Netanyahu said "we are at war,"

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In reply to KaiBear • 10:03p, 10/21/23
Every country in the world contains territory that belonged to somebody else at some time in history. There is no way to make everyone happy if they start claiming land that they once held. There are no easy answers or solutions but Israel does have a right to exist & the Palestinians have repeatedly refused to acknowledge that for 75 years. That plus the terrorism explains Israeli policies & determination.

As for the Palestinians having their own country, Israel has agreed to that multiple times. It was always rejected by the Palestinians because they wanted all or nothing: meaning no Israel. In the end, everyone got around that by giving them Gaza which is their own country. They turned into an armed camp, terrorizing & brainwashing their own people while also launching g attacks on Israel. The atrocities earlier this month are merely the latest example.
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In reply to KaiBear • 7:24a, 10/22/23
KaiBear said:
Jack Bauer said:
And the world is mad at...Israel

Many Muslims do not consider rape a criminal act if it is done against non Muslims.

And that little unpleasant reality has been the case for centuries.




....to anyone not sharia-compliant, the implication being that if a woman is not wearing a burqa, she is a ***** and ergo deserving of the punishment.


in practice, this means rape is a crime which never occurs in the islamic world. Any woman raped is presumed to have invited it by deed or dress, ergo deserving of what she got and in many cases will be punished, to include the most draconian of all - stoning.
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In reply to whiterock • 7:31a, 10/22/23
whiterock said:
KaiBear said:
Jack Bauer said:
And the world is mad at...Israel

Many Muslims do not consider rape a criminal act if it is done against non Muslims.

And that little unpleasant reality has been the case for centuries.




....to anyone not sharia-compliant, the implication being that if a woman is not wearing a burqa, she is a ***** and ergo deserving of the punishment.


in practice, this means rape is a crime which never occurs in the islamic world. Any woman raped is presumed to have invited it by deed or dress, ergo deserving of what she got and in many cases will be punished, to include the most draconian of all - stoning.


Yep
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In reply to whiterock • 8:21a, 10/22/23
whiterock said:
KaiBear said:
Jack Bauer said:
And the world is mad at...Israel

Many Muslims do not consider rape a criminal act if it is done against non Muslims.

And that little unpleasant reality has been the case for centuries.




....to anyone not sharia-compliant, the implication being that if a woman is not wearing a burqa, she is a ***** and ergo deserving of the punishment.


in practice, this means rape is a crime which never occurs in the islamic world. Any woman raped is presumed to have invited it by deed or dress, ergo deserving of what she got and in many cases will be punished, to include the most draconian of all - stoning.
This is correct.

Also, to be convicted of rape in the muslim judicial system, there must be 2 eye witnesses to the rape. The vicitim of the rape must have 2 men witness the rape or 5 other women... otherwise the testimony of the man cannot be overruled. This is why almost no one is ever convicted of rape.

It is really funny that some muslims will brag about how rape almost never happens in a muslim country. What they really mean is that almost no one is ever found guilty of rape, unless it is a non muslim man.
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In reply to ShooterTX • 8:30a, 10/22/23
ShooterTX said:
whiterock said:
KaiBear said:
Jack Bauer said:
And the world is mad at...Israel

Many Muslims do not consider rape a criminal act if it is done against non Muslims.

And that little unpleasant reality has been the case for centuries.




....to anyone not sharia-compliant, the implication being that if a woman is not wearing a burqa, she is a ***** and ergo deserving of the punishment.


in practice, this means rape is a crime which never occurs in the islamic world. Any woman raped is presumed to have invited it by deed or dress, ergo deserving of what she got and in many cases will be punished, to include the most draconian of all - stoning.
This is correct.

Also, to be convicted of rape in the muslim judicial system, there must be 2 eye witnesses to the rape. The vicitim of the rape must have 2 men witness the rape or 5 other women... otherwise the testimony of the man cannot be overruled. This is why almost no one is ever convicted of rape.

It is really funny that some muslims will brag about how rape almost never happens in a muslim country. What they really mean is that almost no one is ever found guilty of rape, unless it is a non muslim man.
no woman alleges it for fear of being "punished"
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In reply to whiterock • 8:38a, 10/22/23
whiterock said:
ShooterTX said:
whiterock said:
KaiBear said:
Jack Bauer said:
And the world is mad at...Israel

Many Muslims do not consider rape a criminal act if it is done against non Muslims.

And that little unpleasant reality has been the case for centuries.




