KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Millions more just like these filing pigs.



Israel is doomed .

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They have at least 400 nukes and a 1st world economy and military.

Why would they be doomed?

Their largest neighbor Egypt (who is about as militarily competent as Mexico) even has a peace treaty with them that they have honored since 1979

Not only that....but fertility rates are a major sign of if your nation has a future. And Israel has a fertility rate of 3.0 (while most of the Europe and N. America are below replacement).

Israel's population is growing...with ultra-orthodox growing very fast.

[Israel's population will surge by 70 percent, to almost 16 million, by 2050, with the ultra-Orthodox accounting for about a third of all Israeli Jews]

How are they doomed? Can you name a European country that is going to have 70% population growth over the next 30 years and a 3.0 fertility rate? Its all the countries in Europe that you should be worried about...not Israel.

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Israel does not have anything approaching 400 nukes.

And what nukes they do have are unusable for all practical purposes due to their country's small size and vulnerability to nuclear retaliation.

Israel remains surrounded by Muslim populations who hate them irregardless what treaties their leadership signs.

Muslim populations in the region are expanding far more rapidly than Jewish populations.

And Israel's own people are racked by increasing division.

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historian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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So we have a ceasefire and then what...nothing until Hamas attacks again.

Actions have consequences.

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Sometimes inaction does as well. I trust Israel will make wise decisions while ignoring the white noise from fascists like Obama & many in the UN. They are antisemitism so their opinion is worthless.

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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So we have a ceasefire and then what...nothing until Hamas attacks again.

Actions have consequences.

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Sometimes inaction does as well. I trust Israel will make wise decisions while ignoring the white noise from fascists like Obama & many in the UN. They are antisemitism so their opinion is worthless.

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Nothing is moving in or out of Gaza without the IDF knowing it. One thing about the Israeli's they are not going to put their security at risk for anyone.

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Jack Bauer said:

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The IDF just screened 43 minutes of horrors from the Hamas massacre on October 7 for foreign journalists. I was not there, my colleague @cjkeller8 was.

Here is the one minute of footage approved for mass publication at this point, barring most of it out of respect for the dead. pic.twitter.com/UDmQSrkYBL

— Amy Spiro (@AmySpiro) October 23, 2023

The footage @cjkeller8 can describe but is too gruesome to publish:

"A man writhes on the ground, bleeding, as a terrorist tries to decapitate him with farm equipment... a decapitated soldier, charred human remains.. a pile of dead bodies in a shelter."https://t.co/QTaivXUqWb

— Amy Spiro (@AmySpiro) October 23, 2023

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Redbrickbear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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So we have a ceasefire and then what...nothing until Hamas attacks again.

Actions have consequences.

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Sometimes inaction does as well. I trust Israel will make wise decisions while ignoring the white noise from fascists like Obama & many in the UN. They are antisemitism so their opinion is worthless.

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Nothing is moving in or out of Gaza without the IDF knowing it. One thing about the Israeli's they are not going to put their security at risk for anyone.

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How the hell did they get caught sleeping in the first place is what I want to know.

They had Gaza surrounded by barbed wire and Concrete walls and military outposts and 24-7 reconnaissance.

How did a break out of Hamas fighters even occur and how the hell did they get more than a few steps in Israel without tanks and attack helicopters from the IDF swarming down on them.

Hamas fighters penetrated deep into Israeli territory and were seemly able to rampage at will for two days.....how the Hell does that happen?

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Religious wars are stupid.

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Millions more just like these filing pigs.



Israel is doomed .

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They have at least 400 nukes and a 1st world economy and military.

Why would they be doomed?

Their largest neighbor Egypt (who is about as militarily competent as Mexico) even has a peace treaty with them that they have honored since 1979

Not only that....but fertility rates are a major sign of if your nation has a future. And Israel has a fertility rate of 3.0 (while most of the Europe and N. America are below replacement).

Israel's population is growing...with ultra-orthodox growing very fast.

