Why Are We in Ukraine?

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sombear
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Sam Lowry said:

sombear said:

Sam Lowry said:

sombear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

"So in fact dictators often don't hold elections"

literally my point lmao.. It is not up to him big brains


Yes it is

He can hold elections anytime he wants by suspending the presidential decree of martial law

[imposition of martial law has meant that polls have been indefinitely suspended. Since the war began in February 2022, martial law has been imposed and extended (for 90 days at a time) 14 times thus far]

He does hold elections because he does not want to do so….and the DC (before Trump) and Brussels were not forcing him to do so.
Dictator!!!

This is why the Ukrainian parliament's opposition leaders signed a joint statement that both parliamentary and presidential elections should take place after the cessation of the war and the conclusion of martial law. The document indicates a consensus among major political parties regarding the need for an appropriate period of time to prepare for elections and favorable conditions for campaigning and voting.

What Do Voters Think?

For the general population, holding elections under current conditions would be problematic. For example, in a November survey conducted by Kyiv's International Institute of Sociology, over 80 percent of respondents expressed a preference for deferring elections until the war had ended.
As if there were any real opposition parties in parliament. They were disbanded and their assets seized long ago. A few members may still occupy seats, but that have no organized leadership. Zelensky's biggest political rival is Poroshenko, a Western ally whom he's now accusing of treason.
No, most of the members of the pro-Russian parties that were banned are back in parliament and/or politically active. The members were not banned, just the parties.

No also on opposition. There are 3 candidates widely expected to eventually run, including the general Zelensky fired, and all 3 have come publicly against holding elections. Not a single elected official has called for an election, even though 80% or more in safe seats.
Some of them have a parliamentary group, but without a party infrastructure or any of their former resources they've been neutered and intimidated into "keeping a low profile," as the Ukrainian media demurely put it.

I think citing Zaluzhny as a significant opposition figure really highlights my point. If anything he's even more anti-Russian than Zelensky. What's left of Ukrainian politics is basically a contest between the far right and the ultra-far right.
Believe it or not, I agree with you on your last paragraph. And that is why it is silly to call for elections. Among many other reasons, either Zelensky will win or someone even more hawkish.
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I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
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The_barBEARian said:


US joins Russia to vote against UN resolution condemning Russia's war against Ukraine

This is bound to upset all of the right people!
absolutely abhorrent and embarrassing. What have we become as a people. We are a laughing stock.
ron.reagan
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historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield
ron.reagan
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J.R. said:

The_barBEARian said:


US joins Russia to vote against UN resolution condemning Russia's war against Ukraine

This is bound to upset all of the right people!
absolutely abhorrent and embarrassing. What have we become as a people. We are a laughing stock.
Are we the baddies?
The_barBEARian
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ron.reagan said:

J.R. said:

The_barBEARian said:


US joins Russia to vote against UN resolution condemning Russia's war against Ukraine

This is bound to upset all of the right people!
absolutely abhorrent and embarrassing. What have we become as a people. We are a laughing stock.
Are we the baddies?


Yes Ron, you are.

Glad that is finally sinking in!
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J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield

Your takes are always funny

Russia is incompetent on the battlefield (they are)...but are also going to run through Warsaw & Berlin on their way to conquer Paris.....lol
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Assassin said:



"It has been a member of the UN longer than Russia. It (Ukraine) has a language, identity & its own aspirations"

The Polish Ambassador is absolutely right

But he forgets that a least a 1/3rd of Ukraine was never culturally, ethnically, and historically part of the Ukrainian Nation.

And that Kyiv is still fighting a war to try and pull people back into a Union with Ukraine who don't want to be part of that Nation




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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

Assassin said:



"It has been a member of the UN longer than Russia. It (Ukraine) has a language, identity & its own aspirations"

The Polish Ambassador is absolutely right

But he forgets that a least a 1/3rd of Ukraine was never culturally, ethnically, and historically part of the Ukrainian Nation.

