You talking about the Romans or the Greeks?ron.reagan said:
Imagine living in a place for a few thousand years and some western metrosexuals accuse you of colonizing it
Netanyahu said "we are at war,"
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But beheaded Jewish babies...that's a more nuanced issue?
In 2019, Rep. Rashida Tlaib got emotional at a hearing on migrant children being separated from their parents at the border, & called it “traumatic” and “inhumane”.
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) October 11, 2023
Today, she had no comment, and no reaction when asked about Israeli children being beheaded by Hamas terrorists. https://t.co/nb0M1bXReQ pic.twitter.com/bU3EUERZSA
MSNBC: Let me show you this map to explain why beheading babies isn't as bad as you think and actually a talking point of white supremacistsJack Bauer said:
But beheaded Jewish babies...that's a more nuanced issue?In 2019, Rep. Rashida Tlaib got emotional at a hearing on migrant children being separated from their parents at the border, & called it “traumatic” and “inhumane”.
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) October 11, 2023
Today, she had no comment, and no reaction when asked about Israeli children being beheaded by Hamas terrorists. https://t.co/nb0M1bXReQ pic.twitter.com/bU3EUERZSA
Moses led the Israelites to the Holy Land. They had a presence there for more or less 2000 years. Around 100 AD at the time of the second Jewish Revolt, the Roman empire basically extinguisihed the Jewish presence in the Holy Land. 500,000 dead, laws against Jews going to Jerusalem or Judea, and the entire region renamed Syria Palestina. At the time of the 1878 Ottoman Census of Jerusalem and Judea it was recorded that Jews constituted only 3.2% of the population. The majority were Muslims, followed by Christians.
So about 2000 years of a Jewish Kingdom there, and roughly the same amount of time without any significant Jewish presence. Then there is the separate question of if the majority population of modern Israel constitutes the same people group that followed Moses out of Egypt which is debatable.
That's a lot of water under that particular bridge and Christians would do well not to meddle in that conflict, Lindsey (Hal or Graham) and Scofield notwithstanding.
So about 2000 years of a Jewish Kingdom there, and roughly the same amount of time without any significant Jewish presence. Then there is the separate question of if the majority population of modern Israel constitutes the same people group that followed Moses out of Egypt which is debatable.
That's a lot of water under that particular bridge and Christians would do well not to meddle in that conflict, Lindsey (Hal or Graham) and Scofield notwithstanding.
Wrong. Over half of Israeli Jews descend from the Arab nations, Iran, and Africa. Jews in total are only 73% of Israel's population. Arabs are around 23% of Israel's population. Hundreds of thousands more work there.Redbrickbear said:
"European settlers coming to a foreign land, settling there, and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
"The last paradox is that the tale of Palestine from the beginning until today is a simple story of colonialism and dispossession, yet the world treats it as a multifaceted and complex storyhard to understand and even harder to solve." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
Quite the opposite, Palestine, Arab countries, and Iran have virtually no Jews. That is mostly because they were forced out.
Palestinians themselves can from all over the Arab world and even beyond.
ron.reagan said:MSNBC: Let me show you this map to explain why beheading babies isn't as bad as you think and actually a talking point of white supremacistsJack Bauer said:
But beheaded Jewish babies...that's a more nuanced issue?In 2019, Rep. Rashida Tlaib got emotional at a hearing on migrant children being separated from their parents at the border, & called it “traumatic” and “inhumane”.
— Bill Melugin (@BillMelugin_) October 11, 2023
Today, she had no comment, and no reaction when asked about Israeli children being beheaded by Hamas terrorists. https://t.co/nb0M1bXReQ pic.twitter.com/bU3EUERZSA
Link?
sombear said:Wrong. Over half of Israeli Jews descend from the Arab nations…Redbrickbear said:
"European settlers coming to a foreign land, settling there, and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
"The last paradox is that the tale of Palestine from the beginning until today is a simple story of colonialism and dispossession, yet the world treats it as a multifaceted and complex storyhard to understand and even harder to solve." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
Seems about right…
[from a 2019 study, in a sample meant to be representative of the Israeli Jewish population, about 44.9% percent of Israel's Jewish population were categorized as Mizrahi (defined as having grandparents born in North Africa or Asia), 31.8% were categorized as Ashkenazi (defined as having grandparents born in Europe, the Americas), 12.4% as "Soviet" (defined as having progenitors who came from the ex-USSR in 1989 or later), about 3% as Beta Israel.
