AG Ken Paxton on glide path to impeachment

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Your glide path got gummed up with mucous


You win. Paxton is the face of the Texas Republican Party
You own him

No, the people of Texas do, but thanks for revealing the "vanity uber alles" that drives your thinking.

If/when he's convicted if something, I'll lead the charge to impeach. Until then, I'm going to work to punish the numbskulls who incompetently executed up a half-baked impeachment idea that could only have been worse politics had it succeeded.

What dumba$$es…..


He is the face of Republicans
He's your boy

I'll caucus with Paxton. And MQS. And Romney. And Bush. And Trump. And RDS. They and more are welcome in my tent. I'll even hold my nose and try not to bump into those pompous *******s Christie and Hutchinson, as long as they can bring themselves to show up. I'll caucus with anyone who will help me defeat progressive agendas. Sure, I may get mud on my shoes. Or have to take pictures with people I'm not terribly excited about, like that one with John Boehner. Oh the things one has to do to help a friend raise money. I might even have to defend something I'd rather not defend.

But if you're too good for that kind of stuff, by all means you be you. Be sure to be real loud about it. Otherwise people won't know how much more virtuous you are than the rest of us. Would be a shame to make the posture and nobody see it.

You seem to be at odds with your fellow travelers. They say the Bush family are trying to take over Texas? Do you believe that "globalists" were behind the impeachment of Paxton?
Are the state reps who voted to impeach welcome in your tent? Will you caucus with Dade Phelan?
Not at odds at all. Political coalitions are full of people who don't like each other. Also full of truces during election season. Most people are smart enough to understand that "never" caucuses are cul-de-sacs of hate and division, and steer clear. If you can't say something nice about the nominee, just don't say anything. Find a way to contribute and you'll see more progress toward your preferred objectives. If you get in front of the wagon, you won't get anywhere and you're likely to get run over. Etc....queue all the sound advice parents give about picking battles.

I am going to donate to Phelan's strongest primary opponent. And if Phelan wins, I'll do everything I can to see him dethroned as Speaker. However that ends up, I know not to trust his leadership skills, judgment, and teamwork ability and will keep an eye on him. Otherwise, it'll be time to find a way to make a truce and contribute something positive somewhere. We might need one another for something down the road, end up on a committee and commission somewhere. Families are like that. We work hard to like relatives we don't actually like, because we might have to sit at the same table with them at weddings and funerals, and don't want to make it any more uncomfortable than it already is for ourselves and the rest of the family.
Like I said, it sounds like the state reps who voted to impeach aren't welcome in your tent.
First - you'll oppose Phelan in the primary, then oppose him for Speaker, but if he is Speaker you might need to use him so ...

Continue to make the tent smaller like Democrats did in the 90's
LOL the smaller tent caucus goes, making nonsense again. After in 4 years in office, Trump grew the tent by 15m voters in 2020 = 25% more voters than Romney 8 years, earlier. These were mostly new voters to the tent, crossover blue collar Democrats, minorities, and low-propensity voters of several different types.

you just think the new people in the tent are beneath you, so you're having a little hissy fit.
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Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?

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whiterock said:

OsoCoreyell said:

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Hopefully the Texas AG sees the handwriting on the wall and eventually steps aside for another Republican.
Nope. He will view this as a license to do anything he wants. He'll be gunning for Patrick's seat next.

Horrible outcome. Patrick is an idiot.
Yep. Winning the impeachment did make Paxton stronger, helped his chances to move up the ladder.

Paxton-phobes better hope the investigations result in convictions. If not, there's a good chance Paxton will be your next governor.


As a lawyer here in Austin with pretty close connections to the AG's office and one of the parties Paxton had dealings with, I can tell you with certainty that if the evidence I have seen is real and what I have been told by this witness is truthful, Paxton is clearly guilty of multiple felonies. And it's not Trump-like charges, where prosecutors are attempting to charge on flimsy legal theories, but stuff that those convicted do really hard time for if you are an average person. He's done some things as a lawyer that I would be in jail for and disbarred if I had done the same.

Now, does that translate into a conviction in front a jury of his peers? Who knows? But this guy is dirty as the day is long. It would be a very bad look for the party to support this guy for any higher office, that is for sure. Any moral high ground it ever had would be completely lost. The Dems would have a field day. But perhaps it already is.
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Keyser Soze
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Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?

Oldbear83
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Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
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boognish_bear
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Jeff Leach....watch your back. Paxton kept receipts.

Although....Paxton endorsing a rival may not carry the weight it used to. We will see.

Keyser Soze
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Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Frank Galvin
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Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
Oldbear83
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Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.
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Oldbear83
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
I have one. Quite a few, actually.

Hunter Biden's personal life is cleaner than the 2020 election, and everyone knows it.
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Cobretti
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Frank Galvin
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Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
I have one. Quite a few, actually.

Hunter Biden's personal life is cleaner than the 2020 election, and everyone knows it.


Hunter Biden's personal life is a train wreck. How is that relevant to election fraud?
If that is an example of your "clues" then you are completely lost.
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Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.


