BREAKING:

For the first time, Ukrainian drones are striking Domodedovo International Airport in Moscow.

It’s the second-largest airport in Moscow after Sheremetyevo Airport.pic.twitter.com/3bLayJsykz

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

Interesting development.

Putin will immediately jump to the conclusion ( right or wrong )
that only with US approval was this Ukrainian drone strike on Moscow conducted.

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Interesting development.

Putin will immediately jump to the conclusion ( right or wrong )
that only with US approval was this Ukrainian drone strike on Moscow conducted.

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perhaps we could give him a jump to conclusions mat…

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[Yesterday Politico dropped a story about how "former GOP officials are sounding the alarm over Trump's Orban embrace." Gosh, where would we be without Former GOP Officials, eh? The story attempts to demonize anyone who has anything to do with the Hungarian prime minister. Excerpt:

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The Conservative Partnership Institute, a nerve center for incubating policies for a second Trump administration, co-sponsored a discussion in October 2022 about how to bring "peace in Ukraine" featuring Hungarian Minister of Foreign Affairs Peter Szijjarto.
Audience members included conservative policy and national security officials and GOP strategists, according to a person familiar with the meeting. Once seated, they were given pamphlets pushing unabashedly pro-Russia talking points.
"Russia has the will, strength, and patience to continue war," warned the document, which was given to POLITICO by a participant. "U.S aid to Ukraine must be severely constricted and Ukrainian President Zelensky should be encouraged by U.S. leadership to seek armistice and concede Ukraine as a neutral country."
"If the U.S. continues to enable war, it will result in the destruction of Ukraine and provoke further Russian aggression toward the West, with the potential for nuclear conflict," it said.

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You see what Politico is doing here? We are not supposed to evaluate these claims; we are supposed to reject them out of hand as "pro-Russian talking points."

This is the same kind of manipulation the Blob used to manufacture consent of the American people to support the Iraq War. What, you think Arabs don't deserve democracy? You want Iraq to create a mushroom cloud over an American city? You want the terrorists to win?!

The Orban government might be wrong in its analysis of the Ukraine war, but characterizing it as nothing more than "pro-Russian talking points" does a profound disservice to democratic publics in the US and Europe, who are financing NATO's participation in this war. If Orban's government is wrong, then explain how they're wrong. Don't talk to people like we're morons.]

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Neutral isn't really an option (thanks to Russia).

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LMAO…if anyone was wondering why the US has no credibility any more, just take a look at the above.

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so Russia invaded Ukraine to make it neutral.

LOL

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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whiterock said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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[Yesterday Politico dropped a story about how "former GOP officials are sounding the alarm over Trump's Orban embrace." Gosh, where would we be without Former GOP Officials, eh? The story attempts to demonize anyone who has anything to do with the Hungarian prime minister. Excerpt:

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The Conservative Partnership Institute, a nerve center for incubating policies for a second Trump administration, co-sponsored a discussion in October 2022 about how to bring "peace in Ukraine" featuring Hungarian Minister of Foreign Affairs Peter Szijjarto.
Audience members included conservative policy and national security officials and GOP strategists, according to a person familiar with the meeting. Once seated, they were given pamphlets pushing unabashedly pro-Russia talking points.
"Russia has the will, strength, and patience to continue war," warned the document, which was given to POLITICO by a participant. "U.S aid to Ukraine must be severely constricted and Ukrainian President Zelensky should be encouraged by U.S. leadership to seek armistice and concede Ukraine as a neutral country."
"If the U.S. continues to enable war, it will result in the destruction of Ukraine and provoke further Russian aggression toward the West, with the potential for nuclear conflict," it said.

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You see what Politico is doing here? We are not supposed to evaluate these claims; we are supposed to reject them out of hand as "pro-Russian talking points."

This is the same kind of manipulation the Blob used to manufacture consent of the American people to support the Iraq War. What, you think Arabs don't deserve democracy? You want Iraq to create a mushroom cloud over an American city? You want the terrorists to win?!

