Why Are We in Ukraine?

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Realitybites
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Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.
KaiBear
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Realitybites said:

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Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.

No Obama, results in no Trump and certainly no Joe Biden.



FLBear5630
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KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

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Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.

No Obama, results in no Trump and certainly no Joe Biden.




That is a great point. We may not have gotten there. Would Obama have beaten Hillary in 2016 if Romney was successful? Would Jeb Bush have then been set up for the 2016 run?

Would have been a hell of a lot more stable.
Osodecentx
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whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

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Since he's never been able to explain why the small city of Bakhmut has any strategic significance, let's see if he can give the considerably easier explanation for why the three-street village of Avdiivka is of such "strategic importance" that it was worth the deaths of tens of thousands of Russian soldiers.

Better yet, I'd love to see him explain how Russia can sustain 47k losses per village for the next 50 miles of villages, much less all the way thru Ukraine to the Polish border.

Don't you think that the Russians have done the math on this?
They think this expenditure of losses shows resolve that will further weaken Western will to continue support, and also exploits US dithering about sending more aid = hitting Ukraine while/ they're weak.

What makes you think that they are going to push all the way to the Polish border when they've basically telegraphed that (1) they don't want to and (2) they're looking for rational negotiating partners in NATO to end this conflict?
Putin has stated that he does not want a Ukrainian state to survive.

Or maybe you've been wrong since the beginning of this conflict and Russian goals are actually to secure Dontesk and Lugansk (and maybe push to the Dniper to create a DMZ if NATO forces this upon them).
That's a minimal objective to achieve before they can agree to a cease fire. It means they launch the next attack, they will have a logistics base outside the range of Ukrainian artillery fire
If Russia wants to keep sacrificing soldiers at a rate of 5-1 or more, by all means we should let them do it. The more men and equipment they lose, the longer it will take them to rebuild and return.

A Russian Military Blogger Dies After Criticizing Army Losses
A pro-war Russian military blogger died on Wednesday, his lawyer said, after the blogger wrote the country's military pressured him to remove a post exposing the scale of its losses in a recent battle in Ukraine.
The blogger, Andrei Morozov, claimed in his post that Russia had lost 16,000 men and 300 armored vehicles in its assault on the Ukrainian city of Avdiivka, which the Russians captured last week. He deleted the post on Tuesday after what he said was a campaign of intimidation against him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/world/europe/russia-blogger-morozov-ukraine-avdiivka.html

ATL Bear
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Sam Lowry said:

Bear in mind that Putin considers the liberated oblasts to be Russian territory and its citizens Russian people. The last thing he wants to do is harm them.
Yes, Putin would never want to harm his people…
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Redbrickbear
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KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
FLBear5630
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Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

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Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Doc Holliday
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.
FLBear5630
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Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.

Doc Holliday
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FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?
FLBear5630
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Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Doc Holliday
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FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Lets get real. The left is destroying the right. It's inevitable.

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are going to vote Democrat. It's inevitable that they get full power within the next 20 years. Thats the reality of the situation. Anything we can do now to put up a permanent roadblock against them is our best and only option.

This whole idea of working together isn't even going to be a possibility in my lifetime. Do you not understand the situation we're in? Tens of millions of teenagers and young adults believe moderate, libertarian and conservative views are racist and backwards. They're being told this by academia, media, entertainment, music, their HR departments and their friends.

The future is woke/degenerate and they will celebrate it as if progress is being made in the face of absolute destruction and tyranny.
Redbrickbear
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Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Lets get real. The left is destroying the right. It's inevitable.

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are going to vote Democrat. It's inevitable that they get full power within the next 20 years…

The future is woke/degenerate and they will celebrate it...



Sure the future is liberal tyranny and basically one party state.

A USA somewhere between South Africa and California….but just think how we are gonna smash those dastardly russkies in Donbas.


A lot of the "conservatives" on this forum don't care about losing their own country but seem to really care about a war in far off Ukraine
KaiBear
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Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Lets get real. The left is destroying the right. It's inevitable.