Redbrickbear said:
"European settlers coming to a foreign land, settling there, and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
"The last paradox is that the tale of Palestine from the beginning until today is a simple story of colonialism and dispossession, yet the world treats it as a multifaceted and complex storyhard to understand and even harder to solve." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
Wow.
You are actuality quoting Chomsky? The same guy who sang the praises of Pol Pot.
Chomsky is wrong on almost every controversial topic.
If this is your source of info, it explains why you are so terribly wrong in this topic.
Chomsky is a fervent communist who simply couldn't allow himself to believe the evidence of communist atrocities. This has always been his MO. He makes statements based upon his Marxist values, in spite of evidence to the contrary. He is a fully unreliable source of information.
ShooterTX
And, for those who haven't been to Israel, when you walk around you could be in any moderate Arab country given the number of Arabs and also the Jews who share that resemblance.Redbrickbear said:sombear said:Wrong. Over half of Israeli Jews descend from the Arab nations…Redbrickbear said:
"European settlers coming to a foreign land, settling there, and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
"The last paradox is that the tale of Palestine from the beginning until today is a simple story of colonialism and dispossession, yet the world treats it as a multifaceted and complex storyhard to understand and even harder to solve." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
Seems about right…
[from a 2019 study, in a sample meant to be representative of the Israeli Jewish population, about 44.9% percent of Israel's Jewish population were categorized as Mizrahi (defined as having grandparents born in North Africa or Asia), 31.8% were categorized as Ashkenazi (defined as having grandparents born in Europe, the Americas), 12.4% as "Soviet" (defined as having progenitors who came from the ex-USSR in 1989 or later), about 3% as Beta Israel.
I can’t count how many times I was lectured about microaggressions at Harvard. Those same people are now on their timelines glorifying Hamas for deadly, inhumane, terroristic aggression. The double standard is baffling.
— Carine Hajjar (@carinehajjar2) October 10, 2023
Redbrickbear said:
"European settlers coming to a foreign land, settling there, and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
"The last paradox is that the tale of Palestine from the beginning until today is a simple story of colonialism and dispossession, yet the world treats it as a multifaceted and complex storyhard to understand and even harder to solve." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
What does Palestinian ***** taste like?
Palestinian Flag Outside Rashida Tlaib's Office Seen Throwing Pride Flag Off The Roof https://t.co/L0vr5PHlGf pic.twitter.com/ms6AYcnofh
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 12, 2023
I had that same argument about 18 months ago re: Russia/Ukraine when I got a full bore Chomsky sangwich as a response.ShooterTX said:Redbrickbear said:
"European settlers coming to a foreign land, settling there, and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
"The last paradox is that the tale of Palestine from the beginning until today is a simple story of colonialism and dispossession, yet the world treats it as a multifaceted and complex storyhard to understand and even harder to solve." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
Wow.
You are actuality quoting Chomsky? The same guy who sang the praises of Pol Pot.
Chomsky is wrong on almost every controversial topic.
If this is your source of info, it explains why you are so terribly wrong in this topic.
Chomsky is a fervent communist who simply couldn't allow himself to believe the evidence of communist atrocities. This has always been his MO. He makes statements based upon his Marxist values, in spite of evidence to the contrary. He is a fully unreliable source of information.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
sombear said:And, for those who haven't been to Israel, when you walk around you could be in any moderate Arab country given the number of Arabs and also the Jews who share that resemblance.Redbrickbear said:sombear said:Wrong. Over half of Israeli Jews descend from the Arab nations…Redbrickbear said:
"European settlers coming to a foreign land, settling there, and either committing genocide against or expelling the indigenous people. The Zionists have not invented anything new in this respect." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
"The last paradox is that the tale of Palestine from the beginning until today is a simple story of colonialism and dispossession, yet the world treats it as a multifaceted and complex storyhard to understand and even harder to solve." -Noam Chomsky, On Palestine
Seems about right…
[from a 2019 study, in a sample meant to be representative of the Israeli Jewish population, about 44.9% percent of Israel's Jewish population were categorized as Mizrahi (defined as having grandparents born in North Africa or Asia), 31.8% were categorized as Ashkenazi (defined as having grandparents born in Europe, the Americas), 12.4% as "Soviet" (defined as having progenitors who came from the ex-USSR in 1989 or later), about 3% as Beta Israel.
