Netanyahu said "we are at war,"

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boognish_bear said:


Time to arm the millions of illegals entering the US. Otherwise the Mexican drug cartels will. Might as well get ahead of the curve.

Of course we should also provide each illegal with free housing, food, medical care and $ 5,000 per month.

It's our moral obligation

Simply increase property taxes and income taxes throughout nation to cover the costs.

Biden is earning my vote.


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Of course she does..

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Detained, no wait we meant to say held hostage.

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As this week progressed I was wondering why Israeli troops remained massed but not pressing. I saw a clip on CNN that said these soldiers are away from work, home, dorms and were living on air mattresses. I'll bet the impatience is wearing and they are anxious to go in to Gaza or go home.

Apparently DC has negotiated with Qatar (home of Hamas) for hostages. The delay is like electing a Speaker of the House.
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Jack Bauer said:

Of course she does..


Must be tough for her to be photographed without her terrorist head wrap!
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

As this week progressed I was wondering why Israeli troops remained massed but not pressing. I saw a clip on CNN that said these soldiers are away from work, home, dorms and were living on air mattresses. I'll bet the impatience is wearing and they are anxious to go in to Gaza or go home.

Apparently DC has negotiated with Qatar (home of Hamas) for hostages. The delay is like electing a Speaker of the House.


Oh the wait helps. Combat troops want action, pend up energy helps. When they are told to go, they will be happy. Action beats sitting around waiting. The waiting is the worst part. Get on with it. Roll the tanks
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FLBear5630 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

As this week progressed I was wondering why Israeli troops remained massed but not pressing. I saw a clip on CNN that said these soldiers are away from work, home, dorms and were living on air mattresses. I'll bet the impatience is wearing and they are anxious to go in to Gaza or go home.

Apparently DC has negotiated with Qatar (home of Hamas) for hostages. The delay is like electing a Speaker of the House.


Oh the wait helps. Combat troops want action, pend up energy helps. When they are told to go, they will be happy. Action beats sitting around waiting. The waiting is the worst part. Get on with it. Roll the tanks
As every day passes, it becomes increasingly unlikely the invasion happens at all.
Jack Bauer
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We've learned what pisses off the left more than anything else... Israel responding to the worst terrorist attack since 9/11
Jacques Strap
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I have to wonder if this female Saudi reporter is safe after this interview. I cannot imagine MSNBC or really any US agency including Fox asking these questions.
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In an unprecedented scene, a Saudi Arabian reporter grilled the leader of Hamas, Khaled Mashal, on Friday.
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REPORTER: The last thing they need is another war that will come with another bill to pay. They say: Khaled Mashal is sitting in an air-conditioned room, talking about wars, jihad, and bombings

MASHAL: We are in the middle of the battlefield. No one is sitting this one out.
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historian said:

Iraqi chemical weapons probably ended up in Syria.
yep. Sold/traded for something, no doubt.

Frankly, put yourself in Saddam's shoes. What's more important, the inventory, or the factory?

In extremis, I'd be willing to burn or bury the inventory to protect the scientists and machinery.

That was the fatal flaw of the Bush argument for war - it presumed there would be vast storehouses of inventory for us to discover, take pictures of, etc.... It was the mother of all miscalculations. to borrow a phrase.
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whiterock said:

historian said:

Iraqi chemical weapons probably ended up in Syria.
yep. Sold/traded for something, no doubt.

Frankly, put yourself in Saddam's shoes. What's more important, the inventory, or the factory?

In extremis, I'd be willing to burn or bury the inventory to protect the scientists and machinery.

That was the fatal flaw of the Bush argument for war - it presumed there would be vast storehouses of inventory for us to discover, take pictures of, etc.... It was the mother of all miscalculations. to borrow a phrase.

More than one of those Iraqi scientists ended up in the U.S.
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nein51 said:

whiterock said:

historian said:

Iraqi chemical weapons probably ended up in Syria.
yep. Sold/traded for something, no doubt.

Frankly, put yourself in Saddam's shoes. What's more important, the inventory, or the factory?

In extremis, I'd be willing to burn or bury the inventory to protect the scientists and machinery.

That was the fatal flaw of the Bush argument for war - it presumed there would be vast storehouses of inventory for us to discover, take pictures of, etc.... It was the mother of all miscalculations. to borrow a phrase.

More than one of those Iraqi scientists ended up in the U.S.
Well, it does remove them from the Middle East labor market....
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nein51 said:

whiterock said:

historian said:

Iraqi chemical weapons probably ended up in Syria.
yep. Sold/traded for something, no doubt.

Frankly, put yourself in Saddam's shoes. What's more important, the inventory, or the factory?

In extremis, I'd be willing to burn or bury the inventory to protect the scientists and machinery.

That was the fatal flaw of the Bush argument for war - it presumed there would be vast storehouses of inventory for us to discover, take pictures of, etc.... It was the mother of all miscalculations. to borrow a phrase.

More than one of those Iraqi scientists ended up in the U.S.

