russia.

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You'll have to forgive me for having a healthy of amount of skepticism when those who were adamant that Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine try to convince me now he'll be satisfied with his "buffer."

The West has underestimated and appeased Putin for decades. That's precisely what's put us in this mess to begin with. We tried to sand his rough edges through the media and normalize his insanity for years instead of treating him like the KGB thug he is.

I'm frankly tired of being told by Western politicians, media and partisans what Putin does/doesn't want and what his motives are. At this point, I'll take him at his word. The guy has told and shown us exactly who is. It's well past time to believe him.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Cranking back up the Afghanistan nation-building money laundering machine, and putting the billionaire heiress/sister of the Illinois governor in charge of it.

In broad daylight. Incredible. https://t.co/aVEmsqipUb

— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) September 14, 2023

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The brilliant Dave Smith on NATO expansion.

pic.twitter.com/vwfe2bJnB3

— The Redheaded libertarian (@TRHLofficial) September 18, 2023