They are essentially genetic cousins
This is like Cows for Butchers.
Does somebody want to tell them?
Does somebody want to tell them?
Jack Bauer said:
This is like Cows for Butchers.
Does somebody want to tell them?
Yea
They really should be rooting for Israel
Redbrickbear said:Jack Bauer said:
This is like Cows for Butchers.
Does somebody want to tell them?
Yea
They really should be rooting for Israel
שלח לכולם pic.twitter.com/XAHZE8VpAg
— Gad 🇮🇱 (@GadDafna) October 11, 2023
Cobretti said:I realize it's early on Saturday morning and Biden sleeps in, but this is the sort of thing you wake presidents up for.
— Brent Scher (@BrentScher) October 7, 2023
Statement from the USA should be from him, not an NSC comms staffer. pic.twitter.com/E3FKYit2pa
Ironically funny. The last person we want answering they call is any democrat. They helped fund the terrorists by giving money to Iran. Hillary also has Benghazi on her record. Not exactly an example of leadership.
The Iron Dome missile defense system intercepts hundreds of rockets fired at Iraels cities tonight. pic.twitter.com/E81GZzOcX7
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) October 12, 2023
A legendary statement from the President of the University of Florida: pic.twitter.com/XsTQ2tOTha
— Chris Bakke (@ChrisJBakke) October 12, 2023
It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
Senior Hamas Official Ali Baraka: We Have Been Secretly Planning the Invasion for Two Years; Russia Sympathizes with Us, Benefits from U.S. Embroilment in This War; Any Swap Deal Should Include Hamas Prisoners in Europe and the U.S. #Hamas #Russia #Israel_under_attack pic.twitter.com/JNGQotkKg5
— MEMRI (@MEMRIReports) October 11, 2023
video worth a watch. Hamas leader directly references Biden's Iranian prisoner ransom as an example of what they can now do
Osodecentx said:whiterock said:Think on that part in bold for a while. (it is an indirect way to keep the pressure on Israel....saddle Israel with a defacto refugee problem).Osodecentx said:There are 2 million people in Gaza Strip. Where do they go? None of the other Arab countries want them. You can't (shouldn't) kill all of them.FLBear5630 said:Not sure if the Merkava's will be handy in Gaza, can control crossings and intersections, but armor in urban densities like that will be tough. If anyone knows how to use them for an advantage, it is the IDF.Wrecks Quan Dough said:I imagine looking at the wrong end of a Merkava is not real fun.FLBear5630 said:Didn't turn out well for ISIS. Worst things these groups can do is think they are grown up militaries. They have no idea. Being an expert on guerilla hit and run is a much different world than when they decide to get serious a break out real mech infantry and air power.KaiBear said:Jack Bauer said:Ane every execution of a civilian will be met by Israel with 50 missiles into Gaza....hows that gonna turn out ?Osodecentx said:The spokesman for Hamas's military wing, Abu Obeida, has threatened to execute a civilian hostage every time an airstrike hits "Gazans in their homes without warning." Hamas is believed to be holding about 150 Israelis hostage.Redbrickbear said:Jack Bauer said:
Hamas threatening to execute hostages which would only escalate Israel's decimation on Gaza.
Hamas has a proven track record of making incredibility dumb and evil decisions that bring the full might of the Israeli military machine down on the Palestinian population.
Note the use of the word "regrettably"
"From this moment on, we announce that every targeting of our people who are safe in their houses, without prior warning, we will regrettably meet with the execution of one of the enemy's civilian hostages that we have," Abu Obaida said in a message broadcast on Al Jazeera.
Hamas has been reading the ISIS play book.
