trey3216 said:Doc Holliday said:Bookmark this. Keep this. Remember this. Watch it often. Memorize it. Learn it. Understand it. Grasp it. Believe it. And never forget it. Ever. pic.twitter.com/U25wYjTBTL
— 🇺🇸Lionel🇺🇸 (@LionelMedia) November 18, 2024
Jesus, you folks kill me. Analyzing immediate post Berlin Wall backdrops against a power that can't give up the hope of it still being there and the neighboring countries wanting no part of that is not a fool's errand, its textbook. Y'all act like **** doesn't change. These people lived under Soviet Rule, and they didn't want to live under russian influence. It's absurd to blame them for wanting to move westward. Y'all are literal blaming the rape victim for not wanting to be chained to the bed any longer.
This is Russia's perspective. I didn't say that's it right or wrong.trey3216 said:Doc Holliday said:Bookmark this. Keep this. Remember this. Watch it often. Memorize it. Learn it. Understand it. Grasp it. Believe it. And never forget it. Ever. pic.twitter.com/U25wYjTBTL
— 🇺🇸Lionel🇺🇸 (@LionelMedia) November 18, 2024
Jesus, you folks kill me. Analyzing immediate post Berlin Wall backdrops against a power that can't give up the hope of it still being there and the neighboring countries wanting no part of that is not a fool's errand, its textbook. Y'all act like **** doesn't change. These people lived under Soviet Rule, and they didn't want to live under russian influence. It's absurd to blame them for wanting to move westward. Y'all are literal blaming the rape victim for not wanting to be chained to the bed any longer.
WowThe_barBEARian said:trey3216 said:Doc Holliday said:Bookmark this. Keep this. Remember this. Watch it often. Memorize it. Learn it. Understand it. Grasp it. Believe it. And never forget it. Ever. pic.twitter.com/U25wYjTBTL
— 🇺🇸Lionel🇺🇸 (@LionelMedia) November 18, 2024
Jesus, you folks kill me. Analyzing immediate post Berlin Wall backdrops against a power that can't give up the hope of it still being there and the neighboring countries wanting no part of that is not a fool's errand, its textbook. Y'all act like **** doesn't change. These people lived under Soviet Rule, and they didn't want to live under russian influence. It's absurd to blame them for wanting to move westward. Y'all are literal blaming the rape victim for not wanting to be chained to the bed any longer.
You are lucky Putin is the adult in the room.
If any other influential political figure in Russia was in charge they would have already gone nuclear and I certainly wouldnt blame them after this latest stunt. The people provoking them are the same people provoking me and the 1/3 of Americans who have deep roots and whose families have given the most for this country.
Anthony Blinken isnt just a puppet of the Zionists. He is one of them. We have a Mossad double agent as our Secretary of State who will be running our government for the next 60 days and he wants to punish Russia for sending weapons to Iran, Syria, and Lebanon. He is defending another Mossad double agent, Zelensky, who is the figurehead of the largest money laundering scheme in human history, transferring enormous amounts of wealth away from Americans and into Zionist pockets.
I've seen hundreds of photos and videos from people living in Ukraine and you would never know there was supposedly some war going on in their country. This is in stark contrast to Gaza where no building remains standing. This war has been very fake and gay for two years... but as their power is about to weaken slightly when Trump takes over, the Zionists have decided to turn a fake war into a real one out of malice and spite over aforementioned weapons transfers to their regional enemies.
I believe Putin is too intelligent to take the bait and will hunker down and tolerate these provocations bcs he knows in 60 days the Zionist Blinken is out and the new administration will negotiate with him bcs it's in the best interests of American AND Ukrainians.
The only people who want this war to continue are the Zionists and their mentally ill/******ed useful idiots.