....to anyone not sharia-compliant, the implication being that if a woman is not wearing a burqa, she is a ***** and ergo deserving of the punishment.


in practice, this means rape is a crime which never occurs in the islamic world. Any woman raped is presumed to have invited it by deed or dress, ergo deserving of what she got and in many cases will be punished, to include the most draconian of all - stoning.
This is correct.

Also, to be convicted of rape in the muslim judicial system, there must be 2 eye witnesses to the rape. The vicitim of the rape must have 2 men witness the rape or 5 other women... otherwise the testimony of the man cannot be overruled. This is why almost no one is ever convicted of rape.

It is really funny that some muslims will brag about how rape almost never happens in a muslim country. What they really mean is that almost no one is ever found guilty of rape, unless it is a non muslim man.
no woman alleges it for fear of being "punished"
Also true.

If a woman accuses someone of rape in the muslim world, all she has really done is "admit" to either fornication or adultery. Those charges can lead to horrible consequences for her, including death in some cases.
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11:24a, 10/22/23

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Forensic pathologists, including Israeli staffers as well as volunteers from abroad, were visibly disturbed by the evidence before them.

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Perhaps the most disturbing image in the slideshow was a completely charred mass of flesh, which at first glance could not be seen as ever having belonged to a human. It was only after a CT scan was done that experts could see the inhumanity of the image.

Two spinal cords one belonging to an adult, one to someone young a parent and child bound together by metal wires in a final embrace before being set alight.

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I've seen many things in my 31-year career, but the magnitude and the cruelty [here] is terrible,


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11:37a, 10/22/23
I wonder if the people at the NYT read the Jerusalem Post

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12:14p, 10/22/23
Astros in Home Stretch Geaux Texans
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 12:41p, 10/22/23

I mean who are we to judge people who rape and behead civilians...

Jacques Strap said:
I wonder if the people at the NYT read the Jerusalem Post

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In reply to whiterock • 1:19p, 10/22/23
whiterock said:
KaiBear said:
Jack Bauer said:
And the world is mad at...Israel

Many Muslims do not consider rape a criminal act if it is done against non Muslims.

And that little unpleasant reality has been the case for centuries.




....to anyone not sharia-compliant, the implication being that if a woman is not wearing a burqa, she is a ***** and ergo deserving of the punishment.


in practice, this means rape is a crime which never occurs in the islamic world. Any woman raped is presumed to have invited it by deed or dress, ergo deserving of what she got and in many cases will be punished, to include the most draconian of all - stoning.

Well, it is a 7th century legal code, literally. No one should be surprised that it's so medieval in practice.
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 1:21p, 10/22/23
Jacques Strap said:


We do not extend immigration benefits to Nazis. The same should be true of Islamofascists and their sympathizers.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 1:23p, 10/22/23
Jack Bauer said:

I mean who are we to judge people who rape and behead civilians...

Jacques Strap said:
I wonder if the people at the NYT read the Jerusalem Post



"Who are we to judge..." is an outgrowth of the woke idea that everyone can have their own truth as opposed to there being objective truth.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 1:24p, 10/22/23
Jack Bauer said:

I mean who are we to judge people who rape and behead civilians...

Jacques Strap said:
I wonder if the people at the NYT read the Jerusalem Post


We are civilized humans.

(I know you were being sarcastic but some people need to be reminded).
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In reply to KaiBear • 6:48p, 10/22/23
Indian tribes hadn't settled US territory to any significant extent. They were basically camping in it.
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In reply to Realitybites • 6:53p, 10/22/23
Realitybites said:
Indian tribes hadn't settled US territory to any significant extent. They were basically camping in it.


LOL, that is an amusing interpretation.

However I strongly doubt our Native Americans would agree with it.

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In reply to Wrecks Quan Dough • 7:00p, 10/22/23
Wrecks Quan Dough said:
Jacques Strap said:


We do not extend immigration benefits to Nazis. The same should be true of Islamofascists and their sympathizers.


Who disagrees with this?
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In reply to Realitybites • 7:36p, 10/22/23
Realitybites said:
Indian tribes hadn't settled US territory to any significant extent. They were basically camping in it.

Depends on which group you are talking about. The Great Plains tribes were basically a Stone Age culture, following the herds if bison like their ancestors had done for millennia. The Five Civilized tribes of the southeast (Creek, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Cherokee & Seminole) were more advanced and some were forced out of their homes. Look up the Trail of Tears.

