The rape, murder, and communist sympathizers are having a real meltdown here.

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The rape, murder, and communist sympathizers are having a real meltdown here.

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I don't see why…at least they got their $61 billion.

To truly understand "the russian soul", look no further than the fact that a country with no roads or toilets, just sent a $10,000,000 missile to the Ukrainian city of Dnipro to destroy 10 apartments, the sleeping families in them and their pets.
pic.twitter.com/iZP2j08T3s

— Jay in Kyiv (@JayinKyiv) April 22, 2024

Realitybites said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I agree with you. America needs to lead the way and we are the shining City on the hill. If we won't step up, who will?

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We are not in a position to lead the way right now, we are trillions in debt and adding more. It is a number we can never repay. It threatens our currency and its strength. It threatens our standard of living and that of our children. Our border is open. Our medical system is on the ropes. 15% of the people residing within our borders are illegal aliens. 40% of our population and a majority of our government officials don't know or aren't willing to say what a woman is.

This is currently not a country or culture that can lead the way to anything but hell on earth.

Physician, heal thyself. We are a long way from either Camelot or the Shining City on a Hill.

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Everyone is trillions in debt, ours is just a little more publicized.

When Trump loses the back tracking by some posters here will be amusing. Because the Republicans didn't have the guts to dump Trump early on.


When Ukraine loses it will be incredibly sad. Because hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians will have died for nothing.

As this war was totally avoidable.

ron.reagan said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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ron.reagan said:

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The rape, murder, and communist sympathizers are having a real meltdown here.

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I don't see why…at least they got their $61 billion.

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Calling Ukrainians rapists, murders, and communist sympathizers for defending their country is exactly what I expect from you.

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It's as true of them as it is of anyone here. What's good for the goose, etc.

trey3216 said:

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Realitybites said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I agree with you. America needs to lead the way and we are the shining City on the hill. If we won't step up, who will?

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We are not in a position to lead the way right now, we are trillions in debt and adding more. It is a number we can never repay. It threatens our currency and its strength. It threatens our standard of living and that of our children. Our border is open. Our medical system is on the ropes. 15% of the people residing within our borders are illegal aliens. 40% of our population and a majority of our government officials don't know or aren't willing to say what a woman is.

This is currently not a country or culture that can lead the way to anything but hell on earth.

Physician, heal thyself. We are a long way from either Camelot or the Shining City on a Hill.

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Everyone is trillions in debt, ours is just a little more publicized.

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I just looked up the debt for Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, and Norway to confirm this is was wildly inaccurate.

Everyone has debt, but not trillions and not the same magnitude as America's 120%(and growing) of GDP.

The_barBEARian said:

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trey3216 said:

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Realitybites said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I agree with you. America needs to lead the way and we are the shining City on the hill. If we won't step up, who will?

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We are not in a position to lead the way right now, we are trillions in debt and adding more. It is a number we can never repay. It threatens our currency and its strength. It threatens our standard of living and that of our children. Our border is open. Our medical system is on the ropes. 15% of the people residing within our borders are illegal aliens. 40% of our population and a majority of our government officials don't know or aren't willing to say what a woman is.

This is currently not a country or culture that can lead the way to anything but hell on earth.

Physician, heal thyself. We are a long way from either Camelot or the Shining City on a Hill.

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Everyone is trillions in debt, ours is just a little more publicized.

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I just looked up the debt for Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, and Norway to confirm this is was wildly inaccurate.

Everyone has debt, but not trillions and not the same magnitude as America's 120%(and growing) of GDP.

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By all means, go live in that Buella Land of Saudi Arabia. We'll all be better off.

Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Realitybites said:

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sombear said:

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It's pretty straightforward, he believes (1) we do not have a strong enough interest in Ukraine, and (2) our $ will not help Ukraine win.

He did NOT:
* Blame the U.S. for Russia's invasion or defend Putin
* Blame NATO or Nazis.
* Lie about Russia being a Christian nation and that the invasion is at least partially about defending Christianity.
* Blame Nuland or the Donbas War.
* Criticize Zelensky or the Ukrainian people for wanting to defend their country.

Importantly, he admits that any settlement will involve Ukraine losing its sovereignty. He does not pretend Putin just wants to control the East.

