House Removes Kevin McCarthy as Speaker

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Mitch Blood Green said:

whiterock said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

whiterock said:

Ho-hum. They world was gonna end when it took a few days for McCarthy to get elected. (It didn't.). Now the world is gonna end because he got removed. (It won't.). We'll have a new speaker sometime next week. Hopefully the next one will do a better job of keeping his promises to keep his caucus united.








Yeah, you're right on that one. McCarthy said "bring it on," knowing what would happen. He coulda compromised like a good moderate. But, alas, he didn't.


There was no compromise with Gaetz. Maybe he could have with the Dems.

I'd have done what McCarthy did. You can be treated like a *****.

All McCarthy had to do was keep his promises. He didn't.

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whiterock said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

whiterock said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

whiterock said:

Ho-hum. They world was gonna end when it took a few days for McCarthy to get elected. (It didn't.). Now the world is gonna end because he got removed. (It won't.). We'll have a new speaker sometime next week. Hopefully the next one will do a better job of keeping his promises to keep his caucus united.








Yeah, you're right on that one. McCarthy said "bring it on," knowing what would happen. He coulda compromised like a good moderate. But, alas, he didn't.


There was no compromise with Gaetz. Maybe he could have with the Dems.

I'd have done what McCarthy did. You can be treated like a *****.

All McCarthy had to do was keep his promises. He didn't.




McCarthy messed around and found out.

But the dollar's use to settle global trade went up. The Euro is the currency being unadopted.
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Disrupting the insider trading and perks gravy train for even a few days is such a drag for them….


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Clay is spot on. McCarthy will not be missed for a nanosecond because he had no impact on things that matter.
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He gave democrats 46% of his votes in the last 6 years.

Pelosi only gave GOP 7%..

He's corrupt and I'm glad he's gone.
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Americans are a naturally funny people

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Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to?


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.


Well the GOP just sent a message that trying to reach across the aisle and keep the Nation going is a non-starter.
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to?


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.


Well the GOP just sent a message that trying to reach across the aisle and keep the Nation going is a non-starter.


Finally.
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to?


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.


Well the GOP just sent a message that trying to reach across the aisle and keep the Nation going is a non-starter.


The Nation is bigger than the federal government especially the federal government facilitating an invasion of its own soil.
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How hilarious would it be if the Republicans elected Donald Trump to be Speaker of the House? It is a possibility. Liberal heads would explode across the country! It would be beautiful. Blue states might declare a State of Emergency and collapse to the fetal position. FEMA would be called in to help them recover from the tsunami of tears from Leftist grief and Conservative laughter.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Redbrickbear said:

chriscbear said:

Matt Gaetz and AOC coalition government ? Wow


Democrats could have saved McCarthy as speaker if they wanted….they didn't.

Let's also not act like a Pelosi-McCarthy House (similar to the ones we have had for decades) would be any better for the country than a Gaetz-AOC House.



Missed opportunity. The adults could have showed the children they are powerless. Instead they focused on their own differences.


Last time I heard that sort of condescension the Democrats were referring to putting some decaying bag of oatmeal in the Oval Office.


Matt Gaetz has earned every ounce of condescension I can muster.
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to?


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.


Well the GOP just sent a message that trying to reach across the aisle and keep the Nation going is a non-starter.


The Nation is bigger than the federal government especially the federal government facilitating an invasion of its own soil.


Try competing with China, India or even the world economy with 50 state govts doing their own thing. Fools...
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FLBear5630 said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to?


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.


Well the GOP just sent a message that trying to reach across the aisle and keep the Nation going is a non-starter.


The Nation is bigger than the federal government especially the federal government facilitating an invasion of its own soil.


Try competing with China, India or even the world economy with 50 state govts doing their own thing. Fools...
I trust the individual states. Our federal government, - not so much. Our current federal government has chosen not to compete with China or India. They are much happier destroying the U.S. oil & gas industry and putting more restrictions and regulations on American companies.

In the wise words of Pogo, "We have found the enemy, and it is us!"
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FLBear5630 said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to?


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.


Well the GOP just sent a message that trying to reach across the aisle and keep the Nation going is a non-starter.


The Nation is bigger than the federal government especially the federal government facilitating an invasion of its own soil.


Try competing with China, India or even the world economy with 50 state govts doing their own thing. Fools...


It is not working. We are being invaded and we are $33 trillion in debt. What we have been doing is not working.There is a place for the federal government but it has far exceeded its useful role and is working against the States and the people.
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Frank Galvin said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Redbrickbear said:

chriscbear said:

Matt Gaetz and AOC coalition government ? Wow


Democrats could have saved McCarthy as speaker if they wanted….they didn't.

