This is lie. I don’t know how to community note this. Gonzo Lira is a sex trafficker. He came to my country before start of war to try to sell his “sure fire” way of getting Ukrainian women into bed. Before we could arrest his raping ass, war breakout and he join Russian https://t.co/ciN0rdvgSl
— AnnaOdesa, MD (@DrAnnaPirates) December 10, 2023
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Bear8084 said:This is lie. I don’t know how to community note this. Gonzo Lira is a sex trafficker. He came to my country before start of war to try to sell his “sure fire” way of getting Ukrainian women into bed. Before we could arrest his raping ass, war breakout and he join Russian https://t.co/ciN0rdvgSl
— AnnaOdesa, MD (@DrAnnaPirates) December 10, 2023
Sure. If he was guilty of all that, they wouldn't have let him out after his first arrest.
..conducted by the Ukrainian State Secret Service, SBU. He's also blamed Victoria Nuland for having "orchestrated the Euromaidan". Lira was eventually detained by the SBU after he was taking pictures around Kharkiv. He allegedly gave up five other pro-Russian collaborators..17/21 pic.twitter.com/1wUHZsYoEw
— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) April 1, 2023
...in exchange for house arrest or deportation. He eventually chose deportation, was escorted to Poland,and allegedly moved to the Netherlands.There were also some rumors that he was decapitated by the SBU, which made his fellow propagandist, iEarlGrey, very upset.
— Pekka Kallioniemi (@P_Kallioniemi) April 1, 2023
18/21 pic.twitter.com/7Gf0vg8FGx
You know what’s naive? Those who claim that Ukraine is a paragon of “democracy” in a battle of good vs. evil. Here’s the TRUTH about the Zelensky regime:
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) December 7, 2023
- Banned 11 opposition parties
- Recently assassinated a 2019 Ukrainian Presidential candidate ⁰-Consolidated all TV media… pic.twitter.com/JUqPrzxC8K
Vivek again proving he is not qualified to be a township trustee, let alone CIC. He is nothing more than a walking false talking point and an annoying one at that.Realitybites said:You know what’s naive? Those who claim that Ukraine is a paragon of “democracy” in a battle of good vs. evil. Here’s the TRUTH about the Zelensky regime:
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) December 7, 2023
- Banned 11 opposition parties
- Recently assassinated a 2019 Ukrainian Presidential candidate ⁰-Consolidated all TV media… pic.twitter.com/JUqPrzxC8K
sombear said:Vivek again proving he is not qualified to be a township trustee, let alone CIC. He is nothing more than a walking false talking point and an annoying one at that.Realitybites said:You know what’s naive? Those who claim that Ukraine is a paragon of “democracy” in a battle of good vs. evil. Here’s the TRUTH about the Zelensky regime:
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) December 7, 2023
- Banned 11 opposition parties
- Recently assassinated a 2019 Ukrainian Presidential candidate ⁰-Consolidated all TV media… pic.twitter.com/JUqPrzxC8K
He is also correct on Ukraine.
Not only is it one of the most corrupt nations on earth….its also no democracy
Neocons/Democrats: "Ukraine is winning!"
"In Ukrainian army we have up to 70% of soldiers who refuse to carry orders. Every day we have 100 deserters so we are losing a full brigade every month just because of the wide spread desertion on the frontlines."
- Alexey Arestovich (Former Zelensky Advisor, Interview 12/9/23 "Scenarios to avoid the catastrophe" @ 48:00)
Link
"In Ukrainian army we have up to 70% of soldiers who refuse to carry orders. Every day we have 100 deserters so we are losing a full brigade every month just because of the wide spread desertion on the frontlines."
- Alexey Arestovich (Former Zelensky Advisor, Interview 12/9/23 "Scenarios to avoid the catastrophe" @ 48:00)
Link
attrition is what wars of attrition are all about.Realitybites said:
Neocons/Democrats: "Ukraine is winning!"
"In Ukrainian army we have up to 70% of soldiers who refuse to carry orders. Every day we have 100 deserters so we are losing a full brigade every month just because of the wide spread desertion on the frontlines."
- Alexey Arestovich (Former Zelensky Advisor, Interview 12/9/23 "Scenarios to avoid the catastrophe" @ 48:00)
Link
Russia is losing 800-1000 soldiers PER DAY (5-6x the Ukrainian rate.)
at current rates of loss, Ukraine can sustain their losses longer than Russia can.
whiterock said:
Russia is losing 800-1000 soldiers PER DAY (5-6x the Ukrainian rate.)
at current rates of loss, Ukraine can sustain their losses longer than Russia can.