And that Kyiv is still fighting a war to try and pull people back into a Union with Ukraine who don't want to be part of that Nation





Ukraine is much more of a homogeneous culture than Russia, so if you weren't such an obvious Putin sympathizer you would be making the opposite point.
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield

Your takes are always funny

Russia is incompetent on the battlefield (they are)...but are also going to run through Warsaw & Berlin on their way to conquer Paris.....lol
Your takes aren't that funny because you always confuse fundamental concepts of the English language. You don't have to be a competent war machine to be a deadly one.
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield

Your takes are always funny

Russia is incompetent on the battlefield (they are)...but are also going to run through Warsaw & Berlin on their way to conquer Paris.....lol
Your takes aren't that funny because you always confuse fundamental concepts of the English language. You don't have to be a competent war machine to be a deadly one.

No but it does blow a hole in your histrionic attempts to scare people in the West into war with Russia....that the Russian army can not even take a local weak neighbor (3 years of stalemate)

You will have to come up with another line of propaganda if you want to frighten Americans into war....unless you want to sound very stupid.

Of course you have never been afraid to come off like an idiot on this forum
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

Assassin said:



"It has been a member of the UN longer than Russia. It (Ukraine) has a language, identity & its own aspirations"

The Polish Ambassador is absolutely right

But he forgets that a least a 1/3rd of Ukraine was never culturally, ethnically, and historically part of the Ukrainian Nation.

And that Kyiv is still fighting a war to try and pull people back into a Union with Ukraine who don't want to be part of that Nation





Ukraine is much more of a homogeneous culture than Russia, so if you weren't such an obvious Putin sympathizer you would be making the opposite point.

Talk about falling back on false accusations, slander, and illogical fallacies

Its all you have...... boring

Not wanting to get the USA and its people into a possible Nuclear war over a non-critical area of the globe is prudent

PS

For all your war mongering bluster you have not yet told us when you plan on getting your old butt up and heading over to Ukraine to fight the big bad russians.....when are you leaving?

I would be happy to buy you a one way plane ticket to the battlefront
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ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield

Your takes are always funny

Russia is incompetent on the battlefield (they are)...but are also going to run through Warsaw & Berlin on their way to conquer Paris.....lol
Your takes aren't that funny because you always confuse fundamental concepts of the English language. You don't have to be a competent war machine to be a deadly one.

No but it does blow a hole in your histrionic attempts to scare people in the West into war with Russia....that the Russian army can not even take a local weak neighbor (3 years of stalemate)

You will have to come up with another line of propaganda if you want to frighten Americans into war....unless you want to sound very stupid.

Of course you have never been afraid to come off like an idiot on this forum
You just can't stand to argue actual points can you?
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield

Your takes are always funny

Russia is incompetent on the battlefield (they are)...but are also going to run through Warsaw & Berlin on their way to conquer Paris.....lol
Your takes aren't that funny because you always confuse fundamental concepts of the English language. You don't have to be a competent war machine to be a deadly one.

No but it does blow a hole in your histrionic attempts to scare people in the West into war with Russia....that the Russian army can not even take a local weak neighbor (3 years of stalemate)

You will have to come up with another line of propaganda if you want to frighten Americans into war....unless you want to sound very stupid.

Of course you have never been afraid to come off like an idiot on this forum
You just can't stand to argue actual points can you?
You have not made any actual points

Just stupid slanders about "putin sympathizer" or "Russia will take over Europe if not stopped in Donbas"

Or "we are fighting commies over there"

This is all so stupid its nearly impossible to respond to....
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I do enjoy calling out your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I does enjoying calling your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
Will you take time for a quick visit since I'll be inside Russian territory?
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I does enjoying calling your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
Will you take time for a quick visit since I'll be inside Russian territory?

So lame.....so stupid......so predictable

(ps....you wont even go....because deep down you know you're a coward and very scared of actual war)
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I does enjoying calling your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
Will you take time for a quick visit since I'll be inside Russian territory?