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While there is a very strong fiscal case for not supporting Ukraine (or any other foreign government) given our current level of indebtedness, there is an equally strong moral case against the Zelensky regime. Those bullet points you mention are all objectively true. Pretending that this situation erupted without cause and without warning when Russian forces began their police action in Donbass and Lugansk does not lead to rational conclusions.

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You lose people with those false arguments. No doubt in my mind the public would turn strongly against Ukraine support if folks on your side stuck to the truth. Instead, they see far too many on the anti-Ukraine side as pro-Putin. And if there is one thing polls have consistently shown it's that Americans know Putin is a very bad actor.

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MBD does blame the US and Ukraine, at least in part, when he says neutrality only worked for Switzerland because Switzerland was reliable and couldn't be used as a launching pad for a hostile foreign power. The implication is that Ukraine allowed itself to be used and provoked the invasion as a result. If the American public see this as a pro-Putin argument, that is a failure of logic on their part. Looking at the facts realistically doesn't make one pro- or anti-anything.

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He uses that as an example of why Ukraine losing its sovereignty and having no real military is not that big of a deal. I obviously disagree with him but it's a reasonable point that I have not seen others make.

trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

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If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

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Great point

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Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

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You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

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While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

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There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

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The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

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If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

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Great point

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Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

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You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

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While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

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There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

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The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

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Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Realitybites said:

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sombear said:

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It's pretty straightforward, he believes (1) we do not have a strong enough interest in Ukraine, and (2) our $ will not help Ukraine win.

He did NOT:
* Blame the U.S. for Russia's invasion or defend Putin
* Blame NATO or Nazis.
* Lie about Russia being a Christian nation and that the invasion is at least partially about defending Christianity.
* Blame Nuland or the Donbas War.
* Criticize Zelensky or the Ukrainian people for wanting to defend their country.

Importantly, he admits that any settlement will involve Ukraine losing its sovereignty. He does not pretend Putin just wants to control the East.

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While there is a very strong fiscal case for not supporting Ukraine (or any other foreign government) given our current level of indebtedness, there is an equally strong moral case against the Zelensky regime. Those bullet points you mention are all objectively true. Pretending that this situation erupted without cause and without warning when Russian forces began their police action in Donbass and Lugansk does not lead to rational conclusions.

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You lose people with those false arguments. No doubt in my mind the public would turn strongly against Ukraine support if folks on your side stuck to the truth. Instead, they see far too many on the anti-Ukraine side as pro-Putin. And if there is one thing polls have consistently shown it's that Americans know Putin is a very bad actor.

---

MBD does blame the US and Ukraine, at least in part, when he says neutrality only worked for Switzerland because Switzerland was reliable and couldn't be used as a launching pad for a hostile foreign power. The implication is that Ukraine allowed itself to be used and provoked the invasion as a result. If the American public see this as a pro-Putin argument, that is a failure of logic on their part. Looking at the facts realistically doesn't make one pro- or anti-anything.

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He uses that as an example of why Ukraine losing its sovereignty and having no real military is not that big of a deal. I obviously disagree with him but it's a reasonable point that I have not seen others make.

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No. He uses it as an example of why Ukraine having no real military wouldn't be a big deal if they, and we, learned how to behave ourselves.

trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

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There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

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The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

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Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

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You must be the first non-Catholic of Italian descent in human history.

trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

---

whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

Russia is in some way the victim here. The Nations they unilaterally deemed as off limits, didn't go along so invade. Yet people think Russia is the vicitm and Ukraine is the villan. As 300k troops pour into Ukraine... Ukraine uses drones to make attacks in Russia, outrage! Amazing.

FLBear5630 said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

Russia is in some way the victim here. The Nations they unilaterally deemed as off limits, didn't go along so invade. Yet people think Russia is the vicitm and Ukraine is the villan. As 300k troops pour into Ukraine... Ukraine uses drones to make attacks in Russia, outrage! Amazing.

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We dont think Ukrainian people are the villians.

We think the globalists who run the US government, the EU, and Zelensky are all villians.

trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

---

Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

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If so then it's equally misguided to criticize any political entity for not being a defender of Christianity.

Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

---

Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

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If so then it's equally misguided to criticize any political entity for not being a defender of Christianity.