This is not the case today, nor has it been the case at any point during this war.
Realitybites said:
Neocons/Democrats: "Ukraine is winning!"
"In Ukrainian army we have up to 70% of soldiers who refuse to carry orders. Every day we have 100 deserters so we are losing a full brigade every month just because of the wide spread desertion on the frontlines."
- Alexey Arestovich (Former Zelensky Advisor, Interview 12/9/23 "Scenarios to avoid the catastrophe" @ 48:00)
Link
Washed up "advisor" that no one takes seriously.
Realitybites said:whiterock said:
Russia is losing 800-1000 soldiers PER DAY (5-6x the Ukrainian rate.)
at current rates of loss, Ukraine can sustain their losses longer than Russia can.
This is not the case today, nor has it been the case at any point during this war.
False.
We've been over these stupid talking points numerous times, but I guess some need a reminder.
The Ukraine Constitution prohibits elections during Martial Law. Its parliament could vote anytime to change that or vote any time to suspend martial law (which would be stupid). And, regardless, where do you get the $, and how do you hold an election when the invader controls a significant portion of your country? BTW 84% of Ukrainians do not want an election and similar numbers support Zelensky and the war effort.
The suspended political parties openly support Russia and are aligned with Putin. They are tiny parties, and the largest was led by a Putin crony oligarch. Leaders of these parties were accused of aiding Russia prior to the invasion. Parliament supported this. Democracy in action.
The banned church was pro-Russia orthodox with admitted close ties to Putin. Leaders aided Russia before and during the invasion. Parliament voted for this. Democracy in action. No arrest of any kind, and there are no restrictions on citizen rights to practice their religion. Only specific physical church.
The media consolidation affected pro-Russian/Russian sponsored media. No country in the world would allow invader media to continue. Parliament voted for this. Democracy in action. Heck, Russia does not allow any kind of opposition in peace time.
Assassinations of traitors/enemies are part of war. It has happened on both sides. Ukraine has been open about going after folks who are aiding the invader. Ukraine's allies have not tried to stop them.
The Kyiv mayor is a political rival who expressly stated that Zelensky should remain in power during the war.
Ukraine is corrupt, like many democracies. And Zelensky has arrested, removed, or sanctioned more corrupt individuals than any country in recent history.
The Ukraine Constitution prohibits elections during Martial Law. Its parliament could vote anytime to change that or vote any time to suspend martial law (which would be stupid). And, regardless, where do you get the $, and how do you hold an election when the invader controls a significant portion of your country? BTW 84% of Ukrainians do not want an election and similar numbers support Zelensky and the war effort.
The suspended political parties openly support Russia and are aligned with Putin. They are tiny parties, and the largest was led by a Putin crony oligarch. Leaders of these parties were accused of aiding Russia prior to the invasion. Parliament supported this. Democracy in action.
The banned church was pro-Russia orthodox with admitted close ties to Putin. Leaders aided Russia before and during the invasion. Parliament voted for this. Democracy in action. No arrest of any kind, and there are no restrictions on citizen rights to practice their religion. Only specific physical church.
The media consolidation affected pro-Russian/Russian sponsored media. No country in the world would allow invader media to continue. Parliament voted for this. Democracy in action. Heck, Russia does not allow any kind of opposition in peace time.
Assassinations of traitors/enemies are part of war. It has happened on both sides. Ukraine has been open about going after folks who are aiding the invader. Ukraine's allies have not tried to stop them.
The Kyiv mayor is a political rival who expressly stated that Zelensky should remain in power during the war.
Ukraine is corrupt, like many democracies. And Zelensky has arrested, removed, or sanctioned more corrupt individuals than any country in recent history.
you need better sources of informationRealitybites said:whiterock said:
Russia is losing 800-1000 soldiers PER DAY (5-6x the Ukrainian rate.)
at current rates of loss, Ukraine can sustain their losses longer than Russia can.
This is not the case today, nor has it been the case at any point during this war.
Realitybites said:whiterock said:
Russia is losing 800-1000 soldiers PER DAY (5-6x the Ukrainian rate.)
at current rates of loss, Ukraine can sustain their losses longer than Russia can.
This is not the case today, nor has it been the case at any point during this war.
True
But it makes some folks feel better about the tens of billions of dollars given away.
Money the US Treasury simply doesn't possess.
US intel latest estimates of at least 315k Russians killed/wounded. And we are fairly conservative with our estimates.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-putin-sky-news-blog-12541713?postid=6910575#liveblog-body
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-putin-sky-news-blog-12541713?postid=6910575#liveblog-body
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
In support of your argument. Russia has lost over 300,000 men since the war began.whiterock said:you need better sources of informationRealitybites said:whiterock said:
Russia is losing 800-1000 soldiers PER DAY (5-6x the Ukrainian rate.)
at current rates of loss, Ukraine can sustain their losses longer than Russia can.