So lame.....so stupid......so predictable

(ps....you wont even go....because deep down you know you're a coward and very scared of actual war)
If you aren't scared of war you either haven't been there or not good at statistics
Redbrickbear
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I does enjoying calling your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
Will you take time for a quick visit since I'll be inside Russian territory?

So lame.....so stupid......so predictable

(ps....you wont even go....because deep down you know you're a coward and very scared of actual war)
If you aren't scared of war you either haven't been there or not good at statistics

Not scared enough to stop me from defending my own country

And not rooting on a war in a far off land that has no geo-strategic importance to the United States of America

You are afraid to fight but not afraid to demand others go die in a stupid war...pathetic
ron.reagan
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I does enjoying calling your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
Will you take time for a quick visit since I'll be inside Russian territory?

So lame.....so stupid......so predictable

(ps....you wont even go....because deep down you know you're a coward and very scared of actual war)
If you aren't scared of war you either haven't been there or not good at statistics

Not scared enough to stop me from defending my own country

And not rooting on a war in a far off land that has no geo-strategic importance to the United States of America

You are afraid to fight but not afraid to demand others go die in a stupid war...pathetic
Can you reference where I demanded anyone fight? It should be easy since you just claimed I did it
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ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I does enjoying calling your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
Will you take time for a quick visit since I'll be inside Russian territory?

So lame.....so stupid......so predictable

(ps....you wont even go....because deep down you know you're a coward and very scared of actual war)
If you aren't scared of war you either haven't been there or not good at statistics

Not scared enough to stop me from defending my own country

And not rooting on a war in a far off land that has no geo-strategic importance to the United States of America

You are afraid to fight but not afraid to demand others go die in a stupid war...pathetic
Can you reference where I demanded anyone fight?

You have constantly advocated for getting the USA deeper into this regional war (where no enrolled ally of the USA is being attacked)

You have slandered and attacked anyone who has advocated for peace or even opening negotiations to end the war.

And you have made zero intelligent contributions to the discussion nor provided any new insights.

Plus you turn down every chance to go join up and fight in Ukraine yourself....since you care so much about this war.
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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
I think everyone want to see the war end, just like Israel /Gaza. The FACT that Trump continues to repeat that Ukraine was the aggressor and started the war. No one in their right mind could possibly believe that. For anyone who does, please let me know the specifics. Did Russia invade Ukraine or not? Unbelievable that our President can get people to believe it. Howdy Hitler.
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
If the only thing you want is to see the war end I can see why you must be frustrated

Gosh...such a horrible thing to be a peace maker and not advocate for war

I wonder what Christ would say about that....

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God" -Matthew 5:9

"Then saith Jesus unto him (speaking to Peter), Put up again thy sword into its place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword." -Matthew 26:52
Unless Jesus was a big of ***** as you are, he would defend his country

You're the big fat wet twat that won't go fight in a war you want others to go die in.....you demented leftist
Wow, you are very triggered.

lol not by you......but I does enjoying calling your cowardly behavior and nonsensical talking points

DM me for that plane ticket to the battlelines buddy....I more than be happy to make a donation to get you there
Will you take time for a quick visit since I'll be inside Russian territory?

So lame.....so stupid......so predictable

(ps....you wont even go....because deep down you know you're a coward and very scared of actual war)
If you aren't scared of war you either haven't been there or not good at statistics

Not scared enough to stop me from defending my own country

And not rooting on a war in a far off land that has no geo-strategic importance to the United States of America

You are afraid to fight but not afraid to demand others go die in a stupid war...pathetic
Can you reference where I demanded anyone fight?

You have constantly advocated for getting the USA deeper into this regional war (where no enrolled ally of the USA is being attacked)

You have slandered and attacked anyone who has advocated for peace or even opening negotiations to end the war.

And you have made zero intelligent contributions to the discussion nor provided any new insights.