[Israel's population will surge by 70 percent, to almost 16 million, by 2050, with the ultra-Orthodox accounting for about a third of all Israeli Jews]

How are they doomed? Can you name a European country that is going to have 70% population growth over the next 30 years and a 3.0 fertility rate? Its all the countries in Europe that you should be worried about...not Israel.

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Israel does not have anything approaching 400 nukes.

And what nukes they do have are unusable for all practical purposes due to their country's small size and vulnerability to nuclear retaliation.

Israel remains surrounded by Muslim populations who hate them irregardless what treaties their leadership signs.

Muslim populations in the region are expanding far more rapidly than Jewish populations.

And Israel's own people are racked by increasing division.

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Millions more just like these filing pigs.



Israel is doomed .

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They have at least 400 nukes and a 1st world economy and military.

Why would they be doomed?

Their largest neighbor Egypt (who is about as militarily competent as Mexico) even has a peace treaty with them that they have honored since 1979

Not only that....but fertility rates are a major sign of if your nation has a future. And Israel has a fertility rate of 3.0 (while most of the Europe and N. America are below replacement).

Israel's population is growing...with ultra-orthodox growing very fast.

[Israel's population will surge by 70 percent, to almost 16 million, by 2050, with the ultra-Orthodox accounting for about a third of all Israeli Jews]

How are they doomed? Can you name a European country that is going to have 70% population growth over the next 30 years and a 3.0 fertility rate? Its all the countries in Europe that you should be worried about...not Israel.

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Israel does not have anything approaching 400 nukes.

And what nukes they do have are unusable for all practical purposes due to their country's small size and vulnerability to nuclear retaliation.

Israel remains surrounded by Muslim populations who hate them irregardless what treaties their leadership signs.

Muslim populations in the region are expanding far more rapidly than Jewish populations.

And Israel's own people are racked by increasing division.

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Israel probably has around 50 nukes.

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Millions more just like these filing pigs.



Israel is doomed .

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They have at least 400 nukes and a 1st world economy and military.

Why would they be doomed?

Their largest neighbor Egypt (who is about as militarily competent as Mexico) even has a peace treaty with them that they have honored since 1979

Not only that....but fertility rates are a major sign of if your nation has a future. And Israel has a fertility rate of 3.0 (while most of the Europe and N. America are below replacement).

Israel's population is growing...with ultra-orthodox growing very fast.

[Israel's population will surge by 70 percent, to almost 16 million, by 2050, with the ultra-Orthodox accounting for about a third of all Israeli Jews]

How are they doomed? Can you name a European country that is going to have 70% population growth over the next 30 years and a 3.0 fertility rate? Its all the countries in Europe that you should be worried about...not Israel.

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Israel does not have anything approaching 400 nukes.

And what nukes they do have are unusable for all practical purposes due to their country's small size and vulnerability to nuclear retaliation.

Israel remains surrounded by Muslim populations who hate them irregardless what treaties their leadership signs.

Muslim populations in the region are expanding far more rapidly than Jewish populations.

And Israel's own people are racked by increasing division.

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Israel probably has around 50 nukes. That is more than enough to make sure their enemies go down with them if the survival of the State or People is put in question.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Millions more just like these filing pigs.



Israel is doomed .

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They have at least 400 nukes and a 1st world economy and military.

Why would they be doomed?

Their largest neighbor Egypt (who is about as militarily competent as Mexico) even has a peace treaty with them that they have honored since 1979

Not only that....but fertility rates are a major sign of if your nation has a future. And Israel has a fertility rate of 3.0 (while most of the Europe and N. America are below replacement).

Israel's population is growing...with ultra-orthodox growing very fast.

[Israel's population will surge by 70 percent, to almost 16 million, by 2050, with the ultra-Orthodox accounting for about a third of all Israeli Jews]

How are they doomed? Can you name a European country that is going to have 70% population growth over the next 30 years and a 3.0 fertility rate? Its all the countries in Europe that you should be worried about...not Israel.