The Orban government might be wrong in its analysis of the Ukraine war, but characterizing it as nothing more than "pro-Russian talking points" does a profound disservice to democratic publics in the US and Europe, who are financing NATO's participation in this war. If Orban's government is wrong, then explain how they're wrong. Don't talk to people like we're morons.]

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Neutral isn't really an option (thanks to Russia).

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LMAO…if anyone was wondering why the US has no credibility any more, just take a look at the above.

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so Russia invaded Ukraine to make it neutral.

LOL

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Russia: Ukraine should stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should join NATO.
Russia: Ukraine should really stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should definitely join NATO.
Russia: Seriously, Ukraine needs to stay neutral.
America: Ukraine is 100% joining NATO and there's nothing you can do about it.
Russia: Okay, we're taking Ukraine.
America: B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT NEUTRALITY???

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Russia: Ukraine should stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should join NATO.
Russia: Ukraine should really stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should definitely join NATO.
Russia: Seriously, Ukraine needs to stay neutral.
America: Ukraine is 100% joining NATO and there's nothing you can do about it.
Russia: Okay, we're taking Ukraine.
America: B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT NEUTRALITY???

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Sadly, this is about as good a summary of the sort of flawed diplomacy that Harris, Nuland, and company brought to the table as you'll find. It was a good thing that both JFK and Kruschev were wiser.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Russia: Ukraine should stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should join NATO.
Russia: Ukraine should really stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should definitely join NATO.
Russia: Seriously, Ukraine needs to stay neutral.
America: Ukraine is 100% joining NATO and there's nothing you can do about it.
Russia: Okay, we're taking Ukraine.
America: B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT NEUTRALITY???

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Sadly, this is about as good a summary of the sort of flawed diplomacy that Harris, Nuland, and company brought to the table as you'll find. It was a good thing that both JFK and Kruschev were wiser.

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It's hilariously not, but good to be copied and pasted from RT I suppose.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Russia: Ukraine should stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should join NATO.
Russia: Ukraine should really stay neutral.
America: Ukraine should definitely join NATO.
Russia: Seriously, Ukraine needs to stay neutral.
America: Ukraine is 100% joining NATO and there's nothing you can do about it.
Russia: Okay, we're taking Ukraine.
America: B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT NEUTRALITY???

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Sadly, this is about as good a summary of the sort of flawed diplomacy that Harris, Nuland, and company brought to the table as you'll find. It was a good thing that both JFK and Kruschev were wiser.

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Especially Kruschev and he paid a big price for it.

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It's hilariously not, but good to be copied and pasted from RT I suppose.

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"Vatnik." "Shill."

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Bear8084 said:

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It's hilariously not, but good to be copied and pasted from RT I suppose.

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"Vatnik." "Shill."

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Good to know you're self aware, shill.

[Pro-Ukraine aid lawmakers have learned their lesson. As the allotment for new weapons in the $61 billion Ukraine aid package is set to drain out by January, machinations are in play to get more to Kyiv without the kind of political debate that overtook Congress this year.

One might be wondering how Ukraine blew through almost $61 billion from April. But the whole idea that Washington was giving the Zelensky government that much was wrong to begin with...

Senators Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) have floated the idea of codifying the bilateral security agreement reached by the Biden Administration and Zelensky's government this past June, which, if passed by Congress, would require enormous sums of annual expenditures to provide, according to the White House announcement, "provision of defense articles and services, combined military maneuvers and exercises, increased defense industrial cooperation consistent with applicable agreements and arrangements between the Parties," among a litany of other cooperative activities and arrangements....]

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/as-the-money-dries-up-lawmakers-eye-even-more-aid-for-ukraine/?utm_source=The+American+Conservative&utm_campaign=cfe43ee659-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-f78efd3b53-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=cfe43ee659&mc_eid=783db60a2b

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

It's heating up

BREAKING:

Ukraine to receive permission for long-range ATACMS strikes against Russia.