How much fraud is acceptable? What is the probability that Trump's lead in five swing states would begin to dissipate all within a half hour of each other?
Oldbear83
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boognish_bear said:


I don't have much use for Senator Cornyn, but if it's him or Paxton, I will hold my nose and vote for Cornyn.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.


How much fraud is acceptable? What is the probability that Trump's lead in five swing states would begin to dissipate all within a half hour of each other?
Trump never had a real lead in those states. He had in-person votes counted first. The fact that they all changed when the states started counting absentee/early voting surprised no one with a brain.

All fraud should be prosecuted.

A candidate has the ability to show the state legislature or the court that a different slate of electors should be seated if the fraud would have changed the election. Trump has numerous opportunities to do that and never made any showing remotely close.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.


How much fraud is acceptable? What is the probability that Trump's lead in five swing states would begin to dissipate all within a half hour of each other?

Rural areas lean heavily R and report much sooner than Urban areas which lean D. This is no surprise and happens most every election won by a D. An election won by an R in a swing State generally leads wire to wire.



Mothra
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Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?
I believe 81 million voters would have cast a vote for a wet paper bag if the other choice was Trump. The MSM fomented so much hatred and scare tactics that people came out to vote in droves against him. And of course, he likewise did himself absolutely no favors with his own conduct.

I don't think some of you realize how truly hated he is in large swaths of the country.
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Cobretti said:


So now Rove is a liberal? LOL. Ok, Tucker.

I am no Rove fan, but liberal? Establishment and neo-con maybe, but liberal? Tucker has gone off the deep end.

They attempted to impeach Paxton because he's done a good job of alienating some Republicans, and more importantly, he is a POS who committed multiple felonies.
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Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? The bureaucrats in charge of elections in Georgia.
Whiskey Pete
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
lol... Trump didn't change when he was in the White House, if someone thought Trump was an a*hole in 2020, they thought he was an a*hole in 2016, but those voters didn't turn out in massive numbers to vote against him 4 years earlier? Yeah okay.

Maybe if the vote count was stopped in the middle of the night in 2016, perhaps Hillary Clinton would've received 81 million votes. You know, being the first women and all.
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boognish_bear said:


What cowards!!
Astros in Home Stretch Geaux Texans
Frank Galvin
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Rawhide said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
lol... Trump didn't change when he was in the White House, if someone thought Trump was an a*hole in 2020, they thought he was an a*hole in 2016, but those voters didn't turn out in massive numbers to vote against him 4 years earlier? Yeah okay.

Maybe if the vote count was stopped in the middle of the night in 2016, perhaps Hillary Clinton would've received 81 million votes. You know, being the first women and all.
LOL is right.

1) Voting was much easier in 2020
2) people who gave Trump the benefit of the doubt in 2016 changed their minds when they realized the office would not change him
3) Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 also.
4) You, Trump and Giuliani still have no evidence of what you are talking about. At least Rudy admits it.
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Keyser Soze said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.


How much fraud is acceptable? What is the probability that Trump's lead in five swing states would begin to dissipate all within a half hour of each other?

Rural areas lean heavily R and report much sooner than Urban areas which lean D. This is no surprise and happens most every election won by a D. An election won by an R in a swing State generally leads wire to wire.




I am sorry. Five states in different time zones. All leads rapidly dissipated within minutes of each other. I don't buy it.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

boognish_bear said:


What cowards!!
Please. It is so convenient for a Democrat to say that. Maybe their case just sucked.
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Oldbear83 said:

boognish_bear said:


I don't have much use for Senator Cornyn, but if it's him or Paxton, I will hold my nose and vote for Cornyn.
Would not surprise me if Texans actually vote in a crook like Paxton over a responsible and conservative awesome Senator, but anything the RWNJ Christian element can **** up, they will.
Astros in Home Stretch Geaux Texans
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Frank Galvin said:

Rawhide said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
lol... Trump didn't change when he was in the White House, if someone thought Trump was an a*hole in 2020, they thought he was an a*hole in 2016, but those voters didn't turn out in massive numbers to vote against him 4 years earlier? Yeah okay.

Maybe if the vote count was stopped in the middle of the night in 2016, perhaps Hillary Clinton would've received 81 million votes. You know, being the first women and all.
LOL is right.

1) Voting was much easier in 2020
2) people who gave Trump the benefit of the doubt in 2016 changed their minds when they realized the office would not change him
3) Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 also.
4) You, Trump and Giuliani still have no evidence of what you are talking about. At least Rudy admits it.
Cool story. If you were Pinocchio, you'd have enough wood to last through December.
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Frank Galvin
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Keyser Soze said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.


How much fraud is acceptable? What is the probability that Trump's lead in five swing states would begin to dissipate all within a half hour of each other?

Rural areas lean heavily R and report much sooner than Urban areas which lean D. This is no surprise and happens most every election won by a D. An election won by an R in a swing State generally leads wire to wire.