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Israel does not have anything approaching 400 nukes.

And what nukes they do have are unusable for all practical purposes due to their country's small size and vulnerability to nuclear retaliation.

Israel remains surrounded by Muslim populations who hate them irregardless what treaties their leadership signs.

Muslim populations in the region are expanding far more rapidly than Jewish populations.

And Israel's own people are racked by increasing division.

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Israel probably has around 50 nukes. That is more than enough to make sure their enemies go down with them if the survival of the State or People is put in question.

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More like at least 80 to a possible 400

[Israel is estimated to possess somewhere between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads. One possible motivation for nuclear ambiguity is deterrence with minimum political cost.]

They have had them since they developed them with South Africa

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0096340214555409

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Millions more just like these filing pigs.



Israel is doomed .

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They have at least 400 nukes and a 1st world economy and military.

Why would they be doomed?

Their largest neighbor Egypt (who is about as militarily competent as Mexico) even has a peace treaty with them that they have honored since 1979

Not only that....but fertility rates are a major sign of if your nation has a future. And Israel has a fertility rate of 3.0 (while most of the Europe and N. America are below replacement).

Israel's population is growing...with ultra-orthodox growing very fast.

[Israel's population will surge by 70 percent, to almost 16 million, by 2050, with the ultra-Orthodox accounting for about a third of all Israeli Jews]

How are they doomed? Can you name a European country that is going to have 70% population growth over the next 30 years and a 3.0 fertility rate? Its all the countries in Europe that you should be worried about...not Israel.

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Israel does not have anything approaching 400 nukes.

And what nukes they do have are unusable for all practical purposes due to their country's small size and vulnerability to nuclear retaliation.

Israel remains surrounded by Muslim populations who hate them irregardless what treaties their leadership signs.

Muslim populations in the region are expanding far more rapidly than Jewish populations.

And Israel's own people are racked by increasing division.

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Israel probably has around 50 nukes. That is more than enough to make sure their enemies go down with them if the survival of the State or People is put in question.

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More like at least 80 to a possible 400

[Israel is estimated to possess somewhere between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads. One possible motivation for nuclear ambiguity is deterrence with minimum political cost.]

They have had them since they developed them with South Africa

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0096340214555409

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The French sold the Israelis the technology.

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NOW - White House: "This is war, it is combat, it is bloody, it is ugly, and it's going to be messy. And innocent civilians are going to be hurt going forward." pic.twitter.com/kAdi0wc9l3

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) October 24, 2023

KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Good to know the Israeli ruling class is the same as ours…

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You certainly have the right to your anti Israeli bias.

However it would be refreshing it you would disclose the reasons for it.

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Good to know the Israeli ruling class is the same as ours…

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You certainly have the right to your anti Israeli bias.

However it would be refreshing it you would disclose the reasons for it.

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Making fun of the PM letting his son run off to Miami to have fun while the soldiers enter Gaza to fight is bias.

Do you personably work for Bibi?

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Jacques Strap said:

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Obligatory "no evidence of a hate crime" in the stabbing of a Jewish Synagogue President outside her home.

The president of a Detroit synagogue was found stabbed to death outside her home, police and the synagogue said. The police did not have any information on a possible motive behind the killing, which is being investigated as a homicide. https://t.co/o6kWtVRHUz

— ABC News (@ABC) October 21, 2023

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Redbrickbear said:

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Its honestly not fair to throw Egypt and Jordan in with that group.

Egypt has had a peace treaty with Israel that they have honored since 1979.

And the royal family of Jordan (Hashemites) have gone out of their way to be on good relations with Israel since their peace treaty in 1994.

They have strong economic relations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Jordan_relations

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historian said:

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Some of the tribes in what is now the U.S. had relatively advanced cultures but at the time the British colonies were founded none, to my knowledge, were as advanced as the Maya or Inca. Later, after the U.S. was well established, the five civilized tribes of the southeast were more advanced. For example, the Cherokee had a written constitution modeled after our own.