Hope Israel eradicates these animals.
I think this will give Israel to take Gaza and consolidate more into Israel. It will be in or out, but under more Israeli control.
"Where do they go" has an easy answer: Look at the demographics of Jordan.
Why would Jordan take them? Wouldn't that give Hamas a bigger base from which to attack?
A short history: TheIsraeli-Palestinian conflictdates back to the end of the nineteenth century. In 1947, the United Nations adoptedResolution 181, known as the Partition Plan, which sought to divide the British Mandate of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states. On May 14, 1948, the State of Israel was created, sparking the first Arab-Israeli War. The war ended in 1949 with Israel's victory, but 750,000 Palestinians were displaced, and the territory was divided into 3 parts: the State of Israel, the West Bank (of the Jordan River), and the Gaza Strip.
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/israeli-palestinian-conflict
The whole area used to be "Palestine." The Arabs there are all the same people. The division between Jews and Palestinians has already happened. What we now know as Israel is for the Jews. What we now know as Jordan is the Palestinian state. The West bank was lost by Jordan to Israel in war. Jordan renounced its claim. Israel is settling it and Jews have an effective demographic parity. Gaza is an outlying enclave. Move the 2m Gazans over to Jordan. Problem solved.
Israel appears to be making Gaza unliveable. Destroying all structures, eliminating water & power hookups. Gazans are going to have to be come refugees somewhere...... If they don't want to join their fellow Palestinians in Jordan (as a couple million already have over the years), then ship them off to asylum on one of the Indonesian islands. Tropical paradise in an islamic country. Everybody's problem is solved. They can settle there, or they can return to the existing Palestinian state - Palestine.
Prediction: The international community is going to allow the settlement process to continue in the WB, because Israel is not defensible without controlling the WB. Palestinians there can accept Israeli citizenship (as have 2m already), or they can move to live with fellow Palestinians in Jordan. That much is obvious. Gaza...we will have to wait & see if Israel is going to do what I mentioned above....make it unliveable to force out everyone.
Jordan is the Palestinian state. Has a Hashemite King, but otherwise, it's Palestine.
such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
You're defending Fuentes? I'm surprised
Osodecentx said:whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
You're defending Fuentes? I'm surprised
Thanks for giving us an example of the pathological thinking of the self-styled moderate neverTrumper (a contradiction in terms of there ever was one) = harping on a contrived controversy involving a screeching troll that very few people have ever heard about rather than dealing with real current problems, like the broad support enjoyed in this country for a terror group that just slaughtered over a thousand innocents in the cradle of Judeo-Christian culture. In case you missed it, Hamas is the first world government to achieve net zero.
Congrats to Gaza on reaching Net Zero carbon emissions way ahead of schedule https://t.co/NxEhqTt1w0
— Magills (@magills_) October 11, 2023
Both hilarious and completely accurate.Jack Bauer said:Redbrickbear said:Jack Bauer said:
This is like Cows for Butchers.
Does somebody want to tell them?
Yea
They really should be rooting for Israelשלח לכולם pic.twitter.com/XAHZE8VpAg
— Gad 🇮🇱 (@GadDafna) October 11, 2023
Translation:whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
Well, perhaps a dumb thing for Trump to say, but look at the bouncing ball over here!!!
BTW, I think this post will go down in posterity as the first critical thing you've said about Trump (sort of) on this board.
He's such a petty POS. How in the hell is this guy up in the polls?Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
Meantime, some Republicans have no problem distancing themselves from Fuentes, the Adolph Hitler admirer.. You could learn a thing or 2 from them.whiterock said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
You're defending Fuentes? I'm surprised
Thanks for giving us an example of the pathological thinking of the self-styled moderate neverTrumper (a contradiction in terms of there ever was one) = harping on a contrived controversy involving a screeching troll that very few people have ever heard about rather than dealing with real current problems, like the broad support enjoyed in this country for a terror group that just slaughtered over a thousand innocents in the cradle of Judeo-Christian culture.