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are going to vote Democrat. It's inevitable that they get full power within the next 20 years. Thats the reality of the situation. Anything we can do now to put up a permanent roadblock against them is our best and only option.

This whole idea of working together isn't even going to be a possibility in my lifetime. Do you not understand the situation we're in? Tens of millions of teenagers and young adults believe moderate, libertarian and conservative views are racist and backwards. They're being told this by academia, media, entertainment, music, their HR departments and their friends.

The future is woke/degenerate and they will celebrate it as if progress is being made in the face of absolute destruction and tyranny.


Unless

The oncoming Hispanic majority somehow te establishes its conservative roots and leads the country out of its woke led degeneracy.



FLBear5630
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Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Lets get real. The left is destroying the right. It's inevitable.

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are going to vote Democrat. It's inevitable that they get full power within the next 20 years. Thats the reality of the situation. Anything we can do now to put up a permanent roadblock against them is our best and only option.

This whole idea of working together isn't even going to be a possibility in my lifetime. Do you not understand the situation we're in? Tens of millions of teenagers and young adults believe moderate, libertarian and conservative views are racist and backwards. They're being told this by academia, media, entertainment, music, their HR departments and their friends.

The future is woke/degenerate and they will celebrate it as if progress is being made in the face of absolute destruction and tyranny.
Your whole argument supports not alienating and creating this dynamic of one has to be destroyed for the other to survive. We are not talking a balance between Hitler's Fascism and Lenin's Communism. We used to be able to work together even when we disagreed. Even Newt Gingrich, the father of Modern Conservatism with the Contract with America, and Bill Clinton were able to get along and work together. Reagan and Tip O'Neil. Kennedy called Eisenhower for advice on Cuba.










My point being that this tribalism does nothing but weaken America. Neither Trump or Biden help. The enemy is China, Russia, Iran... Trump seems to like Putin better than working with Schumer. Biden seems to like Xi better than working with McConnell. That is a problem. It has to stop.
Sam Lowry
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Excellent interview with American video journalist Patrick Lancaster on the liberation of Avdiivka:


Bear8084
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Patrick Lancaster is an American vlogger, podcaster and influencer.[2][3] Although described as "pro-Kremlin", Lancaster's videos covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine regularly reveal compromising Russian military information, which is used against Russia by Ukrainian forces, western intelligence agencies, and western media, leading to Lancaster being called a double agent. [4][5][6][7] Lancaster is known for regularly filming staged scenes and attempting to pass them off as real, and has been referred to as a fake master.[8][9]

Lancaster has often appeared on conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' InfoWars show.[2] In 2022, research by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD) identified him as one of the twelve key Western influencers spreading pro-Kremlin disinformation about the Russo-Ukrainian War.[19] Ukrainian media outlet Zaborona investigated his links to the Kremlin, reporting his connection to Eric Kraus, a pro-Putin French businessman who is close to Nikolai Patrushev, secretary of Russia's Security Council.[10][20]

Kremlin propaganda. And not even trying to hide it.
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Sam Lowry said:

Excellent interview with American video journalist Patrick Lancaster on the liberation of Avdiivka:





Russian shill gonna shill. Figured you'd be lapping this BS up too.
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxneb4/ukraine-patrick-lancaster-journalist
Sam Lowry
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Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took three minutes for the slime machine to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!
Bear8084
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Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Sam Lowry
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Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda.
I checked your sources. Your statement that "Lancaster is known for regularly filming staged scenes and attempting to pass them off as real" is a lie and a slander.
Bear8084
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Sam Lowry said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda.
I checked your sources. Your statement that "Lancaster is known for regularly filming staged scenes and attempting to pass them off as real" is a lie and a slander.



LOL it's not. Dude is a Kremlin shill. Like you.
Doc Holliday
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Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?
Sam Lowry
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Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?
Yes. Everyone he disagrees with is a Kremlin shill.
Bear8084
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Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?