Realitybites said:trey3216 said:Doc Holliday said:Bookmark this. Keep this. Remember this. Watch it often. Memorize it. Learn it. Understand it. Grasp it. Believe it. And never forget it. Ever. pic.twitter.com/U25wYjTBTL
— 🇺🇸Lionel🇺🇸 (@LionelMedia) November 18, 2024
Jesus, you folks kill me. Analyzing immediate post Berlin Wall backdrops against a power that can't give up the hope of it still being there and the neighboring countries wanting no part of that is not a fool's errand, its textbook. Y'all act like **** doesn't change. These people lived under Soviet Rule, and they didn't want to live under russian influence. It's absurd to blame them for wanting to move westward. Y'all are literal blaming the rape victim for not wanting to be chained to the bed any longer.
The Berlin wall is ancient history at this point. The Deep State threw away that peace dividend. Wake up.
trey3216 said:WowThe_barBEARian said:trey3216 said:Doc Holliday said:Bookmark this. Keep this. Remember this. Watch it often. Memorize it. Learn it. Understand it. Grasp it. Believe it. And never forget it. Ever. pic.twitter.com/U25wYjTBTL
— 🇺🇸Lionel🇺🇸 (@LionelMedia) November 18, 2024
Jesus, you folks kill me. Analyzing immediate post Berlin Wall backdrops against a power that can't give up the hope of it still being there and the neighboring countries wanting no part of that is not a fool's errand, its textbook. Y'all act like **** doesn't change. These people lived under Soviet Rule, and they didn't want to live under russian influence. It's absurd to blame them for wanting to move westward. Y'all are literal blaming the rape victim for not wanting to be chained to the bed any longer.
You are lucky Putin is the adult in the room.
If any other influential political figure in Russia was in charge they would have already gone nuclear and I certainly wouldnt blame them after this latest stunt. The people provoking them are the same people provoking me and the 1/3 of Americans who have deep roots and whose families have given the most for this country.
Anthony Blinken isnt just a puppet of the Zionists. He is one of them. We have a Mossad double agent as our Secretary of State who will be running our government for the next 60 days and he wants to punish Russia for sending weapons to Iran, Syria, and Lebanon. He is defending another Mossad double agent, Zelensky, who is the figurehead of the largest money laundering scheme in human history, transferring enormous amounts of wealth away from Americans and into Zionist pockets.
I've seen hundreds of photos and videos from people living in Ukraine and you would never know there was supposedly some war going on in their country. This is in stark contrast to Gaza where no building remains standing. This war has been very fake and gay for two years... but as their power is about to weaken slightly when Trump takes over, the Zionists have decided to turn a fake war into a real one out of malice and spite over aforementioned weapons transfers to their regional enemies.
I believe Putin is too intelligent to take the bait and will hunker down and tolerate these provocations bcs he knows in 60 days the Zionist Blinken is out and the new administration will negotiate with him bcs it's in the best interests of American AND Ukrainians.
The only people who want this war to continue are the Zionists and their mentally ill/******ed useful idiots.
You assume so many things about me, yet you know not a damn thing. Such an idiotic waste of oxygen.The_barBEARian said:trey3216 said:WowThe_barBEARian said:trey3216 said:Doc Holliday said:Bookmark this. Keep this. Remember this. Watch it often. Memorize it. Learn it. Understand it. Grasp it. Believe it. And never forget it. Ever. pic.twitter.com/U25wYjTBTL
— 🇺🇸Lionel🇺🇸 (@LionelMedia) November 18, 2024
Jesus, you folks kill me. Analyzing immediate post Berlin Wall backdrops against a power that can't give up the hope of it still being there and the neighboring countries wanting no part of that is not a fool's errand, its textbook. Y'all act like **** doesn't change. These people lived under Soviet Rule, and they didn't want to live under russian influence. It's absurd to blame them for wanting to move westward. Y'all are literal blaming the rape victim for not wanting to be chained to the bed any longer.
You are lucky Putin is the adult in the room.
If any other influential political figure in Russia was in charge they would have already gone nuclear and I certainly wouldnt blame them after this latest stunt. The people provoking them are the same people provoking me and the 1/3 of Americans who have deep roots and whose families have given the most for this country.
Anthony Blinken isnt just a puppet of the Zionists. He is one of them. We have a Mossad double agent as our Secretary of State who will be running our government for the next 60 days and he wants to punish Russia for sending weapons to Iran, Syria, and Lebanon. He is defending another Mossad double agent, Zelensky, who is the figurehead of the largest money laundering scheme in human history, transferring enormous amounts of wealth away from Americans and into Zionist pockets.