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If so, then it is lobial absentia to believe Russian Orthodoxy is a victim and at stake here. The poor poor persecuted Russian Orthodox Christians, following their despot in the fight against the anti-Christian world around them.

trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

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If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

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Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

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While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

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There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

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Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

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If so then it's equally misguided to criticize any political entity for not being a defender of Christianity.

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If so, then it is lobial absentia to believe Russian Orthodoxy is a victim and at stake here. The poor poor persecuted Russian Orthodox Christians, following their despot in the fight against the anti-Christian world around them.

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They are certainly being persecuted in Ukraine, but there's no point in arguing about that. The next time you recognize an obvious fact will be the first.

Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

---

Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

---

If so then it's equally misguided to criticize any political entity for not being a defender of Christianity.

---

If so, then it is lobial absentia to believe Russian Orthodoxy is a victim and at stake here. The poor poor persecuted Russian Orthodox Christians, following their despot in the fight against the anti-Christian world around them.

---

They are certainly being persecuted in Ukraine, but there's no point in arguing about that. The next time you recognize an obvious fact will be the first.

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

Russia is in some way the victim here. The Nations they unilaterally deemed as off limits, didn't go along so invade. Yet people think Russia is the vicitm and Ukraine is the villan. As 300k troops pour into Ukraine... Ukraine uses drones to make attacks in Russia, outrage! Amazing.

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We dont think Ukrainian people are the villians.

We think the globalists who run the US government, the EU, and Zelensky are all villians.

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And you think that if the US just pulls out, everything will just be OK. Russia, China and India are just benevolent well-doing Nations that will make sure the US is taken care of in the world? After all, we ca save a few bucks.

Or, do we join Russia, Iran, N Korea and China? Than Russia is an allie and we don't have to supply Ukraine? We can really save some money. Think about it, we can pull out of S Korea, stop supporing Israel, stop supporting Ukraine, give China the South China Sea. No more freedom of navigation - fuel savings.

That is the answer. Join Russia, China, Iran and N Korea and we will really lower expenditures.

Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

---

add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

---

Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

---

If so then it's equally misguided to criticize any political entity for not being a defender of Christianity.

---

If so, then it is lobial absentia to believe Russian Orthodoxy is a victim and at stake here. The poor poor persecuted Russian Orthodox Christians, following their despot in the fight against the anti-Christian world around them.

---

They are certainly being persecuted in Ukraine, but there's no point in arguing about that. The next time you recognize an obvious fact will be the first.

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I wonder why Russians are being persecuted in Ukraine....

The_barBEARian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

---

add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

---

Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

---

If so then it's equally misguided to criticize any political entity for not being a defender of Christianity.

---

If so, then it is lobial absentia to believe Russian Orthodoxy is a victim and at stake here. The poor poor persecuted Russian Orthodox Christians, following their despot in the fight against the anti-Christian world around them.

---

They are certainly being persecuted in Ukraine, but there's no point in arguing about that. The next time you recognize an obvious fact will be the first.

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How do you survive sleeping at night when you are too ignorant to breathe involuntarily??

sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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My dissent from NR’s praise of Mike Johnson and the aid bills. Republicans are throwing more good money after bad strategically, threw away their leverage, and ended up funding the NGOs making the border crisis worse in the end. https://t.co/usSaFFtscs

— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) April 22, 2024

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He did NOT:
* Blame the U.S. for Russia's invasion or defend Putin
* Blame NATO or Nazis.
* Lie about Russia being a Christian nation and that the invasion is at least partially about defending Christianity.
* Blame Nuland or the Donbas War.
* Criticize Zelensky or the Ukrainian people for wanting to defend their country.

Importantly, he admits that any settlement will involve Ukraine losing its sovereignty. He does not pretend Putin just wants to control the East.

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Interesting points.

But I don't think anyone has made the claims you are insinuating.

1. No one said the invasion was 100% the fault of DC...Moscow made that decision on its own and bares the primary responsibility. But it does have to be put in the context of 25 years of NATO expansion up to the borders of Russia...and we can not forget the coup in 2014 in Kyiv. A coup you still deny even took place.