Plus you turn down every chance to go join up and fight in Ukraine yourself....since you care so much about this war.
I didn't think so
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J.R. said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

I did enjoy seeing the little French Guy (Macron) run circles around Trump yesterday. Charmed the crap out of him as Trump loves, then Macron punched him in the nose relative to the structure of the European "loan" as Trump said. Macron fact checked the Liar in Chief in real time on TV and set him straight. The look on Trump's fat face was priceless.
Amusing how we all look situations differently.

Often twisting realities to enhance our pre conceived notions.

I just want to see this war end and hopefully get some of the billions Biden gave away returned to benefit American taxpayers.
I think everyone want to see the war end, just like Israel /Gaza. The FACT that Trump continues to repeat that Ukraine was the aggressor and started the war. No one in their right mind could possibly believe that. For anyone who does, please let me know the specifics. Did Russia invade Ukraine or not? Unbelievable that our President can get people to believe it. Howdy Hitler.
Not everyone wants to see the war end on realistic terms.

Ukraine's military is clearly bleeding to death.

Her infrastructure blasted; the people worn out.

Trump is right to push for a settlement....Biden never had the juice to do so.

Don't agree with all of Trump's comments; however I suspect he is looking beyond a truce and attempting to build some long term business realationships with Russia as a way to have real security in Europe.
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A country doesn't need to be an equivalent military force to be a threat, even a great threat. In fact they don't even need to be remotely close to that. We were brought to our knees by people living in caves from all purposes 4th world countries. Some are asymmetrical threats, like terror groups or Somali pirates, while others like Iran, Russia, and China fight you indirectly in theaters where they are more powerful than the locals.

I think the fundamental disagreement occurs where many focus on where the conflict occurs rather than why/if the conflict should occur. In essence, the micro vs macro purpose.
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ATL Bear said:

A country doesn't need to be an equivalent military force to be a threat, even a great threat. In fact they don't even need to be remotely close to that. We were brought to our knees by people living in caves from all purposes 4th world countries. Some are asymmetrical threats, like terror groups or Somali pirates, while others like Iran, Russia, and China fight you indirectly in theaters where they are more powerful than the locals.

I think the fundamental disagreement occurs where many focus on where the conflict occurs rather than why/if the conflict should occur. In essence, the micro vs macro purpose.

This is so true!

Case and point - how Israel controls our entire government and hand selects our secretary's of state regardless of who becomes President.
ron.reagan
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The_barBEARian said:

ATL Bear said:

A country doesn't need to be an equivalent military force to be a threat, even a great threat. In fact they don't even need to be remotely close to that. We were brought to our knees by people living in caves from all purposes 4th world countries. Some are asymmetrical threats, like terror groups or Somali pirates, while others like Iran, Russia, and China fight you indirectly in theaters where they are more powerful than the locals.

I think the fundamental disagreement occurs where many focus on where the conflict occurs rather than why/if the conflict should occur. In essence, the micro vs macro purpose.

This is so true!

Case and point - how Israel controls our entire government and hand selects our secretary's of state regardless of who becomes President.
Israel doesn't even control their entire government
Sam Lowry
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Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield

Your takes are always funny

Russia is incompetent on the battlefield (they are)...but are also going to run through Warsaw & Berlin on their way to conquer Paris.....lol
The Russian army is highly competent at what it's designed to do, which is to defend Russia and its bordering regions. It's not in a posture that would enable it to attack Europe, and if that ever changed we would know years in advance. It's not something they could prepare overnight.
ron.reagan
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Sam Lowry said:

Redbrickbear said:

ron.reagan said:

historian said:



It wouldn't be the first time Russia was completely ignorant of the battlefield

Your takes are always funny

Russia is incompetent on the battlefield (they are)...but are also going to run through Warsaw & Berlin on their way to conquer Paris.....lol
The Russian army is highly competent at what it's designed to do, which is to defend Russia and its bordering regions. It's not in a posture that would enable it to attack Europe, and if that ever changed we would know years in advance. It's not something they could prepare overnight.
Who is gonna tell him? lmao
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