I've seen hundreds of photos and videos from people living in Ukraine and you would never know there was supposedly some war going on in their country. This is in stark contrast to Gaza where no building remains standing. This war has been very fake and gay for two years... but as their power is about to weaken slightly when Trump takes over, the Zionists have decided to turn a fake war into a real one out of malice and spite over aforementioned weapons transfers to their regional enemies.
I believe Putin is too intelligent to take the bait and will hunker down and tolerate these provocations bcs he knows in 60 days the Zionist Blinken is out and the new administration will negotiate with him bcs it's in the best interests of American AND Ukrainians.
The only people who want this war to continue are the Zionists and their mentally ill/******ed useful idiots.
Good news Trey!
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Few people understand what the war in Ukraine means for big business. It’s not just the weapons and reconstruction contracts. Ukraine’s vast agricultural lands—among the most fertile in the world—are up for grabs, and American companies like BlackRock are at front of the line. pic.twitter.com/bOa6swCXn4
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) January 7, 2024
Redbrickbear said:Few people understand what the war in Ukraine means for big business. It’s not just the weapons and reconstruction contracts. Ukraine’s vast agricultural lands—among the most fertile in the world—are up for grabs, and American companies like BlackRock are at front of the line. pic.twitter.com/bOa6swCXn4
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) January 7, 2024
JUST IN: 🇷🇺 🇺🇸 Russian President Putin says "America is pushing the world into global conflict." pic.twitter.com/OkuEUA0S27
— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) November 21, 2024
Anytime you try to eliminate a cheaper option you take away consumer choice, regardless of motivations.Redbrickbear said:ATL Bear said:I don't think you understand how this works. Tariffs take away the choice because you make everything more expensive,Redbrickbear said:ATL Bear said:Why don't you just "morally" choose to pay more for goods produced domestically?Redbrickbear said:ATL Bear said:Except the math or practicality doesn't work. Why do you need tariffs? Just do it and enter the market.Redbrickbear said:ATL Bear said:I'm not the one making excuses. Check the U.S. regulations on coal mining and smeltering and then look at China and tell me how we compete. And that's just one of dozens of examples.Redbrickbear said:ATL Bear said:I keep telling you why we can't re-industrializeThe_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:Wait, are you actually saying subsidies are lowering costs??? If you think Uncle Sam with his magic subsidy wand fixes the issue, that couldn't be further from the truth. Just look at the scrap heap of ventures the government has destroyed through ineffective subsidy schemes. From the family farm, to Solyndra, to the domestic electronics market, and on and on. Subsidies kill competition and innovation, and game the marketplace, whether at a corporate or individual level. I mean at least with proxy wars you generate manufacturing and service jobs for the defense industry. It's one of the few industries we still actually have success domestically and abroad.The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:You really have no idea what you're talking about. The simplest example is in 2 areas. First, countries with more socialized medicine (government involvement) have lower earnings for physicians, surgeons, specialists, etc. Second, healthcare payments and reimbursement rates are driven down by Medicare/Medicaid and hospitals, surgeons, physicians, etc. struggle for profitability unless they have a healthy private payer, private insurance revenue stream.The_barBEARian said:trey3216 said:Look at Bar_Bearian. Always wanting Big Govt Big Handouts....so long as they are to him.The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:It's not a compensation issue.The_barBEARian said:ATL Bear said:You don't have to tell me. I've been saying it for some time that we can't do here what is done elsewhere from a manufacturing perspective. It's why outsourcing has occurred. To put it in perspective, China and India graduate well over 1 million engineers every year. The U.S. graduates around 100,000. And people wonder why we need to import skilled labor. There's a fundamental shift that has to occur in the American workforce for us to compete from America vs through America.The_barBEARian said:Sound a lot like 2024 America.ATL Bear said:The USSR's labor issues were cultural and skill based not the shortage issue they have today. My comment was simply a problematic workforce.Redbrickbear said:ATL Bear said:
Putin's Russia is getting closer to the Soviet economic dilemmas that crashed it. Defense spending outpacing social spending, rising deficits with increased borrowing costs, inflationary pressures, and a problematic labor force. An unintended weapon Trump will likely initiate is further energy deregulation resulting in lower oil and gas prices (that Russia is already discounting to avoid sanctions) which will put more and more pressure on Russian tax revenues, which are now becoming the primary funding source vs energy.