I'm not agreeing with the Leftists. We cannot erase the past and we won't fix old injustices by creating new ones. At least we can be honest about our past. That's something the Left has trouble with.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:49p, 10/22/23
Osodecentx said:
Wrecks Quan Dough said:
Jacques Strap said:


We do not extend immigration benefits to Nazis. The same should be true of Islamofascists and their sympathizers.


Who disagrees with this?
I suppose Biden disagrees, otherwise he would be pulling student visas and shipping them home.
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 8:51p, 10/22/23
Jacques Strap said:
Osodecentx said:
Wrecks Quan Dough said:
Jacques Strap said:


We do not extend immigration benefits to Nazis. The same should be true of Islamofascists and their sympathizers.


Who disagrees with this?
I suppose Biden disagrees, otherwise he would be pulling student visas and shipping them home.


Or granting visas permitting the Wahabbists to come here as clerics.
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9:23p, 10/22/23
Jordan won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Egypt won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Have never seen so many people used as human shields as what the entire Muslim world is doing now.

Might work though.

If Israel goes into Gaza how are the Jews going to feed all those millions ?

Better to stay out and just kept bombing Hamas.

Meanwhile how much longer until one of our ships gets hit with a missile ?
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 9:30p, 10/22/23
Jacques Strap said:
I've never seen so many people pissed off at a country that is pissed off at 1000+ of their citizens being murdered in a single moment.
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In reply to KaiBear • 11:53p, 10/22/23
KaiBear said:
Jordan won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Egypt won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Have never seen so many people used as human shields as what the entire Muslim world is doing now.

Might work though.

If Israel goes into Gaza how are the Jews going to feed all those millions ?

Better to stay out and just kept bombing Hamas.

Meanwhile how much longer until one of our ships gets hit with a missile ?

Apparently, Israel has been feeding them for awhile. So it should not be too difficult gif them to resume shipments, after eliminating Hamas. It might even be easier with the population of terrorists significantly reduced & tighter controls over what materials are allowed in. No more guns, tickets, ammo, explosives, etc.
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In reply to KaiBear • 10:33a, 10/23/23
KaiBear said:
Jordan won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Egypt won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Have never seen so many people used as human shields as what the entire Muslim world is doing now.

Might work though.

If Israel goes into Gaza how are the Jews going to feed all those millions ?

Better to stay out and just kept bombing Hamas.

Meanwhile how much longer until one of our ships gets hit with a missile ?

I think we all know that eventually they are going to end up as migrants in the EU, Canada, or the USA

The U.S. taxpayer will probably directly or indirectly end up paying for their resettlement to top it off.

Unbelievably believable
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 10:50a, 10/23/23
Redbrickbear said:
KaiBear said:
Jordan won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Egypt won't take refugees from the Gaza Strip.

Have never seen so many people used as human shields as what the entire Muslim world is doing now.

Might work though.

If Israel goes into Gaza how are the Jews going to feed all those millions ?

Better to stay out and just kept bombing Hamas.

Meanwhile how much longer until one of our ships gets hit with a missile ?

I think we all know that eventually they are going to end up as migrants in the EU, Canada, or the USA

The U.S. taxpayer will probably directly or indirectly end up paying for their resettlement to top it off.

Unbelievably believable
Sad but true. The American taxpayer will get hit in the pocketbook and in the body when the violence eventually erupts.
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1:18p, 10/23/23
40 years ago today

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In reply to Jack Bauer • 1:52p, 10/23/23
Jack Bauer said:
40 years ago today



Another reason to stay out of that whole "sheet hole" area....in the words of President Trump
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 2:04p, 10/23/23
Jack Bauer said:
40 years ago today

By far the biggest, most costly blunder of Reagan's presidency.

Sickening how the local military commanders would be so stupid as to stack our troops into such an easy target.

Then we ran out of the region with our tails between our legs.

The consequences of which are still being felt.
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In reply to KaiBear • 2:56p, 10/23/23
KaiBear said:
Jack Bauer said:
40 years ago today

By far the biggest, most costly blunder of Reagan's presidency.

Sickening how the local military commanders would be so stupid as to stack our troops into such an easy target.

Then we ran out of the region with our tails between our legs.

The consequences of which are still being felt.
Can't say one of Reagan's brightest moments. The French and Israeli's at least bombed in retaliation...
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4:47p, 10/23/23
How dare Israeli retaliate to this ...

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