This is not the case today, nor has it been the case at any point during this war.
Russia Has Suffered Staggeringly High Losses, U.S. Report Says
The declassified intelligence assessment also found that Russia's objective has been eroding Western support for Ukraine, the country it invaded.
The Russian push in eastern Ukraine this fall and winter was designed to sap Western support for Ukraine, according to a newly declassified American intelligence assessment.
The drive has resulted in heavy losses but has not led to strategic gains on the battlefield for Russia, said Adrienne Watson, a spokeswoman for the National Security Council.
Since the beginning of the war Russia has suffered from a staggeringly high number of losses, according to another newly declassified assessment shared with Congress. At the start of the war the Russian army stood at 360,000 troops. Russia has lost 315,000 of those troops, forcing them to recruit and mobilize new recruits and convicts from their prison system.
Moscow's equipment has also been crushed, according to the assessment. At the start of the war, Russia had 3,500 tanks but has lost 2,200, forcing them to pull 50 year old T-62 tanks from storage.
The assessment says the Russian losses have reduced the complexity of Russia's recent military operations in Ukraine.
"The war in Ukraine has sharply set back 15 years of Russian effort to modernize its ground force," the declassified assessment said. "As of late November, Russia had lost over a quarter of its pre-2022 stockpile of ground forces equipment and has suffered casualties among its trained professional army."
In the most recent push, Russia has suffered more than 13,000 people killed and wounded and lost more than 220 combat vehicles while fighting near Avdiivka and other cities, Ms. Watson said.
Russian forces had hoped for a swift breakthrough but encountered stiff Ukrainian resistance. Ukraine has moved forces from the south to reinforce its troops in the east. While Ukraine too has suffered causalities, its losses are not as significant as Russia's, U.S. officials have said. Casualty figures on both sides of the conflict are estimates, according to American officials. Moscow is believed to routinely undercount its war dead and injured, and Kyiv does not disclose official figures.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/12/us/politics/russia-intelligence-assessment.html
POTUS: "We also need Ukraine to make changes to fix the broken immigration system here…"
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 12, 2023
pic.twitter.com/DbCS7rGzsL
Osodecentx said:
Russia Has Suffered Staggeringly High Losses, U.S. Report Says
I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.
Quote:
At the start of the war the Russian army stood at 360,000 troops. Russia has lost 315,000 of those troops
Nobody believes this outside the beltway.
Realitybites said:Osodecentx said:
Russia Has Suffered Staggeringly High Losses, U.S. Report Says
I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.Quote:
At the start of the war the Russian army stood at 360,000 troops. Russia has lost 315,000 of those troops
Nobody believes this outside the beltway.
I mean, just from published officer funerals in Russia they've lost over 3200 officers. enlisted-prisoner deployed-conscripted/officer ratio is probably pretty damn accurate according to centuries of military data.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
Realitybites said:Osodecentx said:
Russia Has Suffered Staggeringly High Losses, U.S. Report Says
I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.Quote:
At the start of the war the Russian army stood at 360,000 troops. Russia has lost 315,000 of those troops
Nobody believes this outside the beltway.
You're buying Hamas numbers
BURN RATE: A declassified US intelligence report estimates that the war in Ukraine has cost Russia 315,000 dead, or almost 90% of the personnel it had at the beginning of the full-scale invasion.
— Chuck Pfarrer | Indications & Warnings | (@ChuckPfarrer) December 12, 2023
The report says that Moscow's losses in personnel and armoured vehicles inflicted… pic.twitter.com/n1wBWvLl47
Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) scoffs at calls for oversight of Ukraine funding, says we didn't hear those calls for Iraq or Afghanistan. Furthermore, says Himes, nobody asked Winston Churchill what his plan was for winning WWII -- "because he wasn't sure." So, nobody should ask Ukraine pic.twitter.com/MzMm72pvmZ
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) December 13, 2023
Realitybites said:Osodecentx said:
Russia Has Suffered Staggeringly High Losses, U.S. Report Says
I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.Quote:
At the start of the war the Russian army stood at 360,000 troops. Russia has lost 315,000 of those troops
Nobody believes this outside the beltway.
I mean we have no reason to think the U.S. intelligence community would lie to the American people…right?