Meanwhile China is running a debt trap operation on them since the West is sanctioned from buying Russian debt.
I don't think the USSR had that particular problem:
"The crude birth rate in the Soviet Union in 1989 was 17.6 per 1,000 people. The average population of the USSR in 1989 was 286,731,000"
"The USSR had a Fertility rate of 2.3 in 1978-79"
They were doing ok-ish on the population stuff....there was a workforce to replace the elderly aging out.
But the modern Russian Federation certainly does have that problem:
[Russia's fertility rate in 2024 is estimated to be 1.46 children per woman, which is well below the 2.1 children per woman needed to maintain population levels.
In the first six months of 2024, Russia's birth rate was the lowest it's been in 25 years. In June, the number of births fell below 100,000 for the first time
Russia's population is aging rapidly due to a number of factors, including low fertility and a high mortality rate
The natural population declined by 997,000 between October 2020 and September 2021 (the difference between the number of births and the number of deaths over a period). The natural death rate in January 2020, 2021, and 2022 have each been nearly double the natural birth rate.]
TSMC officials claimed the plant they built in Arizona was having problems because the American workforce was too stupid and lazy to develop the technical expertise required to manufacture their semi-conductors.
For once we agree.
Instead of wasting billions of dollars on failed proxy wars, use that money to increase the salaries of our top doctors, scientists, and engineers and incentivize young people into pursuing those careers.
And your moment of clarity has passed... doctors, scientists, and engineers are underpaid for the value they bring to society. If you have never worked in STEM you dont know what you are talking about.
I know quite a few surgeons, doctors, engineers and other STEM oriented folks that get paid quite handsomely, with very little coming from government (outside of contractually obligated stuff from Medicaid/Medicare...which none of them want to deal with since they make less money off that) .
So once again, you just show your ass about small government. You don't want small government. You want big government that makes you the safe space. You want government that selects you and not all "those other people."
Sorry buddy. Keep banging away at the data entry that all the medical doctors do so you can get your paychecks like everyone else does.
Of course there are, but the majority are compensated either directly or indirectly by the government.
Over 50% of a typical hospital's patient volume are on Medicare.
NIH spends $50 billion on grants for medical research every year.
The biggest civil engineering firms and defense contractors work on government contracts.
Utility and Energy companies receive government subsidies.
I want a small government but I also want a sensible government.
I would be in favor of the government subsidizing the industrial sector to bring foundaries and steel mills to the US or spending money on GMP and GLP compliant manufacturing facilities and laboratories to resecure our drug supply chain.
The CHIPS act is a sensible idea, but going back to what ATL_Bear said, there is a gap between the supply curve and the demand curve when it comes to qualified workers with the technical abilities to run these facilities and typically we address this gap in a capitalist economy with wage growth and higher salaries.
America doesnt need any more lawyers or finance guys. We have a surplus.
So not only is that giant healthcare subsidy/entitlement called Medicare crushing our Federal budget and imperiling our fiscal future, it's strangling the healthcare market, particularly rural hospitals and smaller facilities and practices, and driving up healthcare costs.
So tell me more about how we can F up the engineering market? Because you don't understand the issue. If you want to talk STEM, then just look at how small of a percentage of American students participate in it, and then take a second look at the demographics of those who do. Ironically it matches the global market for those same interests. That's a baseline of the fundamental issue.
And then there's heavy industry, which again is so hamstrung by regulations you can barely get the coal and scrap steel you need to even sniff those types of operations, much less discuss the mining dearth we've cast upon ourselves. And that's not even getting to the labor force that's not even interested in that type of thankless difficult work to participate at the levels other countries manage to execute. We have a supply and skill shortage at pretty much every level of the manufacturing segment, and to change that isn't to artificially inflate the costs or throw more government dollars at it. It's a reevaluation of labor and skill perspectives, as well as massive regulatory and environmental policy shifts.