2. Brining up the fact that there are neo-Nazi units fighting openly for Ukraine is just to point out the hypocrisy of liberal Western Media. We are still be subjected to endless stories about how there were Nazis in Charlottesville or how America is a White supremacist nation. All while the same NPR liberal media outlets ignore actual neo-Nazis with high powered weapons fighting a war.

Its the hypocrisy, more the the minor presence of Neo-Nazis, that is galling

3. The Russian population if of course majority Christian...but I don't think anyone ever said the current Moscow Oligarchy is some great defender of Christianity or particularly moral and decent. And Russian society has lots of problems (drugs, alcohol, abortion) but at least its rulers don't make it worse by pushing aggressive liberal secularism.

To the extent that Moscow has embraced Orthodoxy its an obvious attempt to give the ruling regime a basis for legitimacy....russian nationalism and historic religious Orthodoxy.

I again don't think anyone really believes that Putin is a religious person at all

4. We can go round and round about Nuland and her involvement in the conflict....but you don't want to acknowledge that at all or even deal with the issue. You want to ignore the role of the CIA and the State Department in being agents of "change" in that region.

5. No one criticizes the Ukrainian people for wanting to defend their country...but plenty of people criticize Zelensky for being a clown, not looking rationally at the issues facing his country, and the mythos around him in the Western media is strange to say the least.

FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

---

add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

Russia is in some way the victim here. The Nations they unilaterally deemed as off limits, didn't go along so invade. Yet people think Russia is the vicitm and Ukraine is the villan. As 300k troops pour into Ukraine... Ukraine uses drones to make attacks in Russia, outrage! Amazing.

---

We dont think Ukrainian people are the villians.

We think the globalists who run the US government, the EU, and Zelensky are all villians.

---

And you think that if the US just pulls out, everything will just be OK. Russia, China and India are just benevolent well-doing Nations that will make sure the US is taken care of in the world? After all, we ca save a few bucks.

---

It's funny, Reuters had an article a couple of months ago about India beating expectations and experiencing rapid economic growth. I figured it was only a matter of time till they joined the axis of evil, but that was quick!

Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

---

add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

Russia is in some way the victim here. The Nations they unilaterally deemed as off limits, didn't go along so invade. Yet people think Russia is the vicitm and Ukraine is the villan. As 300k troops pour into Ukraine... Ukraine uses drones to make attacks in Russia, outrage! Amazing.

---

We dont think Ukrainian people are the villians.

We think the globalists who run the US government, the EU, and Zelensky are all villians.

---

And you think that if the US just pulls out, everything will just be OK. Russia, China and India are just benevolent well-doing Nations that will make sure the US is taken care of in the world? After all, we ca save a few bucks.

---

It's funny, Reuters had an article a couple of months ago about India beating expectations and experiencing rapid economic growth. I figured it was only a matter of time till they joined the axis of evil, but that was quick!

---

Modi is a Hindu nationalist.

The very utterance of nationalism results in a lot of wet diapers around here.

Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

---

Doc Holliday said:

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

---

add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

---

If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

---

Great point

---

Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

---

You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

---

While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

---

There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

---

The GOP is no bastion of Christian ideals, but it is often a defender of Christianity. Two things can be true at once.

---

Considering any political entity a defender of Christianity in any form is as misguided as it is idiotic.

---

If so then it's equally misguided to criticize any political entity for not being a defender of Christianity.

---

If so, then it is lobial absentia to believe Russian Orthodoxy is a victim and at stake here. The poor poor persecuted Russian Orthodox Christians, following their despot in the fight against the anti-Christian world around them.

---

They are certainly being persecuted in Ukraine, but there's no point in arguing about that. The next time you recognize an obvious fact will be the first.

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Hilarious from someone who shills Russian BS all the time on here.

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India and the Soviet Union signed a treaty of peace, friendship, and cooperation in August 1971. Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, it was replaced by the Treaty of Indo-Russian Friendship and Cooperation in January 1993.

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That is horrifying. How soon can we get somebody else's boots on the ground?

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My dissent from NR’s praise of Mike Johnson and the aid bills. Republicans are throwing more good money after bad strategically, threw away their leverage, and ended up funding the NGOs making the border crisis worse in the end. https://t.co/usSaFFtscs

— Michael Brendan Dougherty (@michaelbd) April 22, 2024

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He did NOT:
* Blame the U.S. for Russia's invasion or defend Putin
* Blame NATO or Nazis.
* Lie about Russia being a Christian nation and that the invasion is at least partially about defending Christianity.
* Blame Nuland or the Donbas War.
* Criticize Zelensky or the Ukrainian people for wanting to defend their country.

