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F'ing Savages...

Babies were beheaded. I’ll say it again. Hamas beheaded Jewish babies. https://t.co/Vb6r4MJLB0

— Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) October 10, 2023

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Remember that Redbrick and others actually believe that these atrocities are justified because.... the Jews

Muslims are just evil. This is what their dear leader Mohammad did, and he bragged about it. He was a butcher, a pedophile, and a war monger... according to his own words. Every muslim will tell you that Mohammad is their example. If they truly believe that, then it is logical for them to eventually follow in his footsteps and become an animalistic savage as well. The peaceful muslims are the ones who are ignorant of the teachings of Islam. If they ever truly study the Koran, they will either leave the religion or become evil themselves.

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You are basically an Iranian Cleric. Thinking that Christians haven't spent the last 2 thousand years doing the same stupid **** is mind blowing. Sooner religion can be wiped off the planet and replaced with critical thinking the better.

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Please share the videos of Christians beheading babies... I'll wait.

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I don't keep a copy of that stuff like you probably do but look no further than Africa for all the atrocities committed in the name of Jesus

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I'd start with 1994 Rwanda Genocide

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Had nothing to do with Christianity or religion.

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Must be why the pope apologized for it...You guys here are a special kind of stupid

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I went there. What about you? Blaming it on what the Pope apologized for would be like blaming the construction industry because construction workers killed people.

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Trying to recall whether atheists or humanists killed anyone in the past century.

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F'ing Savages...

Babies were beheaded. I’ll say it again. Hamas beheaded Jewish babies. https://t.co/Vb6r4MJLB0

— Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) October 10, 2023

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Remember that Redbrick and others actually believe that these atrocities are justified because.... the Jews

Muslims are just evil. This is what their dear leader Mohammad did, and he bragged about it. He was a butcher, a pedophile, and a war monger... according to his own words. Every muslim will tell you that Mohammad is their example. If they truly believe that, then it is logical for them to eventually follow in his footsteps and become an animalistic savage as well. The peaceful muslims are the ones who are ignorant of the teachings of Islam. If they ever truly study the Koran, they will either leave the religion or become evil themselves.

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You are basically an Iranian Cleric. Thinking that Christians haven't spent the last 2 thousand years doing the same stupid **** is mind blowing. Sooner religion can be wiped off the planet and replaced with critical thinking the better.

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Please share the videos of Christians beheading babies... I'll wait.

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I don't keep a copy of that stuff like you probably do but look no further than Africa for all the atrocities committed in the name of Jesus

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Links please?
Do you have any evidence at all?

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I'd start with 1994 Rwanda Genocide

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Had nothing to do with Christianity or religion.

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Must be why the pope apologized for it...You guys here are a special kind of stupid

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I went there. What about you? Blaming it on what the Pope apologized for would be like blaming the construction industry because construction workers killed people.

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Yes,because Christians and construction workers were the people involved...

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F'ing Savages...

Babies were beheaded. I’ll say it again. Hamas beheaded Jewish babies. https://t.co/Vb6r4MJLB0

— Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) October 10, 2023

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Remember that Redbrick and others actually believe that these atrocities are justified because.... the Jews

Muslims are just evil. This is what their dear leader Mohammad did, and he bragged about it. He was a butcher, a pedophile, and a war monger... according to his own words. Every muslim will tell you that Mohammad is their example. If they truly believe that, then it is logical for them to eventually follow in his footsteps and become an animalistic savage as well. The peaceful muslims are the ones who are ignorant of the teachings of Islam. If they ever truly study the Koran, they will either leave the religion or become evil themselves.

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You are basically an Iranian Cleric. Thinking that Christians haven't spent the last 2 thousand years doing the same stupid **** is mind blowing. Sooner religion can be wiped off the planet and replaced with critical thinking the better.

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Please share the videos of Christians beheading babies... I'll wait.

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I don't keep a copy of that stuff like you probably do but look no further than Africa for all the atrocities committed in the name of Jesus

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Links please?
Do you have any evidence at all?

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Had nothing to do with Christianity or religion.

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Must be why the pope apologized for it...You guys here are a special kind of stupid

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I went there. What about you? Blaming it on what the Pope apologized for would be like blaming the construction industry because construction workers killed people.

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Trying to recall whether atheists or humanists killed anyone in the past century.

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It's almost like the point is not to commit genocide because of the actions of a group as there are no innocents. I know being inbred wasn't your choice but it is never too late to remove yourself from tribal thought

Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

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F'ing Savages...