But the real solution isn't what the wage complainers want, and that is technology, the biggest job killer since tools were invented.
I wrote a great reply to address all of your strawmans but I backed out of my post and my brilliance was lost to the ether.
So I will address the major relevant plot point - to compete with China and India, America must subsidize our industries and that includes our specialists and skilled tradesmen. The Chinese and Indian governments both subsidize their industries and that is why it is not economically viable for private industry in America to pursue them. They would take on billions in debt, immediately get cost cut, and go bankrupt within a few years.
These subsidies would pay for themselves by lowering costs and bringing down inflation.
Finally, you and Trey are in no position to lecture anyone on government waste when you both support the most wasteful, corrupt, least beneficial use of tax payer dollars - funding failed proxy wars that are not essential to our national security and offer zero ROI to the American tax payer.
Shipping heavy metals and machinery from China or India takes a lot of time and costs a lot of money.
Time and money that could be saved by reindustrializing America.
These industries were all outsourced and sold off in the 80ties and 90ties so some jackoff vulture capitalists could make a quick buck at the expense of middle class American workers.
There is also the national security threat posed to your beloved defense industry being dependent on raw materials and parts from unfriendly nations.
China has strategically used government subsidies to kick our ass.
China now sucks $1 trillion, and growing, per year out of America.
Even India, a country that rather infamously struggles with urban sanitation, is able to out compete America.
China's new trade surplus record
India's largest trading partner is the US, and it is also one of the few countries with which India had a trade surplus in 2022-23
Yes we can
We are the greatest super power on earth
Of course we can re-industrialize if we want
Stop making excuses
A classic case of how tariffs on China could level the playing field for American workers and companies
You don't think things like slave labor and ignoring environmental pollution give China a leg up on producing things?
You don't think certain specific tariffs should be imposed to level the playing field between American companies that follow the law (and morality) and the Chinese communists who don't?
I am happy to pay more for American made products.
But for millions of others the price is the main driver
Liberals and conservatives both know buying from China is helping a really evil State, being produced often times by slaves (or semi-slaves) , and is certainly not been done with the environmental constraints that Americans companies have to follow.
A tariff would even that disadvantage American workers have to labor under.
And make that moral choice much easier for American consumers
No that would be a trade embargo…not a tariff
You would still be able to purchase Chinese polluted slave steel if you wanted
[Tariffs can be a fixed amount or a percentage of the price of the goods. They increase the price of imported goods, which can give domestic products a price advantage]
Just admit you want to throw open the makets of the USA to anyone.
While making American workers and companies compete with places like China.
While China gets to break every rule in the book
I wasn't evaluating it from a human rights perspective (which I concur on the principle), but an economic one. However, with that broad of a definition then we buy lots of slave goods, including every time you fill up your vehicle.historian said:
China is ruled by a one party dictatorship, the CCP. Socialism is slavery. Anything bought from China is essentially using slave labor. The people there don't have freedom. Don'f forget Tiananmen Square 1989.
They would invade Mexico and blockade the country until the threat was subdued.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
ATL Bear said:They would invade Mexico and blockade the country until the threat was subdued.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
Russia never wanted neutrality in Ukraine, and was the first nefarious actor.Sam Lowry said:All of Ukraine voted for independence and neutrality in 1991. No region voted to rejoin Russia until after the neutral government of Ukraine was overthrown.sombear said:All of Ukraine, including Crimea, voted for independence in 1991. Ukraine has been a free and sovereign nation since then. It has had all sorts of different alliances, but never once did any region vote to be taken over again by Russia. In fact, when given a clear choice at the federal and regional levels, Ukrainians chose the free world. Russia wouldn't accept that, so it invaded in 2014.Redbrickbear said:sombear said:it is a free sovereign nation aligned with the free world.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
Russia invaded it, knowing Ukraine had the support of the free world and knowing we would supply weapons.