Dan Patrick says PAC leader's meeting with white supremacist was a "blunder," but will keep group's $3 million contribution
Patrick said Wednesday that he spoke to Dunn, who "told me unequivocally that it was a serious blunder" for Stickland to meet with Fuentes, and assured him that the political action committee would have no "future contact" with the well-known white supremacist and Adolf Hitler admirer.
Dunn "stated emphatically that everyone at the PAC understands that mistakes were made and are being corrected," Patrick said. "I accept Mr. Dunn at his word. I know him to be a man of integrity and an avid and staunch supporter of Israel."
Fuentes has frequently praised Hitler and questioned if the Holocaust happened. He has called for "holy war" against Jews, said he wants the United States under authoritarian, "Catholic Taliban rule" and fantasized about marrying a 16-year-old when he is older because that's "right when the milk is good." He has said that he would beat a "disrespectful" woman so hard that she would collapse like a building on Sept. 11, 2001. And he has routinely pushed conspiracy theories that claim there is an intentional, Jewish-driven effort to replace white people through immigration, interracial marriage and the LGBTQ+ community.
"All I want is revenge against my enemies and a total Aryan victory," Fuentes said last year.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/11/jared-patterson-nick-fuentes-defend-texas-liberty-jonathan-stickland/
Do you remember Matt Rinaldi? Isn't he chairman of the Republican Party of Texas? Rhey have no problem denouncing the Hitler admirer.
Kyle Rittenhouse and Matt Rinaldi responded to our report, saying they did not know Fuentes would be there, and they did not personally meet with him. They both denounced him, without addressing Stickland.
All Israel's fault...
BREAKING: Reuters reports that Egypt has rejected the setting up of safe corridors for refugees fleeing the Gaza Strip
— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) October 12, 2023
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
While I would agree that Phelan has all the attributes of a beach ball, I certainly did not intend to be critical of Trump here. Rather of his critics, who are making a manifestly silly point. Hizballah is most assuredly a very capable organization. Before 9/11, they were at the top of the "most Americans killed" list. I spent the first few years of my career collecting against that target. One of my sources had big divots on his torso from healed-over Hizballah bullet holes. He was Shia, but tried to do his job (Lebanese govt). Paid a big price for it.. Hizballah is a very smart, serious, capable organization. Nothing wrong with taking an adversary seriously, which Trump opponents never seem to do and for that reason launch on attacks that usually do more damage to themselves than to Trump (as is the case in this particular instance.)Mothra said:Translation:whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
Well, perhaps a dumb thing for Trump to say, but look at the bouncing ball over here!!!
BTW, I think this post will go down in posterity as the first critical thing you've said about Trump (sort of) on this board.
whiterock said:While I would agree that Phelan has all the attributes of a beach ball, I certainly did not intend to be critical of Trump here. Rather of his critics, who are making a manifestly silly point. Hizballah is most assuredly a very capable organization. Before 9/11, they were at the top of the "most Americans killed" list. I spent the first few years of my career collecting against that target. One of my sources had big divots on his torso from healed-over Hizballah bullet holes. He was Shia, but tried to do his job (Lebanese govt). Paid a big price for it.. Hizballah is a very smart, serious, capable organization. Nothing wrong with taking an adversary seriously, which Trump opponents never seem to do and for that reason launch on attacks that usually do more damage to themselves than to Trump (as is the case in this particular instance.)Mothra said:Translation:whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
Well, perhaps a dumb thing for Trump to say, but look at the bouncing ball over here!!!
BTW, I think this post will go down in posterity as the first critical thing you've said about Trump (sort of) on this board.
I can't think of a reason to meet with a nutjob like Fuentes either. And I haven't. Nor have I ever had anything to do with Stickland or that PAC. So I have nothing to denounce, other than your incessant efforts to tie me to all that nonsense, which reflects far more poorly on you than anything I have said or done here = the same kind of muckraking the aforementioned people do.Osodecentx said:Meantime, some Republicans have no problem distancing themselves from Fuentes, the Adolph Hitler admirer.. You could learn a thing or 2 from them.whiterock said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
You're defending Fuentes? I'm surprised
Thanks for giving us an example of the pathological thinking of the self-styled moderate neverTrumper (a contradiction in terms of there ever was one) = harping on a contrived controversy involving a screeching troll that very few people have ever heard about rather than dealing with real current problems, like the broad support enjoyed in this country for a terror group that just slaughtered over a thousand innocents in the cradle of Judeo-Christian culture.