Babies were beheaded. I’ll say it again. Hamas beheaded Jewish babies. https://t.co/Vb6r4MJLB0

— Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) October 10, 2023

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Remember that Redbrick and others actually believe that these atrocities are justified because.... the Jews

Muslims are just evil. This is what their dear leader Mohammad did, and he bragged about it. He was a butcher, a pedophile, and a war monger... according to his own words. Every muslim will tell you that Mohammad is their example. If they truly believe that, then it is logical for them to eventually follow in his footsteps and become an animalistic savage as well. The peaceful muslims are the ones who are ignorant of the teachings of Islam. If they ever truly study the Koran, they will either leave the religion or become evil themselves.

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You are basically an Iranian Cleric. Thinking that Christians haven't spent the last 2 thousand years doing the same stupid **** is mind blowing. Sooner religion can be wiped off the planet and replaced with critical thinking the better.

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Please share the videos of Christians beheading babies... I'll wait.

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I don't keep a copy of that stuff like you probably do but look no further than Africa for all the atrocities committed in the name of Jesus

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Had nothing to do with Christianity or religion.

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Must be why the pope apologized for it...You guys here are a special kind of stupid

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I went there. What about you? Blaming it on what the Pope apologized for would be like blaming the construction industry because construction workers killed people.

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Trying to recall whether atheists or humanists killed anyone in the past century.

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It's almost like the point is not to commit genocide because of the actions of a group as there are no innocents. I know being inbred wasn't your choice but it is never too late to remove yourself from tribal thought

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Bless your heart. Your fellow humanists killed their own people for no reason except to acquire and consolidate power and did so at rates unseen before in human history. I can understand how this information shatters your worldview.

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F'ing Savages...

Babies were beheaded. I’ll say it again. Hamas beheaded Jewish babies. https://t.co/Vb6r4MJLB0

— Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) October 10, 2023

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Remember that Redbrick and others actually believe that these atrocities are justified because.... the Jews

Muslims are just evil. This is what their dear leader Mohammad did, and he bragged about it. He was a butcher, a pedophile, and a war monger... according to his own words. Every muslim will tell you that Mohammad is their example. If they truly believe that, then it is logical for them to eventually follow in his footsteps and become an animalistic savage as well. The peaceful muslims are the ones who are ignorant of the teachings of Islam. If they ever truly study the Koran, they will either leave the religion or become evil themselves.

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You are basically an Iranian Cleric. Thinking that Christians haven't spent the last 2 thousand years doing the same stupid **** is mind blowing. Sooner religion can be wiped off the planet and replaced with critical thinking the better.

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Please share the videos of Christians beheading babies... I'll wait.

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I don't keep a copy of that stuff like you probably do but look no further than Africa for all the atrocities committed in the name of Jesus

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Had nothing to do with Christianity or religion.

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I went there. What about you? Blaming it on what the Pope apologized for would be like blaming the construction industry because construction workers killed people.

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Trying to recall whether atheists or humanists killed anyone in the past century.

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It's almost like the point is not to commit genocide because of the actions of a group as there are no innocents. I know being inbred wasn't your choice but it is never too late to remove yourself from tribal thought

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Bless your heart. Your fellow humanists killed their own people for no reason except to acquire and consolidate power and did so at rates unseen before in human history. I can understand how this information shatters your worldview.

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I'm not a humanist. You are a Christian. I'd be happy to educate you on issues I have on humanism if you don't mind your world view being threatened.

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F'ing Savages...

Babies were beheaded. I’ll say it again. Hamas beheaded Jewish babies. https://t.co/Vb6r4MJLB0

— Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) October 10, 2023

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Remember that Redbrick and others actually believe that these atrocities are justified because.... the Jews

Muslims are just evil. This is what their dear leader Mohammad did, and he bragged about it. He was a butcher, a pedophile, and a war monger... according to his own words. Every muslim will tell you that Mohammad is their example. If they truly believe that, then it is logical for them to eventually follow in his footsteps and become an animalistic savage as well. The peaceful muslims are the ones who are ignorant of the teachings of Islam. If they ever truly study the Koran, they will either leave the religion or become evil themselves.

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You are basically an Iranian Cleric. Thinking that Christians haven't spent the last 2 thousand years doing the same stupid **** is mind blowing. Sooner religion can be wiped off the planet and replaced with critical thinking the better.

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Please share the videos of Christians beheading babies... I'll wait.

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Had nothing to do with Christianity or religion.