1. It was not aligned to the West until a political coup in 2014 overthrew the old government.
Very strong evidence the CIA and State Department were involved in that coup.
2. Why would Moscow know that DC would spend billions to help Ukraine fight a proxy war?
Did Moscow send billions in weaponry to Iraq & Afghanistan after DC sent in troops in 2001 and 2003
Maybe they expected that DC would act like they did and largely stay out of it.
Putin had no interest in Iraq or Afghanistan. And he supplies weapons to many of our adversaries.
We and the Euros were clear about what we'd do if Putin invaded Ukraine. And we had been supplying Ukraine weapons forever.
Yanukovych ran on what the vast majority of Ukrainians wanted -- a fair deal with the EU and a balanced relationship with the EU and Russia. He was never allowed to deliver on that.
Yes, against the cartels, in Mexico. Stopping supply chains is a military move. Russia hasn't been effective doing so,KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:They would invade Mexico and blockade the country until the threat was subdued.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
We would invade Mexico and use every weapon at our disposal
ATL Bear said:Yes, against the cartels, in Mexico. Stopping supply chains is a military move. Russia hasn't been effective doing so,KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:They would invade Mexico and blockade the country until the threat was subdued.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
We would invade Mexico and use every weapon at our disposal
They're 0-2 in the last 50 years on that.KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:Yes, against the cartels, in Mexico. Stopping supply chains is a military move. Russia hasn't been effective doing so,KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:They would invade Mexico and blockade the country until the threat was subdued.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
We would invade Mexico and use every weapon at our disposal
Russia has been effective bleeding out their adversaries for centuries.
Doing the same in Ukraine.
ATL Bear said:They're 0-2 in the last 50 years on that.KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:Yes, against the cartels, in Mexico. Stopping supply chains is a military move. Russia hasn't been effective doing so,KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:They would invade Mexico and blockade the country until the threat was subdued.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
We would invade Mexico and use every weapon at our disposal
Russia has been effective bleeding out their adversaries for centuries.
Doing the same in Ukraine.
ATL Bear said:They're 0-2 in the last 50 years on that.KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:Yes, against the cartels, in Mexico. Stopping supply chains is a military move. Russia hasn't been effective doing so,KaiBear said:ATL Bear said:They would invade Mexico and blockade the country until the threat was subdued.KaiBear said:trey3216 said:Ukraine shouldn't be allowed to attack military targets that used to target Ukrainian military and civilian targets??? Interesting angle....Doc Holliday said:So Ukraine should use the long range missiles that would be launched from Ukraine and are targeted and controlled by NATO?whiterock said:Catturd misses on that one.historian said:The fact that the Biden regime is trying to start WWIII right before Trump, who just won a historic landslide victory who ran on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, just shows how evil these POS treasonous traitors scumbags really are.
— Catturd â„¢ (@catturd2) November 17, 2024
Biden and Trump met a couple of days ago. Do we think Ukraine was discussed? Did Trump comment on any of that about Ukraine? One could reasonably read between the lines that Trump wanted all the aid delivered so he would not have to spend his own political capital to get it done.....to give him time to work his own plan.
Trump is in a little bit of a bind here. He pandered to anti-war sentiment to get elected, knowing full well that abandoning Ukraine would be an unfathomably stupid thing to do. i don't blame him at all for the pander. Pandering is an essential part of politics and those who think they're too good to do it aren't worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. But now he has to figure out a way to avoid doing what a really big and noisy chunk of his base wants him to do - cut & run from Ukraine. For sure he has a plan for how to walk the tightrope, and pushing all that aid into Ukraine before he takes over will give him some room to maneuver.
Keep your eye on the ball here:
Trump does not want Ukraine to become Afghanistan 2.0
Trump wants to win so much that America gets tired of winning.
As far as I know, they did just that today and fired them at a military facility in the Bryansk border region.
Good grief dude……exactly what do you think any US administration would do if Russia was openly supplying long range missiles to Mexican Drug cartels and they were actively using them to attack targets in various US cities and states ?