Quite possibly. Just like German scientists came to the U.S. after WWII, most notably Werner von Braun who led our rock et program.
nein51
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historian said:

nein51 said:

whiterock said:

historian said:

Iraqi chemical weapons probably ended up in Syria.
yep. Sold/traded for something, no doubt.

Frankly, put yourself in Saddam's shoes. What's more important, the inventory, or the factory?

In extremis, I'd be willing to burn or bury the inventory to protect the scientists and machinery.

That was the fatal flaw of the Bush argument for war - it presumed there would be vast storehouses of inventory for us to discover, take pictures of, etc.... It was the mother of all miscalculations. to borrow a phrase.

More than one of those Iraqi scientists ended up in the U.S.

Quite possibly. Just like German scientists came to the U.S. after WWII, most notably Werner von Braun who led our rock et program.

Not possibly. They [more than 1-2] were moved through KSA to the US. Not conjecture.
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Jacques Strap said:

I have to wonder if this female Saudi reporter is safe after this interview. I cannot imagine MSNBC or really any US agency including Fox asking these questions.
Quote:

In an unprecedented scene, a Saudi Arabian reporter grilled the leader of Hamas, Khaled Mashal, on Friday.
Quote:

REPORTER: The last thing they need is another war that will come with another bill to pay. They say: Khaled Mashal is sitting in an air-conditioned room, talking about wars, jihad, and bombings

MASHAL: We are in the middle of the battlefield. No one is sitting this one out.



Of course she is safe.

One thing you learn watching media from other countries (France, Japan, etc) is how much more serious they are and how much more broad the questions are…it's still adversarial but in a more serious way than our "faux outrage cable spectacle" style

MSNBC, CNN, Fox are a joke in comparison.

I'm not sure what the reason for the difference is…maybe it's political correctness? Maybe because our media is controlled by only 6 major corporations? Maybe American viewers cant handle long discussions? Maybe some other reason I can't think of….but there is a clear difference

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Some countries have government owned media, like the BBC. Essentially, it's a state run propaganda outlet. They might pretend to be objective but they are not all that different than American "journalist" hacks.
KaiBear
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The BBC has a strong liberal / woke bias.

As long as one is aware of this bias the BBC is still an interesting read.
historian
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That can sometimes be said of NYT and other American outlets. While somewhat true, it's overshadowed by the blatant propaganda that is generally the norm.
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Bear8084 said:

It's been proven over and over and I presented the evidence. There's more out there in the OSINT community too. Sorry if you don't believe an angel like Assad would do that, but it's pretty much true.

Also look at the dates of the articles and which attacks were being investigated.

Assad is not an angel, but is likely better than what would have replaced him if the fools at the State Department had been successful in overthrowing him. Object lessons: Mubarak was better than the Muslim Brotherhood, Gaddafi was better than the mess Libya is now, even Saddam Hussein was better than the current state of play in Iraq.

I don't know why it's so hard for some to understand the nature of Islam. It is better for the west to have Muslims ruled by a secular dictator than have the freedom to express their love of jihad at the ballot box or be ruled by a dictatorship that reflects it. People who have no understanding of Christianity or the founding principles of our nation only use democracy as a tool to express the evil side of human nature (as we are beginning to do here as we fall away from the Christian faith).
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The State Dept is magnificent in turning a bad situation into one much worse.
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And the world is mad at...Israel

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That's why the IDF feels they must treat their enemy like mad animals: because that's what they are.

Can you imagine what it must be like for the soldiers or emergency personnel who had to discover that barbarism?
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Jack Bauer said:

And the world is mad at...Israel




If your reaction to this is "yes,but...." you need to get your head checked
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Jack Bauer said:

Jack Bauer said:

And the world is mad at...Israel




If your reaction to this is "yes,but...." you need to get your head checked

Amen. That kind of evil is demonic.
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There are reports of Hamas giving the stimulation drug Captagon to those invaders on Oct 7th. The pills were found on numerous Hamas bodies after the attack on Israel. That could possibly explain why they acted the way they did. Drugged out of their minds.

Not sure if this is Israeli war propaganda or truth but it does make sense.
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historian
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I've seen those reports too. Supposedly it's the "poor man's cocaine".
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Jack Bauer said:

And the world is mad at...Israel


Many Muslims do not consider rape a criminal act if it is done against non Muslims.

And that little unpleasant reality has been the case for centuries.




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Aliceinbubbleland said:

There are reports of Hamas giving the stimulation drug Captagon to those invaders on Oct 7th. The pills were found on numerous Hamas bodies after the attack on Israel. That could possibly explain why they acted the way they did. Drugged out of their minds.

Not sure if this is Israeli war propaganda or truth but it does make sense.


This has been news since day 2.
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Redbrickbear said:

sombear said:

Likely the end of Palestine as we know it


Israel was never going to let them actual have a State anyway.




Israel was repeatedly getting attacked from the West Bank for many years.

So they are settling the area with their own people.

A common practice of warfare throughout history.



But of course if you disagree with the 'morality' of this concept no doubt you are also willing to give back 80% of the United States to the indians .

Right ?
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