House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul has said that U.S. Secretary of State is travelling to Kyiv to tell Zelensky that Ukraine will receive permission to start striking deep into… pic.twitter.com/ybBDRhUUb7

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

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LMAO. No.

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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When has Russia stuck to military targets? Putin only understands one thing, Ukraine is willing to get as nasty as Putin. Putin understands that.

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I don't think either side has really systematically targeted civilians.

If Ukraine wanted they could have artillery shelled Luhansk into rubble.

And Putin could have unleashed his bombers on Kyiv and Lviv

Both sides have certainly killed civilians (shooting rockets, mortars, artillery, drones) but I don't get the feeling that is intentionally the goal of either military command.

FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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When has Russia stuck to military targets? Putin only understands one thing, Ukraine is willing to get as nasty as Putin. Putin understands that.

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Ukraine is playing its biggest card. If they continue to prove that the homeland isn't safe anymore, civil unrest will become rampant in Russia. Ukraine has proven that Russia's attacks on civilian targets has only hardened ukrainian resolve….

The war is already becoming rampantly unpopular in Russia, and Ukraine taking Russian land and hitting targets in Russia is starting to turn the wheel of disgust amongst its citizens.

Russia is going to have to start re-deploying defense assets from the frontline war effort to territorial defense if it keeps happening. Seems the tides aren't always in.

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

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I don't recall you posting when Putin bombed hospitals, schools, malls, and apartment buildings far away from battle areas.

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I haven't seen proof that Russia targets civilians. We know Ukraine does, with this airport attack being the latest example.

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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When has Russia stuck to military targets? Putin only understands one thing, Ukraine is willing to get as nasty as Putin. Putin understands that.

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Ukraine is playing its biggest card. If they continue to prove that the homeland isn't safe anymore, civil unrest will become rampant in Russia. Ukraine has proven that Russia's attacks on civilian targets has only hardened ukrainian resolve….

The war is already becoming rampantly unpopular in Russia, and Ukraine taking Russian land and hitting targets in Russia is starting to turn the wheel of disgust amongst its citizens.

Russia is going to have to start re-deploying defense assets from the frontline war effort to territorial defense if it keeps happening. Seems the tides aren't always in.

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"Proving the homeland isn't safe" is another way of saying the Ukes are committing acts of terrorism. It isn't working, though.

Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

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I don't recall you posting when Putin bombed hospitals, schools, malls, and apartment buildings far away from battle areas.

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I haven't seen proof that Russia targets civilians. We know Ukraine does, with this airport attack being the latest example.

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There are thousands of dead Ukrainian civilians, resulting from Russian missiles, drones and airstrikes.

Really think they are all accidental ?

trey3216 said:

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trey3216 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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When has Russia stuck to military targets? Putin only understands one thing, Ukraine is willing to get as nasty as Putin. Putin understands that.

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Ukraine is playing its biggest card. If they continue to prove that the homeland isn't safe anymore, civil unrest will become rampant in Russia. Ukraine has proven that Russia's attacks on civilian targets has only hardened ukrainian resolve….

The war is already becoming rampantly unpopular in Russia, and Ukraine taking Russian land and hitting targets in Russia is starting to turn the wheel of disgust amongst its citizens.

Russia is going to have to start re-deploying defense assets from the frontline war effort to territorial defense if it keeps happening. Seems the tides aren't always in.

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"Proving the homeland isn't safe" is another way of saying the Ukes are committing acts of terrorism. It isn't working, though.

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Ukraine isn't committing acts of terrorism. Hell, they've actually been feeding displaced Russians unlike the Russians in Ukraine who steal toilets, washing machines and everything else in people's houses after they rape children in front of their parents. I have completely lost it.

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FIFY

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Sam Lowry said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

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I don't recall you posting when Putin bombed hospitals, schools, malls, and apartment buildings far away from battle areas.

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I haven't seen proof that Russia targets civilians. We know Ukraine does, with this airport attack being the latest example.