Dan Patrick says PAC leader's meeting with white supremacist was a "blunder," but will keep group's $3 million contribution
Patrick said Wednesday that he spoke to Dunn, who "told me unequivocally that it was a serious blunder" for Stickland to meet with Fuentes, and assured him that the political action committee would have no "future contact" with the well-known white supremacist and Adolf Hitler admirer.
Dunn "stated emphatically that everyone at the PAC understands that mistakes were made and are being corrected," Patrick said. "I accept Mr. Dunn at his word. I know him to be a man of integrity and an avid and staunch supporter of Israel."
Fuentes has frequently praised Hitler and questioned if the Holocaust happened. He has called for "holy war" against Jews, said he wants the United States under authoritarian, "Catholic Taliban rule" and fantasized about marrying a 16-year-old when he is older because that's "right when the milk is good." He has said that he would beat a "disrespectful" woman so hard that she would collapse like a building on Sept. 11, 2001. And he has routinely pushed conspiracy theories that claim there is an intentional, Jewish-driven effort to replace white people through immigration, interracial marriage and the LGBTQ+ community.
"All I want is revenge against my enemies and a total Aryan victory," Fuentes said last year.
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/10/11/jared-patterson-nick-fuentes-defend-texas-liberty-jonathan-stickland/
Do you remember Matt Rinaldi? Isn't he chairman of the Republican Party of Texas? Rhey have no problem denouncing the Hitler admirer.
Kyle Rittenhouse and Matt Rinaldi responded to our report, saying they did not know Fuentes would be there, and they did not personally meet with him. They both denounced him, without addressing Stickland.
I'm still waiting for you to go after the terrorists and their supporters here in this country, instead of making a round mouth for Phelan's divisive nonsense. It's almost like he's desperate to distract from his own difficulties. Notice, I'm not demanding you to DO anything. Just observing what you actually are doing and making appropriate conclusions. It's quite amusing to see a so-called moderate engaging in the same kind ****-stirring he criticizes those to the right him of doing. That's the central irony of the partisan moderate - they don't believe in anything terribly strongly except that they don't like people who do and will do anything to stop them, to include burning down the house, as Phelan has tried to do TWICE this year.
So, takeaway from this post is:whiterock said:While I would agree that Phelan has all the attributes of a beach ball, I certainly did not intend to be critical of Trump here. Rather of his critics, who are making a manifestly silly point. Hizballah is most assuredly a very capable organization. Before 9/11, they were at the top of the "most Americans killed" list. I spent the first few years of my career collecting against that target. One of my sources had big divots on his torso from healed-over Hizballah bullet holes. He was Shia, but tried to do his job (Lebanese govt). Paid a big price for it.. Hizballah is a very smart, serious, capable organization. Nothing wrong with taking an adversary seriously, which Trump opponents never seem to do and for that reason launch on attacks that usually do more damage to themselves than to Trump (as is the case in this particular instance.)Mothra said:Translation:whiterock said:such attacks make the attacker look profoundly stupid.Redbrickbear said:It's hilarious when Republicans try to attack one another for not Standing With Israel hard enough. They all have the exact same position, so must desperately latch onto trivial turns of phrase like it means anything. Yeah, I'm sure Trump is a huge fan of Hezbollah https://t.co/9tijSKau7Q
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 12, 2023
and then there's Dade Phelan, who is attacking Nick Fuentes.
Well, perhaps a dumb thing for Trump to say, but look at the bouncing ball over here!!!
BTW, I think this post will go down in posterity as the first critical thing you've said about Trump (sort of) on this board.
1) To clarify, you did NOT intend to be critical of Trump but instead the messenger who reported what Trump said. Gotcha. So you record of never-having criticized Trump remains intact.
2) The messenger is "profoundly stupid" for repeating Trump's words; and
3) You are going to ignore what Trump said about Israel after its 9/11, with women and children slaughtered, and merely focus on his comments about Hizballah.
Of course. Classic, whiterock.