Let's also not act like a Pelosi-McCarthy House (similar to the ones we have had for decades) would be any better for the country than a Gaetz-AOC House.



Missed opportunity. The adults could have showed the children they are powerless. Instead they focused on their own differences.


Last time I heard that sort of condescension the Democrats were referring to putting some decaying bag of oatmeal in the Oval Office.


Matt Gaetz has earned every ounce of condescension I can muster.


Bless.your.heart.
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Frank Galvin said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Redbrickbear said:

chriscbear said:

Matt Gaetz and AOC coalition government ? Wow


Democrats could have saved McCarthy as speaker if they wanted….they didn't.

Let's also not act like a Pelosi-McCarthy House (similar to the ones we have had for decades) would be any better for the country than a Gaetz-AOC House.



Missed opportunity. The adults could have showed the children they are powerless. Instead they focused on their own differences.


Last time I heard that sort of condescension the Democrats were referring to putting some decaying bag of oatmeal in the Oval Office.


Matt Gaetz has earned every ounce of condescension I can muster.

LOl As opposed to everyone else who gets it gratuitously.
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FLBear5630 said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to?


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.


Well the GOP just sent a message that trying to reach across the aisle and keep the Nation going is a non-starter.


The Nation is bigger than the federal government especially the federal government facilitating an invasion of its own soil.


Try competing with China, India or even the world economy with 50 state govts doing their own thing. Fools...


1. India is a union of sovereign states as well.

28 specific States….with broad powers and even their own official languages.

Hell Uttar Pradesh has 240 million people

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_union_territories_of_India

Stop acting like Federalism is a problem to be over come and that central power is the only way to get things done.

2. China is a corrupt one party state that needs USA & EU companies to make cheap stuff there to give their people jobs…and needs the high income citizens in the USA & EU to purchase their products.

It's also got a fertility rate well below replacement rate.

And is losing 800,000 citizens a year. The population will drop by more than half by the end of the century.

And within 20 years it's larger cohort of working age population will be heading into retirement with no one to replace them in the work force.

The idea that China is going to over come the USA-EU alliance is scare mongering of the most extreme kind.




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Everyone is getting their resumes together

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Chip Roy?
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New video of this group of Republicans.

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Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to? Let me help you, it isn't there. With periodic variances, the trend line for wealth in all classes is up consistently. We succeed in spite of government, yet here we have parallel tracks from both sides of the aisle of class warfare. It takes prosperity to wallow in its advantages like the complaints we hear. I used to be able to lambast the liberals for it, yet here we are.


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.
It isn't how we look, it's how we act. Partnering along side the class warfare warriors will get us to acting like them quicker than any demographic change. That's the danger of being a society seeking comfort over prosperity.


lol demographic change is far far more important than any of your worries about "class warfare".

No one is coming for your precious money…not yet

But as ANC ruled South Africa has shown….eventual it will come to that.

The USA will have land redistribution programs and racial employment quotas within 30 years.
We already have and have had that. And ironically, both South Africa…. there was no mass demographic change.


Uh? You sure about that?





Pretty equivalent ratios following population growth. So yeah.
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Frank Galvin said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Frank Galvin said:

Redbrickbear said:

chriscbear said:

Matt Gaetz and AOC coalition government ? Wow


Democrats could have saved McCarthy as speaker if they wanted….they didn't.

Let's also not act like a Pelosi-McCarthy House (similar to the ones we have had for decades) would be any better for the country than a Gaetz-AOC House.



Missed opportunity. The adults could have showed the children they are powerless. Instead they focused on their own differences.


Last time I heard that sort of condescension the Democrats were referring to putting some decaying bag of oatmeal in the Oval Office.


Matt Gaetz has earned every ounce of condescension I can muster.
The real radicals in this country are people who think the status quo is normal.

Gaetz at least challenged the status quo. You support it?
This whole "let's take the high ground" against democrats is destroying our country. It's time to fight and tell democrats to shove it.
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Doc Holliday said:


Patrick McHenry: "Give me that office, or give me death!" (bangs gavel on Pelosi's door)
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ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to? Let me help you, it isn't there. With periodic variances, the trend line for wealth in all classes is up consistently. We succeed in spite of government, yet here we have parallel tracks from both sides of the aisle of class warfare. It takes prosperity to wallow in its advantages like the complaints we hear. I used to be able to lambast the liberals for it, yet here we are.


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.
It isn't how we look, it's how we act. Partnering along side the class warfare warriors will get us to acting like them quicker than any demographic change. That's the danger of being a society seeking comfort over prosperity.


lol demographic change is far far more important than any of your worries about "class warfare".

No one is coming for your precious money…not yet

But as ANC ruled South Africa has shown….eventual it will come to that.