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Must be why the pope apologized for it...You guys here are a special kind of stupid

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I went there. What about you? Blaming it on what the Pope apologized for would be like blaming the construction industry because construction workers killed people.

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Trying to recall whether atheists or humanists killed anyone in the past century.

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It's almost like the point is not to commit genocide because of the actions of a group as there are no innocents. I know being inbred wasn't your choice but it is never too late to remove yourself from tribal thought

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Bless your heart. Your fellow humanists killed their own people for no reason except to acquire and consolidate power and did so at rates unseen before in human history. I can understand how this information shatters your worldview.

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I'm not a humanist. You are a Christian. I'd be happy to educate you on issues I have on humanism if you don't mind your world view being threatened.

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I don't care what label you appropriate to yourself. Your fellow non-religious adherents are responsible for far more death and suffering than the religious.

Because I don't believe in a fairy tale I'm responsible for Stalin? I feel like a reasonable person wouldn't hold me directly accountable for a group I don't associate with.

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Because I don't believe in a fairy tale I'm responsible for Stalin? I feel like a reasonable person wouldn't hold me directly accountable for a group I don't associate with.

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Yes, just like Christianity is responsible for Kony.

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Because I don't believe in a fairy tale I'm responsible for Stalin? I feel like a reasonable person wouldn't hold me directly accountable for a group I don't associate with.

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Yes, just like Christianity is responsible for Kony.

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Do you not realize I was responding to someone that said all Muslims need to be nuked off the planet? You are literally on my side of this argument you fool

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Because I don't believe in a fairy tale I'm responsible for Stalin? I feel like a reasonable person wouldn't hold me directly accountable for a group I don't associate with.

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Yes, just like Christianity is responsible for Kony.

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Do you not realize I was responding to someone that said all Muslims need to be nuked off the planet? You are literally on my side of this argument you fool

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No, I am not on your side. Because you are wrong.

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Because I don't believe in a fairy tale I'm responsible for Stalin? I feel like a reasonable person wouldn't hold me directly accountable for a group I don't associate with.

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Perhaps you're more of a Pol Pot or Mao kinda guy.

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I'm more like the guy that invested in Jesus' multi level marketing campaign to take advantage of the morons that would give money to anything

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Because I don't believe in a fairy tale I'm responsible for Stalin? I feel like a reasonable person wouldn't hold me directly accountable for a group I don't associate with.

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Do you not realize I was responding to someone that said all Muslims need to be nuked off the planet? You are literally on my side of this argument you fool

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No, I am not on your side. Because you are wrong.

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It is no wonder you drink zombie blood with that level of thinking

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Do you not realize I was responding to someone that said all Muslims need to be nuked off the planet? You are literally on my side of this argument you fool

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No, I am not on your side. Because you are wrong.

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It is no wonder you drink zombie blood with that level of thinking

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That makes you sound really intelligent. I have changed my mind about you now.

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That is just the zombie blood talking

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Do you not realize I was responding to someone that said all Muslims need to be nuked off the planet? You are literally on my side of this argument you fool

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No, I am not on your side. Because you are wrong.

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That makes you sound really intelligent. I have changed my mind about you now.

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That is not what we do at my congregation. Like I said, you seem really sharp now.

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Because I don't believe in a fairy tale I'm responsible for Stalin? I feel like a reasonable person wouldn't hold me directly accountable for a group I don't associate with.

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Do you not realize I was responding to someone that said all Muslims need to be nuked off the planet? You are literally on my side of this argument you fool

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No, I am not on your side. Because you are wrong.

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That makes you sound really intelligent. I have changed my mind about you now.

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That is not what we do at my congregation. Like I said, you seem really sharp now.

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I don't know the intricacies of the Sunni vs Shia

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the former defense department spokesman who lied through his teeth about civilian deaths in afghanistan/iraq/etc, now shedding tears for "family members, friends..." as national security council spokesmouth for the biden white house...

ameribros, are you ready to get drafted? https://t.co/FZsKQ9bKES

— Melian Refugee (@escapefrommelos) October 10, 2023

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Are your Palestinian brothers going to break out of the big prison you speak of? They have been warned. Anybody stupid enough to stay may get to have dinner with Allah tomorrow. They have been warned.

Time to flush the toilet. Past time.

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I think it is possible to believe Israel should rectify this situation even realizing it will be at a great cost of innocent life. Saying it is flushing the toilet says more about you than than them.

I totally believe and want Israel to bomb the **** out of them but at the same time can appreciate that their are going to be way too many people that weren't even old enough to take a position on this.