Because it is.
Bear8084
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Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?
Yes. Everyone he disagrees with is a Kremlin shill.


Because they actually are and you and your ilk continue to prove it with actual Russian propaganda.
Sam Lowry
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Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?
Yes. Everyone he disagrees with is a Kremlin shill.


Because they actually are and you and your ilk continue to prove it with actual Russian propaganda.
You can stop telling us how fanatically devoted you are to your narrative. Believe me, we're convinced.
Redbrickbear
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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Lets get real. The left is destroying the right. It's inevitable.

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are going to vote Democrat. It's inevitable that they get full power within the next 20 years. Thats the reality of the situation. Anything we can do now to put up a permanent roadblock against them is our best and only option.

This whole idea of working together isn't even going to be a possibility in my lifetime. Do you not understand the situation we're in? Tens of millions of teenagers and young adults believe moderate, libertarian and conservative views are racist and backwards. They're being told this by academia, media, entertainment, music, their HR departments and their friends.

The future is woke/degenerate and they will celebrate it as if progress is being made in the face of absolute destruction and tyranny.


Unless

The oncoming Hispanic majority somehow te establishes its conservative roots and leads the country out of its woke led degeneracy.





The whole "based Hispanics from Latin America will save us" thing is probably over sold unfortunely.

They are just as susceptible to the Liberal media propaganda and the insanity of modern Academia around race, gender, culture as your average Westerner.

Gen. 1 Hispanic immigrants might be traditionalist Catholics or Charismatic Protestants....but by Gen. 2 or 3 the the kids have blue hair and are talking about how White colonizers are the enemy and how Christianity destroyed wonderful indigenous culture in Central and South America.

I have some hope...but no confidence

No one is coming to save Western conservatives from the Regime we are living under.
Frank Galvin
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Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Lets get real. The left is destroying the right. It's inevitable.

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are going to vote Democrat. It's inevitable that they get full power within the next 20 years. Thats the reality of the situation. Anything we can do now to put up a permanent roadblock against them is our best and only option.

This whole idea of working together isn't even going to be a possibility in my lifetime. Do you not understand the situation we're in? Tens of millions of teenagers and young adults believe moderate, libertarian and conservative views are racist and backwards. They're being told this by academia, media, entertainment, music, their HR departments and their friends.

The future is woke/degenerate and they will celebrate it as if progress is being made in the face of absolute destruction and tyranny.


Unless

The oncoming Hispanic majority somehow te establishes its conservative roots and leads the country out of its woke led degeneracy.





The whole "based Hispanics from Latin America will save us" thing is probably over sold Unfortunely.

They are just as susceptible to the Liberal media propaganda and the insanity of modern Academia around race, gender, culture as your average Westerner.

Gen. 1 Hispanic immigrants might be traditionalist Catholics or Charismatic Protestants....but by Gen. 2 or 3 the the kids have blue hair and are talking about how White colonizers are the enemy and how Christianity destroyed wonderful indigenous culture in Central and South America.

I have some hope...but no confidence

No one is coming to save Western conservatives from the Regime we are living under.
All you can do is protect your lawn.
Bear8084
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Sam Lowry said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?
Yes. Everyone he disagrees with is a Kremlin shill.


Because they actually are and you and your ilk continue to prove it with actual Russian propaganda.
You can stop telling us how fanatically devoted you are to your narrative. Believe me, we're convinced.


Super ironic coming from the biggest Kremlin simp on here.
Doc Holliday
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Bear8084 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?
Because it is.
Have you ever disagreed with US war policy or decisions?
KaiBear
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Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

Quote:

Romney would have been a far better president than Obama, Trump or Biden.

I disagree. Given Romney's history, he would have likely brought us many of the same policies - and then we would own the suck.

Bad republicans lead to worse democrats.


A Romney victory over Obama would have delayed the cultural destruction of America for at least another decade.







That is a sad commentary on the GOP

"Vote for us and our milk toast corporate loving Mormon politicians will delay the cultural-political revolution another 8 years…."