Just once at least attempt to provide an honest / specific answer and not just some generic Rambo bull*****
We would invade Mexico and use every weapon at our disposal
Russia has been effective bleeding out their adversaries for centuries.
Doing the same in Ukraine.
— Real Ben (@AtRealBen) November 21, 2024
Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
Redbrickbear said:The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
She is an African speaking the English language, wearing Western clothing, and living in Ireland
It's her who is engaging in cultural appropriation
PS
Russia does similar (if not quite as lame) multicultural/ multiracial propaganda
The Russian bots are really trying hard to blame the United States for their invasion of a sovereign nation.
— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) November 22, 2024
Keep fighting Ukraine.
Keir Starmer has just admitted on a tweet that he is now in partnership with Blackrock.
— Pavvy G (@pavyg) November 21, 2024
For those of you who still haven't got a clue what's happening, I implore you to watch this video.pic.twitter.com/QVdTi2Qmum
The_barBEARian said:Redbrickbear said:The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
She is an African speaking the English language, wearing Western clothing, and living in Ireland
It's her who is engaging in cultural appropriation
PS
Russia does similar (if not quite as lame) multicultural/ multiracial propaganda
At least with the Russian video all those groups have long historic, ancestral ties to Russia.
Although the Slavs are the majority and rule Russia, its never been a homogenous country.
It is absolutely not an artificial fake country, and your "America is for white people" bull**** is disgusting. You are an awful human being. I can't imagine how disgusted you must be when you see your fat ass in the mirror and have to justify your use of oxygen by hating anyone that doesn't look like you. ****ing piece of *****The_barBEARian said:Redbrickbear said:The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
She is an African speaking the English language, wearing Western clothing, and living in Ireland
It's her who is engaging in cultural appropriation
PS
Russia does similar (if not quite as lame) multicultural/ multiracial propaganda
At least with the Russian video all those groups have long historic, ancestral ties to Russia.
Although the Slavs are the majority and rule Russia, its never been a homogenous country.
Most European countries... but most especially Ireland, were nearly completely homogenous until this post-WW2 period but obviously over the last 20 years it has accelerated into insanity.
Which brings us back to what started all this in the first place, Ukraine is an artificial, fake country created by the communist methuselah Vladimir Lenin.
These lands are historically Polish and Russian.
trey3216 said:It is absolutely not an artificial fake country,The_barBEARian said:Redbrickbear said:The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
She is an African speaking the English language, wearing Western clothing, and living in Ireland
It's her who is engaging in cultural appropriation
PS
Russia does similar (if not quite as lame) multicultural/ multiracial propaganda
At least with the Russian video all those groups have long historic, ancestral ties to Russia.
Although the Slavs are the majority and rule Russia, its never been a homogenous country.
Most European countries... but most especially Ireland, were nearly completely homogenous until this post-WW2 period but obviously over the last 20 years it has accelerated into insanity.
Which brings us back to what started all this in the first place, Ukraine is an artificial, fake country created by the communist methuselah Vladimir Lenin.
These lands are historically Polish and Russian.
trey3216 said:your "America is for white people" bull**** is disgusting. You are an awful human being.The_barBEARian said:Redbrickbear said:The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
She is an African speaking the English language, wearing Western clothing, and living in Ireland
It's her who is engaging in cultural appropriation
PS
Russia does similar (if not quite as lame) multicultural/ multiracial propaganda
At least with the Russian video all those groups have long historic, ancestral ties to Russia.
Although the Slavs are the majority and rule Russia, its never been a homogenous country.
Most European countries... but most especially Ireland, were nearly completely homogenous until this post-WW2 period but obviously over the last 20 years it has accelerated into insanity.
Which brings us back to what started all this in the first place, Ukraine is an artificial, fake country created by the communist methuselah Vladimir Lenin.
These lands are historically Polish and Russian.