Importantly, he admits that any settlement will involve Ukraine losing its sovereignty. He does not pretend Putin just wants to control the East.

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Interesting points.

But I don't think anyone has made the claims you are insinuating.

1. No one said the invasion was 100% the fault of DC...Moscow made that decision on its own and bares the primary responsibility. But it does have to be put in the context of 25 years of NATO expansion up to the borders of Russia...and we can not forget the coup in 2014 in Kyiv. A coup you still deny even took place.

2. Brining up the fact that there are neo-Nazi units fighting openly for Ukraine is just to point out the hypocrisy of liberal Western Media. We are still be subjected to endless stories about how there were Nazis in Charlottesville or how America is a White supremacist nation. All while the same NPR liberal media outlets ignore actual neo-Nazis with high powered weapons fighting a war.

Its the hypocrisy, more the the minor presence of Neo-Nazis, that is galling

3. The Russian population if of course majority Christian...but I don't think anyone ever said the current Moscow Oligarchy is some great defender of Christianity or particularly moral and decent. And Russian society has lots of problems (drugs, alcohol, abortion) but at least its rulers don't make it worse by pushing aggressive liberal secularism.

To the extent that Moscow has embraced Orthodoxy its an obvious attempt to give the ruling regime a basis for legitimacy....russian nationalism and historic religious Orthodoxy.

I again don't think anyone really believes that Putin is a religious person at all

4. We can go round and round about Nuland and her involvement in the conflict....but you don't want to acknowledge that at all or even deal with the issue. You want to ignore the role of the CIA and the State Department in being agents of "change" in that region.

5. No one criticizes the Ukrainian people for wanting to defend their country...but plenty of people criticize Zelensky for being a clown, not looking rationally at the issues facing his country, and the mythos around him in the Western media is strange to say the least.

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Fair response. And this isn't directed at you, but I think you're downplaying how many folks have made the arguments you say few if any are making. I mean, heck, we've had major influencers state emphatically that Ukraine actually declared war against Russia in 2014.

As for the coup, we agree on many of the underlying facts. I just think our involvement and influence has been far exaggerated. But mostly, a sovereign nation's revolt against its own gov does not justify another country's invasion. Russia lost its influence battle, and responded by attacking and invading.

And I don't evaluate a leader based on what others left or right say about them. I probably disagree with Zelensky on a host of issues. But he has bravely stood up for his people and country. I admire him for that.

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You can have your wars…but this BS has got to stop:

Waltz: How much do you think the Air Force pays for this bag of bushings?

Sec. Kendall: I don't know.

Waltz: $90,000.

pic.twitter.com/9WwmkP3MVr

— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) April 17, 2024

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add this to the stories of four-digit hammers and five-digit toilet seats...... It's what happens when you place cost controls on the big-ticket parts of the program. It causes allocation of expenses into the margins.

If this was a case of garden-variety bilking, we would not be seeing steady trends of consolidation in our defense industrial base.

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If global hegemony domination means we turn into a quasi socialist country made of wage slaves forking over financial freedom…then what is the point of global hegemony?

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Thanks

I kind of see it like selling our soul. We're willing to drop trillions on Ukraine and any other war/s in order to supposedly dominate Russia or other countries that pose a threat to western dominance and in process of doing so we print trillions further devaluing the dollar by creating insane inflation.

We "succeed" in war efforts at the cost of destroying our middle class, in effect it's like we're becoming that which we're fighting against.

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You guys are distracted. In 2022 we spent $4.5 Trillion on medical services of which 90% was paid for by private insurance (highly subsidized/regulated industry) or the preponderance by Medicare and Medicaid. A number that rises at a 4-8% clip annually regardless of inflation. Check it out. How much of your income goes toward Ukraine versus the healthcare costs of others from your private insurance to your Medicare tax to your income tax that gets allocated to Medicaid? If there's a "MIC" you're a wage slave to it's the Medical/Healthcare Industrial Complex.