They don't want to crush the Left…they just want to slow it down a little….and cut taxes
You think the GOP and Conservatism, as you guys define it, is crushing the left? Got news for you, Left has been winning for a while and there is no end in sight. You think Trump is a conservative? Trump is for Trump. No different than the Russian Oligarchs. He is for Trump making money and having power. He is nobodies Champion but his own.
Trump lost a millions during his first term.

He's been attacked from every direction, countless lawfare and has put himself at high risk.

This up again the claim that he's in it for money or power doesn't jive.

The real problem at hand is yall believing we need the approval of the left. If you're truly not a neocon or a "moderate" then you must realize that every candidate that pushes back against the establishment will get the same treatment as Trump: I'd even bet you'd share the exact same opinion of them as you do toward Trump.

The Country only works when we have both Parties willing to work together. Not blow up the whole thing if they don't get their way. Neither Trump or Biden is willing to do that.
Working together for the sake of working together is a recipe for disaster. Much worse than not working together.

We're better off stonewalling the bat sh it crazy bs that democrats want instead of giving in for the low energy sell out bs the GOP wants.

Currently working together means passing insanely high spending bills to launder money to banks and giant corporations while pissing on the middle class. It means letting in 1.5 million illegals per year instead of 3 million: so just slowing down the destruction of our country instead of providing a real solution.

How do you see eye to eye with people that equate you to Hitler? How do you work together with people are told by media at large that your beliefs are backwards and racist?

You guys do know this is not a game, right? That people's lives get impacted by this crap. That other Nations are trying to knock us off while you Right-wingers and Left-wingers keep saying **** like that.

Of course working together and collaborating is better than not, even if we don't come up with solutions. This I win or I will destroy you is how Nations go belly up. There is a saying in City Management, if you are not growing you are dying. Guess what, it holds for Nations. Either we are getting bigger, better and stronger or we are dying. Your type of attitude has brought about dying...
Lets get real. The left is destroying the right. It's inevitable.

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are going to vote Democrat. It's inevitable that they get full power within the next 20 years. Thats the reality of the situation. Anything we can do now to put up a permanent roadblock against them is our best and only option.

This whole idea of working together isn't even going to be a possibility in my lifetime. Do you not understand the situation we're in? Tens of millions of teenagers and young adults believe moderate, libertarian and conservative views are racist and backwards. They're being told this by academia, media, entertainment, music, their HR departments and their friends.

The future is woke/degenerate and they will celebrate it as if progress is being made in the face of absolute destruction and tyranny.


Unless

The oncoming Hispanic majority somehow te establishes its conservative roots and leads the country out of its woke led degeneracy.





The whole "based Hispanics from Latin America will save us" thing is probably over sold unfortunely.

They are just as susceptible to the Liberal media propaganda and the insanity of modern Academia around race, gender, culture as your average Westerner.

Gen. 1 Hispanic immigrants might be traditionalist Catholics or Charismatic Protestants....but by Gen. 2 or 3 the the kids have blue hair and are talking about how White colonizers are the enemy and how Christianity destroyed wonderful indigenous culture in Central and South America.

I have some hope...but no confidence

No one is coming to save Western conservatives from the Regime we are living under.


Agreed


Mine is a long shot hope..
KaiBear
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Bear8084 said:

Doc Holliday said:

Bear8084 said:

Sam Lowry said:

Video is 30+ minutes, and it only took the slime machine three minutes to start churning. You are definitely earning your pay!


You simp for Russia and post obvious lies, disgusting comments, disinformation and straight-up propaganda. I wouldn't be talking about slime machines or earning pay when it's quite obvious you're shilling for Putin.

And "liberation".....LOL. Vatnik please.
Is questioning our actions in regard to Ukraine always considered pro Russian?

Is having a negative or questionable opinion of what the US is doing unacceptable?


Because it is.


So to be a loyal American one must accept and believe whatever our government tells us ?
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