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There are thousands of dead Ukrainian civilians, resulting from Russian missiles, drones and airstrikes.

Really think they are all accidental ?

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When you consider that most of the fighting is in areas that support Russia, it doesn't make much sense for them to target their own people. It's easier to understand why Kiev rains down rockets on civilians in Donetsk for months at a time. They hate Russian speakers and want to punish them.

Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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sombear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

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I don't recall you posting when Putin bombed hospitals, schools, malls, and apartment buildings far away from battle areas.

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I haven't seen proof that Russia targets civilians. We know Ukraine does, with this airport attack being the latest example.

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There are thousands of dead Ukrainian civilians, resulting from Russian missiles, drones and airstrikes.

Really think they are all accidental ?

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When you consider that most of the fighting is in areas that support Russia, it doesn't make much sense for them to target their own people. It's easier to understand why Kyiv rains down rockets on civilians in Donetsk for months at a time. They hate Russian speakers and want to punish them.

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Russian BS through and through.

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

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I don't recall you posting when Putin bombed hospitals, schools, malls, and apartment buildings far away from battle areas.

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I haven't seen proof that Russia targets civilians. We know Ukraine does, with this airport attack being the latest example.

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Not surprising given you get your info from Russian state media. There are videos and pictures posted at least weekly of schools, hospitals, malls, and apartment complexes being bombed nowhere near battlefields, including in Kyiv. Russia has been doing this since the beginning of the war.

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Oh, I've seen the accusations. Just not the evidence. Russia is targeting plenty of dual-use infrastructure around the country. In many instances Ukraine can't even claim that much.

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Sam Lowry said:

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trey3216 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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When has Russia stuck to military targets? Putin only understands one thing, Ukraine is willing to get as nasty as Putin. Putin understands that.

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Ukraine is playing its biggest card. If they continue to prove that the homeland isn't safe anymore, civil unrest will become rampant in Russia. Ukraine has proven that Russia's attacks on civilian targets has only hardened ukrainian resolve….

The war is already becoming rampantly unpopular in Russia, and Ukraine taking Russian land and hitting targets in Russia is starting to turn the wheel of disgust amongst its citizens.

Russia is going to have to start re-deploying defense assets from the frontline war effort to territorial defense if it keeps happening. Seems the tides aren't always in.

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"Proving the homeland isn't safe" is another way of saying the Ukes are committing acts of terrorism. It isn't working, though.

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Ukraine isn't committing acts of terrorism. Hell, they've actually been feeding displaced Russians unlike the Russians in Ukraine who steal toilets, washing machines and everything else in people's houses after they rape children in front of their parents. I have completely lost it.

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FIFY

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First time you changed a tune to something that is clearly obvious

Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING:

All flights in and out of Moscow have been cancelled as a Ukrainian drone swarm is striking Russia’s capital city pic.twitter.com/vShOgLfwjD

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) September 10, 2024

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When all else fails, attack civilian targets. Ukranazis doing what they do best.

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Whoa….that's a reach.

What do you think Russia has been doing since day one of their invasion ?

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Fighting a war, stopping Zelensky from terrorizing any more civilians in the Donbas.

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I don't recall you posting when Putin bombed hospitals, schools, malls, and apartment buildings far away from battle areas.

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I haven't seen proof that Russia targets civilians. We know Ukraine does, with this airport attack being the latest example.

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There are thousands of dead Ukrainian civilians, resulting from Russian missiles, drones and airstrikes.

Really think they are all accidental ?

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When you consider that most of the fighting is in areas that support Russia, it doesn't make much sense for them to target their own people. It's easier to understand why Kiev rains down rockets on civilians in Donetsk for months at a time. They hate Russian speakers and want to punish them.

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Kiev has been raining down rockets and artillery on Russian military who have been in Donbas since before 2014. They may disagree with their Russian speaking citizens, but they're not killing them for it. You have no basis in reality with anything you type.