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A little late for that, Terrorist Apologist Boy. Some innocents will die. Yes, some hostages will die. HAMAS and anyone that supports them needs to be obliterated and turned into ashes. Israel is done with this crap. Either get out of Gaza or die. It is a simple choice.

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Technically you are the terrorist here and if your fake god existed he'd send you straight to hell.

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How? Israel has been more than reasonable. Israel won Gaza in 73 when the Arabs attacked. They gave Gaza to the Palestinians and is run by Hamas since 2005, they get enough money to make a real modern City/State, yet rather than make people's lives better they choose to buy missiles. They attacked Israel, brutally. Gloves are off and it was Hamas's choice.

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

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If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by concrete walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

[America's Hamas, Once Upon A Time:

Several people have noted in recent days how much the bloody Hamas raid was like the raids American Indians made on white settlements in the 19th century. A fantastic book to read is Empire Of The Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne. It came out in 2010. It's a biography of Quanah Parker, the last great chief of the Comanches. His mother was a white woman who had been kidnapped as a girl from her pioneer parents, and who went native. I didn't read it until just after I had moved away from Texas; this fact left me really frustrated that I hadn't learned this history while I lived within easy driving distance of the important places in Quanah Parker's life.
We have a strong tendency in contemporary American life to romanticize the Indians, in the same way a previous generation romanticized the settlers. There can be no doubt that the whites were there to take Indian land. But it's also the case that the Indians responded with unspeakable savagery. In this 2010 Fresh Air interview, author Gwynne discusses it. Excerpt:

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Sam Gwynne, welcome to FRESH AIR. So, let's start with the story of how Quanah's mother was captured by the Comanche when she was nine. I mean, the family lived in a fort on the outer edge of white settlements, about 90 miles from what is now Dallas. So they were very exposed. Why were they there?

Mr. S.C. Gwynne (Author, "Empire of the Summer Moon"): They were part of that kind of vanguard of Scots-Irish settlement that really, you know, in effect, was what eventually beat the Indians. But they were people who were determined. They were hard-nosed. They were predestinarian Baptists, and they settled, as you say, about 90 miles south of what is now Dallas.

It was the outermost edge of the frontier. What they didn't know when they built their fort in 1836 was that it was right at the point where this giant, 250,000-square-mile Comanche empire touched this nascent American empire. They were exactly at that point.
And so the Comanches raided the fort in May of 1836, killed a bunch of people, you know, killed five people. There were a bunch of people wounded. Some escaped, but five captives were taken. and one of those captives was the nine-year-old Cynthia Ann Parker, which became, in effect, the start of a 24-year-old captivity that she came to see not as captivity.

GROSS: You describe very vividly what the raid, what the Comanche raid on the Parker fort was like, and it's gruesome.

Mr. GWYNNE: Extremely.

GROSS: So I'm going to ask you to describe it, but first I'll say if you don't want to hear a gruesome description, this is your opportunity to tune out for maybe two minutes. Come right back.
(Soundbite of laughter)

GROSS: But, I mean, this is history. So - and I think it's very important and interesting history. So please describe what happened.

Mr. GWYNNE: Well, what happened was what happened in every plains Indian raid going back for centuries. In other words, it was - this is what Indians did to Indians, and this just happened to be Indians meeting whites.
But the automatic thing in battle is that all the adult males would be killed. That was automatic. That's one of the reasons that Indians fought to the death. The white men were astonished at it, but they were assuming - assumed that they would be killed.
The most - the small children were killed, very small children were killed. A lot of the, say, children in the, I don't know, three-to-seven or three-to-10 range were often taken as captives. The women were often raped and often killed. And so it was an extremely brutal - and it was when - all of the people in the settlements back in those years knew what it was, knew what a Comanche raid meant, which was the same as a Kiowa raid or an Arapaho raid or another kind of raid.
But they were grim. They were grisly. Captives were usually involved, you know. and it's an interesting kind of moral question that you have to - as an historian about plains Indians or about American Indians in general, you have to come to terms with this, with torture, which they did - which they practiced all across the West and, in fact, all across the East - and these kind of grisly practices that scared white people to death.

GROSS: I mean, you're talking not only about scalping. You're talking about various forms of mutilation, cutting off fingers and toes, gang...

Mr. GWYNNE: Torture by fire, torture by all sorts of different things - I mean, putting, you know, hot coals on your stomach. I mean, there were lots and lots of imaginative tortures that were, indeed, practiced by Indians all across the Americas.