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historian said:

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The Founding Fathers were influenced by European ideas when writing the constitution than Native American ones. The Iroquois League was a confederation so maybe it influenced the drafting of the Articles of Confederation. I do not know. But at the convention in Philadelphia the Founders rejected that model. They wanted a republic with a central government powerful enough to address the needs of the country.

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Redbrickbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Good to know the Israeli ruling class is the same as ours…

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You certainly have the right to your anti Israeli bias.

However it would be refreshing it you would disclose the reasons for it.

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Making fun of the PM letting his son run off to Miami to have fun while the soldiers enter Gaza to fight is bias.

Do you personably work for Bibi?

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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40 years ago today

40 years ago today, 220 Marines, 18 Sailors, and 3 Soldiers were killed in a bombing at the United States Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. pic.twitter.com/PKhYHxCJgT

— U.S. Marines (@USMC) October 23, 2023

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By far the biggest, most costly blunder of Reagan's presidency.

Sickening how the local military commanders would be so stupid as to stack our troops into such an easy target.

Then we ran out of the region with our tails between our legs.

The consequences of which are still being felt.

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Can't say one of Reagan's brightest moments. The French and Israeli's at least bombed in retaliation...

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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40 years ago today

40 years ago today, 220 Marines, 18 Sailors, and 3 Soldiers were killed in a bombing at the United States Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. pic.twitter.com/PKhYHxCJgT

— U.S. Marines (@USMC) October 23, 2023

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By far the biggest, most costly blunder of Reagan's presidency.

Sickening how the local military commanders would be so stupid as to stack our troops into such an easy target.

Then we ran out of the region with our tails between our legs.

The consequences of which are still being felt.

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Can't say one of Reagan's brightest moments. The French and Israeli's at least bombed in retaliation...

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We shelled Lebanon with the Battleship New Jersey. pancaked the home village of one of my Druze friends in Liberia at the time.

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/09/world/us-battleship-pounds-hills-held-by-syrians-in-lebanon-britain-pulling-out-troops.html

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historian said:

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They did not need a working model beyond the history of republics in general (which was not stellar). America was a great experiment: could they make a republic work in this vast land? They really did not have a clear idea of that success until the "Revolution of 1800": Thomas Jefferson defeated John Adams in the election (while his party swept both houses of Congress) for the first peaceful transfer of power in human history.

The Iroquois system was not very similar to the American constitution. The Founders rejected the idea of a confederation & chose a republic. The Iroquois wasn't exactly a great model of success either: they survived but did not manage crises very well. They were divided during the French & Indian War, for example.

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historian said:

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They did not need a working model beyond the history of republics in general (which was not stellar). America was a great experiment: could they make a republic work in this vast land? They really did not have a clear idea of that success until the "Revolution of 1800": Thomas Jefferson defeated John Adams in the election (while his party swept both houses of Congress) for the first peaceful transfer of power in human history.

The Iroquois system was not very similar to the American constitution. The Founders rejected the idea of a confederation & chose a republic. The Iroquois wasn't exactly a great model of success either: they survived but did not manage crises very well. They were divided during the French & Indian War, for example.

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Some of the tribes in what is now the U.S. had relatively advanced cultures but at the time the British colonies were founded none, to my knowledge, were as advanced as the Maya or Inca. Later, after the U.S. was well established, the five civilized tribes of the southeast were more advanced. For example, the Cherokee had a written constitution modeled after our own.

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I think we modeled ours after theirs and the Iroquois.

I grew up in New York in the 60's and 70's. One of the great things about attending school there was the education system at the time. First, they had Regent's courses which were high academic courses and you had to pass a Regent's exam to get credit. Second, was the Social Science education. We learned a lot about the Iroquois. The Iroquois Confederation played a role in the development of the US Constitution as well. We learned a lot about the relationships. I think I got through HS and the first 2 years of college on what my Regent's classes!


The Native American Government That Helped Inspire the US Constitution | HISTORY

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