US intelligence assessed that the war in Ukraine has devastated the pre-war Russian military, although Russia has partially offset these losses and continues to prepare for a long war in Ukraine. 🧵(1/5) https://t.co/8i8VTs2WrR pic.twitter.com/LAVnZIjwVI
— Institute for the Study of War (@TheStudyofWar) December 13, 2023
The IC must be using the same algorithm to invent Russian casualty numbers that the BLS is using to invent its jobs numbers.
What Would Happen If The US Stopped Suppporting Ukraine
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/what-would-happen-if-us-stopped-supporting-ukraine
(Hint: we already know, and it isn't Whiterock's geopolitical doom porn)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/what-would-happen-if-us-stopped-supporting-ukraine
(Hint: we already know, and it isn't Whiterock's geopolitical doom porn)
your article did not actually say anything to address what would happen, short or long term, to the national security position of Nato or the USA should western aid be withdrawn. Neither do you. That's because A) you don't care, and B) the reality would be highly inconvenient to your irrational position that we should not spend a nickel to influence events in Ukraine.Realitybites said:
What Would Happen If The US Stopped Suppporting Ukraine
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/what-would-happen-if-us-stopped-supporting-ukraine
(Hint: we already know, and it isn't Whiterock's geopolitical doom porn)
Hard not to keep hammering on this. But FDR not only demanded Churchill explain himself, but also explain every possible eventuality, including where the royal family would be tucked away in the Western hemisphere in an emergency. FDR also demanded and received all of the gold of… https://t.co/cf6Drfz4AL
— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) December 14, 2023
Has the corrupt fheg defeated Russia yet or have the Ukrainian oligarchs just gotten more billions from 'Murica?
FDR had a thing for confiscating the gold of others. Especially Americans. WWII saved the U.S. economy and his legacy. Meanwhile the SS albatross he started hangs heavy around our necks along with so many other New Deal era economic follies.Redbrickbear said:Hard not to keep hammering on this. But FDR not only demanded Churchill explain himself, but also explain every possible eventuality, including where the royal family would be tucked away in the Western hemisphere in an emergency. FDR also demanded and received all of the gold of… https://t.co/cf6Drfz4AL
— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) December 14, 2023
the irony here is that it's not Zelensky who cannot tell us what he needs to achieve victory. He's been quite clear about that. It's the Biden admin who has slow-walked the aid from the outset...waiting months/years to provide the systems needed, to provide the quantities needed. the F-16 is the avatar for this. Waited over a year to even allow an ally to provide surplus stocks, despite allies begging to do so from the outset. And ATACMS. Refused to provide. Then did. Then dribble them out.Redbrickbear said:Hard not to keep hammering on this. But FDR not only demanded Churchill explain himself, but also explain every possible eventuality, including where the royal family would be tucked away in the Western hemisphere in an emergency. FDR also demanded and received all of the gold of… https://t.co/cf6Drfz4AL
— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) December 14, 2023
400 ATACMS would make the entire western half of the Russian lines, to include Crimea, completely untenable. So why on earth would we not have already done that?
Even worse. All along, Biden has been saying our policy is to support Ukraine "....as long as it takes...." Typically, this week, he finally used the "V-word" = victory. nearly two years into the war, he finally said it.
I get the concerns of policy opponents about forever war. They are mucho valid. The proper way to address them is to give the Ukes what they need to win.
Has Ukraine won already ?
Millions of dead Russian troops.
The embargo reducing the Russian economy to that of Haiti.
Thousands of square miles of Russian territory occupied by Ukrainian soldiers.
Time to give another 100 billion dollars while the treasury still has enough ink left
Millions of dead Russian troops.
The embargo reducing the Russian economy to that of Haiti.
Thousands of square miles of Russian territory occupied by Ukrainian soldiers.
Time to give another 100 billion dollars while the treasury still has enough ink left
This was a sorry and embarrassing episode. Each of the people pictured lost credibility and should be ashamed.Redbrickbear said:Realitybites said:Osodecentx said:
Russia Has Suffered Staggeringly High Losses, U.S. Report Says
I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.Quote:
At the start of the war the Russian army stood at 360,000 troops. Russia has lost 315,000 of those troops
Nobody believes this outside the beltway.
I mean we have no reason to think the U.S. intelligence community would lie to the American people…right?
That said, what number of Russian soldiers do you think have been killed or wounded? Who is your source? Please cite. Is it more credible than US intel?
Ninety percent of the money expended on Ukraine goes to American companies, primarily for arms.KaiBear said:
Has Ukraine won already ?
Millions of dead Russian troops.
The embargo reducing the Russian economy to that of Haiti.
Thousands of square miles of Russian territory occupied by Ukrainian soldiers.
Time to give another 100 billion dollars while the treasury still has enough ink left