GROSS: And this includes gang rape.

Mr. GWYNNE: It includes gang rape.

GROSS: And what I find provocative about this right now is that in American's attempt to reconcile the atrocities that Americans committed against Native Americans, a lot of the Indian story was maybe rewritten a little bit to leave out some of those atrocities.

Mr. GWYNNE: Oh, I think absolutely.

GROSS: I mean, after focusing so much on, like...
Mr. GWYNNE: Yes.
GROSS: ...you know, cowboys versus Indians in Western movies, I think so many Americans felt bad about that kind of, like, good-guy-versus-bad-guy description when white Americans were responsible for so much bad stuff themselves, that maybe - are you suggesting in your book that history maybe got rewritten a little too much in terms of leaving out some of the atrocities that Native Americans did commit in those wars?

Mr. GWYNNE: Oh, I think so. I think that's a good point. And there was even an attempt at some point to deny that Indians were warlike. They were - Comanches were incredibly warlike.
They swept everyone off the Southern plains. They nearly exterminated the Apaches. They were warlike by nature. And, you know, if you look at, say, the Comanches, and then you look back in history at, for example, you know, Goths and Vikings or Mongols or Celts - or old Celts are actually a very good parallel.
In a lot of ways, I think we're looking back at earlier versions of ourselves. It was we - we, being white Europeans - did all of those things. Not only that, but torture was institutionalized in things like the Counterreformation and the Spanish Inquisition. It was part of, you know, the Russian empire. I mean, torture is not the exclusive province of the Indians.
But I think you're right. I think there was a certain wave of books, a certain type of book that wanted to kind of set the record straight in a different way. But yes, it was - life was extremely brutal, and it was extremely brutal on both sides. And in my book, I don't - I try not to take sides. The whites were perpetrators of some of the most astonishing massacres in history, but so were the Indians.

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What we in the modern West have forgotten is that this kind of extreme brutality is part of human nature. It remains, no matter how civilized we have become. This is the meaning of the Holocaust: the most culturally and technologically advanced nation on earth at the time used its intelligence and skill to resurrect ancient barbarism at industrial scale. The skull is always and everywhere just beneath the skin.] -Rod Dreher

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

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If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by by concert walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

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Why would it take years? With a sudden tidal wave of money from Iran thanks to Biden, they could wage this attack effectively. With billions at your disposal all your plans and ideas become easily attainable.

FormerFlash said:

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First time checking in on this thread and I certainly did not expect half the posts to be in defense of Hamas while claiming moral equivalence.

And just stop responding to Ron. He's 100% a troll with zero value added to any conversation whose sole purpose in posting is to stir the pot.

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Moral equivalency? Are you just making up things to be upset about because your religion is stupid?

Wangchung said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

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If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by by concert walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

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Why would it take years? With a sudden tidal wave of money from Iran thanks to Biden, they could wage this attack effectively. With billions at your disposal all your plans and ideas become easily attainable.

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Well I guess it might not take that long.

Obviously I have no experience in military logistics.

I just assume a terrorist organization in Gaza would take years to build up/stockpile enough rockets, ammo, and guns for such an attack.

It can't be that easy to run Israeli naval blockades and smuggle guns in tunnels from Egypt

Redbrickbear said:

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Wangchung said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

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If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by by concert walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

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Why would it take years? With a sudden tidal wave of money from Iran thanks to Biden, they could wage this attack effectively. With billions at your disposal all your plans and ideas become easily attainable.

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Well I guess it might not take that long.

Obviously I have no experience in military logistics.

I just assume a terrorist organization in Gaza would take years to build up/stockpile enough rockets, ammo, and guns for such an attack.

It can't be that easy to run Israeli naval blockades and smuggle guns in tunnels from Egypt

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$6,000,000,000 can make magic happen.

trey3216 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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FormerFlash said:

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First time checking in on this thread and I certainly did not expect half the posts to be in defense of Hamas while claiming moral equivalence.

And just stop responding to Ron. He's 100% a troll with zero value added to any conversation whose sole purpose in posting is to stir the pot.

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Moral equivalency? Are you just making up things to be upset about because your religion is stupid?

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I'm glad it makes you hard telling other people their religion is stupid. It makes you look like a pompous prlck and an intellectual coward. Acting like it makes you smarter is beyond intellectually dishonest, and you do yourself a major disservice continuing to spew diarrhea from your mouth and fingers.

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Why do Christians always have to bring ***** into religion?