The USA will have land redistribution programs and racial employment quotas within 30 years.
We already have and have had that. And ironically, both South Africa…. there was no mass demographic change.


Uh? You sure about that?





Pretty equivalent ratios following population growth. So yeah.


And thus bringing about large demographic change….

Not sure why you won't take the L on this topic.

At the beginning of the last century Whites were almost a 1/3rd of the population of SA…today they are 7%

SA changed via massive differences in birth rates.

The USA is changing because its ruling class is importing in millions of people a year form the 3rd world.

The end result is the same….the dysfunctional and class/race based politics you claim to fear and loath.

You are watching it develop before you very eyes and all you do is carp about the situation or those who dare point it out.
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I wonder if McHenry will sit in her chair and put his feet on her desk?
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Doc Holliday said:




Childish behavior by the acting speaker of the house.

House Republicans need to get over their collective butt hurt and stop acting like kindergarteners.

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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:




Childish behavior by the acting speaker of the house.

House Republicans need to get over their collective butt hurt and stop acting like kindergarteners.




Did she have a right to that office yes or no?

Seriously, what's the rule here and the precedent on a former speaker of the opposition party getting the plush office?

Is that normal?
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The real issue is that had McCarthy been "Speaker of the House," not "Speaker of the Republican House", he'd still have the job. 8 Republicans is not enough to expel him but it is enough for 212 or so Republicans to see they don't have a voice unless they take back control in a bipartisan fashion.

I see "Trump for Speaker" folks. Are there 217 Republicans for this? I don't see it. I can see 10 Republicans + Dems for Jeffries or Dems + 35 Republicans for someone like Lawler.

I can see a discharge petition that brings a budget to the floor that gets Ukraine funding and a bipartisan budget without far right representatives.

All this glee only works if Republicans remain nonpartisan. As soon as some start working with their countrymen, all this goes away.

I agree with Gaetz that McCarthy isn't trustworthy. But he removed him without a plan.
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Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

ATL Bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

The country is burning down around us and all the Republicans can do is act like mean girls at a slumber party. All the while, the Dems are laughing. Not a good look.


You act like McCarthy and the establishment faction of the GOP was going to do anything to stop that or help the country anyway.

All they want to do is pass tax cuts for the wealthy and fund the Ukraine war.

Just one small Symbolic thing…during the race riots and violence of the summer of Floyd the last speaker Pelosi removed various portraits from the Capitol of past speakers and important historic southern congressmen.

McCarthy did not even put them back up.

The GOP is a joke and refuses to even symbolically support it's voter base.
As opposed to this loser "poor me" populism that carries the same message as liberal socialism and "blame the rich" siren song? I mean I can't believe people keeping more of one's own money, regardless of economic status, was such a bad thing. We became a great country because we don't coddle average, yet here we are trying to champion being average. How is that "making America great"? What reference point of prosperity and wealth are we referring back to? Let me help you, it isn't there. With periodic variances, the trend line for wealth in all classes is up consistently. We succeed in spite of government, yet here we have parallel tracks from both sides of the aisle of class warfare. It takes prosperity to wallow in its advantages like the complaints we hear. I used to be able to lambast the liberals for it, yet here we are.


As America begins to look more like South Africa or Venezuela…it will begin to act more like them.

The age of affluence in the USA is coming to an end…so is the age of being a high trust society.

Get used to it.

And no amount of libertarianism or "cutting regulations" or arguing about the ideal tax rate is gonna cure that.
It isn't how we look, it's how we act. Partnering along side the class warfare warriors will get us to acting like them quicker than any demographic change. That's the danger of being a society seeking comfort over prosperity.


lol demographic change is far far more important than any of your worries about "class warfare".

No one is coming for your precious money…not yet

But as ANC ruled South Africa has shown….eventual it will come to that.

The USA will have land redistribution programs and racial employment quotas within 30 years.
We already have and have had that. And ironically, both South Africa…. there was no mass demographic change.


Uh? You sure about that?





Pretty equivalent ratios following population growth. So yeah.


And thus bringing about large demographic change….

Not sure why you won't take the L on this topic.

At the beginning of the last century Whites were almost a 1/3rd of the population of SA…today they are 7%

SA changed via massive differences in birth rates.

The USA is changing because its ruling class is importing in millions of people a year form the 3rd world.

The end result is the same….the dysfunctional and class/race based politics you claim to fear and loath.

You are watching it develop before you very eyes and all you do is carp about the situation or those who dare point it out.

The white population in SA grew, ironically, due to immigration. After Apartheid it shrunk due to emigration, meanwhile black immigration increased post Apartheid. Class warfare crosses all demographics, and race is simply a tool used to spark the emotions to garner support for it.

And if you believe there is a "ruling class", then that's your own subjugation of choice. Now that's a real L.
 
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