That is if we want to have an honest conversation about fiscal concerns.

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While I agree in principle, at least Medicare has a direct benefit on actual Americans.

Foreign aid has a negligible benefit to Americans and is the most obvious and insulting waste of tax dollars.

Especially in the case of Ukraine, where supporting them turns a Christian Orthodox Russia into an unnecessary enemy.

Putin already said multiple times he is ready to take a peace deal. Was Hitler offering peace deals after he annexed Austria?

It is you psychopaths who support Biden who are perpetrating this war but ofc you are too cowardly and pathetic to actually go fight it yourselves.

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There you go again thinking Russia is this bastion of Christian ideals and defender of Christianity. Absolutely insane.

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Russia is in some way the victim here. The Nations they unilaterally deemed as off limits, didn't go along so invade. Yet people think Russia is the vicitm and Ukraine is the villan. As 300k troops pour into Ukraine... Ukraine uses drones to make attacks in Russia, outrage! Amazing.

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We dont think Ukrainian people are the villians.

We think the globalists who run the US government, the EU, and Zelensky are all villians.

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And you think that if the US just pulls out, everything will just be OK. Russia, China and India are just benevolent well-doing Nations that will make sure the US is taken care of in the world? After all, we ca save a few bucks.

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It's funny, Reuters had an article a couple of months ago about India beating expectations and experiencing rapid economic growth. I figured it was only a matter of time till they joined the axis of evil, but that was quick!

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Who has supplied India most of their arms?

Quick?? India has been an allie of Russia since the 50's. To think India is like Japan or S Korea and a steadfast US allie is a misconception because they are more capialistic and we share a better relationship. Ask if India can be trusted to support US interests? They are still part of the 1950's Red club, look at BRICS.

What to know about India's ties with Russia | AP News

https://www.reuters.com/world/what-is-brics-who-are-its-members-2023-08-21/

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Are we supposed to overthrow the government in New Deli now?

I mean it would make sense that there is so much hysteria in the Media about Narendra Modi and his BJP party being "dangerous illiberal Hindu nationalists"

https://time.com/6969774/india-narendra-modi-muslim-hate-speech/

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/opinion/narendra-modi-india-democracy.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/08/narendra-modi-india-gurugram/675171/

One might almost think a color revolution was in the works....

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Sudden collapse of Ukrainian defenses is becoming evident to the northwest of Avdiivka, with Russia capturing Novobakhmutivka in a single assault and quickly taking much of Ocheretyne. This is about a 7-kilometer advance onto high ground, putting the Russians in position to both flank and overlook the Ukrainian front line. 5-7 Ukrainian brigades are supposedly active in the surrounding area, as it was considered a critical position, but apparently they have yet to be heard from.

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"President Zelensky, you told us there were 5-7 brigades ready to fight"

"Psssstttt... What?.... Psssstttt... I sorry. PSSSSTTTT....connection very bad. Call back later after $60 billion received, ok?"

*As Zelensky puts down his cell phone he crosses his arms behind his head and lounges in a bath robe and sunglasses on the deck of his mega-yacht in the Carribean off the coast of Monaco. He takes a sip of his mimosa and and flippantly utters "Thank you America"

"Sudden collapse". More of Sam's vatnik lies.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-22-2024

"Russian forces appear to be aiming to make a wide penetration of Ukrainian lines northwest of Avdiivka, Donetsk Oblast, but their ability to do so will likely be blunted by the arrival of US and other Western aid to the frontline."

"Russian forces are similarly intensifying the rate of tactical-level gains elsewhere in the theater, namely in the Lyman direction and west and southwest of Donetsk City, to consolidate gains as rapidly as possible. The Russian military command is likely aware of the closing window before more Western aid arrives and is trying to secure offensive gains before the window closes. Russian forces are likely to continue to make tactical gains along the Berdychi-Novokalynove line and elsewhere in theater in the coming weeks as they intensify offensive operations in anticipation of the arrival of Western aid. However, the currently closing window of low Ukrainian resources will likely inhibit Russian forces from being able to translate tactical advances into operationally significant gains for the most part, though some are possible; and Ukraine's receipt of Western aid will likely position Ukrainian forces to receive the upcoming offensives for which Russian forces are preparing.[17]"