Wangchung said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

---

If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by by concert walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

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Why would it take years? With a sudden tidal wave of money from Iran thanks to Biden, they could wage this attack effectively. With billions at your disposal all your plans and ideas become easily attainable.

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And those plans would have been seen pretty easily if truckloads of missiles started arriving out of the blue. It took years because it was a very coordinated, most heavily advanced attack Hamas has pulled on Israel in a long, long time. It took years because in order for it to work, things had to look normal for a long period.

Redbrickbear said:

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Wangchung said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

---

If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by by concert walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

---

Why would it take years? With a sudden tidal wave of money from Iran thanks to Biden, they could wage this attack effectively. With billions at your disposal all your plans and ideas become easily attainable.

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Well I guess it might not take that long.

Obviously I have no experience in military logistics.

I just assume a terrorist organization in Gaza would take years to build up/stockpile enough rockets, ammo, and guns for such an attack.

It can't be that easy to run Israeli naval blockades and smuggle guns in tunnels from Egypt

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Actually, the "blockade" and other Gaza restrictions are exaggerated. Israel has eased it for years. Unfortunately, it's very easy to sneak weapons (and anything else) into Gaza. Traditionally, Israel's success in preventing these larger scale attacks has been due to its intel and what it does once the weapons get there. Yes, they seize the occasional shipments, but mostly it's been intel on where the weapons are stored, etc.

Similarly, Israel has allowed more Gaza freedom of movement in recent years, including into Israel. Unfortunately, it's now being reported that many of the terrorists were Gazans who worked in Israel, and in fact, some of them worked on the Kibbutz that they attacked.

trey3216 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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trey3216 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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FormerFlash said:

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First time checking in on this thread and I certainly did not expect half the posts to be in defense of Hamas while claiming moral equivalence.

And just stop responding to Ron. He's 100% a troll with zero value added to any conversation whose sole purpose in posting is to stir the pot.

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Moral equivalency? Are you just making up things to be upset about because your religion is stupid?

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I'm glad it makes you hard telling other people their religion is stupid. It makes you look like a pompous prlck and an intellectual coward. Acting like it makes you smarter is beyond intellectually dishonest, and you do yourself a major disservice continuing to spew diarrhea from your mouth and fingers.

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Why do Christians always have to bring ***** into religion?

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IF that's what you go out of this, you really are a clueless son of a bltch.

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People coming to a political and religion forum are offended when it is discussed.

Wangchung said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

---

If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by by concert walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

---

Why would it take years? With a sudden tidal wave of money from Iran thanks to Biden, they could wage this attack effectively. With billions at your disposal all your plans and ideas become easily attainable.

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Well, the billions are sitting in a bank account in UAE and havent been touched.

Redbrickbear said:

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Wangchung said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Bibi's Big Chance

Hamas' attack on Israel offers the country's prime minister an opportunity to course correct and save his political legacy if he takes it.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/08/israel-war-benjamin-netanyahu-legacy-00120532

This attack has very odd timing for Netanyahu. I find it hard to believe that the Mossad didnt see this coming. It could be possible that they let the attack happen bc this would unify the country behind the Likud party. Of course this is a conspiracy theory but I dont find it hard to believe.

---

If nothing else it hurts their credibility as a fearsome intelligence agency.

Gaza is surrounded by by concert walls and barbed wire. Its under constant 24-7 surveillance by IDF military outposts and drone reconnaissance.

Someone's proverbial head should roll for not knowing this plan was being hatched.

It must have taken years for Hamas to build up the weapons and plan such a break out/attack.

Gaza is like 1/10th the size of McLennan County Texas (140sq miles vs 1,060sq miles).....it should not be hard to monitor

---

Why would it take years? With a sudden tidal wave of money from Iran thanks to Biden, they could wage this attack effectively. With billions at your disposal all your plans and ideas become easily attainable.

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Well I guess it might not take that long.

Obviously I have no experience in military logistics.

I just assume a terrorist organization in Gaza would take years to build up/stockpile enough rockets, ammo, and guns for such an attack.

It can't be that easy to run Israeli naval blockades and smuggle guns in tunnels from Egypt

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you forget that they have had decades of practice. The supply lines were established way back in the 1950s, when Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Trans Jordan.

There is no need to run naval blockades, when those blockades are not affecting the flow of weapons into Egypt, Jordan, Syria or Lebanon. Despite their peace agreements with Israel, these nations still have very active terrorist organizations who are constantly supplying the muslims in Gaza & the West Bank.