I am sorry. Five states in different time zones. All leads rapidly dissipated within minutes of each other. I don't buy it.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-ap-fact-check-joe-biden-donald-trump-technology-49a24edd6d10888dbad61689c24b05a5

No one can make you understand, because you clearly do not want to. Just ask Bill Barr though.
Frank Galvin
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Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Rawhide said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
lol... Trump didn't change when he was in the White House, if someone thought Trump was an a*hole in 2020, they thought he was an a*hole in 2016, but those voters didn't turn out in massive numbers to vote against him 4 years earlier? Yeah okay.

Maybe if the vote count was stopped in the middle of the night in 2016, perhaps Hillary Clinton would've received 81 million votes. You know, being the first women and all.
LOL is right.

1) Voting was much easier in 2020
2) people who gave Trump the benefit of the doubt in 2016 changed their minds when they realized the office would not change him
3) Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 also.
4) You, Trump and Giuliani still have no evidence of what you are talking about. At least Rudy admits it.
Cool story. If you were Pinocchio, you'd have enough wood to last through December.

What evidence of fraud do you believe exists? Or do you believe it is sufficient to just pronounce yourself correct?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Frank Galvin said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Keyser Soze said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.


How much fraud is acceptable? What is the probability that Trump's lead in five swing states would begin to dissipate all within a half hour of each other?

Rural areas lean heavily R and report much sooner than Urban areas which lean D. This is no surprise and happens most every election won by a D. An election won by an R in a swing State generally leads wire to wire.




I am sorry. Five states in different time zones. All leads rapidly dissipated within minutes of each other. I don't buy it.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-ap-fact-check-joe-biden-donald-trump-technology-49a24edd6d10888dbad61689c24b05a5

No one can make you understand, because you clearly do not want to. Just ask Bill Barr though.
Oh, Frankie, if the AP says it, then it must be true. In other news, masks are effective at stopping the spread of respiratory infections. LOL!
Oldbear83
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Rawhide said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?


Big concern about that.

How does Biden's competency impact whether Trump and minions believed there was rampant vote fraud-the subject we are discussing?


Do you seriously believe 81 million real voters cast a valid vote for Joe Biden in 2020?


No.

I believe 81 million voters cast votes against Donald Trump.

Voter turnout was high because: (1) Trump is a polarizing candidate and (2) we made it much easier to vote.

Your claim was investigated by courts, legislators and DOJ investigators all under GOP control. There have been numerous recounts also led by the GOP. In Arizona it was done by people willing to say almost anything about the election.

The results: zip, zilch, nada, nothing. Trump's attorneys have copped to the falsity of their statements. Every insider who has written about it says the same thing.

Get a clue.
lol... Trump didn't change when he was in the White House, if someone thought Trump was an a*hole in 2020, they thought he was an a*hole in 2016, but those voters didn't turn out in massive numbers to vote against him 4 years earlier? Yeah okay.

Maybe if the vote count was stopped in the middle of the night in 2016, perhaps Hillary Clinton would've received 81 million votes. You know, being the first women and all.
LOL is right.

1) Voting was much easier in 2020
2) people who gave Trump the benefit of the doubt in 2016 changed their minds when they realized the office would not change him
3) Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 also.
4) You, Trump and Giuliani still have no evidence of what you are talking about. At least Rudy admits it.
Cool story. If you were Pinocchio, you'd have enough wood to last through December.

What evidence of fraud do you believe exists? Or do you believe it is sufficient to just pronounce yourself correct?
You reject anything that you don't want to be true, so that 'pronounce yourself correct' line more accurately applies to you, son.

And I don't owe you anything. This is a forum, you are an ass on politics, and those are the ground rules for our conversations.
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Keyser Soze
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Keyser Soze said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Of course not. There is always some imperfection and flaws.

A much better question is "is there material flaws in the election" ?


Well, we have video proof of 'handlers' walking ballots in the middle of the night across state lines

We know there are several states which changed their election procedures in mid-to-late 2020 without proper legislature approval

We know that the majority of challenges from Trump were rejected without review (on the claim he and other plaintiffs 'lacked standing')

We know that forensic analysts in multiple states have said historic lows in rejection of mail-in ballots were unlikely to be valid practices

We know that Trump actually increased his share of the overall popular vote percentage from 2016 to 2020, including significant increases in minority share, yet Biden allegedly won because third-party share of the vote dropped from 6.1% of all votes in 2016 to 1.9%, an anomaly inconsistent with Biden's known levels of support from 2019-2020 polling

Nothing to see here, hmm?
The key word is "material"

You know who has no problem with the Georgia results? ..... Georgia
Actually, the key word by now is 'duck'.

Just because its Trump does not mean we pretend the election was clean.


Correct-if we think there was fraud that changed the result, we present evidence of said fraud. Three years later and that has not happened.


How much fraud is acceptable? What is the probability that Trump's lead in five swing states would begin to dissipate all within a half hour of each other?

Rural areas lean heavily R and report much sooner than Urban areas which lean D. This is no surprise and happens most every election won by a D. An election won by an R in a swing State generally leads wire to wire.




I am sorry. Five states in different time zones. All leads rapidly dissipated within minutes of each other. I don't buy it.


Yes. And Oswald was working for the Russian and the CIA invented crack
 
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