Complete BS. Corporate America is losing due this war, and it's not even close. We're talking maybe 1 or 2 industries benefitting, and that's debatable based on longer term considerations.Redbrickbear said:Few people understand what the war in Ukraine means for big business. It’s not just the weapons and reconstruction contracts. Ukraine’s vast agricultural lands—among the most fertile in the world—are up for grabs, and American companies like BlackRock are at front of the line. pic.twitter.com/bOa6swCXn4
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) January 7, 2024
sombear said:Complete BS. Corporate America is losing due this war, and it's not even close. We're talking maybe 1 or 2 industries benefitting, and that's debatable based on longer term considerations.Redbrickbear said:Few people understand what the war in Ukraine means for big business. It’s not just the weapons and reconstruction contracts. Ukraine’s vast agricultural lands—among the most fertile in the world—are up for grabs, and American companies like BlackRock are at front of the line. pic.twitter.com/bOa6swCXn4
— Robert F. Kennedy Jr (@RobertKennedyJr) January 7, 2024
What part of 1991 do y'all not understand. Overwhelming majorities supported breaking away from Russia. Even Crimea - which most of y'all basically deem "Russia" - was over 50%.Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:It is absolutely not an artificial fake country,The_barBEARian said:Redbrickbear said:The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
She is an African speaking the English language, wearing Western clothing, and living in Ireland
It's her who is engaging in cultural appropriation
PS
Russia does similar (if not quite as lame) multicultural/ multiracial propaganda
At least with the Russian video all those groups have long historic, ancestral ties to Russia.
Although the Slavs are the majority and rule Russia, its never been a homogenous country.
Most European countries... but most especially Ireland, were nearly completely homogenous until this post-WW2 period but obviously over the last 20 years it has accelerated into insanity.
Which brings us back to what started all this in the first place, Ukraine is an artificial, fake country created by the communist methuselah Vladimir Lenin.
These lands are historically Polish and Russian.
Its always been a split country at the least
Parts of it obviously want to be aligned with the West and away from Moscow
And parts obviously want to be aligned with Moscow
The West vs East dynamic was the major fault line of their domestic politics for the entire 30 year history of independent Ukraine.
cool. And they also wrote this document knowing full well that it would lead to the breaking down of the Nat Act, and the abolishment of slavery...Redbrickbear said:trey3216 said:your "America is for white people" bull**** is disgusting. You are an awful human being.The_barBEARian said:Redbrickbear said:The_barBEARian said:Ireland is a deeply sick country.
— MichaeloKeeffe (@Mick_O_Keeffe) November 21, 2024
Kids are being taught to see themselves as less than foreigners and to feel a sense of shame just for existing.
This is not how a healthy society operates. pic.twitter.com/CyZpOYdkvE
She is an African speaking the English language, wearing Western clothing, and living in Ireland
It's her who is engaging in cultural appropriation
PS
Russia does similar (if not quite as lame) multicultural/ multiracial propaganda
At least with the Russian video all those groups have long historic, ancestral ties to Russia.
Although the Slavs are the majority and rule Russia, its never been a homogenous country.
Most European countries... but most especially Ireland, were nearly completely homogenous until this post-WW2 period but obviously over the last 20 years it has accelerated into insanity.
Which brings us back to what started all this in the first place, Ukraine is an artificial, fake country created by the communist methuselah Vladimir Lenin.
These lands are historically Polish and Russian.
American today might be a multi-cultural/multi-racial State
But lets not rewrite history and pretend it always was so....or that it was what the Founding Fathers wanted.
[The Naturalization Act of 1790 was the first major piece of immigration legislation in the United States and established the country's first rules for citizenship:
- Requirements
To become a citizen, applicants had to be "free white persons" who had lived in the United States for at least two years and their state of residence for one year. They also had to demonstrate good moral character and swear allegiance to the Constitution.]
Heck its not even what Lincoln's Republican party wanted before mid-point in the Civil War
"The whole nation is interested that the best use shall be made of these territories. We want them for the homes of free white people. This they cannot be, to any considerable extent, if slavery, and the African, shall be planted within them."~Abraham Lincoln, "Speech at Peoria,"
"We...are the white man's party...We are for free white men, & for making white labor respectable & honorable, which it can never be when negro labor is brought into competition with it."
-Lyman Trumbull (Republican-IL, 13th Amendment Author), 8/7/1858
